| Slovakia: For public support of Russia, you may face 25 years in prison. https://spravy.rtvs.sk/2022/02/za-podporu-vojnovej-propagandy-hrozi-az-dozivotie/ Is this the so-called "pro-freedom of speech" west? Lol. |
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QPR said: This is big, Uranian pilots have just landed in Poland to pick up EU funded fighter jets. They can destroy the 10 mile long convoys very easily. Russia will suffer huge losses. Belarus have said they will not join in, they know the loss in coming. LMAO at the moron who loves China talking about freedom of speech. 149597871 said: Because I, for the matter, are not a hypocrite.Indeed lol. Pathetic statement considering that Putin arrested 6000 of his own people for merely waving anti-war signs at a protest. I am unabashedly for the suppression of reactionary ideas. I never sugarcoat it with fake propaganda of "freedom and democracy", unlike the western world, who is a big hypocrite. Anyways I saw a western guy waving Ukraine flag in China on twitter some days ago and he's doing fine. |
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| Those convoys are close in a good straight line for those EU jets ngl. |
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| That would be catastrophic for the Russians. But don't they have jets of their own to prevent that? It would be crazy if they are attacking with so many ground vehicles with no air support. It would not surprise me too much, though. Putin's strategy reminds me of Mordor's. Absolutely no fucks given for the men he sacrifices, as if he's some sort of fantasy dark lord or something. |
| Reportedly the advance on the southern/southeastern front is faring very well. Russian tanks are storming into the area in and around Kherson, the large city of southern Ukraine and in close proximity to Crimea, as we speak. They've encircled it and the Russian military is setting up checkpoints at every exit point and all roads leading out of the city. The mayor of Kherson is announcing an order for civilians to stay in their homes and not get pulled into any fighting for their own safety. Also the power grid and electricity is apparently completely knocked out in Mariupol also on the southeastern (and Donbass) front. It's the second largest city in Donetsk oblast. They're encircling Mariupol and the Donetsk People's Republic's figures stated the goal for today is Mariupol's complete encirclement. Now the Russian Defense Ministry announced severing rump Ukraine's access to the Sea of Azov coast as of literally 25 minutes ago: Russia cuts off Ukrainian military from the Sea of Azov MOSCOW, March 1 (Reuters) - Russian forces have cut off the Ukrainian military from the Sea of Azov north of the Black Sea, the TASS news agency quoted Russia's defence ministry as saying on Tuesday. The forces of Russian-backed separatists have reached the borders of Ukraine's Donetsk province and joined Russian troops, another agency, RIA, quoted the ministry as saying. (Reporting by Moscow newsroom; editing by Jason Neely) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russia-cuts-off-ukraine-military-124604953.html Meanwhile the second largest city in the country, Kharkov, in eastern Ukraine, is having the governmental HQ shelled and struck with missiles. All this while the force being built up all around Kiev is enormous and seems poised to strike perhaps within the day. |
WatchTillTandavaMar 1, 2022 5:22 AM
| I'm not sure but I think Russia will win it inevitably because of its superior military. I think war should only be fought if they have some reasonable chances of winning, otherwise all casualties will be in vain Ukraine should just surrender immediately, that seems like the best outcome |
| It seems that Bulgaria couldn't provide the promised fighter jets. I wouldn't blame them. Asking Bulgaria for 30 fighter jets is like asking me for a billion dollars. It is not that I don't want to. It is just that I don't have them. fishyrishi said: I'm not sure but I think Russia will win it inevitably because of its superior military. I think war should only be fought if they have some reasonable chances of winning, otherwise all casualties will be in vain Ukraine should just surrender immediately, that seems like the best outcome It is okay to have this opinion, but by that logic, Russia can annex all its neighbors one by one and they should all surrender, and then do the same again and again, until there's no one but China and the US left. Ukrainian people are fighting for the future of the free world. |
149597871 said: It seems that Bulgaria couldn't provide the promised fighter jets. I wouldn't blame them. Asking Bulgaria for 30 fighter jets is like asking me for a billion dollars. It is not that I don't want to. It is just that I don't have them. fishyrishi said: I'm not sure but I think Russia will win it inevitably because of its superior military. I think war should only be fought if they have some reasonable chances of winning, otherwise all casualties will be in vain Ukraine should just surrender immediately, that seems like the best outcome It is okay to have this opinion, but by that logic, Russia can annex all its neighbors one by one and they should all surrender, and then do the same again and again, until there's no one but China and the US left. Ukrainian people are fighting for the future of the free world. I think they have been subject to countless economic sanctions and penalties, enough for them to not attempt something like this in the future But you are correct, if other nations begin to think they can get away with this sort of thing, it will lead to chaos |
Desolated said: Slovakia: For public support of Russia, you may face 25 years in prison. https://spravy.rtvs.sk/2022/02/za-podporu-vojnovej-propagandy-hrozi-az-dozivotie/ Is this the so-called "pro-freedom of speech" west? Lol. There is not freedom of speech in the West, but the people there do not mysteriously disappear when they express non-orthodox opinions, they are "simply" taken to jail. |
