MyllerPhiem said: Calal-Chan said: Woke Gundam? Guess I am gonna watch it now. Probably pretty good then. Thanks for convincing me to watch it as the person who never enjoys Gundam. On another note there are a lot of sexist people in this thread. Good to know who not to talk too. And if you get upset at this remark than you might actually just be sexist yourself. Everyone is sexist. Anyone denying this is lying. Important thing is to be a decent person. Which a lot of people in this thread are not. How is everyone sexist? That doesn't even make sense. And yeah most people on mal are quite toxic that I can agree with. Which is why I was bashing this thread. How do I take anyones opinion seriously here when literally everyone is arguing for the sake of arguing. You either like the show or you don't who cares. Why make a thread just trying to gather attention. (which yeah I know you made the thread XD) You might say I am arguing to argue but this will be my last post. Have a good day. I wish you the best. |
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RobertBobert said: corrutect said: Twitter is a cesspool of woke and anti-woke/based people. Full of meaningless discussions about inconsequential bs by people who believe themselves to be the reincarnation of Cicero. Just like this thread. When I was last on Twitter, that is, about a year and a half ago, being anti-woke on Twitter was tantamount to being gay in Chechnya. Used to be like that in the past and the site is still overall more left-leaning for sure. But still, if you are relevant in the "anti-woke-sphere", you or at least your "disciples" will have a very vocal presence on the site. There is a reason why discussions on Twitter are infamously brain-draining. People don't go there to make thought out statements and to deeply consider counter-points made by people who disagree with them. They just throw shit at each other and wait with glee for any reply to throw more shit at it. No one goes on twitter to learn about topics and to make new opinions. They just want people with the exact same opinion to validate them and to dunk on people with the "wrong" opinion. |
addie1998 said: icefirestone23 said: 00 is good despite season 2 and trailblazer being bad? IBO is good despite season 2 being bad? All those random aus are good despite having no market demand and fewer kits and no one remembers most of the suits in the show? The "west"'s opinion desptie gundam consistenty ranking last on every single western anime forum and defying viewership and sales numbers Nah im talking about you saying gundam seed(a rip off UC gundam written for children who didn't pay attention to the original gundam) is a good series hell no lol not even close than those series lol yet it is the gundam series with the most kits and evangelion levels of success, and the only one that is getting a sequel. Choose wisely what you support. Must suck sunrise spiting you in the face for the past 20 years. Perhaps choose a different franchise. FYI, almost half of UC (ZZ, victory, narrative) is considered bad. Even 79 was a flop when it released and zeta couldn't match the success of what came before. |
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Alverdeo said: Calal-Chan said: Woke Gundam? Guess I am gonna watch it now. Probably pretty good then. Thanks for convincing me to watch it as the person who never enjoys Gundam. On another note there are a lot of sexist people in this thread. Good to know who not to talk too. And if you get upset at this remark than you might actually just be sexist yourself. "If you think the dumb shit I said is dumb then you are a chud" GO. BACK. TO. TWITTER. Made me actually laugh thank you. Made my day XD |
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terminador_2397 said: It’s amazing how bent out of shape people will get over something like this. That scene only happened because that was the condition of the match before Suletta took over and as for the same sex relationships, they probably would have eventually showed that when giving background on that society. It was the shippers who made this scene so hype that now many people come to watch this show as a lesbian romance, after which they are surprised that there was nothing in the episode except a cliffhanger. Alverdeo said: RobertBobert said: Someone still does not understand that by grossly distorting the OP's theses and using absurd scarecrows against him, you only expose yourself as clowns against the background of his position and actually make him look more likeable. Doesn't help that most of the time they only conveniently answer part of the complain. "I don't like how in this kind of shows they always show women as being way too good at everything while men are useless pushovers, irredeemable assholes or both." "Oh, so you don't like competent women?" At first I was amused by this, but then I suddenly realized that they are completely unironic using arguments that sound like an example from the "substitution of thesis" article on Wikipedia. corrutect said: RobertBobert said: When I was last on Twitter, that is, about a year and a half ago, being anti-woke on Twitter was tantamount to being gay in Chechnya. Used to be like that in the past and the site is still overall more left-leaning for sure. But still, if you are relevant in the "anti-woke-sphere", you or at least your "disciples" will have a very vocal presence on the site. There is a reason why discussions on Twitter are infamously brain-draining. People don't go there to make thought out statements and to deeply consider counter-points made by people who disagree with them. They just throw shit at each other and wait with glee for any reply to throw more shit at it. No one goes on twitter to learn about topics and to make new opinions. They just want people with the exact same opinion to validate them and to dunk on people with the "wrong" opinion. Sounds like a description of any shitty social media thread. In my country, they say about twitter that you shouldn't create an account there if you don't want to lose faith in humanity. |
