New Original Anime "Twins Hinahima" Announced! Around 95% of the cuts were supported by AI tools

i do not think the whole production staff list is out so mal maybe waiting for those info first

I'm glad ai is saving money and cutting jobs this means better anime at cheaper costs meaning more manga can be adapted to anime . This is if the anime made due to ai changes are good enough in comparison to the people who's jobs they took. And if the animes shit that's a positive because it means they'll improve the way they use ai to create a better product so eventually these jobs costing money will be cut and more anime will be made.

@Wonderaqua
These arent contradictions. It's an AI studio. Also even if animators use AI they will just get paid even less for the work they do because it will be seen as less value or expected to have an even higher output.

@Wonderaqua The reason people are "crying" about this is waaay different from the people who hate MAPPA. Unless MAPPA starts heavily relying on AI.

@Wombles You're happy people are loosing their means of making a living? What a charming generation... i hope you don't lose that charm when you realize cutting cost is not going to get you a better product and you'll be saying sorry to all these hardworking people on your knees

@DigiCat Tractors and Harvestersharvesting.

Automated Milking Machines

Self-Checkout Machines

Driverless Trucks and Drones

Port Cranes and Conveyor Systems

Photo Editing and Video Automation Tools

Surveillance Systems

Autonomous Drones

Autonomous Mining Trucks

Robots for Underwater or Space Exploration.

People have been replaced in even more fields and you better not be taking advantage of any of these because these machines make your life easier thus making you a hypocrite. Never even use a self checkout either because that could've been someone's job.

@Wombles Ok, fast-food was not a good analogy, my bad.

I still say it's not as simple as more things = more good things (and bad things). Yes, it sometimes can be. But my point is that it depends on how exactly they're making those things.

Simply making things faster and cheaper is likely to do more harm than good, especially when we're talking about an art form. It encourages companies to focus even more on the volume of output and ignore everything else.

"I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself" -Hayao Miyazaki on generative AI

this is going to be soulless trash

@Wombles also, dont be so blatant about your bait

@Wombles You're happy people are loosing their means of making a living? What a charming generation... i hope you don't lose that charm when you realize cutting cost is not going to get you a better product and you'll be saying sorry to all these hardworking people on your knees

1. Fewer people making anime in the lower positions would mean less costs so more anime could be made by the same studio.
2. Animators losing there job Is a positive they'll be motivated to create their own work in which they can also use ai to create. so more unique anime made.
3. I don't care whether anime is made by automation or humans as long as its entertaining it doesn't matter the Internet and automation has given birth to so many ideas and media what does it matter if it goes further then educate people and create something for itself remember it's still humans making this prompt of animation so still technically made by humans in my mind.
4. And 5. More anime means higher chances of better anime being made its just a maths game. Good anime I will enjoy will be made more if there's a ridiculous amount of anime created.

AI is all a scam. It solves absolutely nothing. Keep on deluding yourself with the myth of technological progress. It won't save you when NTHE arrives.

@rodmanii so people go to fast food restaurants for "healthy food"? even he admitted it was a shit take. Now don't slander my takes as bait because you and him are both wrong jfl.

@DigiCat Tractors and Harvestersharvesting.

Automated Milking Machines

Self-Checkout Machines

Driverless Trucks and Drones

Port Cranes and Conveyor Systems

Photo Editing and Video Automation Tools

Surveillance Systems

Autonomous Drones

Autonomous Mining Trucks

Robots for Underwater or Space Exploration.

People have been replaced in even more fields and you better not be taking advantage of any of these because these machines make your life easier thus making you a hypocrite. Never even use a self checkout either because that could've been someone's job.

@FanofAction Please tell me valid reasons for complaining about Ai apart from job replacement? People talk shit about studios that "overwork" animators. So when those animators are let go and replaces with Ai shouldn't they celebrate because they're not overloaded anymore? And in terms of job finding they're not the only ones being replaced, as technology progresses many people will be discarded regardless of how they feel. They just have to adapt

All hail AI! Yeah, the future is here!

It's better that it be AI than 3D so hey. I'm curious how it'll turn out; let the haters seethe.

Hate to be ironic but the ironies with AI controversy are strong these days...

Irony #1: People who hate AI, because it 'removes the human spark' from the arts, they say. *Same people also use computer programs to do ALL their pictures; and have no such opinion about use of these programs, or tablets, replacing manual drawing, with pencils, paper etc; which they absolutely don't know how to do and don't respect at all. So they're okay with technological leaps until the next leap suddenly makes them obsolete. Haha!