149597871 said: Putin still needs time to recover from taking one single country with much inferior equipment also their regular forces are highly underfunded, lacking GPS and even night vision goggles (100 bucks on Amazon), if he is struggling with 1 nation let alone against 30 maybe 32, as we definitely counting on Finland and Sweden, the U.S should bring more forces to Europe and bring nuclear weapons to Poland and place them very close do Kaliningrad as deterrence. Also, close the Baltic sea to the Russians and the Bosphorus straits.It seems that Bulgaria couldn't provide the promised fighter jets. I wouldn't blame them. Asking Bulgaria for 30 fighter jets is like asking me for a billion dollars. It is not that I don't want to. It is just that I don't have them. fishyrishi said: I'm not sure but I think Russia will win it inevitably because of its superior military. I think war should only be fought if they have some reasonable chances of winning, otherwise all casualties will be in vain Ukraine should just surrender immediately, that seems like the best outcome It is okay to have this opinion, but by that logic, Russia can annex all its neighbors one by one and they should all surrender, and then do the same again and again, until there's no one but China and the US left. Ukrainian people are fighting for the future of the free world. |
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| Since the nuclear threat is already too high I don't doubt it would be wise for NATO to save parts of western Ukraine. Ukraine war: Russians wait in queues for cash as rouble plunges and hyperinflation looms Ordinary Russians faced the prospect of higher prices and crimped foreign travel as Western sanctions over the invasion of Ukraine sent the rouble plummeting and people queuing for cash outside banks. The Russian currency plunged about 30 per cent against the US dollar on Monday after Western nations announced moves to block some Russian banks from the SWIFT international payment system and to restrict Russia's use of its massive foreign currency reserves. The exchange rate later recovered ground after swift action by Russia's central bank, which more than doubled the key interest rate to support the rouble. Ukraine war: What part is hackers’ collective Anonymous playing in the war effort against Russia? Thermobaric rockets: Russia's most fearsome weapon that could destroy a city block in a single shot But later in the day, the US Treasury Department announced new sanctions that would immobilise any assets of the Russian central bank in the United States or held by Americans. The Biden administration estimated that the move could impact "hundreds of billions of dollars" of Russian funding. Biden administration officials said Germany, France, the UK, Italy, Japan, European Union and others will join the US in targeting the Russian central bank. Run on Russian banks In Russia, people wary that sanctions would deal a crippling blow to the economy have been flocking to banks and ATMs for days, with reports on social media of long lines and machines running out. Moscow's department of public transport warned city residents over the weekend that they might experience problems with using Apple Pay, Google Pay, and Samsung Pay to pay fares because VTB, one of the Russian banks facing sanctions, handles card payments in Moscow's metro, buses and trams. "It’s going to ripple through their economy really fast. Anything that is imported is going to see the local cost in currency surge" David Feldman Professor of Economics, William & Mary in Virginia A sharp devaluation of the rouble would mean a drop in the standard of living for the average Russian. That's because Russians are still reliant on a multitude of imported goods and the prices for those items are likely to skyrocket. Foreign travel would also become more expensive as their roubles buy less currency abroad. And the deeper economic turmoil will come in the coming weeks if price shocks and supply-chain issues cause Russian factories to shut down due to lower demand. "It’s going to ripple through their economy really fast," said David Feldman, a professor of economics at William & Mary in Virginia. "Anything that is imported is going to see the local cost in currency surge. The only way to stop it will be heavy subsidisation". Ukraine war: Russia's Central Bank scrambles to contain sanctions fallout as rouble hits record low Ukraine gets Elon Musk's Starlink satellite terminals - and a friendly warning about safety Spectre of hyperinflation The Russian government would have to step in to support declining industries, banks, and economic sectors, but without access to hard currencies like the US dollar and euro, authorities may have to resort to printing more roubles, which economists say could quickly spiral into hyperinflation. The rouble slide recalled previous crises for Russians. The currency lost much of its value in the early 1990s after the end of the Soviet Union, with inflation and loss of value leading the government to lop three zeros off rouble notes in 1997. Then came a further drop after a 1998 financial crisis in which many depositors lost savings and yet another plunge in 2014 due to falling oil prices and sanctions imposed after Russia seized Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula. Russia’s central bank immediately stepped in to try to halt the slide of the rouble on Monday. It sharply raised its key interest rate in a desperate attempt to shore up the currency and prevent a run on banks. It also said the Moscow stock exchange would remain closed Monday. Ukraine war: St Javelin and the missile that has become a symbol of Ukrainian resistance Ukraine: Russian space chief suggests ISS could crash into US or Europe as a result of sanctions The bank hiked the benchmark rate to 20 per cent from 9.5 per cent. That followed a Western decision Sunday to freeze Russia's hard currency reserves, an unprecedented move that could have devastating consequences for the country’s financial stability. It was unclear exactly what share of Russia’s estimated $640 billion (€569 billion) hard currency pile, some of which is held outside Russia, would be paralysed by the decision. European officials said that at least half of it will be affected. That dramatically raised pressure on the rouble by undermining financial authorities’ ability to support it by using reserves to purchase roubles. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov described the new sanctions that included a freeze on Russia’s hard currency reserves as "heavy," but argued on Monday that “Russia has the necessary potential to compensate the damage". Rouble hits record low against US dollar The central bank ordered other measures to help banks cope with the crisis by infusing more cash into the financial system and easing restrictions for banking operations. At the same time, it temporarily barred non-residents from selling the government obligations to help ease the pressure on the rouble from panicky foreign investors trying to cash out of such investments. The steps taken to support the rouble are themselves painful since raising interest rates can hold back growth by making it more expensive for companies to get credit. The rouble sank about 30 per cent against the U.S. dollar early Monday but steadied after the central bank's move. Earlier, it traded at a record low of 105.27 per dollar, down from about 84 per dollar late Friday, before recovering to 94.43. Sanctions announced last week had taken the Russian currency to its lowest level against the dollar in history. https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/02/28/ukraine-war-russians-wait-in-queues-for-cash-as-rouble-plunges-and-hyperinflation-looms |
