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| Finally a good episode, it got serious just in time for the cours final. Everytime Suletta talks "with herself" it gets creepier and now she even casually killed the guy AND BATHED IN HIS BLOOD holy shit. Having to wait a season is pretty much killing the little hype this has build though. |
Comander-07Jan 13, 2023 1:05 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Inorichi said: Up to the 'how are you smiling' I can understand since it's eerie, but 'murderer'? Honestly, just takes a fat dump all over any development Suletta and Miorine had over the past 2 eps and resets the status-quo bs relationship. Yeah, my thoughts as well. |
| “Ha ha, the synergy between my left and right hand made them feel scared.” Ye Xiu said. |
| feels like they stalled on having any interesting character development till the second to last episode because they wanted to contrast the initial emotional honesty between suletta and miorine with the absurd violence of the last scene but didn't trust the audience to remember it if they had it happen any earlier |
bizorJan 13, 2023 11:32 PM
young_kappa said: Erroratu said: My theory at this point is that the "run, gain one. move forward, gain two" mantra works something like "would you kindly" in Bioshock, since it's a big point of relevance in Suletta's relationship with her mom. I highly doubt its hypnotic suggestion. She seems to have 100% trust in her mother and is ready to bend her morals to fit her mother's. Its unhealthy upbringing and something her friends will likely have to help her get over Even if this isn't the case Prospera is definitely manipulating her somehow, she sent her to the Asticassia school with selfish intentions and a relatively normal schoolgirl isn't just going to commit manslaughter with a cool head and gloss over it like absolutely nothing is wrong with it just because their mom told them it's OK, even if the person they're attacking is an assailant trying to kill their friend. young_kappa said: Haven't seen UNICORN yet but this is some serious reaching chief. Setting popularity aside since g-witch certainly enjoys it too, the whole dynamic between Orga & Mika alone, add other members of Tekkadan, of various ages to boot which adds even more nuance in a sort of "the big bros" vs the "little bros" relationships, the cooperation with Teiwaz members, the mechanic's fatherly attitude towards the Tekkadan pilots, Merribit who kinda takes on a motherly role to them, Kudelia who's both their employer/ally while pursuing her own goals, is several inches deeper than anything G-witch has to offer. I'd bring up the world building & Gjallarhorn, but trying to keep it fair here considering the number of eps for each show. Also, there you get context THROUGH the conflict and in between breaks of it, same with Seed actually. Snuffleskin said: i'm pretty jaded about gundam actually, the franchise is typically super banal, but this show to me is the first time in a long time a mainline gundam especially an AU entry knocked it out of the park. i wanna say most of the WfM haters are people conditioned on the slop entries like wing, IBO, seed, unicorn and only care about seeing the robots and explosions without any regard to the nuance and purpose behind it all.Gundam is a filter for midwit shonenheads because they actually have to pay attention to the shows The primary things they're complaining about like yuri and school setting are so secondary to what's actually going on in the plot that it definitely does seem like a filter. if WfM went like gundam traditionally does i feel like the story would've started on the 11th episode with no context, would be a total mess. G-witch isn't a bad anime, but it's a gundam-lite in all ways. Everything it has (maybe besides the animation that comes with being a 2022/2023 show), is a nerfed version of previous entries. Take for instance those few seconds at some point showing a worker's union on Earth being brutally oppressed by military forces with mechs & all, after which ChuChu gets a call from them. What we get just a tiny glimpse of here, which feels more like teasing & baiting, is a whole expanded on plot point in IBO - Kudelia being heavily invested in it, thus Tekkadan by extension. And how could G-witch be otherwise when even in that interview someone shared during the earlier eps it was said that they're aiming to attract a younger generation to the franchise. Admittedly, we have finally reached an escalation point and the 2nd half can determine further how this gonna turn out but the plot is essentially oppressed kids rise up vs bad corpo-adults. Thankfully it has some signs which might expand beyond it... might... we'll see in the 2nd part. Quick update to add: I don't hate the G-wtich as I do get my fair share of enjoyment out of it even tho' I've had plenty of times where I felt pretty bored, it does manage to pull me back somehow and end on a banger, but no way does this capture the grey-zone conflict, nuance & world building of some previous entries, just a lighter, toned down version of it ~ it's likely gonna be good for them from a marketing PoV tho' . |
ManlyTearJan 14, 2023 3:40 PM
| for me, the show was good, but it took too long to get to the current arc. could have sped up more. another point was the use of Permet, it seemed very vague in explanation, and I only understood it by reading it on Wikia In general I think Suletta is a clone, just like Elan Ceres, including because Prospera knew his "mother" |
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| Miorine is so annoying from start to finish jfc yes I get there's some brainwashing mind conditioning going on with Suleta but bitch she just saved your lives can't she at least wait for a proper time while Suleta suddenly a psychopath, and your father is dying you stupid bitch, be ungrateful later, how can u guys like this bitch Miorine? Overall weakest Gundam series I've ever seen 4/10 |
