Akame ga Kill! Episode 19 Discussion

FlamingYu said:
Mien sure can take hits.
Shall we have desserts day and night to toughen our bodies like hers?
Was for sure she's gonna lose but what the heck.

bladeangel said:
If White Fox keeps up their reputation I think they won't disappoint us

GarudaAiacos said:


you can say this about any work of fiction. whats wrong with an author liking their own characters they created?

wouldnt all authors create charcters they liked?

Whats wong with that? if they are favored by the author he is more likely to write good stories about them. I am sure he likes all the characters hes created, but akame is probably his favorite. He is writing a background manga starring her, the story is named after her and she was the first character he made because he wanted to make a story about a female character with black hair and red eyes (hence the name akame)

anyway , would you rather the author be bored with his own characters? hate them? you wish he hated mine and liked some other character more? your wierd bro. (and akame is my fav character dont call me mine fanboy)

Darklight0303 said:

Nothing's wrong with having favorites. What's wrong is creating bullshit excuses to ensure said favorites continue existing in the story. Mine is especially guilty of this given the ridiculous number of deathflags she's dodged at the expense of other much better characters.

-ZET- said:

So as a fellow manga reader, how do you feel about this original ending or even about the anime adaptation in general?

OkarinPriest said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Darklight0303 said:
Nothing's wrong with having favorites. What's wrong is creating bullshit excuses to ensure said favorites continue existing in the story. Mine is especially guilty of this given the ridiculous number of deathflags she's dodged at the expense of other much better characters.

IronLobster said:


And yet, deathflags are only an imaginary concept that were created by fans of stories to entertain themselves. They aren't concrete, let alone canon.

Even so, it was explained since the beginning that Pumpkin is powered by deathflags, so I don't know why people are still so surprised.

Darklight0303 said:
Deathflags do not equate to ANGER as Mine put it in this fight. SHe literally won because she got angry. Not because she was in danger. That's where the Deus Ex Machina surpasses the very concept of Pumpkin. That is where it REEKS of author retcon to keep his retarded pink haired bitch alive.

HelghastKillzone said:
Fun Fact:

Seryu's VA also voices Akane from Psycho-Pass.

Justice-chan lives on.

gedata said:


Fun fact:

Seryu's VA is in everything

Darklight0303 said:

Deathflags do not equate to ANGER as Mine put it in this fight. SHe literally won because she got angry. Not because she was in danger. That's where the Deus Ex Machina surpasses the very concept of Pumpkin. That is where it REEKS of author retcon to keep his retarded pink haired bitch alive.

MoeGod said:
Tatsumi got a kids' meal XD

Damn, Pumpkin is OP as fuck. Mine is surprisingly strong, I was waiting for a moment when she'll use it to propel herself and she did it.



Uhh did you not notice that Mine was in the most dangerous situation she could be in? wounded heavily & both (full power) Coro and Seiryuu attacking, I don't know if there's a bigger pinch she could be on. She was at the point where she almost died ffs (lying on the ground having flashback and can barely move). You're seriously letting your hate for Mine cloud your judgement.

And when you think about it why is it that Pumpkin works stronger when the user is in a pinch? logically that would be because when you're in a pinch your emotion tends to get stronger. Anger, fear, & adrenaline mixed to create a powerful surge of emotion that power Pumpkin. There's no way an object like Pumpkin can know the degree of danger its user is in especially since it's not a living Teigu. Some kind of input would be necessary from the user to determine how much power it releases and in Pumpkin's case it's emotion.

IronLobster said:

It's probably has something to do with the limbic system of the brain and the amygdala which recognizes and processes fear and danger. I don't think there's any other way the teigu can determine threat levels.

EDIT: I found a more detailed explanation by googling.

"In the fear response, a small part of the midbrain, called the Amygdala, is very active. This part of your brain alerts you to danger on an “all or nothing” principle. It is turned on or off as it identifies whether something is a threat or not. In the case of Anxiety Disorders the Amygdala falsely recognizes non-threatening triggers (like certain situations and sensations) as threatening. You teach or condition the Amygdala to warn you if something is dangerous by how you interact with the situation. If you consistently leave a situation that is not really dangerous when you feel anxiety, over time the Amygdala will “learn” to warn you even more strongly every time the situation presents itself.

When there really is danger, the primitive warning from the Amygdala has survival value. It can activate other parts of the brain, such as the Brain Stem, to speed up heart rate and breathing as part of the Fight or Flight Response. Once something has been conditioned in the Amygdala to trigger a fear response, it will warn you of danger every time you enter the situation. In doing so, the Amygdala can override common sense. Then higher order thinking, like reasoning and logic, do not work!"

http://docericryan.com/the-anxious-brain-and-its-parts/

Kaoknight said:
well, i dont mind it going original but I find it really funny how smoothly njenda's plan went along with having zero casualties compared to how badly they got stomped on in the manga when esdese solo'd most of night raid.

anime njenda(confident while hidden in shadows): I would never dream of a frontal assault.

manga njenda(wounded and exhausted): oh no, esdese is too overpowered we need to sacrifice our strongest member and run away..

Darklight0303 said:
And some people dare think there's any hope left for the anime >_>

Darklight0303 said:


And some people dare think there's any hope left for the anime >_>

Darklight0303 said:

And some people dare think there's any hope left for the anime >_>

Darklight0303 said:
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MoeGod said:


Ha! All you did was complained about the anger thing and conveniently ignore that her power would naturally go up anyway since she was in a great pinch.

You're just pissed off Mine survived through legitimate means.

Darklight0303 said:

Doesn't change WHAT she said was the reason for her powerup. What if's don't matter. She herself said it was anger and that's what makes it bullshit.

MoeGod said:


And where is the problem with that exactly? how Pumpkin works was never stated in detail before this, who are you to deny if it actually works on the power of emotions if the author planned it so? Mine never said Pumpkin can only be used when she's in a pinch (otherwise she could only play defense), it clearly can attack and that power has to come from somewhere.

Not to mention that every teigu has a hidden ability that could be totally unrelated with how it usually works. I don't see you complaining about Sheele's scissors shining brightly or Tatsumi's Incursio having invisibility, both of which are secondary ability with almost no relation with how the teigu itself usually works. That laser blast could very well be Pumpkin's secret ability that works differently than how it usually is. Actually I'm pretty sure that it is its trump card considering it overheated afterwards.

And still, if you reaaaaaally want to stick by the rules of Pumpkin getting stronger only if she's in greater pinch, then it really shouldn't matter because she was in the greatest pinch. I think you should try to refute that point first because anger or no anger, Mine in greater danger = more power. Regardless of what she said afterwards, she'd still blast Coro and Seiryuu out of oblivion which makes her surviving not bullshit at all.

Kaoknight said:
but either way the power of the pumpkin just seems really asspull-ish in by itself because by its logic it should've been able to kill seryu and her dog the first time, with mine being injured, out numbered, and angry about sheeles death.

Kaoknight said:

whenever someones imperial arm has a trump card/second ability they refer to it as such, the big problem is that the story is kinda inconsistent about it, before it was a "pinch" now it's emotion or going by the most recent chapter it's somehow both. mine's pumpkin is customizable like rabac's wires and it has multiple parts to make different gun types, that finishing laser shot was her using a different part.

but either way the power of the pumpkin just seems really asspull-ish in by itself because by its logic it should've been able to kill seryu and her dog the first time, with mine being injured, out numbered, and angry about sheeles death.