''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.'' |
| The Russian central bank managed to stop the rouble from falling until the beginning of the week by buying large amount of money but it looks like it's the end of it. the fall is catastrophic for the economy, and it doesn't look like it stabilized yet. Euro is also falling due to that mess though, and while it's nowhere as much as the Rouble, this should still have an impact. |
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WatchTillTandava said: I absolutely agree with you here and thanks again for the elaborate responseWe need more neutral countries that actually give a damn about their own people and not grandstanding vanity projects like empires abroad. Oman comes a bit surprising, but it makes sense based on your explanation This makes me btw wonder about the formation of the blocks We have the Anglo-Saxon world with the EU and affiliated countries as one major group We have Russia and affiliated countries with China mostly We have India We have the Hispanic world doing kinda their own thing, but I do not see them anywhere important in the course of the action as the others The Anglo-Saxon world on its own is already a block with military and economic supremacy and the resources, same as China though China even more with the resources, especially when in a strategic partnership with Russia Now the key-point here is that Russia would form a much better symbiosis with the EU, as it's not only the culture being more closely shared, but it could lead to the formation of the biggest power block: economic and military supremacy and plenty of important resources I guess this whole circus is about the prevention of Eurasia becoming a thing, because it would be bad for both the USA ("Oceania") and China ("East Asia") to have a third power rivaling them |
Tannhauser said: There weren't two World Cups due to World War II and even then Germany was excluded from the 1950 edition. It's not unlike what is happening now in Russia because of recent events. What seems weird to me is how Russia is getting expelled from FIFA and other sports organizations. Those who know anything about international sport should be aware that one of their original purposes is to let hostile nations to interact with each other in a peaceful manner, i.e. its a form of diplomacy of sorts. Seeing this and other petty actions taken by international community which serve no strategic purpose looks like they want to demonize Russia further. And by the way, given my point of view here all the hatred towards Russia and Russians I encounter on the web along with sanctions and ongoing war doesn't make me hate Russian government. On the contrary, I'm starting to feel resentment towards the people of collective West who exploit both countries I belong to. If Russian government is any competent and if Russians and non-nationalistic Ukrainians are any sensible, the west creates a bitter enemy now. If the stories of the soviet brutality during WWII aren't a hoax like many like to claim, I'm starting to see where their hatred towards Germans of that time came from. I really hope that this nightmarish circus will end soon, but it feels like it's only going to get worse. I'm sorry, but this sounds as if the West planned it to get support from the Ukraine, when the Ukrainians themselves were being threatened since the 90s. |
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| No, but I live in one where without going to war it has the worst inflation in the world and extreme poverty everywhere. We were also living in misery for 7 years, and only because the government refused to look for an alternative in the economy under the pretext of sanctions. I have almost 20 years with national propaganda that the Westerners or Colombia will invade our territory - And they are in our continent - and to this day I don't see an American plane hovering in the Andes. So, the Ukrainians spent almost 30 years with Russian threats to their territory (Plus a previous invasion of a country like Georgia) but that didn't seem true because it was "American propaganda" - And well, we already know how the US and Russia attack each other - I don't know what other sense there is that someone, even one who is not a nationalist, is afraid that one of their own runs that risk (which is happening now). Nothing against - And I also think that this war is nonsense (That the West didn't start it though) - but here I also read users who seem to justify the Russian invasion as if Ukraine weren't a country and that it should belong to the extinct Russian empire because history says so. They live in the past. |
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| NATO forces step up military training in Poland, Estonia and Germany |
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Tannhauser said: When I spoke of the past, I was referring to the other users who do refer to Ukraine as a country that deserves to surrender and be occupied, without the right to autonomy.@Rachiba Well, I've lived in Ukraine all my life and I can tell you that it has nothing to do with the "past". I, as a Ukrainian citizen, didn't ask NATO for help, okay? I didn't support the overthrow of government in 2014 either. Unlike foreigners who are being fed with propaganda I actually lived in this country and know what is going on since 2004. If only NATO fucked off and promised Russia not to expand eastward anymore, nothing would happen. And even if it DID happen, getting occupied without a fight would still be better than destroying your own country and getting killed over some lines on the map when it's obvious that Russia is much stronger. Now people die, property is destroyed and many desperate civilians have weapons they will use not only against the invaders, but also against their fellow countrymen to loot and murder. Given the nature of USSR, a great number of Ukrainians have relatives in Russia and vice versa, and now they have to fight each other. Do you even realize how despicable it that? Meanwhile the West cries about protecting "freedom". What kind of freedom is that when you are denied your native language and your president gets overthrown in a foreing-backed insurrection? Right now Ukrainian men can't even flee the country and are