Natsuki_SanJuan said: SaeLiuS said: And what "actual reviews", exactly? Those poor quality subjective ones?It is late but people still are talking about this, so I'm going to add that I think this review system is an improvement, so people can finally stop "hate reviewing" or trying to grab attention with reviews. Now the number of actual reviews will grow. Were are still missing a downvote option though. Refer to my other reply, the one above this actually. Bye. |
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| Pray a mod or admin sees this. It would be amazing if we could get not helpful option because gasp, people have differing opinions. I know that many people would like to show their disapproval in a different way then just a confused emoji. Maybe similar to AniList where you have rating freedom and can implement any type of rating on helpfulness. Anyone in charge that reads this, thank you for your time. 🙏 side note: holy crap, anilist has a thumbs down option in their reviews. |
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| Why even rehaul the entire system when we all know that the only reviewer in this site is @Stark700 and all the other reviews are just his alt to make his main acc reviews look better? |
| Nah, this new "upgrade" only made reviews worse - not being able to see the given score until you hit "Read more" just makes them super inconvenient. Adding "reactions" are not helpful as well. But the worst part is annoying pop-ups asking me to rate an anime every time I add watched episode... Most of the time I only rate series once I complete (or drop) them, so would be great having an option to turn this "feature" off by default, not individually for each anime. Overall, I'd say these changes more look like a downgrade imho. |
| MAL I'm seriously tired of this new worded system for reviews. I want to at the very least see the number score without having to expand the review. This really sucks. |
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| lol I can't even sort by "Most Helpful" anymore, only sort by "votes" (which includes "funny" "confusing" etc.) and sort by newest oldest. They even got rid of the weighted\unweighted sort. But hey, it has emoji now! I've been using this website for more than a decade and this is without a single doubt the absolute most stupid thing I've seen them do. This has made the review system completely unusable in every imaginable way. I want to use the review system to read relevant reviews that most people found helpful. Why else would there be reviews? The only reason to look at the reviews of any anime now is if you're just bored and you want to read some completely random reviews. |
| I might as well add my two cents, I guess. This whole emoji thing -- it's embarrassing. Seriously, using it makes me feel like a child (not in a good way) and it makes me feel like MAL also thinks I'm a child who would want to use this MySpace level tech. I'm legitimately insulted. Also, PLEASE bring back number scores. This new way is just dumb. |
| Quality Queen. |
| It's nice to be able to see who reacted to your review, some people were a surprise since I did not think they liked my reviews at all lol. |
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| Please return the review system to how it used to be. |
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| Lots of troll reviews became top reviews just because many people don't know that confusing/funny is an upvote 😂 |
| So, are there any news on the "Suggested" sort? It was reverted because of bugs, but it has been nearly two months, and it's still gone. I was expecting it to come back before the Summer 2022 season ended, but it didn't come back. |
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| The current review system is garbage but the old one was even worse. Conclusion: Reviews on MAL continue to suck. Just disable them completely at this point. |
TheMAM said: MAL I'm seriously tired of this new worded system for reviews. I want to at the very least see the number score without having to expand the review. This really sucks. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2044881 This might be helpful for you. |
| So far with this update I've seen only two things happening: 1. Positive reviews getting a lot of "positive" reactions, no matter if they are poorly written or just trolling. See Cyberpunk Edgerunners reviews 2. Negative reviews getting mostly "confusing" and "funny" reactions, even if the reviews are actually well-written, and give more exposition to unfounded hate reviews. See Call of the Night reviews In both cases is hard to separate good and bad reviews, this is just appealing to embrace positivism and ratio-ing any trace of criticism. Reviews section has become a literal circus. I don't really think that was your idea when you said this new system was meant to "allow review readers to give different types of feedback to the review writer beyond 'helpful' " |
| Thanks a lot for ruining the review system. Were numerical scores too "triggering" for the snowflake generation? How long until even the anime scores are replaced with these recommended/not recommended participation trophies, or worse, emojis? |
| Review system is still garbage the only difference now is that people who disagree with a review chose "Confusing" rating but it doesn't work as it should. BRING BACK DISAGREE OPTION, for f*cks sake. |
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| All I'm asking is a Dislike/Downvote option as well. Please MAL Gods... |
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RIPB0Z0 said: ACasualViewer said: It's nice to be able to see who reacted to your review, some people were a surprise since I did not think they liked my reviews at all lol. The feature goes beyond this. It demonstrates that a significant amount of current and top reviewers of the past spam upvoted their reviews with burner accounts. Just go look. Very obvious to find these individuals. You will see bulk upvotes from random string account names that were all created on the same day for that sole purpose. All of these people should be permanently banned. It is more shameful that these individuals openly do not care what harm they have done to the review system by manipulating it. Because eventually it has forced undesirable changes. Some of these individuals even had the audacity to complain about the system, while secretly contributing to its destruction. Report the reviews you see and list the spam accounts under the reactions, we're allowed to take down reviews for obvious botting. |
