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| The foot massaging scene means L lost/submission. |
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| HOW IS THIS EPISODE RATING NOT OVER 80%?? HOW!??? |
| I've seen a lot of people here explaining the foot massage scene, but could someone PLEASE explain a bit more about the scene where misa just started singing like a creepy doll for no reason |
| one piece episode 321 15:46 (or 16:33) you're welcome |
shuu-tsukiyama said: Maybe you should make a thread asking that question because episode discussion of last to last decade's anime is not that much active usually even if it's top popular on MAL.I've seen a lot of people here explaining the foot massage scene, but could someone PLEASE explain a bit more about the scene where misa just started singing like a creepy doll for no reason |
| Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood. |
puneetsingh said: ah, you're right. thnxshuu-tsukiyama said: Maybe you should make a thread asking that question because episode discussion of last to last decade's anime is not that much active usually even if it's top popular on MAL.I've seen a lot of people here explaining the foot massage scene, but could someone PLEASE explain a bit more about the scene where misa just started singing like a creepy doll for no reason |
| one piece episode 321 15:46 (or 16:33) you're welcome |
| Ok so Light is fully embrwcing the God complex. I don't think L is really gone, I'm not sure what sort of plan was made but with quite a few episodes left I feel like there's more L to come. |
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| i knew ryuzaki was gna die but this episode was still so shocking ☹☹ end of an era so bummed was glad that the yotsuba arc was done & was enjoying the interactions of the trio but....that’s all over now also loved the foot scene and its allusion, that was amazing (and sad) i watched the live action films when i was younger and i remember in them L died from writing his own name in the death note or something, that seemed way more epic & a much better node to such a smart & important character. rem being the one killing him just feels so....mehhh... like was that necessary..... even if he proved the 13 day rule was fake it wouldn’t immediately indict misa & light methinks, it just felt like they just had to kill off ryuzaki to make the next arc work |
 ꕤ but i’ll probably remember over and over again you were there and everyone else was there — the day we all searched for just one thing ꕤ |
| foot massage.. was sorta weird. but overall good episode. death note don't let me down now. didn't make me cry though. L wasn't a character that would be considered a favorite to me. or something that i felt bad for. im more on evil light's side for some reason. |
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LoloChxn said: well though i loved light more, L death is still one of the dramatic moments in the anime for me, it done much better than in the mangafoot massage.. was sorta weird. but overall good episode. death note don't let me down now. didn't make me cry though. L wasn't a character that would be considered a favorite to me. or something that i felt bad for. im more on evil light's side for some reason. |
User-Name said: LoloChxn said: well though i loved light more, L death is still one of the dramatic moments in the anime for me, it done much better than in the mangafoot massage.. was sorta weird. but overall good episode. death note don't let me down now. didn't make me cry though. L wasn't a character that would be considered a favorite to me. or something that i felt bad for. im more on evil light's side for some reason. yeah light is a much better character imo. (only when he is evil/when he was normal when the anime first started). he's just idk a better character. L isn't really a character that interested me much. i just want to know his backstory, and that's about it. i do like L's character design as well. |
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LoloChxn said: as i said, finally who understand why light character is so favourite.User-Name said: well though i loved light more, L death is still one of the dramatic moments in the anime for me, it done much better than in the manga yeah light is a much better character imo. (only when he is evil/when he was normal when the anime first started). he's just idk a better character. L isn't really a character that interested me much. i just want to know his backstory, and that's about it. i do like L's character design as well. i agree that L is interesting character, but in terms of ideology and development he's not get even close to light. and about L's history, except for what is written in vol13-how to use manga there's not much about it, there's the novel about L, but except that ohba didn't really expand him so much. |
User-Name said: LoloChxn said: as i said, finally who understand why light character is so favourite.yeah light is a much better character imo. (only when he is evil/when he was normal when the anime first started). he's just idk a better character. L isn't really a character that interested me much. i just want to know his backstory, and that's about it. i do like L's character design as well. i agree that L is interesting character, but in terms of ideology and development he's not get even close to light. and about L's history, except for what is written in vol13-how to use manga there's not much about it, there's the novel about L, but except that ohba didn't really expand him so much. oh, not much for L then. tbh personally, i don't understand why L is really favorited. |
