if you pay nothing like doing piracy then you got no say to anime censorship?

Far to complex to be captured in five choices.

Paying and "pirating" are not mutually exclusive. The poll options should refer to paying and not paying, rather than paying and "pirating".

Certainly if you don't contribute, anime companies have no reason to care what you think about anything.

Let's say - completely hypothetically of course - that I claimed to be 100% against censorship. And not only was I against censorship, but being against censorship was like my Raisin de Entree or whatever they call it. Like I made sure everyone knew all the flippin' time that I thought censorship is evil and anyone who supports censorship is evil. Like i go online to MAL and Twitter everyday to talk about the evils of censorship, and I spend multiple hours on youtube e'rryday listening to people say that censorship of anime is horrible. Like I'm so anti-censorship that when one line of dialogue in one show from a decade ago is not to my taking I claim that the person who wrote it should be fired for attempting censorship. Like I just want to grab a megaphone and scream "CREATORS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CREATE!!!" levels of anti-censorship.

And then I saw a video game trailer featuring a black character, gay character, or woman who didn't look like a super model, and I immediately wanted to censor that character (and game) and stop the creators from creating what they wanted to create.

Would I choose the anti-censorship or pro-censorship option in this case?

(Again, this is obviously hypothetical, as obviously no real person would every claim to be against censorship while simultaneously crying out that characters that they don't like shouldn't be allowed to exist. No rational person would ever allow such a contradiction to exist in their psyche. So the only way a person such a hypothetical person could exist would be if they were being blatantly disingenuous when they argued. Good thing this is purely hypothetical!)

I disagree with the OP. I don't think you have any control over what kind of content is being produced...even if you pay for it. I don't think the consumers have any real control over what is produced.

If you vote for a stupid president your got 0 right to complain when that one fucks up your country and make you broke as hell you voted for the idiot. I mean Censorship is just stupid here is the deal if the anime or game is supposed to be for 16+ there is no need to censor it and let parents do their FUCKING job at parenting and maybe not let the kid play fucking GTA or let them watch Hentai or full on Echii that almost is hentai with out fucking. "I seen a few anime´s that are almost hentai with out being hentai.

And if your 20+ of aged and can´t handle some skin or violence or some curse word maybe just maybe don´t fucking play or watch that kind of shit if your to fucking sensitive. As long as they are not doing what would be consider a fucking crime like breaking the LAW crime let creators make what ever they wish. And if your useless fucking ass can´t handle it that´s a you fucking problem and should not affect others. And if your a useless fucking parents DON`T have kids.

Let's say - completely hypothetically of course - that I claimed to be 100% against censorship. And not only was I against censorship, but being against censorship was like my Raisin de Entree or whatever they call it. Like I made sure everyone knew all the flippin' time that I thought censorship is evil and anyone who supports censorship is evil. Like i go online to MAL and Twitter everyday to talk about the evils of censorship, and I spend multiple hours on youtube e'rryday listening to people say that censorship of anime is horrible. Like I'm so anti-censorship that when one line of dialogue in one show from a decade ago is not to my taking I claim that the person who wrote it should be fired for attempting censorship. Like I just want to grab a megaphone and scream "CREATORS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CREATE!!!" levels of anti-censorship.

And then I saw a video game trailer featuring a black character, gay character, or woman who didn't look like a super model, and I immediately wanted to censor that character (and game) and stop the creators from creating what they wanted to create.

Would I choose the anti-censorship or pro-censorship option in this case?

(Again, this is obviously hypothetical, as obviously no real person would every claim to be against censorship while simultaneously crying out that characters that they don't like shouldn't be allowed to exist. No rational person would ever allow such a contradiction to exist in their psyche. So the only way a person such a hypothetical person could exist would be if they were being blatantly disingenuous when they argued. Good thing this is purely hypothetical!)

Ah the old "speak with your wallet",completely valid in theory,sadly doesn't work in practice,can't comment on anime studios but AAA gaming is a prime example and it's consumers.

"im anti censorship but i pirate anime" and will continue to do so.

How do you know?

I don't really have proof that this does work either, but I understand that it has a non-zero effect, which is still better than having zero effect...


I think gaming has plenty of examples where consumers actually caused real changes. Especially last year.

I've seen a lot of commentary about the AAA "live-service" model taking some big hits in 2024. Consumers didn't buy into high-profile releases like Concord, Skull & Bones and Suicide Squad, resulting in massive losses and studio closures.

I assume publishers are now seriously re-considering their AAA live-service projects, or at least are more cautious about them. Sometimes these things work.

How do you know?

I don't really have proof that this does work either, but I understand that it has a non-zero effect, which is still better than having zero effect...


I think gaming has plenty of examples where consumers actually caused real changes. Especially last year.

I've seen a lot of commentary about the AAA "live-service" model taking some big hits in 2024. Consumers didn't buy into high-profile releases like Concord, Skull & Bones and Suicide Squad, resulting in massive losses and studio closures.

I assume publishers are now seriously re-considering their AAA live-service projects, or at least are more cautious about them. Sometimes these things work.