forcefully conscripted to the army to die over nothing. Is this what the West calls freedom? The ex-Soviet countries asked for years to belong to the organization, NATO wasn't obliged to annex them to theirs either. But what right did a country like Russia have to make the decisions of other countries? One thing was the fear of expansion, another thing was to threaten two countries like Georgia and Ukraine (Both that to this day aren't annexed to NATO) with invasions and declare pro-Russian republics. You can't blame your country because a bigger one invented all these fears to even raze other cities outside of the eastern Ukrainian region. The 2014 protests would have been peaceful if the government had not used police force to repress the protesters, who wanted Ukraine to have a chance to get out of the crisis with a bloc like the EU. And look how only that led to Russia wanting to take Donbas by force, do military exercises near the Ukrainian border and now this. This is not even about the West clamoring for Freedom or anything, this is about an injustice submitted to a country that had nothing to do with what Russia demanded and now you're going to have people with worse feelings for that country than what American propaganda said about it. |
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Rachiba said: I think one example of ex-Soviet states asking to be their own countries isTannhauser said: When I spoke of the past, I was referring to the other users who do refer to Ukraine as a country that deserves to surrender and be occupied, without the right to autonomy.@Rachiba Well, I've lived in Ukraine all my life and I can tell you that it has nothing to do with the "past". I, as a Ukrainian citizen, didn't ask NATO for help, okay? I didn't support the overthrow of government in 2014 either. Unlike foreigners who are being fed with propaganda I actually lived in this country and know what is going on since 2004. If only NATO fucked off and promised Russia not to expand eastward anymore, nothing would happen. And even if it DID happen, getting occupied without a fight would still be better than destroying your own country and getting killed over some lines on the map when it's obvious that Russia is much stronger. Now people die, property is destroyed and many desperate civilians have weapons they will use not only against the invaders, but also against their fellow countrymen to loot and murder. Given the nature of USSR, a great number of Ukrainians have relatives in Russia and vice versa, and now they have to fight each other. Do you even realize how despicable it that? Meanwhile the West cries about protecting "freedom". What kind of freedom is that when you are denied your native language and your president gets overthrown in a foreing-backed insurrection? Right now Ukrainian men can't even flee the country and are forcefully conscripted to the army to die over nothing. Is this what the West calls freedom? The ex-Soviet countries asked for years to belong to the organization, NATO wasn't obliged to annex them to theirs either. But what right did a country like Russia have to make the decisions of other countries? One thing was the fear of expansion, another thing was to threaten two countries like Georgia and Ukraine (Both that to this day aren't annexed to NATO) with invasions and declare pro-Russian republics. You can't blame your country because a bigger one invented all these fears to even raze other cities outside of the eastern Ukrainian region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| Soooooo... tonight two very long heavy trains with nothing but freshly painted Bradley APCs rumbled through. That is some shit you don't see every day. They held up traffic and people were saying 'give em hell' and stuff like that. Brought a tear to my eye. Annnnnnd... he is dead. Killed by Alpha Group. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pro-putin-chechen-general-who-led-gay-purge-killed-in-ukraine/ar-AAUthdx?ocid=msedgntp |
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A U.S. official said a miles-long armoured column bearing down on the capital Kyiv had not made any advances in the past 24 hours, frozen in place by logistics problems, short on fuel and food, and perhaps pausing to reassess tactics. REUTERS And Kyiv is pretty far up north, and it's still winter. |
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| I was actually impressed by Biden's State of the Union speech today. I can't hide my disappointment that he didn't say anything about targeting the Russian oil/energy. And perhaps he shouldn't have mentioned vaccines since people seem to be way too divided on the topic, but in general, it was way better than I anticipated. Not mentioning Afghanistan was a good move. Great foreign policy overall. I'll leave the domestic issues to Americans themselves. |
| This stupid propaganda playbook is always used against the individual leader of whichever country the Western establishment chooses to wage a war on or has conflicting interests with. "Our enemies cannot possibly be rational and enlightened like we are, nor can any other country outside of our control and its leadership and people have legitimate national security interests like we do. Therefore we will explain to you why Leader X is just STUPID, CRAZY/INSANE, and/or EVIL". Or apparently, desperate and dying of some disease. Heard it all before - the Hitlerian hysterics like how even 75 years after World War II concluded people try to use pop psychology to psychoanalyze Hitler, claim he was a meth addict, was secretly gay or Jewish or whatever. And the same is used even against leaders of relatively small countries/minor players whenever they want to legitimize a bombing campaign or any other form of war/military operation against a country. It feels like a verbatim play-by-play of everything thrown out about Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, Muammar Qaddafi, Bashar al-Assad, etc. It's so tiresome and predictable at this point. They always try to make it about the leader and their imaginary health ailments and sexual fetishes and addictions and fears and mommy issues and height and weight and...on and on and on. It's ridiculous. Because actually talking about the issues behind the conflict openly, honestly, and seriously would, in their minds apparently, legitimize the other side by even acknowledging those issues exist from their perspective, and that other countries could have interests based on material geostrategic concerns and not just the U.S. and its own bloc. Can't have that! Everyone who doesn't want to just roll over and submit must be an irrational lunatic or a demon. Remember they carried on pushing the "story" for months that Kim Jong-un was dead and North Korea secretly leaderless? Some Western (especially U.S. and British English language) propaganda is so sophisticated it's really the finest achievement in media and communications manipulation in the 21st century and would make Joseph Goebbels proud, especially compared to some of the Russian and Chinese stuff. But then they have stuff like this which is just so crude and transparent and seems like it wouldn't have changed much from the early 20th century. |
