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| That's it? Need more stories... Seems like they are not connected in same world aren't they? Hmm... |
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| This is going to come out wrong, but I'm not sure that this anime should have existed. It's very bad as a self-contained story since none of the mysteries set at the start are resolved by the end, and even worse, some like Robin lead to a very anti-climactic resolution. And from what I know, there's less material left in the manga than what's already covered by this cour of the anime, meaning an anime advert of the manga doesn't make sense at this point (the serialisation seems to be going very slow too). Overall I'll have to rate this anime adaptation on its own merits and I can barely give it a 6/10 while maybe 5/10 is an even better fit. Let's be fair, what did the anime even provide us with, except for fantastic visuals and a decent music production? To me, a story should lead somewhere, unless it's a completely different type of storytelling, like say Mushishi for example, but Tengoku Daimakyou is obviously not aiming for that. Conclusion: 5/10, if this was released later into the future as an advert of a manga nearing its end it would at least work well for that purpose. |
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FreezePeach said: Yeah, I need 2nd season since I don't really like reading manga XDYudiYusantoS said: It's an ongoing manga, anime can't just wrap it up. There are multiple hints about how everything connects, in this thread alone many of them were mentioned. And the final scene makes it clear that what kids were told about outside is not quite right for people who didn't figure it out yet.That's it? Need more stories... Seems like they are not connected in same world aren't they? Hmm... The second season is years away, if ever. Just go to mangadex and read the whole thing. I need to adjust when reading black and white manga since I'm newbie :) Anime is the best for me since I love anything that colored and moved XD |
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| Very interesting anime. Hype for the sequel. |
PaninaManina said: I have no fkn clue man, this kind of behaviour's been around since ages ago and I've always found it weird and missing the point of an episode discussion forum 🤣GTRaijin said: Finally someone also noticed this... There are always people who write the entire recap of episode for all the airing anime like wtf? People who are in the newest episode discussion have seen the fucking episode, no need to write what everyone has watched. You two are not alone, I was just very successful in not replying to those posts and pretending I don't see them. |
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gawed said: a great anime and no season 2 immediate announcement :( I hate it when that happens. this one deserves several seasons indeed. now my only gripe with this final series of events: it's almost insulting to sexual abuse victims everywhere that something so dense and serious is treated here in a "oh well 10 mins after I'm ok and won't be depressed" kinda way. no trauma no PTSD, just "well, got raped such is life." makes it feel as if the entire event was just gratuitous sex violence and cheap shock with no real consecuence to the plot. maybe in season 2/next chapters it could turn out that he has PTSD or some sort of sequel but so far it seems like it will be treated like just another quick obstacle in our journey. but oh well, asides from that this was a great feast for the season. That seems to be a major hole in the writing that many manga readers aren’t able to overlook. I wonder why the anime onlies seem to think differently |
Pistachiocookie8 said: Oh, of course, I can't question this perfect masterpiece, imagine if I were to question why she stopped Maru from killing that scumbag. QuietDirt said: spoken like an Andrew Tate fan.So she didn't escape from Robin because she liked it? I mean, she easily removed that rope... |
| Honestly, I would've just preferred if he just killed Robin with that final punch like sure you make the doctor kill himself and let the mc get raped but Robin getting killed? I liked this anime but I mean there were some aspects I wish were done differently. |
| This episode solidified the series as 8/10 for me. Yes, partly due to Robin existing and livening shit up like it's supposed to be in a believable post-apocalyptic world. Also, the ntr drama in this one is just great, it's better written than it had any right to be in such an obscure series. Gimme more of this post-apocalyptic chaotic world that the mangaka, and the anime team, don't shy away from making realistic and thus full of shit unthinkable in a functioning lawful world (which it isn't which is, in turn, the point). |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Well, fucking christ on a bike. |
