| My thoughts are that I don't fucking care. |
| Wow, that's a rare W coming from Elon Musk. |
 ─ ⊹ ⊱ i'm glad you're evil too ⊰ ⊹ ─ |
| It's fine, but equally term for example shota or shotacon must also be banned too. |
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| I think it’s dumb but twitter is also dumb and a garbage platform. Lolicon will never hurt anyone btw. Cope~ |
Ah, that's a pretty great song lol, go USSR |
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| Whatever Not a lolicon don't care (Kiss-Shot isn't a loli stfu) Mirai said: Shota tag is still up, what did Elon mean by this? 🥶🥶🥶🥶 |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Did a test and uploaded 3 pictures on my alt account then reported it with my main. Update you tomorrow. 1 tweet was removed. It was of Anya. Other 2 seem to still be up |
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| wack as fuck. kanye gone then loli #freelolicon |
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| A MAL user making a thread that's supposed to be informational but lacks key information? Say it isn't so... Current Events getting shuttered was a good thing. |
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| Do you mean depictions of lolis being sexualized? That'll only upset the most depraved. If someone has to justify something by comparing it to the literal thing, they already know the correlation. |
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Bunille said: Lolicon doesn't need to be compared to anything else in order to justify it?Do you mean depictions of lolis being sexualized? That'll only upset the most depraved. If someone has to justify something by comparing it to the literal thing, they already know the correlation. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| As excpected, (tho, thankfully not many) people here who don't use twitter at all believe at face value the misinformation provided by OP. Pretty much no artist (japanese or otherwise) uses that tag to get more exposure of their work. You can still search that tag by writing "loli_" or similar stuff, and the word still appears in the trending topic sometimes. As someone mentioned in a very early post, apparently actual pedos, which were pretty much allowed to be on twatter before the Musk take over, were using the tag to find each other and promote their sickening fetish, at least according to Musk himself, Jordan Peterson, and a few others. (reason why "shota" and loli written in other languages, like japanese, hasn't been touched) If Musk ends up banning loli hentai at the end it won't be because of the content itself, but because he will ban NSFW posting altogheter, there is a reason Twitter is the only social media site of this kinda where porn is allowed, is hard to manage problematic stuff like CP while allowing others forms of pornography, Tumblr used to have this problem and they solved it that way. |
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vasipi4946 said: https://twitter.com/Official_LDTF/status/1601783783191359488 BREAKING NEWS: All search results for #loli and #lolicon have been banned on Twitter. So much for freedom under @ElonMusk . lol based anyway what your thoughts? Loli isn't sexual or anything. Why ban the word? It's just a child anime girl. I understand lolicon, but not loli. |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
Usapz said: vasipi4946 said: https://twitter.com/Official_LDTF/status/1601783783191359488 lol based anyway what your thoughts? Loli isn't sexual or anything. Why ban the word? It's just a child anime girl. I understand lolicon, but not loli. There is an implied sexual condonation associated with the word. This isn't the early 20th century when the word "Gay" simply meant "happy". The same goes with "loli" and it being used these days is far from before the 1950s. Unless you are a complete moron, you know it's typical Urban slang. Dealing with Twitter anything associated with such a tag would likely lead you to sexual related content. |
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ColourWheel said: Usapz said: Loli isn't sexual or anything. Why ban the word? It's just a child anime girl. I understand lolicon, but not loli. There is an implied sexual condonation associated with the word. This isn't the early 20th century when the word "Gay" simply meant "happy". The same goes with "loli" and it being used these days is far from before the 1950s. Unless you are a complete moron, you know it's typical Urban slang. Dealing with Twitter anything associated with such a tag would likely lead you to sexual related content. I don't know. My friends and I use loli to refer to any character that is a child. |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