WatchTillTandavaMar 2, 2022 2:03 AM
WatchTillTandava said: This stupid propaganda playbook is always used against the individual leader of whichever country the Western establishment chooses to wage a war on or has conflicting interests with. "Our enemies cannot possibly be rational and enlightened like we are, nor can any other country outside of our control and its leadership and people have legitimate national security interests like we do. Therefore we will explain to you why Leader X is just STUPID, CRAZY/INSANE, and/or EVIL". Or apparently, desperate and dying of some disease. Heard it all before - the Hitlerian hysterics like how even 75 years after World War II concluded people try to use pop psychology to psychoanalyze Hitler, claim he was a meth addict, was secretly gay or Jewish or whatever. And the same is used even against leaders of relatively small countries/minor players whenever they want to legitimize a bombing campaign or any other form of war/military operation against a country. It feels like a verbatim play-by-play of everything thrown out about Saddam Hussein, Slobodan Milosevic, Muammar Qaddafi, Bashar al-Assad, etc. It's so tiresome and predictable at this point. They always try to make it about the leader and their imaginary health ailments and sexual fetishes and addictions and fears and mommy issues and height and weight and...on and on and on. It's ridiculous. Because actually talking about the issues behind the conflict openly, honestly, and seriously would, in their minds apparently, legitimize the other side by even acknowledging those issues exist from their perspective, and that other countries could have interests based on material geostrategic concerns and not just the U.S. and its own bloc. Can't have that! Everyone who doesn't want to just roll over and submit must be an irrational lunatic or a demon. Remember they carried on pushing the "story" for months that Kim Jong-un was dead and North Korea secretly leaderless? Some Western (especially U.S. and British English language) propaganda is so sophisticated it's really the finest achievement in media and communications manipulation in the 21st century and would make Joseph Goebbels proud, especially compared to some of the Russian and Chinese stuff. But then they have stuff like this which is just so crude and transparent and seems like it wouldn't have changed much from the early 20th century. what do you mean? I read that Putin is FURIOUS because the WEST won the war, there is no propaganda in the west, leave that to literally nazi germany China and the next coming of Hitler Putin |
| Putin made a similar excuse when he invaded Georgia and people are still buying that shit. Also, lmao at the guy hijacking this topic just to post his own agenda. |
LordTuchankaMar 2, 2022 4:04 AM
| As predicted, the Russian army starts abandoning some of its armored vehicles, including a seemingly undamaged TOS-1A (the thermobaric multiple rocket launcher). https://twitter.com/clashreport/status/1498996064808054795/photo/1 There are tons pictures of videos of other equipment and "less deadly" vehicles being abandoned from all over the country. It appears that being stranded for 7 days in a military vehicle somewhere in Ukraine during the winter without fuel or food is not fun. It seems the "Blitzkrieg" is now over, and they are thinking of new strategies, mainly bombarding civilian areas. But Putin says it's all according to plan, so I suppose he must be right. https://twitter.com/i_army_org/status/1498231316587991042 |
| So kind of Russia to donate TOR launchers to Ukrainian farmers. Also as stated by sources on previous Funker530's live stream, there appear to be 20,000 foreign veteran volunteers, gathered in Poland, there is a possibility that they might have already crossed the border, it's unknown which positions they are going to cover, maybe the western flank or straight into Kyiv. Russian forces are engaged in four primary efforts at this time: Main effort—Kyiv; Supporting effort #1—Kharkiv; Supporting effort #2—Mariupol; and Supporting effort #3—Kherson and west. Main Effort—Kyiv Axis: Russian forces continue to move into position and to resupply in preparation for a likely attempt to envelop Kyiv from the west.[2] Russian operations on this axis consist of a main effort aimed at enveloping and ultimately encircling the city from the west and supporting efforts along the Chernihiv and Sumy axes to encircle it from the northeast and east. Subordinate main effort west of Kyiv along the west bank of the Dnipro The long column approaching Kyiv from the northwest (on the west bank of the Dnipro) reported by Maxar Technologies consists of numerous trucks and an indeterminate number of combat vehicles. Elements of the 104th Regiment of the 76th Airborne Division based around Pskov are likely accompanying the convoy along with artillery and engineering assets including bridging equipment. Additional combat elements are in defensive positions oriented toward Antonov Airfield in Holstomel according to imagery provided by Maxar Technologies, likely screening the convoy against possible Ukrainian attacks from near the airfield, control of which is contested. ISW is unable to assess the overall combat power in this convoy at publication time. Reports that the convoy’s length grew from 17 to 40 miles are likely inaccurate. A spokesperson from Maxar Technologies has clarified to ISW that Maxar obtained new imagery showing more of the convoy, not the convoy getting longer. Russian forces are present in the northwest outskirts of Kyiv. The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reported Russian forces looting in areas of Kyiv’s western suburbs in Bucha, Hostolmel, and Novy Basaniv on March 1.[3] Ukraine’s General Staff reports that Russian forces at unspecified locations near Kyiv have taken up and are fortifying defensive positions, activity consistent with preparations for an encirclement and subsequent siege of the capital.