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| for a final this was underwhelming, mostly the last scene with the kids on the boat came out of nowhere. Though Maru and Kiruko having a talk and getting ready to move on to the next adventure was nice. Im usually not one to say this but I think the rape scene last ep was unnecessary. If you wanted to have Kiruko grow past Robin you could have just shown him beeing an ass, apparently he even did shady experiments, thats reason enough.. She did not even really react to it at all and I doubt it will ever come up again in the sense of trauma. While that sounded pretty negative I absolutely loved the show overall. Aside from Oshi no Ko its definitely my favourite this season. The characters felt fresh and the setting is pretty interesting, its almost anthology like with them moving from location to location and having new adventures, but it still keeps an overall plot going. I definitely want to read the manga now, I had a quick look at the chapter titles to guess where to start and it seems this season almost adapted everything? |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Comander-07 said: Until about chapter 37.I definitely want to read the manga now, I had a quick look at the chapter titles to guess where to start and it seems this season almost adapted everything? I would advise to read from chapter 1 though. The anime cut some interesting parts (it's understandable, that's what adaptation is about) and many small details can be spotted again when revisiting the story. It's not that long either, so it's worth it. |
| Hmm I don't know, the whole aftermath of the rape was weird. For how traumatic it seemed in the previous episode, I feel like it didn't have the importance one would have expected and they turned the page too quickly. It's not like this could be the only thing we see on the subject, but we won't really know until a second season. For now, the rape feels unnecessary. Even without it, Robin was already a piece of shit who seems to have already abused the og Kiruko and was performing some fucked up experiment. No mercy for him next time. On the academy side, Mimihime giving the button to Shiro is so damn sad knowing their fates. And what the hell with Tokio's power?! And that's it for this series. Except for the rape part which was its lowest point, I definitely found it to be a show that is at the top of the season. Super interesting and intriguing with its 2 points of view, pretty likeable protagonists, top production values, engaging and very fun. I need a second season 10/10. |
| I wonder which child in the Heaven facility became the thing locked up in the plant attached to a human. I also wonder what exactly the big calamity that messed up the world was, when civilization was still operating just fine when the kids escaped Heaven. Do the kids somehow cause an apocalypse with their powers later? We'll have to wait until the next season to find out I suppose. |
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Meritas said: This is going to come out wrong, but I'm not sure that this anime should have existed. It's very bad as a self-contained story since none of the mysteries set at the start are resolved by the end, and even worse, some like Robin lead to a very anti-climactic resolution. And from what I know, there's less material left in the manga than what's already covered by this cour of the anime, meaning an anime advert of the manga doesn't make sense at this point (the serialisation seems to be going very slow too). Overall I'll have to rate this anime adaptation on its own merits and I can barely give it a 6/10 while maybe 5/10 is an even better fit. Let's be fair, what did the anime even provide us with, except for fantastic visuals and a decent music production? To me, a story should lead somewhere, unless it's a completely different type of storytelling, like say Mushishi for example, but Tengoku Daimakyou is obviously not aiming for that. Conclusion: 5/10, if this was released later into the future as an advert of a manga nearing its end it would at least work well for that purpose. ???? You do realize this is an ongoing series right? The point of this anime is to draw us into the story and setting and make us curious enough to continue on with the manga. Judging it by that, it's well succeeded given its reception and the higher sales numbers. It is a part 1 of X. The Fellowship of the Ring was a part 1 of 3, did you find that story to fail because it wasn't self-contained? Your critiques make no sense given the medium and format of the show at all. You are judging this beginning of a still-ongoing series as if it is a standalone movie or something. Don't let your disappointment over cliffhangers cloud your objective judgement. |