@perseii I mean for Concord it was doomed to fail by the studio itself -

Skull & Bones was ridiculed from the start,only real impact was SS but that was quickly overturned by the new Marvel game (I don't care to remember the names)

Studio closures have a lot of reasons,like Redfall's studio but it's mostly being bought out by Behemoths,being milked and then thrown overboard.

They might be reconsidering new IP's but Diablo Immortal & IV (despite how much ppl bitch about mc still make a shit ton of money),Fifa/Madden same thing,OW2,smaller games like Angel Legion and the list goes on,there are a shit ton of complaints about AC,Far Cry & COD,people still buy them en masse as well as DLC & cosmetics,just because some of us have boycotted them (tbh I've never liked Ubuysoft) doesn't mean they still aren't making mad cash.Witcher 4 is getting massive backlash,will still sell great when it releases,Veilguard a ton of hate,one of the top-sellers...Only studios that have been closed or absorbed (not counting the shitshow at Blizzard) are single-player driven ones.The only live-service that I've seen take an actual hit is 343 but they have been shitting on Halo ever since they acquired it (despite my fanboism of 4),Infinite is an unplayable joke.

All in all I do hope we are making a difference but I doubt it.

@SwordBreaker36 Rather than sex, violence or playground language, the strongest case for censorship would be something like a show which was undisguised Nazi propaganda designed to try to incite violence against a minority.

It doesn't matter if you pay for anime or not. Your voice on social media is heard exactly the same way as the voice of a non-paying person. And by "heard" I mean ignored.
You might say "b-but I can vote with my wallet!!!" but you are too stupid to realize that your wallet is just a droplet in the ocean. It's meaningless just like your singular vote for the president.

The only way to influence shit is to have widespread influence over millions of people.

Pretty sure a million people "voting with their wallet" leaves a dent in corporations' bank accounts.

You have reading comprehension issues.

You do realize a social media influencer is basically influencing the millions of "droplets in the ocean," right? So yes, it does matter if you fuckin' pay for anime, I'm sure prices are jacked up due to piracy from a huge portion of the community.

Read my original post again, retard

@KittenCuddler I love this. This is awesome. Perfect deconstruction of their incredibly flawed mentality.

I guess we should all just not vote, we'll magically not be a laughing stock of Trumpites to the rest of the world.

Your decision to vote or not is invisible to everyone else and doesn't influence anyone else's voting decision.
And nobody here is a viral influencer who might have a chance at making an impact on the world.
In other words, voting doesn't matter.

@logopolis And shows and games being Nazi propaganda happens how often that it´s an issue ? Or is it people call it Nazi propaganda because it´s not full of DEI trash so if it´s not DEI trash then it´s nazi propaganda?

The most fun part is Americans love to cry about black people being an oppressed minority yet the same fucking people got no issue being racist and hateful towards Asians.

Black people today has is better than they ever had and so fucking good in fact they got white people hating white people. Instead of trying to end racism America got full retarded and turned racism towards white and Asians so instead of solving anything they just reversed the shit.

I may be born Swedish with dark brown skin. But I was never born without a brain. But it´s fun to see how full of shit most of Americans are that screams think about minority but instead of helping they are making shit worse for all minority´s. Just so people can feel good about them self for pretending to try.

If Nazi propaganda is your biggest concern in media daily maybe your country is just fucked up beyond saving or your looking for shit that´s not there.

DEI has brain washed more than half of America.

Let's say - completely hypothetically of course - that I claimed to be 100% against censorship. And not only was I against censorship, but being against censorship was like my Raisin de Entree or whatever they call it. Like I made sure everyone knew all the flippin' time that I thought censorship is evil and anyone who supports censorship is evil. Like i go online to MAL and Twitter everyday to talk about the evils of censorship, and I spend multiple hours on youtube e'rryday listening to people say that censorship of anime is horrible. Like I'm so anti-censorship that when one line of dialogue in one show from a decade ago is not to my taking I claim that the person who wrote it should be fired for attempting censorship. Like I just want to grab a megaphone and scream "CREATORS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CREATE!!!" levels of anti-censorship.

And then I saw a video game trailer featuring a black character, gay character, or woman who didn't look like a super model, and I immediately wanted to censor that character (and game) and stop the creators from creating what they wanted to create.

Would I choose the anti-censorship or pro-censorship option in this case?

(Again, this is obviously hypothetical, as obviously no real person would every claim to be against censorship while simultaneously crying out that characters that they don't like shouldn't be allowed to exist. No rational person would ever allow such a contradiction to exist in their psyche. So the only way a person such a hypothetical person could exist would be if they were being blatantly disingenuous when they argued. Good thing this is purely hypothetical!)

It doesn't happen very often. I'm not sure what you mean by "an issue". If you're going to absolutely against something, rather than just mostly against it or against it with an exception or two, you need to consider the strongest possible case for it.

I don't know why 90% of your post is ranting about Americans, they are completely irrelevant here. I'm not American, you're not American, anime producers are not American, the people who set Japan's laws and TV standards are not American. But I do know what sort of people rant about "DEI". (Well, of recent times, it would be CRT a couple of years ago, of course.)

I dont get a say in the first place. But if I got a say then I would censor everything you (the reader) like.

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