ColourWheel said: Usapz said: Loli isn't sexual or anything. Why ban the word? It's just a child anime girl. I understand lolicon, but not loli. There is an implied sexual condonation associated with the word. This isn't the early 20th century when the word "Gay" simply meant "happy". The same goes with "loli" and it being used these days is far from before the 1950s. Unless you are a complete moron, you know it's typical Urban slang. Dealing with Twitter anything associated with such a tag would likely lead you to sexual related content. This is the definition of urban dictionary: Loli Loli has 3 definitions, arranged according to popularity. (Source at the bottom) 1. Loli - Young girl/Young-looking girl; age neutral; SFW by default. Its also used to describe a body type, age is ignored. Its an abbreviation of Japanese colloquial word "Lolita", which has exactly the same meaning defined above. (Don't confuse it with the twisted American definition of "Lolita".) 2. Loli - Abbreviation of Lolita Fashion. example: goth-loli, wa-loli, hime-loli, etc. The 'Lolita' in Lolita fashion is also derived from the same 'Lolita' defined in (1). Its a victorian style fashion mixed with Japan's kawaii culture. 3. Loli - Abbreviation of lolicon (Lolita Complex), which is an attraction to loli(1). The attraction can be non-sexual, or sexual. Barely anyone uses 'loli' as 'lolicon', to the point that no one actually knows that this definition even exist. Only used in a very specific context, or very 'special' kind of people. Hentai sites doesn't actually use this definition in their tags, they use the first definition. Ironically, this is used by 'special' people in twitter, tiktok, and even facebook, just to fit their narrative that this word is a 'bad/derogatory' word, and will only spread this definition to others, ignoring the first and second definition. |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
Usapz said: ColourWheel said: There is an implied sexual condonation associated with the word. This isn't the early 20th century when the word "Gay" simply meant "happy". The same goes with "loli" and it being used these days is far from before the 1950s. Unless you are a complete moron, you know it's typical Urban slang. Dealing with Twitter anything associated with such a tag would likely lead you to sexual related content. I don't know. My friends and I use loli to refer to any character that is a child. Sorry to burst your bubble here but "loli" is also short-form for "lolisexual". I am not taking any particular stance on this issue about Twitter because frankly I don't really care that much about the platform or lolis. I have never even been a registered user of Twitter before. |
ColourWheelDec 13, 2022 7:50 PM
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ColourWheel said: Sorry to burst your bubble here but "loli" is also short form for "Lolisexual". I am not taking any particular stance on this issue about Twitter because frankly I don't really care that much about the platform or lolis. I have never even been a registered user of Twitter before. Ah that's sad. I'm still gonna use loli to refer to an anime child. How am I supposed to call them? |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
Usapz said: ColourWheel said: Sorry to burst your bubble here but "loli" is also short form for "Lolisexual". I am not taking any particular stance on this issue about Twitter because frankly I don't really care that much about the platform or lolis. I have never even been a registered user of Twitter before. Ah that's sad. I'm still gonna use loli to refer to an anime child. How am I supposed to call them? You could just call them a cute child. |
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ColourWheel said: Usapz said: Ah that's sad. I'm still gonna use loli to refer to an anime child. How am I supposed to call them? You could just call them a cute child. I'll try. I'm just really used to say loli. |
| “I won’t rely on anyone anymore. I don’t care if no one understands.” – Homura Akemi |
ColourWheel said: The origin of loli or lolicon manga is sexual, but at some point we started using the term to refer to young/cute looking girls without any inherent sexual meaning present in either design, clothing, intention, etc. Usapz said: Loli isn't sexual or anything. Why ban the word? It's just a child anime girl. I understand lolicon, but not loli. There is an implied sexual condonation associated with the word. This isn't the early 20th century when the word "Gay" simply meant "happy". The same goes with "loli" and it being used these days is far from before the 1950s. Unless you are a complete moron, you know it's typical Urban slang. Dealing with Twitter anything associated with such a tag would likely lead you to sexual related content. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: ColourWheel said: The origin of loli or lolicon manga is sexual, but at some point we started using the term to refer to young/cute looking girls without any inherent sexual meaning present in either design, clothing, intention, etc. There is an implied sexual condonation associated with the word. This isn't the early 20th century when the word "Gay" simply meant "happy". The same goes with "loli" and it being used these days is far from before the 1950s. Unless you are a complete moron, you know it's typical Urban slang. Dealing with Twitter anything associated with such a tag would likely lead you to sexual related content. Ironically Loli isn't even a term the Japanese use. Loli is completely a western term and has been bastardized by online communities such as Anime communities. |