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| This was one of my favorite animes of the season but unfortunately the final episode did not tie everything together as I hoped it would. Regarding the final episode, I was kind of hoping that Maru would've finished off Robin but for some reason Kiruko wanted him spared. Only good thing I can say about that is that maybe Robin can explain what the heck was that thing he kept in the locked closet (before he's killed). It's sad what happened to Kiruko but it looks like that thing in the closet had it worse. Regarding the facility, that director officially has gone crazy and what the heck happened to her when she tried to grab Tokio's baby? Looks like some type of defensive ability. And is that the real baby or the alleged clone? Also, Mimihime saved by Shiro, I was curious if we would've seen how she ended up immovable and in bandages but no, oh and what of the younger kids that were going to be turned to maneaters? Oh and speaking of maneaters, what about the one that was in the parking garage that Maru missed killing? There are so many unanswered questions but nonetheless I really liked this anime. Every episode felt short since I was so engrossed. The animation was great, the storyline and plot were top notch, and so was the art-style. Only minor gripe is that the characters designs, while mostly fine, had an episode where they had exaggerated reactions which was a bit jarring for me but I understand that was due to a special guest director. Only other minor gripe was that this story is not concluded so again I hope for a 2nd season or at least OVA(s) if that's not possible. 9/10 |
Alfredo-SauceJun 27, 2023 9:24 AM
| Felt like this should've been a series that was up my alley, but... Nah. |
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| So..... - Events in the Tengoku Complex was in the past, before the end of the world, what explains why Maru/Kiruko can find a lot of products only 7 or 10 years older than the expiry date. - MARU = TOKIO/KONA'S BABY, the real one because he has special abilities. - DOCTOR = SAWATARI, the glasses guy. - USAMI = SHIRO, the nerdy boi who loves Mimihime. - MIMIHIME = Stayed together to Usami until her end. - ANZU = the woman who died after give Maru the Super-laser and gave his mission. - TAKA = ?? Robin?? - OONA (sunglasses girl) = the monster who was in Usami's underground parking I can't complain, this crazy plot was well written so far. But there's a risk that the next explanations turn it all a mess. It's not easy fir any author to asspull an agreable explanation when the bar of the misteries is set too high. Let's see, and let's go to the manga, as usual lol |
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Fmapkmn said: One hypothesis : Does Maru the child of Tokio ? Or the both story sides is in the same timeline ? Can't wait to see season 2, what happens when all orphanage team goes to the real life ? 8/10 with post-apocalypse environment, some creepy vibes and emotional moments It's pretty clear like a supernova that the events with Tokio/Mimihime was in the past, and Maru/Kiruko is the present. And the tragic couple we see at episode 8 = Shiro + Mimihime. And much more characters appeared in both timelines. But i got so disapointed to come to the forum here with that in the mind and everybody only "raPe, ConfEssion, Robin spanked, RAPE, uhu conFeSSion, ARpE!" lol |
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Spirelord said: You don't draw the readers when there's just little more to go on in the source material. But even if that's just my subjective opinion, little if any of the problems and the mysteries were resolved which is just very disappointing instead of motivating me to go and read the source material (which again has little more to add to the anime story currently).Meritas said: This is going to come out wrong, but I'm not sure that this anime should have existed. It's very bad as a self-contained story since none of the mysteries set at the start are resolved by the end, and even worse, some like Robin lead to a very anti-climactic resolution. And from what I know, there's less material left in the manga than what's already covered by this cour of the anime, meaning an anime advert of the manga doesn't make sense at this point (the serialisation seems to be going very slow too). Overall I'll have to rate this anime adaptation on its own merits and I can barely give it a 6/10 while maybe 5/10 is an even better fit. Let's be fair, what did the anime even provide us with, except for fantastic visuals and a decent music production? To me, a story should lead somewhere, unless it's a completely different type of storytelling, like say Mushishi for example, but Tengoku Daimakyou is obviously not aiming for that. Conclusion: 5/10, if this was released later into the future as an advert of a manga nearing its end it would at least work well for that purpose. ???? You do realize this is an ongoing series right? The point of this anime is to draw us into the story and setting and make us curious enough to continue on with the manga. Judging it by that, it's well succeeded given its reception and the higher sales numbers. It is a part 1 of X. The Fellowship of the Ring was a part 1 of 3, did you find that story to fail because it wasn't self-contained? Your critiques make no sense given the medium and format of the show at all. You are judging this beginning of a still-ongoing series as if it is a standalone movie or something. Don't let your disappointment over cliffhangers cloud your objective judgement. Here's a similar example - you don't end Attack on Titan Season 1 after the second titan invasion, because then you're just