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| I’m sure a lot of gundam fans enjoyed this episode as much as I did. The only problem is the actions are too short so an extra episode for it would have been better. I hope the Grassley house will receive retribution next season for what they did and the same goes for the traitor Nika. I didn’t like what was shown at the very end though. With everything that is going on, I hope Suletta can keep on killing the enemies instead of having a change of heart due to Miorine’s influence. |
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DeathCobra said: Noisrev said: Miorine wasn't uspet because Suletta killed the terrorist. She is upset because of how Suletta acted afterward. Suletta killed someone, but she joked about how clumsy she is after she tripped in the blood and guts of someone that she just killed.Miorine is so annoying from start to finish jfc yes I get there's some brainwashing mind conditioning going on with Suleta but bitch she just saved your lives can't she at least wait for a proper time while Suleta suddenly a psychopath, and your father is dying you stupid bitch, be ungrateful later, how can u guys like this bitch Miorine? Overall weakest Gundam series I've ever seen 4/10 Bro she literally called her you murderer, clearly it's mainly about the kill, she's more confuse on Suleta smiling, hence why are you smiling like that, then proceeds to you murderer, come on now, don't even try to revision coz you're doing a terrible job defending this garbage of a character |
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| loved it and that crush at the end i am looking forward to part 2 in the spring! i really hope Suletta dont get bothered by Miorine's words again am really looking forward to part 2 |
DazeFireJan 17, 2023 5:16 PM
| "one step at a time" |
| Well... it's sorta gone fully circle... Where the old dudes killed Suletta's home, in turn gets killed by Suletta sorta. Poor Guel tho... this dude really can't get a break huh... ___ ___ ___ But yea... I think Suletta's personality is starting to change to that of a Psycho... (I have a strange feeling this was implanted into her by the mom... meaning Suletta might end up as the baddie and Mio-Mio will probably end up fighting her) I don't think Shoujo-ai/ Yuri power is going to fix this. |
amlgJan 18, 2023 12:10 AM
| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
ManlyTear said: i dont feel like reading that but thats cool or whateveryoung_kappa said: My theory at this point is that the "run, gain one. move forward, gain two" mantra works something like "would you kindly" in Bioshock, since it's a big point of relevance in Suletta's relationship with her mom. Even if this isn't the case Prospera is definitely manipulating her somehow, she sent her to the Asticassia school with selfish intentions and a relatively normal schoolgirl isn't just going to commit manslaughter with a cool head and gloss over it like absolutely nothing is wrong with it just because their mom told them it's OK, even if the person they're attacking is an assailant trying to kill their friend. young_kappa said: Haven't seen UNICORN yet but this is some serious reaching chief. Setting popularity aside since g-witch certainly enjoys it too, the whole dynamic between Orga & Mika alone, add other members of Tekkadan, of various ages to boot which adds even more nuance in a sort of "the big bros" vs the "little bros" relationships, the cooperation with Teiwaz members, the mechanic's fatherly attitude towards the Tekkadan pilots, Merribit who kinda takes on a motherly role to them, Kudelia who's both their employer/ally while pursuing her own goals, is several inches deeper than anything G-witch has to offer. I'd bring up the world building & Gjallarhorn, but trying to keep it fair here considering the number of eps for each show. Also, there you get context THROUGH the conflict and in between breaks of it, same with Seed actually. i'm pretty jaded about gundam actually, the franchise is typically super banal, but this show to me is the first time in a long time a mainline gundam especially an AU entry knocked it out of the park. i wanna say most of the WfM haters are people conditioned on the slop entries like wing, IBO, seed, unicorn and only care about seeing the robots and explosions without any regard to the nuance and purpose behind it all. The primary things they're complaining about like yuri and school setting are so secondary to what's actually going on in the plot that it definitely does seem like a filter. if WfM went like gundam traditionally does i feel like the story would've started on the 11th episode with no context, would be a total mess. G-witch isn't a bad anime, but it's a gundam-lite in all ways. Everything it has (maybe besides the animation that comes with being a 2022/2023 show), is a nerfed version of previous entries. Take for instance those few seconds at some point showing a worker's union on Earth being brutally oppressed by military forces with mechs & all, after which ChuChu gets a call from them. What we get just a tiny glimpse of here, which feels more like teasing & baiting, is a whole expanded on plot point in IBO - Kudelia being heavily invested in it, thus Tekkadan by extension. And how could G-witch be otherwise when even in that interview someone shared during the earlier eps it was said that they're aiming to attract a younger generation to the franchise. Admittedly, we have finally reached an escalation point and the 2nd half can determine further how this gonna turn out but the plot is essentially oppressed kids rise up vs bad corpo-adults. Thankfully it has some signs which might expand beyond it... might... we'll see in the 2nd part. Quick update to add: I don't hate the G-wtich as I do get my fair share of enjoyment out of it even tho' I've had plenty of times where I felt pretty bored, it does manage to pull me back somehow and end on a banger, but no way does this capture the grey-zone conflict, nuance & world building of some previous entries, just a lighter, toned down version of it ~ it's likely gonna be good for them from a marketing PoV tho' . |
| Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill. |
vvvvjuuu said: Ok, I obviously failed epicly to express my feeling about the show. I took time to sit on it and I'll try to do a better job at explaining why this show frustrate me so much. Turtles_Hunter said: Not really, since many people were able to accurately predict the events of episode 12 given everything we've seen so far. And there's been countless theories regarding Eri, Prospera and Aerial discussed to death on here and other platforms.Pacing is atrocious. nothing happens in episodes 1 to 10 then so much happens in 11 and 12. I couldn't get in those last episodes, because I feel like they came out of nowhere. That show doesn't know what it wants to be. Turtles_Hunter said: It wasn't even subtle bruh, it's almost like you watched wfm without subtitles or something.Since they never cared about clearly explaining what were the parties in presence, and their revendications, I did't really care about all those characters fighting. Those who are here from the beginning had barely any development, and the Earth terrorists (by default of a better definition) just came out nowhere. More than talking about pacing and things coming out of nowhere, I should have talked about lack of world building when it comes to certain points. The world building is perfect when it comes to anything school related, or even about cathedra. But outside of that, there is nearly nothing. We know earth is kinda ravaged, and that earthlings are not well seen by spacians. That's about it. We don't really know how the spacians are organised, if there is an earth or spacian government. How is Cathedra, a group of private companies, able to make laws ? What power exactly has Cathedra on Earth and colonies? What are Earth government official relations with spacians (is there even an earth government). Obviously, despite the resentment, it's not an open war, since there are some earthlings are at school. In a few words the starting situation on that side is blurry. During the 10 first episodes, it bothered me a little but that could may be because I'm used to other Gundam show, where those kind of things always have clearly stated from very early on. But when came the episodes 11 and 12, I could help to feel those thing were important. Sure those earth guys worked for Shaddiq, and they could be mercenaries, and the fact that they're from earth is just there to justify the fact Nika knows how to communicate with them. But I can't help to think that the fact they're from earth is relevant, especially since they own gundams. Thus this led to question. With how the relation between earth and spacian was depicted (not friendly), why would they work for Shaddiq? Probably because their interest align, and the fall of Cathedra would benefit their cause. But what is that cause and would they benefit from it? does it align with the global feeling of earthlings? How does that position this faction compared to the others factions (official earth, cathedra, spacian government - if the last 2 are not the same things). That's why I talked about coming out of nowhere. I felt the context being this faction was lacking. We know why they are there, but nothing about their goal other than "being employed by Shaddiq" (would anyone be ok with them not having their own agenda?). Knowing what powers Cathedra hold on earth would have help to give them more consistence. Cathedra probably didn't had time to ravage ravage earth in only 21 years. (Once again, maybe they're just mercenaries and I'm over reading the whole thing). These events rose a lot of questions. The problem I have is not that we don't have answer to those questions, I would probably have the exact same question with more world building. No what bother me is more that I feel those question are mostly due to the fact we were left in the dark about the starting situation. That were not given information that everyone in the story knows. To give us mysteries that only are mysteries for us viewers. Talking about pacing was wrong. In another post, I said "They don't know what to do with the time they have" or something like that. That may be closer to what bothered me. That they could have removed a few thing to expand on the starting situation. To sum that up, I would say my problem with the show is "I can't fully enjoy the show if I'm often wondering how does that world works". |
Turtles_HunterJan 18, 2023 10:47 PM
| Okay I'm sad to say that I didn't like this episode that much, perhaps one of the worst of the season (which is still good tho, as I really like this anime). I was expecting different things and a happier ending (that was dumb, in hindsight). The highlights we got were Miorine's father sacrificing to protect her, a classic, good but not really surprising; Guel killing his own father, classic or dare I say classical? Now he just has to marry his own mother. Still, I'd have liked to see a bit more of Jeturk senior in action. But. as other have mentioned, this episode marks the changing of the guard, and that is cool. Then ofc there's Suletta moving forward... A bit too much, probably. Now, the post credit scene was surely the most shocking part of the episode, it gave me Gon and Killua vibes, but I'm not entirely satisfied by it for at least two reasons: Miorine saying "murderer" -chilling, for sure- when she clearly just got saved (although not in the best way possible), and the exaggereted mannerism and symbolism in Suletta's actions, like how jovial she is as well as her hand totally red with blood... Something a bit less on the nose would have made a better scene