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Aug 22, 2022 12:49 AM

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The whole episode was cringe imo.
Except for the part where the mermaid showed up and waved goodbye, which was cute.
Aug 22, 2022 3:40 AM

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Excuse me for saying it but I'm too old to always see the same exaggerated drama that the main character comes at the end to rescue the useless and in the end nobody dies...
I am no longer made to watch an anime like this, the only thing that stands out is the animation in the fights that was very good.
Aug 22, 2022 5:19 AM

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Might be the first time I post about an episode... This one was just 😩 sooooo good. Really had my full attention!! And as always the soundtrack was perfect during that fight 😍
Respectfully ofc

Aug 22, 2022 8:31 AM

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Polvo_Aranha said:
So should I pretend I didn't notice level five Aisha didn't stand a chance against that monster, but the same monster couldn't land a single attack on level four Bell?

This episode was disappointing.
not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but bells stats are ss in most of them. And thats lvl6 shit. It has to do with his skill that grows to aiz as his goal. But besides that, how was this episode disappointing? Ive read the ln akd this was done so well you must be smoking crack if you thought this wasnt the best episode this show has put out.
Aug 22, 2022 8:54 AM
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evilchris said:
not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but bells stats are ss in most of them. And thats lvl6 shit. It has to do with his skill that grows to aiz as his goal. But besides that, how was this episode disappointing? Ive read the ln akd this was done so well you must be smoking crack if you thought this wasnt the best episode this show has put out.


I didn't say the novel didn't disappoint me too.
Aug 22, 2022 9:18 AM

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Polvo_Aranha said:
evilchris said:
not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but bells stats are ss in most of them. And thats lvl6 shit. It has to do with his skill that grows to aiz as his goal. But besides that, how was this episode disappointing? Ive read the ln akd this was done so well you must be smoking crack if you thought this wasnt the best episode this show has put out.


I didn't say the novel didn't disappoint me too.
you're right if the novel wasnt good to you then i wouldnt expect the show to be either.
Aug 22, 2022 9:20 AM

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Polvo_Aranha said:
evilchris said:
not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but bells stats are ss in most of them. And thats lvl6 shit. It has to do with his skill that grows to aiz as his goal. But besides that, how was this episode disappointing? Ive read the ln akd this was done so well you must be smoking crack if you thought this wasnt the best episode this show has put out.


I didn't say the novel didn't disappoint me too.
but wait a couple months and watch the next half. Idk if you read the novels up all the way, but when bell and ryuu have an adventure it gets even better. So that might be good to you.
Aug 22, 2022 9:20 AM
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evilchris said:
you're right if the novel wasnt good to you then i wouldnt expect the show to be either.


Believe or not, people can enjoy something and still think some decisions the author made were lazy and/or cliche.
Aug 22, 2022 9:23 AM

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Polvo_Aranha said:
evilchris said:
you're right if the novel wasnt good to you then i wouldnt expect the show to be either.


Believe or not, people can enjoy something and still think some decisions the author made were lazy and/or cliche.
i understand that point, and im not one to to bitch needlessly. I have low standards for the most part. I just felt this last episode did so many things right for what i wanted in the adaptations
Aug 23, 2022 3:57 PM
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"ARGO VESTA" wohohoho.. new skill unlocked, btw... apa ini benar atau tidak, seharusnya belati bell cranel itu anti magic karena terbuat dari mitril, cuman karena ada tulisan dewa atau buatan dari dewi hephaestus menjadikan belati ini unik dan mungkin juga hanya bell cranel saja yang bisa menggunakannya, apalagi seingat gua belati ini ikut berkembang atau tumbuh sesuai penggunanya yaitu bell cranel..., itu sih menurut gua..., btw epic moment sekali ketika bell cranel datang disaat keputusasaan mulai datang, fumu...fumu pokoknya keren
Aug 23, 2022 7:54 PM

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The sound from the Argonaut skill always gives me slight chills, I love it.




Aug 23, 2022 9:41 PM

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Lmao at the sudden mental gymnastics they came up with in order to justify Bell's convenient power-up with new attack included.
But man, they sure did power-boost Aisha dirty this episode, huh? And the same could be said about the Moss Huge as well. The thing conveniently got dumber the moment MC appeared on screen.
Aug 24, 2022 2:22 PM

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finally some good f**ing fight scene
Aug 25, 2022 4:53 AM

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Bell getting some random powerups in the middle just never gets old, never. Though yeah that's what Danmachi is about, Bell beating some asses and getting some asses.
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Lmao at the sudden mental gymnastics they came up with in order to justify Bell's convenient power-up with new attack included.
So true lol.
Aug 25, 2022 6:53 AM
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Final good!!! but the way man what it's coming for the series??? it end at a point that I don't know omg
Aug 25, 2022 8:02 AM
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awsome great start for a new season
Aug 26, 2022 12:58 AM

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Haruhime's support magic looked impressive and Aisha forcing non-party members to keep quiet about it makes sense.