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Alverdeo said: RobertBobert said: Someone still does not understand that by grossly distorting the OP's theses and using absurd scarecrows against him, you only expose yourself as clowns against the background of his position and actually make him look more likeable. Doesn't help that most of the time they only conveniently answer part of the complain. "I don't like how in this kind of shows they always show women as being way too good at everything while men are useless pushovers, irredeemable assholes or both." "Oh, so you don't like competent women?" lol, that is so true :D |
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Lightning446 said: RobertBobert said: It amuses me how you tried to reproach me for mentioning the moderators, but in the end you yourself tried to intimidate me with them. But yep, keep going. You're great at picking up dirt on yourself. It amuses me how you try to pretend I’m “reproaching” you with mod threats when you are the one to bring them up first. It amuses me when you start crying “GOODBYE I AM NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING ANYMORE WITH YOU WAH WAH” in this thread anytime someone starts to argue seriously after seeing through your poorass attempt at a pseudo-intellectual farce. It amuses me to know that 95% of this thread clowns both you and OP for being flamebaiting trolls with no real facts presented in the episode to suggest any “woke” bullshit. It makes me glad to know that I’m not the only one who thinks you and OP are alts to each other. I’m enjoying the hell out of this thread for its sheer baitiness and trolling. But you still need to go touch grass you troll. Keep compromising yourself, no problem. Seriously. MyllerPhiem said: Alverdeo said: Doesn't help that most of the time they only conveniently answer part of the complain. "I don't like how in this kind of shows they always show women as being way too good at everything while men are useless pushovers, irredeemable assholes or both." "Oh, so you don't like competent women?" lol, that is so true :D Imagine living to adulthood only to find out that in 2022 people will literally make the most basic logical fallacies and use arguments that sound like a sophistry textbook. |
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Lightning446 said: with no real facts presented in the episode to suggest any “woke” bullshit. Stopping you here, because that's a you-issue now: You're redefining reality to better suit your argument. I DID present facts, at least how they appeared to me. Doesn't mean they appeared that way for everyone. But I did present what I took issue with. At least 2-3 people here were willing to discuss and now I have reached a better understanding and will wait to see before dismissing this anime as woke. That's how discussion ought to work. Not by making up shit. |
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MyllerPhiem said: Lightning446 said: with no real facts presented in the episode to suggest any “woke” bullshit. Stopping you here, because that's a you-issue now: You're redefining reality to better suit your argument. I DID present facts, at least how they appeared to me. Doesn't mean they appeared that way for everyone. But I did present what I took issue with. At least 2-3 people here were willing to discuss and now I have reached a better understanding and will wait to see before dismissing this anime as woke. That's how discussion ought to work. Not by making up shit. You know what's the most ironic? Pretty much most of the people who accused you of speculation and asked to wait, actually ignored this advice when it came to ships and even whined at those who asked them not to overhype things. |
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LostSpectre said: Criticism of homosexuality is called being pathetic, and one stereotypical douche of a male character has fuck all to do with "man hating". If sites like anime news network is allowed to bash any hyper masculinity, ecchi, r*pe, harem, nationalistic propaganda is considered good. And hating on a show for excluding or antagonizing men is considered pathetic. Good way to alienate your core audience that actually buys and supports the product. I sense a double standard. Western media has already gotten too far with alienating anime audiences. Or have radicals force same sex ships like My Hero Academia and when people disagree, you can label the fandom as toxic. |
MyllerPhiem said: - at one point, the sub addresses Eri with "they" Not a fan of any of that :/ I was looking forward to a good Gundam-anime, now it seems like this has gone full-woke. Is this how it's gonna continue? Ugh This is a sign of a woke loocalization |
icefirestone23 said: If you had an actual point we could talk, a douchey male character is not "antagonizing men", stop looking to be offended in every aspect of media. LostSpectre said: Criticism of homosexuality is called being pathetic, and one stereotypical douche of a male character has fuck all to do with "man hating". If sites like anime news network is allowed to bash any hyper masculinity, ecchi, r*pe, harem, nationalistic propaganda is considered good. And hating on a show for excluding or antagonizing men is considered pathetic. Good way to alienate your core audience that actually buys and supports the product. I sense a double standard. Western media has already gotten too far with alienating anime audiences. Or have radicals force same sex ships like My Hero Academia and when people disagree, you can label the fandom as toxic. |