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LoloChxn said: i can understand why, though to like light moreUser-Name said: as i said, finally who understand why light character is so favourite. i agree that L is interesting character, but in terms of ideology and development he's not get even close to light. and about L's history, except for what is written in vol13-how to use manga there's not much about it, there's the novel about L, but except that ohba didn't really expand him so much. oh, not much for L then. tbh personally, i don't understand why L is really favorited. |
This was a really well done episode though, I’ll give em that. |
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| I felt like I was watching some weird yaoi hentai during that foot rub scene. Poor L. I kind of rooted for Light towards the beginning of the series, but he keeps making it harder and harder to be on his side. |
| The symbolism of L drying off and massaging Light's feet felt a bit forced for the sake of adding symbolism to the episode. I get why its there but the way it was inserted felt off with the rest of the episode. Despite that, it was an excellent episode and Light finally checkmated L by having Rem be forced to commit suicide by writing names on her notebook to protect Misa. L came so close and the look on his eyes as he saw Light's maniacal smile and face that got the taste of victory over him and his instincts finally. L always knew that Light was somehow involved with the whole Kira business but when he finally got confirmation, he only just eternally fell asleep afterwards. Overall, the Light-L era of Death Note was very good. The middle dragged a bit on with some unnecessary parts at times but the weaknesses of that portion was more than made up for by the ending few episodes. I'm not particularly excited for the rest of the series knowing how it does decline in quality big time with the final 12 episodes but for the first 25 episodes, I can definitely live with myself by giving it an 8/10. Thanks to Bakuman for making me want to see this show again, especially for these first 25 episodes. |
| I must admit the anime's action is very good. The story's development so far generated powerful attachments and resentments toward either L or Light. So, when we come to this episode, those who watch are already emotionally tensed. The events trigger reactions so intense that you can no longer forget the scene, the episode, etc., not even after the series will have been over for a long time. My greatest respect for the creators 🙂! When I watched episode 20, where Misa, L and Light formed a cheerful enthusiastic little group, I felt at the same time the joy of seeing the trio working together as good friends and the melancholy of anticipating that friendship's end once Kira was caught. If I should compare that episode with this one, first I would notice that at that time they were together in the same space, while now they are separated. I would also distinguish the distance that crept among them, the uneasiness in their communication, since they started to hide things from each other. In addition to these elements, I would sense a certain inner darkness too, especially at Misa and Light. It would be more like a deep sadness in L's case. Misa wears a special costume before using the death note, as if Misa, the one who kills, would not be herself, but a character, a role that she's playing. On the street, right before she begins her route, for a couple of seconds her eyes become lifeless. Light is more solitary, not that involved as before. Moreover, he is unusually suspicious of every remark or gesture of L. As for L, he acts like someone who understood that the party was over and now he must say farewell; to his own life too. There are many details that got my attention when L and Light shared a short conversation in the rain and also after that, when L insisted to wipe Light's feet with a towel. First, I felt that L was saying goodbye. He was experiencing those moments like someone who knew they were its last. As he endeavored to retrieve L from the rain, from that place, atmosphere and thoughts, it felt like Light was an executioner communicating to the condemned that it was time that he accepted his fate. That was my primary perception. Then I had another impression. It seemed to me that L wanted to confess his affection for Light, something he was never able to do before. And it was then when I first doubted Light's total indifference (minutes 11:52, 13:12, 14:38 or 15:08). He obviously had a sad look. It felt like he regretted L, but it was inevitable that L was eliminated. L has certainly acted as a motivator for Light, even surprising him on many occasions. For Light, life would have become duller without L. But this loss was necessary so that Light could fulfill the role he had taken. Many of those who commented on this episode interpreted L's gesture of wiping Light's feet as a sign of submission and acknowledgement of Light's victory. Some others talked about a parallel between L's gesture and Jesus' Final Supper. While I haven't thought about these things, I agree. I think what they said is true. But at the same time, I am more drawn by another interpretation: in every remark and gesture of L there is a final attempt, very subtle, of convincing Light to change his mind. At the end, when L was about to give his last breath in Light's arms, Light's malicious smile and look were obviously meant to confirm L who was Kira and that Light had defeated him. Yet, I did wonder if in L's case Light was not confessing his Kira identity only to highlight his victory as he had done with Ray Pember or Naomi. I imagined that it may have also been a sign of respect for L. L had constantly suspected Light of being Kira, without obtaining all the necessary evidence. At least, Light allowed him to die with the confirmation that he had been right all along. For a passionate mystery-discoverer such as L, it must have brought some little comfort to die with the validation of their own theory. But then again, I may be speculating too much 😂. To me this episode was primarily heart-breaking because L was forcing me to part with him, then it became shocking because I discovered myself incapable to accept L's death. |