That Moss Huge monster was a scary opponent. I wonder if there will be more of those types of cunning monsters. Also, Bell's Argo Vesta was impressive.

Aug 26, 2022 8:00 AM
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my man did'nt even got a reward defeating a boss
Aug 26, 2022 2:35 PM

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bell op 5/5 level boost him hehe
Aug 26, 2022 3:56 PM
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...That was one of the most insane powerups I've seen Bell ever go thru. Seeing him finally have his mind catch up with his body was incredible, and the emotion I felt when the party decided to stay and fight when all hope seemed lost was amazing to experience. Definitely loving Danmachi's 4th season!
Aug 26, 2022 9:39 PM
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Foi um final exmaquina
Aug 27, 2022 3:04 AM
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it was very exciting episode
Aug 27, 2022 5:46 AM
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the fight was so emotional, that I had tears in my eyes
Aug 27, 2022 7:42 AM
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This was a good episode. Bell has gotten used to his power which is cool and Argo Vesta was amazing to see. What happens next though?
Aug 27, 2022 7:46 PM
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This episode was scrumpdiliumptious
Aug 28, 2022 7:56 AM

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bestttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aug 28, 2022 2:49 PM

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ARGO VESTA??
HOLY FUCK WHAT HAPPENED
Aug 29, 2022 8:26 AM

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Bell's upgrade was awesome!
Aug 30, 2022 3:31 AM
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Rinrinka said:
Err...so...
Bell is stronger than his own teammates combined?
That level and mind explanation of Mikoto and the others made sense but isnt Bell way too strong for a level 5, I mean there is Haruhime-enhanced Aisha too who is supposed to be equal to Bell if you do the math.
Are you sure Bell isn't level 7 or something? Oh well I guess plot armor saved the day again yaay


I'm worried about next episode since the team might go to the town next, which means Hestia scene, no god please no, I beg you no Hestia scene next episode.
...and so many still images used there in the fight, felt like I was watching slideshow rather than anime.

I'll give you a simple example. Bell has raised past levels of SSS to 4 levels. Compared, SSS is 1200 points, while A is 800 points. Aisha, level 5 multiplied by 800 equals 4000, while Belle's level 4 is 1200 multiplied by 4. 4800 Just now, you can see that Bell is stronger than Aisha. Do you still think the power level is ridiculous?
Aug 30, 2022 3:31 AM
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Ah yes.. Bell with his huge dick can easily one shot the Moss but Aisha a far trained and experienced Fighter with same level as Bell and boosted can't even scratch the Moss .

Danmachi never really had a well executed plot but holy shit..does it even shits on its own powerlevels just so everyone can sucky sucky Bell Genatalia..

God i hope the next arc gives us something besides the "Oh no! everyone is powerless! but wait! Bell will save the day again!"

a BS plot with BS characters.. (Aishaisnice..)


I'll give you a simple example. Bell has raised past levels of SSS to 4 levels. Compared, SSS is 1200 points, while A is 800 points. Aisha, level 5 multiplied by 800 equals 4000, while Belle's level 4 is 1200 multiplied by 4. 4800 Just now, you can see that Bell is stronger than Aisha. Do you still think the power level is ridiculous?
Aug 30, 2022 3:33 AM
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Polvo_Aranha said:

The worst part about the Level-Boost Level 5 being weaker than a Full Power Level 4 in this episode is creates a plot hole in this series.

Do you remember when Level-Boost Level 4 Bell defeated Full Power Level 4 Aisha in season 2? According to this explanation, he shouldn't even stand a chance against a Full Power Level 3 (so a real Level 4 like Aisha...) because, apparently, Level-Boost raises a level, but not at all.

I'm sorry, but today's episode script has just lazy writing.

