Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Episode 2 Discussion

Illyricus said:


Damn, shake that ass girl.

UBW-Dagger said:
The struggle......I love Rin in the Visual Novel and Saber as well. It's like Saber 1A that girl you want to marry and always be with and Rin 1B that side piece you never want to let go of Sigh the Struggle is real. I guess it's a good thing usually there is an overwhelming fan favorite between heroines in an anime, but Type Moon did such a great job with the character's that the 3 main heroines all have solid balanced fan bases!

Illyricus said:


Yeah, I understand your point, but in my case, I like Rin much more than Sakura and Saber (and I like the three, mind you). That thing that you say it happens to me, but with Rin and Luvia. I can't choose any one of the two, they are perfect.

Off Topic: I don't call Typemoon's fanbase really "balanced":




That images are gold btw.

UBW-Dagger said:


Your chart is EPIC Btw!!!! When I meant balanced I meant that Rin and Saber usually have close to equal fan bases from the polls I have seen. Saber usually is the favorite girl but it is by a very small margin. Then Sakura hangs in there, then there is everybody else. When the HF movies come out I think Sakura's fan base will grow to the level of the other 2. Then there is Illya, then everyone else.

Power level wise

Arachnophobic said:
Erm, I'm having one problem with continuity. In the prologue episode, Archer hands Rin her pendant in the penultimate scene, and she comments that it's completely empty and keeps it. In episode 1, Shirou finds it on the floor and keeps it - Archer doesn't find it. It's still with Shirou in this episode. How's the possible? Are there two pendants?

OR:



Also, I wonder how Lancer or his master knew that Shirou had been saved. Hadn't he run away?

Maloghurst said:
the pendant is a plot point. pay attention to rin as the series goes.

eh, o forget how but in the VN shirou was able to deduce that lancer would come back for him..i just dont remember what was the line of thought

Arachnophobic said:


Aye aye. Will do, thanks.

I've forgotten too.. maybe Lancer's master told him to dispose of the body, which led him to see that he's still alive.

Maloghurst said:
he doesnt really need to dispose of the body. there had already been cases of a random serial killer running around town (even shown in the anime) nobody is going to be able to deduce something supernatural is at hand

Arachnophobic said:


I just checked the relevant VN chapter, and there's no explanation for why Lancer comes after him again. He was supposed to be returning to his master with Archer on his tail. Why would he double back?

Also, finished with UBW:

Maloghurst said:
that's really more of the issue with going from written to visual medium. the way they handled it in the anime got pretty cringe worthy at times imo

Arachnophobic said:


Yeah, the lack of inner monologues spelling everything out. I think they did a decent job, though. On reading the UBW VN, I realised that:

SomaHeir said:
BlondieName

Kiritsugu

I actually didn't know this was the 5th war??? I don't think they mentioned the number of wars they've done?

Kokoro_Inuzuka said:
I don't think Rin owes him anything because she saved his life. They're even =____=

If anything, he still owes her one more favor to make it truly even because his life is worth a lot.

tr25a3 said:
And why do they involve civilians? Why are mages obligated to kill people that know about their identities?
If it's so secret, why do they hold that in a populated city?

tr25a3 said:
(Although we barely ever see anyone in the city, guess they didn't want to bother with animating background characters, huh?)

tr25a3 said:
Can someone explain this passage? It didn't make any sense to me at all.

"A master without servant has no value.
No, as long as their command spells exist, so do their rights as master.
If a servant had lost its master, it could still rejoin the battle. (for whom?)
For that reason, masters kill other masters."

So, does that imply that if the servant dies, but the master is still alive, it could simply resummon the servant or what?

Shayon said:

let's say there's a servant who had his master killed, depending on what Class he is, he has a certain amount of time before he completely disappears.

let's also say that there's a master who had his servant killed, but he still has command spells. the servant i mentioned earlier could meet and forge a new contract with this master, and officially become their servant, and the pair can rejoin the fight.

that's why masters kill other masters, because if they don't, they could become an obstacle for them again in the future.

tr25a3 said:
Okay, that could make sense. I didn't expect that this would be possible.
They also said that the servant is set free / doesn't obey the master anymore after the command spells are expleted.

Does the servant disappear or does he stay somehow? Like, could he stay with his former master on his own decision? Or does depleting the command spells equal disqualification for the master? If not, could the servant form a new contract with it's old master?

I can't remember if it they said what happens after the servant doesn't obey the master anymore.

Anyways, thank you for the answers.