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ColourWheel said: That's not true. Loli comes from Lolita, and lolicon comes from Lolita Complex. You can read about the lolicon boom of the 80's in Japan. LostSpectre said: The origin of loli or lolicon manga is sexual, but at some point we started using the term to refer to young/cute looking girls without any inherent sexual meaning present in either design, clothing, intention, etc. Ironically Loli isn't even a term the Japanese use. Loli is completely a western term and has been bastardized by online communities such as Anime communities. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| So much for free speech and all. Elon is a hypocrite lol. Twitter is having a shit show with him operating it all. L take Elon. |
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LostSpectre said: ColourWheel said: That's not true. Loli comes from Lolita, and lolicon comes from Lolita Complex. You can read about the lolicon boom of the 80's in Japan. Ironically Loli isn't even a term the Japanese use. Loli is completely a western term and has been bastardized by online communities such as Anime communities. There is no L sound in Japanese. I am not sure who you been talking to in Japan, but whoever originally translated what ever into "Lolita Complex" it certainly wasn't the Japanese. The word originally came from Vladimir Nabokov's book "Lolita". Last time I checked the guy was Russian. |
ColourWheelDec 13, 2022 9:43 PM
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ColourWheel said: You're way off base here. Japan coined "lolicon" a portmanteau of "lolita complex", it's completely irrelevant that Lolita comes from Nabokov. Second, it is not that "L" doesn't appear in their language, there's no L sound which is why it's pronounced with an "r" as in "rorikon". An example of a term that Japan doesn't use whatsoever is "trap" that's an entirely western creation. LostSpectre said: That's not true. Loli comes from Lolita, and lolicon comes from Lolita Complex. You can read about the lolicon boom of the 80's in Japan. There is no L sound in Japanese. I am not sure who you been talking to in Japan, but whoever originally translated what ever into "Lolita Complex" it certainly wasn't the Japanese. The word originally came from Vladimir Nabokov's book "Lolita". Last time I checked the guy was Russian. |
LostSpectreDec 13, 2022 9:50 PM
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: ColourWheel said: You're way off base here. Japan coined "lolicon" a portmanteau of "lolita complex", it's completely irrelevant that Lolita comes from Nabokov. Second, it is not that "L" doesn't appear in their language, there's no L sound which is why it's pronounced with an "r" as in "rorikon". An example of a term that Japan doesn't use whatsoever is "trap" that's an entirely western creation. There is no L sound in Japanese. I am not sure who you been talking to in Japan, but whoever originally translated what ever into "Lolita Complex" it certainly wasn't the Japanese. The word originally came from Vladimir Nabokov's book "Lolita". Last time I checked the guy was Russian. I think you are a bit off base here. Being someone who has lived in Japan before, the only time I have heard the term lolita used is in reference to "Gothic Lolita" as a fashion trend in Japan. Which is completely different to how westerners use the word. I have never even heard some neckbeard Japanese otaku even in Akihabara at a Comiket ever use the word Loli before. |
ColourWheelDec 13, 2022 10:01 PM
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ColourWheel said: Your anecdotal evidence doesn't change anything, maybe try actually looking it up? LostSpectre said: You're way off base here. Japan coined "lolicon" a portmanteau of "lolita complex", it's completely irrelevant that Lolita comes from Nabokov. Second, it is not that "L" doesn't appear in their language, there's no L sound which is why it's pronounced with an "r" as in "rorikon". An example of a term that Japan doesn't use whatsoever is "trap" that's an entirely western creation. I think you are a bit off base here. Being someone who has lived in Japan before, the only time I have heard the term lolita used is in reference to "Gothic Lolita" as a fashion trend in Japan. Which is completely different to how westerners use the word. I have never even heard some breadneck Japanese otaku even in Akihabara at a Comiket ever use the word Loli before. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: ColourWheel said: Your anecdotal evidence doesn't change anything, maybe try actually looking it up? I think you are a bit off base here. Being someone who has lived in Japan before, the only time I have heard the term lolita used is in reference to "Gothic Lolita" as a fashion trend in Japan. Which is completely different to how westerners use the word. I have never even heard some breadneck Japanese otaku even in Akihabara at a Comiket ever use the word Loli before. Sure because looking up trivial things on the internet is so much more reliable than actually real life experience. |
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ColourWheel said: Oh, so the internet is completely unreliable for doing research now? Sounds like a copout to me. LostSpectre said: Your anecdotal evidence doesn't change anything, maybe try actually looking it up? Sure because looking up trivial things on the internet is so much more reliable than actually real life experience. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: ColourWheel said: Oh, so the internet is completely unreliable for doing research now? Sounds like a copout to me. Sure because looking up trivial things on the internet is so much more reliable than actually real life experience. I never said that. Though real life experience completely eclipses any type of trivial info you can ever find on the internet. |