Bell and Aisha were both level 3 when they fought for the second time in season 2. Only difference is that she was a peak level 3 and bell was a fresh level 3. He was only level boosted when he fought Phryne that frog woman, then waited before his level boost wore down to fight Aisha without it. Re watch that fight again or better read volume 7 of the light novels, it should be at the last chapter where you can find the fight. In addition to that bell over levels each time he ranks up with SS or SSS Stats since level 1 thanks to his Realis Freese growth skill. Meaning has a stronger foundation of stats with each level up making stronger than most people within the same level as himself and can even match up to a person above his current level with good effort. So bell as a fresh level 4 as stated was upper tier strength wise level 4 and peak level 4 speed wise without getting used to his new level up. But after the Iguazu fight in the lower levels his new acclimated body can take on fresh to lower end level 5 threats well enough. He'd still currently lose to a high end Level 5, and definitely lose against a level 6.


I'll give you a simple example. Bell has raised past levels of SSS to 4 levels. Compared, SSS is 1200 points, while A is 800 points. Aisha, level 5 multiplied by 800 equals 4000, while Belle's level 4 is 1200 multiplied by 4. 4800 Just now, you can see that Bell is stronger than Aisha. Do you still think the power level is ridiculous?
Aug 30, 2022 6:59 AM
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just amazing, cant wait for the next ep
Aug 30, 2022 5:04 PM

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too many 'still frames' were used during the 'party fight' moments. but the final boss fight between Moss Huge and Bell was full on KICK A$$! :D
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Aug 31, 2022 10:50 PM
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Heck Yeah! Argo Vesta has arrived!
Sep 3, 2022 6:45 PM

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Interesting action scene at the end finally. Reminded me of the minotaur fight in season 1, if a lot less interesting. Then again, if the most impressive, nay, only impressive thing about the media you've created is spectacle, you've failed as a creator.

4.5/10, less cringe more depth please
Sep 7, 2022 2:41 AM
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PagMan Episode!!
Sep 10, 2022 10:37 AM

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Fantastic fight, damn Bell always was bottlenecked haha. Damn that mermaid I need her.

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Sep 15, 2022 7:34 PM
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WOOOOOOWWW Best episode, I got so much chills. Pretty sure he's gonna level up again.
Sep 17, 2022 3:44 PM
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Annikilation said:
WOOOOOOWWW Best episode, I got so much chills. Pretty sure he's gonna level up again.


For some perspective, Bell started adventurering and took 1 month to get to lvl 2, 2 months to get to lvl 3 and 3 months for lvl 4, for a total of 6 months.
He just leveled to 4.

For "normal" adventurers, it can takes years to level up even once.
Sep 21, 2022 9:31 PM

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Bell sure has grown stronger than before, and him using his sword the way he did surprised even Welf who knew what he was up to and was ready to assist him anyway he can. It's great that although Welf and company knew they couldn't really win the fight with those monsters without Bell, they still fought their hardest and kept everyone alive long enough for Bell to catch up with them.
Oct 4, 2022 2:41 AM

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Argo Vesta scene was nice, good OST and amazing visiuals. JC Staff is doing a good job about Danmachi this season.
Oct 9, 2022 11:26 AM

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People who hate overpowered characters always saving the day must be going nuts right now hahahaha
Oct 17, 2022 3:20 AM
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from zero to about a hero, but still so naive. That's ma boi
Oct 27, 2022 3:27 PM
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i was kind of hoping that moss thing killed off some of the non-important heroes from the other parties prior to bell's arrival. i thought it would add some real adversity to the plot. oh well

mermaid girl didn't really do anything for me. don't feel like her presence added anything in these episodes. she's only introduced now so that whatever asspull later on makes sense?

did "something" happen when he was alone and killed all those bird things trying to dive bomb him? a stat boost/power up?
Oct 28, 2022 9:18 PM
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The final fight between Bell and the Huge Green Moss was amazing, similar to when he first fought and defeated the minotaur. Not to the same hype but excellent still.
Nov 12, 2022 12:01 AM

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That Argo Vesta and fighting style are crazy! Love this episode!
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Nov 12, 2022 7:46 PM

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That was sick hoooly..

Jan 23, 2023 5:35 AM
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Same as with last episode, great amount of action. This one was awesome. Always love gettiing to see Bell at his fullest in battle as they are the most pinacle points of the series.
Feb 8, 2023 11:22 AM

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after lilis speech and here comes bell to save everyone quite predictable but still felt good

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Mar 4, 2023 8:27 AM
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Haruhime looks so beautiful during that enchantment spell. It bothers me that they haven't considered using that level boost against that monster from the start, especially during the rescue attempt. It was pretty obvious how powerful it was during the initial encounter. It was a no-brainer that they should've given it their all against it.
I love seeing Mikoto get so banged up! She still looks sexy with all those wounds.
Anyway, that was a good fight. Bell's final attack looked cool!
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