What's wrong with fanservice?

gurochanuser said:

you know you’re gonna get mad when you see it yet you continue to watch it, how does that make sense?

Tannhauser said:

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if people stressing over non-issues like fan-service in anime would get bald. It's not healthy to obsess over something one passionately dislikes.

CyborgSaber said:


It really doesn't matter if they are drawings yes but it's the context of the content. People especially younger people are influenced by what they see. Granted it a rare case but there is that one person that will be influenced by this. Characters age do 100% matter so you would not have a problem if they where like 5? As long as they drawings right?

I also never understood the ignore it or stop watching so some people aren't allowed to have a problems with something. I'm sure that no one has never complained about anything in their life including you.

That's why people drop something but they also have every right to voice their opinions on the matter. That's called an opinion for a reason.

Some defenders of this topic make no sense.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
And deg does. He pretends to but in other threads says it would be better if they changed it.

Sarqux said:
Tasteless fanservice just puts me off, especially in the cases where it's completely unnecessary and/or the character looks super young... I'm not here for the sexualization of little girls. I'd much rather watch shows without a weird panty shot every 5 minutes, thanks.

Yudesei said:
I don't hate fanservice. I just don't care about it.
The only times I dislike fanservice are when authors/directors prioritize fanservice over the story and the characters in it, and when the so-called "fanservice" is an actual crime (sexual harassment/assault).

Anxious_penguin said:
People are just Stop being horny And reading Berserk

Tannhauser said:
Not to sound rude, but fan-service has been a part of the industry and its culture for half a century, so if it's not to your liking you can find something suitable to your tastes elsewhere. It's like going to sushi restaurant to complain about the lack of burgers and potato chips.

Tannhauser said:
Do you mind if I ask you how you feel about murder, breaking the speed limits, burglary, etc. when it happens in anime? Do you also dislike depiction of such crimes?

dadnaya said:
IMO It's just an elitist mindset.

Fanservice=cheap entertainment

Therefore

People who like cheap entertainment (fanservice )= are of small minds

I'm a smart and intellectual person, therefore I cannot like cheap entertainment (fanservice)



Is probably their train of thought

Yudesei said:

Are you seriously questioning why a person would be uncomfortable about seeing sexual assault being romanticized? Wow, okay. [...] I'm actually stunned that someone would even question this. Wow.

inim said:
Not "we" are "feeding" them. They mutually feed each other, birds of a feather. Children under 18 who aren't fully able to cope with hard porn are usually protected by their parents, but those more often than not fail at it. From many court rulings in democracies it's clear that freedom of expression trumps almost all other rights. It's the First Amendment for a reason.

In Germany we use a more subtle system to control difficult media, and that's strict advertising and sales regulation. There are hardly any full bans (called confiscation cases) for media here, only very extreme forms of realistic sexualized violence qualify. Cartoons never qualify, i.e. Legend of the Overfiend was not good enough for that type of ban. What we do instead is to put questionable titles on a list of media which must not be advertised in places children have access too, e.g. Amazon can't list them.

This leads to a situation where small, specialized media distributors with strict age control are free to sell any media on that "b-list" to any adult on request. They also can have adult login only distribution sites. This way both the rights of minorities with strongly deviant taste and the protection of children are accomplished. Win-Win. Outright bans to "protect the children and society" is a slippery slope abused too often in history. Germany with our Nazi past avoids to ever again burn books and other media. One "Entartete Kunst" incident every 100 years is enough.

Yudesei said:

Are you seriously questioning why a person would be uncomfortable about seeing sexual assault being romanticized? Wow, okay.
As for your question; what do any of those have anything to do with this topic? The topic asks for fanservice, and I responded that I dislike when sexual harassment and assault are romanticized for "fanservice".
I'm actually stunned that someone would even question this. Wow.

TheFireNinja said:


It's fine to not like fanservice. But a lot of these people are pretty annoying about frequently bringing up discussions about why they dislike fanservice and questioning other people for liking it. I would respect their opinions more if some of them heard each side of the argument rather than dividing people with their views. And often times they don't seek discussion rather than calling out to people who support their opinions. It's true that there are other groups in the anime community that could be more mature. But comparing which group is the most problematic doesn't really excuse or negate faults rather than cherry-picking which people you're willing to ignore.

monsta666 said:


Is there any actual link to the two because I can't see any. If you don't like such content then don't watch it. The characters are not real so issues of lack of consent are not applicable.

work1ngondying said:


what do you mean by "being horny and reading berserk"

Reshiram_IX said:
I get what you’re saying, but most of the time these shows are intended for younger audiences who fit the demographic of said fictional character. Even then if you’re argument is that it could influence younger viewers than couldn’t you make that same argument for violence, murder, rape, drugs, child abuse, and any other detestable act depicted in fiction?

deg said:


"the future will take care of itself" - Ishtar

again sexual anime is a guilty pleasure of mine, i know its not considered good by the majority which are the normies and like it or not more normies will be a fan of anime

Nechron said:


What do we feed them, then? The problem isn't that they get an outlet for their desires. It's the good part. The people themselves won't ever be gone, so this is about the best we can do for them. And for society as a whole.

Also, the number of people in anime fanbases that actually like irl children are just a fraction of the entire community, and the ones that act on those desires number even less, and having fantasies helps them. At least I haven't come across anyone claiming to like children or seeing the backlash they would experience. Aren't youtubers completely unrelated to anime likelier to end up like that? Should we ban all youtubers, then, or what do you suggest? Because the problem is more prominent there than it is here.

Also, there was the whole craze about people marking the times where a 'good' shot of a child was in an otherwise harmless youtube video. Do we ban those, too? Just ban everything that is related to children? Where do we draw the line?

It's a problem, but not something that is 'fed' by fanservice. It's what can keep it from becoming something worse.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:


Majority?
Yeah soyjaks aren't a Majority.

Those threads you see complaining about it by the freaks I talk about all the time are not the minority lmfao. You living in a fantasy land dude.

Also the people you talk about are American/uk.

work1ngondying said:
hey ladies and gentlemen im going to talk about fanservice why are there suddenly so many fanservice topics being created i dont really care about fanservice that much but the people who start making topics about that is at least younger than 13 i guess nowadays people cant handle seeing a women's chest the same people complaining have never been in the vicinity of a women and yes i know sometimes fanservice can go overboard but just grow the fuck up

work1ngondying said:
i guess nowadays people cant handle seeing a women's chest the same people complaining have never been in the vicinity of a women

Kenzolo-folk said:
oh no please murder me, im such a pus because i dont like fanservice that involves prepubescent children

Kenzolo-folk said:
oh no please murder me, im such a pus because i dont like fanservice that involves prepubescent children

work1ngondying said:




if you use your mind for a second you would realize japan's age of consent is 13 so why do you think they aim ecchi shows towards highschool girls

Howdym8 said:
Must be a generation thing. People born 2000 and upward grew up differently and were taught to be attracted to men and 100 other different genders so this explains why they feel jealous that they only get to look at perfect female specimen.