better imho. Anyway, interesting how her mother influenced her with a few words (here the vibes where that of a "get in the robot Shinji" moment but with kindness(?)) to be ready to kill. Another important point that I remembered reading the comments is how Nina got caught, I'm curious to see what she does now. Less important plotwise, but I did not like the scene of the huge laser blast fired by the Aerial (not bad the new design btw), it hit nothing and left the robot wide open, and sitll nobody of the enemy faction tried to hit it. I'm criticizing a lot but, again, it was a good episode still. The visual aspect is always very good, the interpersonal relationships (esp. that between Suletta and Miorine) are always interesting, the battle before the arrival of the Aerial was great -and I really liked the mention of a treaty prohibiting physical ammunitions because they pollute outer space. |
| Man... THIS SHOW SLAPS!! But seriously if tbe goal for this season was to subvert my expectations than than mission accomplished. I did not expect the after credits scene at all. I'm glad this isn't just a one cour or I'd be livid right now. Looking forward to part 2. |
RealMTLJan 26, 2023 1:35 PM
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| Wow, that final scene made me move my rating of the series from a 9 to a 10. (I was already considering it) Definitely going in my list of all-time favorite scenes in anime. |
| They really just took the most kindhearted, innocent, and relatable character and turned her into a demon in front of my eyes. I was really feeling for the pain Suletta felt when doubting herself and the people around her, and then just BAM. This just feels like an episode of PTSD I really don't know what I just witnessed. |
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PrecureHunter said: They likely have some advanced technology that prevents a vacuum from occurring within the space-field. I mean, it's not too farfetched, is it? But I have to comment that I think it actually does fit her character. Looking back at the prologue, we see little Eri (presumably Suletta or some variation of her (who knows at this point)) killing everyone around her while smiling and laughing, not even realizing what she's doing. It's terrifying and sad to think about, but she likely has some sort of PTSD and is blocking those emotions in order to cope. It's a toss-up, but that's what I believe so far.the only thing that really bothered me was the amount of holes the planet thingy had busted into it and none resulted in a vacuum... aside from that Suletta was way too quick to be okay with murder after a few words with her mom, but i guess she never really had any character aside from being insecure but having complete faith in her mom, so it fits |
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| Finally it's becoming Gundam, this season feels like a big introduction. But HOLY F*CK, her first kill is savage! most of the time they're in a mecha killing someone hidden in another mech, but she just slapped a real dude and made a smoothie out of him! and she walk on it, and fall in the blood... and propose her hand full of blood while smiling Damn, Suletta is indeed a witch LOL |
| That ending holy shit, now we going somewhere. I'm really hoping part 2 continues with the darker tone. I gotta admit part 1 was a bit slow at times but if this is all setup for part 2 maybe it'll all be worth it and make a dramatic shift that much more satisfying. I feel bad for Guel, nothing but Ls the ENTIRE season and it ends with him accidentally killing his father. I'm interested where his character goes from here. Most likely revenge crazy which I'm down for. Who hit harder Suletta splatting that terrorist into paste or Chuchu knocking out those girls? For sure two highlights of the show. |
LiquidGoldFeb 7, 2023 9:55 PM
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| So many plot twists in this episode. And honestly it was heartbreaking to see guel killing his own father. Even if it was only a little it seemed that his father does care about him. Now suletta is truly turning into a witch. The wholesome bits from the last episode seemed lost now. I doubt if miorine can look at her the same way anymore. I guess my ship is sinking now. See you in april i guess. |
| Suletta really clap that last guy lmao. this was an amazing series and it's my first Gundam series! after watching this I feel like watching the older ones. I've just seen bits of episodes of the older gundam series but didn't quite follow the stories lol |
| Was an nice watch on the side. The main track from the OST was really good. The ending for the season finale episode was kinda random though. Thought there was another episodes to clean up and prep for next season but it kind of just ends in the middle of the mayhem with this episode. |
| The most boring Gundam AU out of every AU I've watched. And no, it suddenly remembering that it dared call itself Gundam in the literal last minute of the last episode of the season doesn't make up for the 12 episodes of borefest. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| 10/5 Gundam grimdark arc! |
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| Definitely did not expect it to go full psycho at its last few seconds, yet here we are. Can't remember the last time a show left me in shock like that and damn it feels great! Almost got me fooled to rank the series as 10, until I came back to my senses remembering the rest of the episodes were really not that perfect. But it's still pretty good nonetheless. Now let's hope the second season picks up the tone this one left us with. |
| When I saw that last iconic scene where Suletta swatted that man without remorse, I thought that Suletta is an insane girl or "Yandere type" lol but I was wrong when I started to watch and finished this series. |
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