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RobertBobert said: terminador_2397 said: It’s amazing how bent out of shape people will get over something like this. That scene only happened because that was the condition of the match before Suletta took over and as for the same sex relationships, they probably would have eventually showed that when giving background on that society. It was the shippers who made this scene so hype that now many people come to watch this show as a lesbian romance, after which they are surprised that there was nothing in the episode except a cliffhanger. Alverdeo said: Doesn't help that most of the time they only conveniently answer part of the complain. "I don't like how in this kind of shows they always show women as being way too good at everything while men are useless pushovers, irredeemable assholes or both." "Oh, so you don't like competent women?" At first I was amused by this, but then I suddenly realized that they are completely unironic using arguments that sound like an example from the "substitution of thesis" article on Wikipedia. corrutect said: Used to be like that in the past and the site is still overall more left-leaning for sure. But still, if you are relevant in the "anti-woke-sphere", you or at least your "disciples" will have a very vocal presence on the site. There is a reason why discussions on Twitter are infamously brain-draining. People don't go there to make thought out statements and to deeply consider counter-points made by people who disagree with them. They just throw shit at each other and wait with glee for any reply to throw more shit at it. No one goes on twitter to learn about topics and to make new opinions. They just want people with the exact same opinion to validate them and to dunk on people with the "wrong" opinion. Sounds like a description of any shitty social media thread. In my country, they say about twitter that you shouldn't create an account there if you don't want to lose faith in humanity. People were shipping them on here? From what I saw, it was being called out as Yuri bait that probably wouldn’t go nowhere by the end of the story. |
terminador_2397 said: RobertBobert said: It was the shippers who made this scene so hype that now many people come to watch this show as a lesbian romance, after which they are surprised that there was nothing in the episode except a cliffhanger. At first I was amused by this, but then I suddenly realized that they are completely unironic using arguments that sound like an example from the "substitution of thesis" article on Wikipedia. Sounds like a description of any shitty social media thread. In my country, they say about twitter that you shouldn't create an account there if you don't want to lose faith in humanity. People were shipping them on here? From what I saw, it was being called out as Yuri bait that probably wouldn’t go nowhere by the end of the story. I was literally initially turned on by the discussion of the episode and this thread just because I was told that it became yuri and that they "became lesbians at the end". I read the comments of enthusiastic shippers, and then when I watched the episode itself, my ass was on fire. |
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RobertBobert said: terminador_2397 said: People were shipping them on here? From what I saw, it was being called out as Yuri bait that probably wouldn’t go nowhere by the end of the story. I was literally initially turned on by the discussion of the episode and this thread just because I was told that it became yuri and that they "became lesbians at the end". I read the comments of enthusiastic shippers, and then when I watched the episode itself, my ass was on fire. They haven’t become anything yet though, MC was just as confused at the end. It was a seconds long clip that could either go somewhere or not. Using that scene to say this new Gundam is going “woke” doesn’t seem right when it’s only one episode |
terminador_2397 said: RobertBobert said: I was literally initially turned on by the discussion of the episode and this thread just because I was told that it became yuri and that they "became lesbians at the end". I read the comments of enthusiastic shippers, and then when I watched the episode itself, my ass was on fire. They haven’t become anything yet though, MC was just as confused at the end. It was a seconds long clip that could either go somewhere or not. Using that scene to say this new Gundam is going “woke” doesn’t seem right when it’s only one episode Well, I tried to tell people this, but I was accused of being homophobic and so on. A complete set, in general. Imagine my surprise when the next day the same people advised critics to wait 2-3 episodes to draw conclusions. |
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MyllerPhiem said: - all girls-school with lots of lesbian vibes - ends with Eri becoming the other girl's "husband" - women good, men bad - at one point, the sub addresses Eri with "they" Not a fan of any of that :/ I was looking forward to a good Gundam-anime, now it seems like this has gone full-woke. Is this how it's gonna continue? Ugh Then why don't you drop anime as a whole. Tell me how do you feel about Tucker Carlson indirectly attacking anime, do you agree with him? What happened if he decide to throw racist insult at the Japanese and called Japan "Woke", would you side with him? Would you become racist against Japanese as a whole? |
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