KonokoAsadaMar 28, 2021 1:11 PM
| "The me today will not ever make the future me to regret!" (Emily Adachi from Air Gear: Kuro no Hane to Nemuri no Mori - Break on the Sky)  |
AlexanderHD said: Dang Konoko. I'm appalled to be running into you here. Small world. Considering how little you post on the forums and how long ago it was that you watched Death Note. Not to mention how little I post in the Death Note discussions. And yet you're the user above me lol I always consult the Wiki/fandom website... even though the episode summaries are user-written, they're very thorough and serve as a means of confirming parts of the episode you're unsure of: Interestingly, the summary states: "L stares up at Light, who grins devilishly. Realizing that he solved the case and his deduction was right all along, L's eyes close and he dies peacefully." I really hope this is the truth, because in my prior comment I lambasted Light for being so ruthless. Maybe the anime deliberately tried to leave it up to the viewer the decide... so I'm just HOPING that in the Death Note universe, Light's "devilish grin" was to provide SOME sort of relief to L. Although, this is something that's very hard to believe. We know Light's internal dialogue and intentions. Light was clearly very unfazed by L's death. But in this episode -- like during the roof and foot scene -- there was something neutral about Light. I don't know. I don't wanna think about it anymore. 😅😭 (The wiki also draws the connection to the Last Supper!) Actually I intend to gradually increase my postings on the forums, but even then, there are little occasions when I have something to say. I first watched Death Note in 2018, but due to strong emotions experienced during my watch, I was left with a lot of uncertainties. As a result, I re-watched it last year to clarify myself. Most of my comments to Death Note were posted on the local site where I watched the series. After finishing it, I decided that I wanted to post my comments from episodes 25, 29 and 37 on MAL episodes forums too (of course after reading the others' comments first). But I started to do so only recently and I've only made this post so far🙂. To be honest, I am aware that my opinion about Light providing some comfort to L before his death, could easily be just wishful thinking. I mostly agree with you that it is very unlikely, yet, after closely following Light's glances during this episode and some other episodes, I had a nagging feeling that he was not completely indifferent. As for the reference to the Last Supper, I'm so glad that I read this forum's discussions too!! On the local site that I've used, nothing was mentioned about it. Frankly I've never thought about the feet rubbing scene this way, yet I do agree with the interpretation. Actually it emphasizes my own view that L cared about Light, although he knew Light was doing something wrong. Jesus washed his disciples feet knowing that Judas would betray Him. But not only Judas! The rest may have not sold Him, but they fled away from Him when Jesus was arrested, they hided and denied their association with Him. Jesus washed their feet because He cared about them despite their flaws. |
KonokoAsadaApr 4, 2021 12:50 PM
| "The me today will not ever make the future me to regret!" (Emily Adachi from Air Gear: Kuro no Hane to Nemuri no Mori - Break on the Sky) |
| For this episode, which is pretty much the final episode of DN, I really would have wished if both Light and L caught each other: L gets killed and Light gets arrested. Like both won and both lost. But oh well, it was a fun journey as for the anime Episodes 1-17 = Great and captivating. Episodes 18-23 = BORING, UNINTERESTING, FILLER, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Episodes 24-25 = Once again, great and captivating Episodes 26-37 = NO ONE CARES |
oooo3333Apr 20, 2021 12:06 PM
| I...L really is dead....Light has no more obstacles now... Rem also sacrificed himself for the sake of Misa who might not last long enough. I don't know what to expect from this point on. |
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| Tbh I hate the way that L died in a unfair way. It would be better if Light found his name. instead of using a shinigami. |
| UGHH NOOOO I almost cried, I was in denial tbh L was a really interesting character, his eyes kind of looked like Shinigami eyes, unlike other human eyes, but weirdly in his last moments they looked normal? his backstory/flashback is also not completed, hmmm It would be cool if he didn't completely die, or he's coming back to life somehow, idk I've kind of felt he wasn't completely human? |
| I hate Light for killing REM. RIP L. Damn, that was brutal. |
GosuDRM said: The foot massaging scene means L lost/submission. I don't see why it would symbolize submission on L's part - he very clearly had a plan to discover if the 13-day rule was real or fake, so he wasn't giving up on the case. |
| I knew when this episode started something was gonna happen to L, but I still can't believe he actually is gone- Rem too, I also noticed the animation seems a lot better this episode. And that scene with Misa singing was kinda haunting honestly. Really now alls I'm wondering is how this is gonna go on for another 12 episodes without L. Like, up until I started this episode I was under the impression L would die somewhere in the last 3-5 episodes, but there's a whole seasons worth of episodes ahead. |
| That was so... unceremonious. You'd think that after building up the rivalry for 24 episodes it would be an active victory and not a passive one. Not terribly interested to see where the series goes from here, but I'm in for the long haul nonetheless. |
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