[4] A Maxar spokesperson noted to ISW that imagery shows a significant concentration of Russian forces at Zdvyzhivka, a village on the road between Antonov Airfield and the ring road leading south, along which the long convoy appeared to be driving. These forces could be positioned to attack or secure the airfield, to screen the convoy as it moves past, or both. Social media users report Russian tanks present in Makariv, a town on that ring road approximately 30 miles west of the center of Kyiv.[5] The presence of Russian mechanized forces at Makariv suggests that the Russians intend to conduct a relatively deep envelopment of Kyiv, possibly following roads south as far as Fastiv before turning east, although they could choose avenues of approach to the capital further east. A reported Russian airstrike in Fastiv District could support this assessment, although the airstrike was more likely aimed at an ammunition depot in that district.[6] An envelopment or encirclement so far from central Kyiv would require considerable Russian combat power to complete and to maintain against Ukrainian counterattacks. ISW is unable to assess whether Russia has concentrated enough combat power north of Kyiv to complete such an operation. Russian efforts within and in the immediate vicinity of Kyiv have reportedly relied on saboteurs and reconnaissance elements, often out of uniform or wearing Ukrainian uniforms, rather than on attacks by regular combat forces.[7] Subordinate Supporting Effort #1—Chernihiv Axis Russian forces have conducted rocket and missile attacks in the Chernihiv region and appear to be concentrating forces in Belarus for a renewed attack on the city. Chernihiv is an important road junction on the Desna River, and Russian forces may be focusing on capturing rather than bypassing it to open up the arterial highway leading southwest toward Kyiv on the east bank of the Desna. They did not make much progress in the last 24 hours on this axis but appear to be concentrating reinforcements for renewed efforts in the next 24-48 hours. A column of Russian combat vehicles reportedly moved east from the Chernihiv group of forces toward Bobrovytsya (roughly 65 kilometers northeast of Kyiv) on March 1.[8] This movement is likely an effort to link up with Russian forces from the Sumy axis whose advance had stalled around Nizhyn (roughly 115 kilometers east of Kyiv) as of March 1. Russian Iskander missiles reportedly hit the Ukrainian Operational Command North Headquarters and destroyed Ukrainian forces and fuel storage in the Chernihiv Oblast on February 28.[9] The Ukrainian General Staff also reported that Russian troops fired rockets at Chernihiv City on March 1 after failing to take it.[10] Ukrainian Territorial Defense authorities claimed on March 1 that Belarusian combat troops have entered Chernihiv Oblast in support of the Russian offensive.[11] Russian forces are continuing to concentrate in Belarus likely to support renewed operations along both the Chernihiv and western Kyiv axes. Satellite imagery showed at least 63 Russian helicopters at the V. D. Bolshoy Bokov Airfield near Mazyr in Gomel Oblast, Belarus, on February 28.[12] The helicopters appeared to be a mix of attack and transport craft that might be used either to conduct air assault operations or to provide rapid resupply of forward units, as well as direct air attack against Ukrainian positions.[13] Numerous social media reports indicate Russian fixed- and rotary-wing air operations at many locations throughout Belarus, including near Minsk, Baranovichi, Gomel, and Grodno.[14] Subordinate Supporting Effort #2—Sumy Axis (approximately 115 kilometers from Kyiv) Russian forces on the Sumy axis appear to have concentrated on reducing pockets of Ukrainian resistance in the last 24 hours. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian troops have encircled Sumy, Lebedyn, and Okhtyrka and have been shelling Okhtyrka heavily.[15] Russian forces do not appear to have made much forward progress on this axis in the last 24 hours. Supporting Effort #1—Kharkiv: Russian forces remain unable to seize the city and have apparently concentrated on an air, missile, and artillery bombardment likely intended in part to enable a subsequent renewed ground offensive. Russian forces have used bombers, tube artillery, multiple-launch rocket systems (MLRS), and reportedly thermobaric weapons against Kharkiv.[16] Russian ground forces remain positioned near the city and may commence renewed offensive operations within the next 24-72 hours. The Russian air, artillery, and missile barrage may also be intended to generate panic and reduce the morale of Ukrainian defenders in Kharkiv and elsewhere. It is unlikely to achieve that effect. It is too early to evaluate the likelihood that a renewed Russian ground offensive will succeed in taking the city. Supporting Effort #2—Mariupol: Russian forces claim to have completed the encirclement of Mariupol by land and sea on March 1.[17] The Ukrainian General Staff reported that elements of Russia’s 8th Combined Arms Army and proxy forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic tried and failed to take Mariupol on March 1.[18] Multiple sources report heavy fighting around the city, but ISW has been unable to verify Russian claims of having encircled it nor identify the forward trace of Russian and proxy positions near it.[19] ISW assesses with low confidence that Russian forces have completed the encirclement of Mariupol and will seek to compel the Ukrainian defenders to surrender or attack to seize it within the coming 24 hours. Supporting Effort #3—Kherson and West: Russian forces have likely secured control of Kherson city and are consolidating there before continuing their advance to the west. Multiple sources reported elements likely of the 7th Airborne Division and SPETSNAZ units throughout Kherson City on March 1, and Ukrainian forces will likely lose control of the city within the next 24-48 hours.[20] https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-1 |
Fate_Saber88Mar 2, 2022 7:47 AM
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| Chechen assassins 'eliminated'. https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/ukraine-claims-it-e2-80-98killed-chechen-assassins-plotting-to-murder-president-zelensky-e2-80-99/ar-AAUvbNW?ocid=uxbndlbing It appears they got separated in Kyiv and an airport where their General got Soleimani'd. |
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Soverign said: I guess these Prada combat boots did not really intimidate anyone after all.Chechen assassins 'eliminated'. https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/ukraine-claims-it-e2-80-98killed-chechen-assassins-plotting-to-murder-president-zelensky-e2-80-99/ar-AAUvbNW?ocid=uxbndlbing It appears they got separated in Kyiv and an airport where their General got Soleimani'd.  |