providing 12 or so episodes of people simply training and fighting mindless monsters. You end the season after the revelation that there are Titan Shifters who are out for blood against the Humanity inside the walls which is huge and really makes you want to see where the story goes from there. With Tengoku Daimakyou the status quo has barely moved from the starting line by the season Finale. If anything, this simply makes me wonder "Why did I spend 13 episodes watching this?" The visuals are nice, but I won't get the same animated quality with the manga. As for the post-apocalyptic setting, sure, that's always fun, but there's a ton of manga like that already. What does Tengoku Daimakyou have to offer over any of those? It's really hard to say judging by this anime's contents. |
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| Man, I was cheering so hard when Maru started beating that bastard Robin to a bloody pulp. It would have been nice if he was able to kill that scumbag right then and there, especially considering the screwed up stuff that guy did to the other girl he brought in... but no, stupid Kiruko just HAD to stop him. Speaking of whom, she(?) had many opportunities to escape while Robin was gone, but for some reason she just stayed there like a typical damsel in distress. What's all that about? The kids finally made it outside of the outside, and now making their way over to the city. Wonder what are they going do after getting there? If this ever gets a second season, I hope there's no outrageous r**e plot like the one in episodes 12-13. Stuff like that do more harm than good. |
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| Damn it finished, it was one of the best this season. We had a feels ending with the kids going out from that weird place and Shiro confessing. It was a really out of context overall and I would watch a season 2 definitely 8/10 |
StyxParadise said: Check this article here, it might give you some answers to your questions:Man, I was cheering so hard when Maru started beating that bastard Robin to a bloody pulp. It would have been nice if he was able to kill that scumbag right then and there, especially considering the screwed up stuff that guy did to the other girl he brought in... but no, stupid Kiruko just HAD to stop him. Speaking of whom, she(?) had many opportunities to escape while Robin was gone, but for some reason she just stayed there like a type damsel in distress. What's all that about? https://www.reddit.com/r/HeavenlyDelusion/comments/14g29nq/kirukos_response_clearing_misconceptions/ |
Meritas said: Manga reader here. I think a LOT of mysteries were explained and resolved in this season, even for anime-onlys.little if any of the problems and the mysteries were resolved which is just very disappointing The issue is, it's mostly non-verbal (show, don't tell). And it requires multiple rewatches (I'm still catching new details after third rewatch) I've seen a lot of anime reaction channels on YT, people are confused and barely figured the different timelines... I assume that's because 99% of animes nowadays have to explain everything to the audience through dialogue/monologue exposition... I'm a huge fan, 9/10 season for me, but don't get me wrong, I also think the finale was anti-climatic as hell and not the best way to sell the manga. Rare L from the anime adaptation team. I'm curious. Please, would you let me know what are the mysteries that you felt unresolved/incomplete? I'd be glad to explain, only if it's explained in the anime, without spoiling the manga of course. |
Radical_Orion said: Meritas said: Manga reader here. I think a LOT of mysteries were explained and resolved in this season, even for anime-onlys.little if any of the problems and the mysteries were resolved which is just very disappointing The issue is, it's mostly non-verbal (show, don't tell). And it requires multiple rewatches (I'm still catching new details after third rewatch) I've seen a lot of anime reaction channels on YT, people are confused and barely figured the different timelines... I assume that's because 99% of animes nowadays have to explain everything to the audience through dialogue/monologue exposition... Thanks for chiming in with that. I love this series for doing away with explanations but I've been just kind of assuming that all the explanations are in the future so the only thing I rewatched was ep. 8 and wasn't going to revisit anything else... |
| i really liked the show, it was my fav from this season but this final episode was bad, very bad... i dont take final episodes into account for my score though this anime had some fantastic visuals an its characters are charming, the story was interesting for the most part but it does have some weird twists that derailed from an otherwise really cool an misterious world 8/10 |
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Zaxphred said: for example: who is Robin and howWay too many questions were left unanswered ^(it is not the spoiler per se, but makes sense after my guesses, confirmed by previous episodes' discussions) |
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