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| The laugh and confusing emojis are very toxic and are only used for bullying. I don't care about recommending or not, I want to see the score first. |
VirtueHunterOct 19, 2022 4:43 AM
Kineta said: Notifications for review writers are being considered for the future This would be a really nice feature to look forward to! Also, thank you for not adding a downvote button. It certainly doesn't feel nice when someone downvotes something you worked hard on . . . .  |
-Ryoto-Oct 21, 2022 10:41 AM
Manaban said: I'm going to stop right here because I don't need to waste seconds of my life skimming through the rest of this post. He was literally defending himself from somebody else saying he was rat racing. Look at the quote he was responding to. Full stop, said and done, don't care what your take is. I dont see anything that RebelPanda is supposed to defend himself against Real Human Achievement by Single "suicide note because reviews rework" H  |
Gween_Gween said: Manaban said: I'm going to stop right here because I don't need to waste seconds of my life skimming through the rest of this post. He was literally defending himself from somebody else saying he was rat racing. Look at the quote he was responding to. Full stop, said and done, don't care what your take is. I dont see anything that RebelPanda is supposed to defend himself against Real Human Achievement by Single "suicide note because reviews rework" H Yo @Kineta can we actually look into this Like this is kind of big |
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| Needs more improvement. I don't know when I posted last here - and I think it has been mentioned by others already: The reactions need to be changed so you can select more than one. Or remove all of them except like/love. Would be nice to have them visually separated into a like indicator (love/like ... maybe different ones also negative ones - for the general quality ... selecting 1 is enough here) and the other stuff that should work more like tags: Something can be well-written and informative. And if you like it ... because of that - what should you select? You can only select one and the thumbsup and love are the first ones to be shown. The other ones will naturally be used less - except by a few enthusiasts that care a lot about them ... then thinking about which one they should give. Calculating anything ranking-based (that affects order of the reviews shown) ... should only be based on the general like icon (the heart/thumbs ... heart could count twice as much as the thumbsup). |
Mangaman162 said: Marinate1016 said: The irony of calling someone a troll after writing out a one sentence reply of drivel. Anyone who is up in arms about this update is a troll. There’s no other explanation. If it were opinions to improve tweak the update that one thing. But this update destroys the current state of trolls and assholes ruining MAL which is AMAZING 🤩 !!!! No way you’re replying to this months later |
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| I can see that MAL officially tags reviews with "Funny", which i guess is the result of enough people reacting with that emoji. This is even if the author of the review evidently never wrote his review with the intention of it being comedic.  So if enough trolls bomb your reviews with funny emojis because they disagree with your opinion, eventually your review will be tagged as a "funny" review by MAL regardless of contents. One could just say moderators will fix this by users making them aware of it... and problem solved? But if i was a reviews moderator, i would rather like to focus on moderating the actual content of reviews rather than the evident abuse from users reacting to them. And as a user, i would rather like to focus on the reviews themselves rather than also having to spend time addressing issues caused by the system itself. The professionalism of the reviews section on MAL that used to be, has been thrown out of the window and replaced with a dumpster fire similar of what you'd find on a social platform like Twitter. Ever since this update, i've found myself reading a lot less reviews than i used to. The trolling and toxicity takes away too much of the immersion and i see myself having a less enjoyable experience of the one i was used to. There is a lot of great talent out there in the MAL reviews world, a lot of it which i will never discover for myself as my engagement with the reviews section has plummeted following the implementation of the update. What used to be a place for talent & professionalism to prospher has turned into a breeding ground for trolling and toxicity. To say this update has been controversial would be an understatement, with some people expressing general positivity and optimism, to some expressing critique and genuine concern. MAL's way of handling the criticism and concerns of the update has been an approach of not addressing any of it, but simply hoping for the problems to fix themselves and that time will heal any wounds. But not everyone can pull off what Apple did with the notch or the headphone jack. In the case of MAL, i don't see the problems fixing themselves, the issues will always be present causing a further rift as time goes. I don't think it's too late to reverse course, as otherwise i wouldn't be posting this. As for what comes to be, only time will tell. |
| Bring back the not helpful button ala thumbs down. |
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| alright since the review system is still shit, I'm willing to use another website for reading reviews now. Any recommendations? |
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