''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.'' |
Tannhauser said: Sorry for replying too late, I had a power outage and the internet connection is very bad..@Rachiba Injustice? Imagine yourself a russian-speaking Ukrainian for a second. - In 2004's elections you vote for Viktor Yanukovych. He WINS, but the other side isn't satisfied and forces an unconstitutional re-run which leads to his defeat. - New president, who is the result of what I've said above, starts forceful Ukrainization, your right to get education in your native language gets denied even though you are the absolute MAJORITY in the region you live in. - After 6 years, in another election, you manage to vote Yanukovych into office, but a few years later he gets overthrown. - New government, which came after the insurrection, doubles down on Ukrainization and anti-russian propaganda. The relations between two people and their countries are purposefully worsened. - At one point the government even started to outlaw speaking Russian in the workplace. - The above is the reason Crimea and Eastern part of the country wanted off Ukraine. Where is justice here? And also: protesters, who wanted Ukraine to have a chance to get out of the crisis with a bloc like the EU Quality of life after the 2014 insurrection DECREASED a lot. The new government did NOTHING to improve the quality of life and actually did all in its power to destroy what was left of its public sector. The only good thing that came afterwards was the ability for Ukrainians to work in Europe, but what's the point of it when you can't earn in your country? Why should we work for somebody else and do jobs which these foreigners are too good to work at? We would already be touching on a separate topic to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict (Although it is one of the causes of the crisis in your country) which would be the Economy and Internal Politics of Ukraine. The problem with a country like Ukraine is that you have a range of corrupt politicians, oligarchs and nationalists of both languages (and I'm talking about Ukrainian speakers and Russian speakers) because there was no point in banning one of the two languages that was already spoken and they could coexist with the other in harmony; Nor did it make sense to advocate separatism because your country wanted to have free trade with other blocs outside the dependency of a large country. |
RachibaMar 2, 2022 2:49 PM
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deg said: I don't think so, they didn't expect much resistance in 15 days Putin should be safe walking in Maidan square. To make it worse, Ukraine had a significant amount of precipitation today which makes the terrain muddy and leaves the main roads as the only option for armored vehicles, this event is known as Raputitsa.Russian battle plans captured, likely from one of the command vehicles captured. Battle plans were approved on January 18th and called for a 15 day war to take over Ukraine https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1499040883865391107 is that 15 day war plan still on track i wonder |
''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.'' |
deg said: Yes the Northeastern front is almost a lost cause, Turkish dornes destroying supplies and artillery day in day out, Some Russians resorted to looting.Fate_Saber88 said: I don't think so, they didn't expect much resistance in 15 days Putin should be safe walking in Maidan square. To make it worse, Ukraine had a significant amount of precipitation today which makes the terrain muddy and leaves the main roads as the only option for armored vehicles, this event is known as Raputitsa. and earlier replies and updates shows a lot of Russian soldiers and convoy are leaving too because of lack of food and gas As I expected the Ukrainians would offer little resistance on the open and Invite the Russians to Urban warfare but in no way they could predict that they would still have the luxury to afford air strikes and the Ukranian Air Force still exist, it's just limited. The Russians created a desperate salient around Sumy in order to march towards Kiyv's western flank but they already suffer from lack of fuel and disrupted supply lines, the Ukrainian special forces work in mobile commandos and disrupt these supplies. In the south things have been going a little bit behind schedule but they still need to take Mauripol (a matter of time IMHO) and the Russians still need to solidify their foothold west of the Dnieper. It was expected as well because the southern front is a tankland with little Urban areas, but the Russians still need a victory on a major urban area, Kherson or Mariupol might be the first, also they need to step on the gas(if they have fuel ofc) because of the western resupply. |
Fate_Saber88Mar 2, 2022 2:01 PM
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| On March 2, at 20:03, a MiG-21 LanceR Romanian Air Force from the 86th Air Base, carrying out an air patrol mission over Dobrogea, disappeared from the radar. The aircraft had taken off from Mihail Kogălniceanu Air Base 57 at 19:50. The state of the pilot & aircraft unknown. Romanian media reporting that a Romanian MiG-21 disappeared off radar & the IAR 330 that was sent out to search for the missing MiG-21 also disappeared from radar https://twitter.com/air_intel/status/1499116212604882948 Romania is a NATO country, which could mean a possible NATO involvement and possibly WW3? update:Romanian MoD reported the IAR 330 went down 11km fro the airfield. The MiG-21 pilot had reported bad weather & received orders to return to base |
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Tannhauser said: Silverstorm said: I think one example of ex-Soviet states asking to be their own countries is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum People didn't want Soviet Union dissolving in the first place. 