Irony #2: People who hate AI because it will kill jobs in the anime industry....... while they watch all their anime ON PIRATE SITES so they give no money to the industry, which itself claims is losing trillions of yen to piracy each year; which reduces their profits which holds down wages or costs jobs.... YES that's how basic economics works. So they're okay with stealing and thus killing jobs, but only when they're the thief. Haha!

Irony #3: People who love AI because it will create even more chaff for them to consume....
I got nothing here.... these people are just chumps.

Personally I'm in No-Fucks-Given territory on AI. I'm basically watching it destroy online art, which has been a shithole of trolls and frauds since 2006, and if it disemploys enough people in the world including myself, well, I'll be participating in the wyots too... maybe that'll be fun

If its gonna happen anyways with the AI influence I hope its good. I was a universal CGI hater until Land of Lustrous taught me the way, so hopefully AI supported work will be similar conceptually. Regardless of ethics just want good stuff to watch.

@SuperAdventure


Drawing digitally is in no way comparable to AI-generated images, as it requires actual effort and use of the same fundamentals that would be present in traditional art. A lot of artists who draw digitally do also draw on paper as well, they aren't mutually exclusive. It also isn't really unheard of for some artists to draw the pencils on paper, before inking and coloring digitally (I believe this is what most Japanese anime do as a methodology), so it is still all human made creation with intention behind every decision. AI doesn't have any sort of artistic intention, it can only regurgitate existing ideas and actively doesn't understand basic fundamentals of art. As someone who is studying art myself as a supplement to my Game Dev degree, any artist can tell you that the comparison between digital art drawn by people and AI-Generated images is a false equivalency to its core.

I'm curious how many people would actually be able to tell they used AI if they didn't explicitly say "we used AI!".
If you're an artist/animator, maybe, but considering how people fall for fake images and stuff on social media, I'd say not many...

@Wonderaqua The reason people are "crying" about this is waaay different from the people who hate MAPPA. Unless MAPPA starts heavily relying on AI.

@traed It's not about being paid less, it's about requiring less people

@Wonderaqua
The effect is similar regardless. They would be either having less pay to the animators due to arguing they are doing less work or less people would be hired. They already dont make much money.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2021-02-09/animator-in-japan-reveals-their-1st-year-earnings-in-the-industry/.169306

As I stated in another post relying too much on AI will result in a talent sinkhole where you get less new people coming in and with them more reliant on AI they will not develop their skills so much. So overall quality will drop a lot in time.

@traed problem is there is already animator shortage crisis and there is barely any new training programs for new animators because of how busy the veteran animators are with overproduction of anime

nafca is still new too https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2024-12-02/.218298
and lots of new talented animators are webgens from the likes of twitter aka x and this webgen animators are self taught
https://fullfrontal.moe/webgen-ryo-timo/
https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2018/05/20/a-new-wave-of-worldwide-animators-reaches-anime-to-be-heroine-staff-interview/

@Wombles Bait used to be believable... or your just a child with an under-developed brain

@Wombles what the fuck does fast food has to do with anime?

@deg
Yes I don't understand why they are pretending Japan is in an economic boom when it's in a down slope. They need the studio come together and all agree to reduce how much they put out each season. It makes it way easier when there is a holdup in production they can more easily find a time slot to air delayed episodes. It's mutually beneficial to the investors, the animators and the viewers so i dont get it. Plus there is a limit on voice actors too so the notion you can produce unlimited anime like a certain someone in this thread is nonsense.

It's better that it be AI than 3D so hey. I'm curious how it'll turn out; let the haters seethe.

@traed thats how capitalism is today imo its all about short termism aka quarterly capitalism they do not think of long term profits at all

@Jhearn16 no retort as expected of someone against ai ,maybe ask ai to write u a response as to why ai taking jobs is bad jfl.

@Wombles okay weirdo, im not inherently against AI and its obviously going to be useful in many industries going foward, especially in anime where it can be used in background art etc. However, your argument justifying its use is entirely stupid. AI in anime should not be an excuse to lay-off staff and mass produce anime, it should instead be used to lower the already enormous workload and improve working conditions so we can get more quality anime. We already have 30+ anime each season, most of which people will never watch, we do not need more.