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ColourWheel said: I really don't care. I'm not looking it up for you, so feel free to end the conversation at any time. LostSpectre said: Oh, so the internet is completely unreliable for doing research now? Sounds like a copout to me. I never said that. Though real life experience completely eclipses any type of trivial info you can ever find on the internet. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: ColourWheel said: I really don't care. I'm not looking it up for you, so feel free to end the conversation at any time. I never said that. Though real life experience completely eclipses any type of trivial info you can ever find on the internet. In regards to looking up trivial info on the internet, it doesn't ever equate to real life experience. Even if one did try to do the simplest web search for something as trivial as this, one of the 1st answers that comes up is this from a Quora quote.  This is coming from some user who "knows Japanese". While there is a way to pronounce "Loli' in Japanese and a way to spell it using Katakana. No one actually uses the word loli in japan to specifically refer to cute children in Anime. it's uses to reference "Gothic Lolita". Either way I already knew this because I have actually lived there long enough and have actually had conversations with people in Japan specifically about Anime. Further more in regards to Anime, instead of the word "loli" the Japanese have their own slang term called "chibi". |
ColourWheelDec 13, 2022 10:49 PM
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| I shouldn't wake up to MAL, makes me lose some very important braincells |
| Stuff in the streets, Stuff with drip in the sheets |
| Good choice because lately pedos have been using the term loli and lolicon to share cp. This includes the fashion stuff too. Pedophiles have been trying really hard to normalize this type of stuff. |
vasipi4946 said: https://twitter.com/Official_LDTF/status/1601783783191359488 BREAKING NEWS: All search results for #loli and #lolicon have been banned on Twitter. So much for freedom under @ElonMusk . lol based anyway what your thoughts? banning both the victims and the perpetrators is based? based on trashbin |
| キターーーー(・∀・)ーーー！！ |
| is no one gonna talk about how the account in question is literally called "Lolicon Defense Task Force" ☠️ anyway english is not the only language, im sure ppl will find a way around this somehow. |
| i heard they misuse the word in twitter for real CP so musk delete it. from what i saw a lot of jp artist also not using this tag but still writing it in comment section sometimes. |
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vasipi4946 said: https://twitter.com/Official_LDTF/status/1601783783191359488 BREAKING NEWS: All search results for #loli and #lolicon have been banned on Twitter. So much for freedom under @ElonMusk . lol based anyway what your thoughts? Shotas? What about onee-shota fanarts? |
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| RIP dorontabiandother loli fanart creators on TWITTER LMAO a great move from musk, same with facebook, they banned the world loli, and if you managed to keep the word, then a therapy message will pop up |
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ColourWheel said: How you can possibly think this says anything whatsoever? That person says the romanization isn't commonly used, that's it, nothing definitive about whether or not "loli" is a word in the Japanese lexicon, other than giving an example about gothic lolita. Also, the question was never about whether the Japanese still use loli in the same exact modern usage as westerners, the question was whether or not there's an observable history of the term lolicon in Japan, which there absolutely is. Lastly, how the fuck is "chibi" even remotely comparable to loli when they're completely different concepts? If you're going to make me continue this banal conversation, then I'll just find you the damn sources, but don't expect me to spell everything out for you. LostSpectre said: I really don't care. I'm not looking it up for you, so feel free to end the conversation at any time. In regards to looking up trivial info on the internet, it doesn't ever equate to real life experience. Even if one did try to do the simplest web search for something as trivial as this, one of the 1st answers that comes up is this from a Quora quote. This is coming from some user who "knows Japanese". While there is a way to pronounce "Loli' in Japanese and a way to spell it using Katakana. No one actually uses the word loli in japan to specifically refer to cute children in Anime. it's uses to reference "Gothic Lolita". Either way I already knew this because I have actually lived there long enough and have actually had conversations with people in Japan specifically about Anime. Further more in regards to Anime, instead of the word "loli" the Japanese have their own slang term called "chibi". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon https://fullfrontal.moe/from-lolicon-to-moe-the-adventures-of-the-bishoujo/ |
LostSpectreDec 14, 2022 9:12 AM
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