1991 Soviet Union referendum. Most people wanted to preserve it as is. Not to mention, collapse of the Soviet Union led to a decade of poverty in 90s. Interestingly, though, even though this democratic will of people wasn't respected, the western world celebrated the fall of the USSR. 1) To answer what you put in your post directly Most people wanted to preserve it as is. According to everyone else and the Link you provided as "counter-evidence", this is false. Your link points out plainly within the question posed by the referendum text, the Union would not remain as it was "Do you consider necessary the preservation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics in which the rights and freedom of an individual of any ethnicity will be fully guaranteed?" Within the same link it goes on to say that because of the August coup, this renewed federation never formed and so the Soviet Union dissolved as a result. On the topic of Ukraine in this, your link also shows that Ukraine had already signaled it's want for independence In Ukraine, voters were also asked "Do you agree that Ukraine should be part of a Union of Soviet sovereign states on the basis on the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine?" -- a declaration which states Ukrainian laws will supersede USSR law. Your link goes on to say The proposal was approved by 81.7% of voters. Ukraine later held its own referendum on 1 December, in which 92% voted for independence. And At the same day a referendum in the Galician provinces Ivano-Frankivsk, Lviv, and Ternopil asked the three regions of the USSR about the creation of independent state of Ukraine. 88% of the voters in this referendum supported Ukraine's independence. This information is from your link, which also coincidentally connected to the link I provided earlier. 2) The people didn't have much choice, it was dissolving one way or another tbh. The Soviet system transformed Russia into an industrial power in record pace but it did so inefficiently. The state socialism and central economic planning implemented were missing the incentives of a market economy, leading most of its enterprises to gather/hoard raw materials while employing too many workers. Worse, without those market incentives, many of the already greedy enterprises didn't develop new products; only military and space technology progressed. This forced the economy to fall behind capitalistic ones (not implying capitalistic ones are better), forcing members in the Soviet bloc to live in lower standards of living. The biggest stab to the heart was the invasion of Afghanistan in 79'-- costing vast amounts of money and sabotaged popular support of the government. By the time someone came along (Gorbachev) to try to salvage it with internal reforms it was too late. The effort exposed the unchanging nature of their institutions and authoritarian controls. The Soviet Union's downfall was the result of its own internal economic weakness and authoritarian tactics; its members either wanted out or for the "Union" to change. Gorbachev's attempt to utilize a lighter approach to counteract those authoritarian controls (until reforms) encouraged the "Velvet Revolutions", yet scared military leaders who attempted the August coup, showcasing the unchanging repressive controls and ending the reforms. Its members wanted out. The "West"/US played a pivotal external role, but it was secondary at best. Yes, there was a decade of poverty in the 90s for former Soviet states due to the inefficiency (and distance from Western markets)their former "Union" left them in. The democratic will of the people was followed through with. And of course, many were happy the 4 decade long standoff between two military superpowers was over, and a great pressure on the world's shoulders was momentarily lifted. |
SilverstormMar 2, 2022 2:25 PM
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| Confirming NBC: The US has delivered hundreds of Stinger anti-aircraft missiles to Ukraine for the first time over the last few days, including over 200 on Monday, according to a US official and a congressional source briefed on the matter. https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1499139497874894848 To make it worse for Russia, Ukraine took back the city of Makariv, controlling the access by road in Kiyv so they can easily allow these supplies into the city. US sent hundreds of stinger missiles to Ukraine, including 200 on Monday: Reports Read more At: https://www.aninews.in/news/world/us/us-sent-hundreds-of-stinger-missiles-to-ukraine-including-200-on-monday-reports20220303043733/ |
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Fate_Saber88 said: To make it worse, Ukraine had a significant amount of precipitation today which makes the terrain muddy and leaves the main roads as the only option for armored vehicles, this event is known as Raputitsa. I'm not a military expert, but why did they choose this time of the year to invade? The snow also begins to melt. It is a terrible time to move thousands of heavy armored vehicles. Reports say that China begged them to delay the invasion until the end of the winter Olympics after the US had apparently shared intelligence with them about the invasion. (That latter did happen, unfortunately.) On a side note, can someone help me identify the type of weapon being used here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdHY3yYkBA |
149597871Mar 2, 2022 8:35 PM
149597871 said: I'm not a military expert, but why did they choose this time of the year to invade? The snow also begins to melt. It is a terrible time to move thousands of heavy armored vehicles. For some reason they always invade around the time of the Winter/Summer Olympics, they did it in 2008 with Georgia, 2014 in Crimea, and now. |
149597871 said: Like you said, China delayed this, because that would take the winter Olympics spotlight (which wasn't anything spectacular to say the least), Also February 24 is the Russian day of Remembrance, so that's another reason but they should've invaded in late January or early February still their logistics would suck. Fate_Saber88 said: To make it worse, Ukraine had a significant amount of precipitation today which makes the terrain muddy and leaves the main roads as the only option for armored vehicles, this event is known as Raputitsa. I'm not a military expert, but why did they choose this time of the year to invade? The snow also begins to melt. It is a terrible time to move thousands of heavy armored vehicles. Reports say that China begged them to delay the invasion until the end of the winter Olympics after the US had apparently shared intelligence with them about the invasion. (That latter did happen, unfortunately.) On a side note, can someone help me identify the type of weapon being used here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdHY3yYkBA On a side note, can someone help me identify the type of weapon being used here? Thermobaric probably a FOAB 44 tons o TNT and the blast radius is 300 meters wide so definitely a FOAB.Edit: It's thermobaric Edit 2: I just checked and that might have hit an ordinance depot so not sure what it is but I went through all possibilities. |
Fate_Saber88Mar 2, 2022 10:07 PM
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| @Fate_Saber88 Definitely FOAB. MOAB detonated underground in some tunnels. https://www.rt.com/news/384869-moab-death-toll-rise/ |
SoverignMar 2, 2022 10:47 PM
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