WutIsDis said: GreyIllusion said: 'A few government restrictions'? Forcing you to pay fees and possibly go to jail if you don't vaccinate is not a small restriction, it's violation of human rights. And this is in the time of emergency when we have to stop the pandemic as soon as possible to prevent further deaths. Even if it violates rights, there are still things that need to be done for the greater good. How do you stop a virus that has been around since before the dinosaurs? 🦖 |
| It goes both ways. Not being vaccinated if you are going out around people without precautions for others you are violating their basic human rights by infecting them against their consent. |
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traed said: It goes both ways. Not being vaccinated if you are going out around people without precautions for others you are violating their basic human rights by infecting them against their consent. Or they could get vaccinated themselves and don't have to worry. If someone else is cold and freezing, I'm not wearing a jacket for them, they have to wear a jacket. If they don't want the Rona, they must get vaccinated, not me. Is logic that hard to process? |
traed said: It goes both ways. Not being vaccinated if you are going out around people without precautions for others you are violating their basic human rights by infecting them against their consent. Healthy people don't infect each other. That's called spontaneous generation, and it was disproven centuries ago. |
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Lucifrost said: traed said: It goes both ways. Not being vaccinated if you are going out around people without precautions for others you are violating their basic human rights by infecting them against their consent. Healthy people don't infect each other. That's called spontaneous generation, and it was disproven centuries ago. We are talking about a virus that can be spread through asymptomatic means. Even if a healthy person contracts Covid this virus can still mutate and it can still keep spreading to others without them feeling or showing signs of symptoms. This is exactly the reason why a vaccine is created to try to stop it from spreading. So if you do contract it even without showing signs of symptoms the probability of you spreading it to others is dramatically reduced. |
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| It might be your right, but people in turn have the right to tell you to screw off...If you're going to make the choice to not get vaccinated, you need to be prepared for the consequences that come with it. Anything else just makes you sound like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. I mean, you're basically complaining that people are trying to keep both you and others around you from dying... |
FanofActionDec 3, 2021 3:08 PM
ColourWheel said: We are talking about a virus that can be spread through asymptomatic means. Even if a healthy person contracts Covid this virus can still mutate and it can still keep spreading to others without them feeling or showing signs of symptoms. That doesn't sound like a very dangerous virus you're describing. |
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Lucifrost said: ColourWheel said: We are talking about a virus that can be spread through asymptomatic means. Even if a healthy person contracts Covid this virus can still mutate and it can still keep spreading to others without them feeling or showing signs of symptoms. That doesn't sound like a very dangerous virus you're describing. It might not sound dangerous yet over 5million people have died from this virus in an extremely short time period. One can only imagine what the world would look like today if there was never a vaccine ever produced. |
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ColourWheel said: It might not sound dangerous yet over 5million people have died from this virus in an extremely short time period. One can only imagine what the world would look like today if there was never a vaccine ever produced. How did it kill 5,000,000 people if it's asymptomatic? |
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FanofAction said: It might be your right, but people in turn have the right to tell you to screw off...If you're going to make the choice to not get vaccinated, you need to be prepared for the consequences that come with it. Anything else just makes you sound like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. I mean, you're basically complaining that people are trying to keep both you and others around you from dying... Govs have used many similar excuses to do atrocities |
Lucifrost said: ColourWheel said: It might not sound dangerous yet over 5million people have died from this virus in an extremely short time period. One can only imagine what the world would look like today if there was never a vaccine ever produced. How did it kill 5,000,000 people if it's asymptomatic? You do realize that this virus is also systematic too. It's odd one would have to point this out. |
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| @Dije I can't help but notice that chart doesn't point out the risk of death from covid. It says "proven benefits vastly outweigh the really rare risks," without explaining what those benefits are. That missing information should be the most important part of any medical decision. |
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Feircei said: FanofAction said: It might be your right, but people in turn have the right to tell you to screw off...If you're going to make the choice to not get vaccinated, you need to be prepared for the consequences that come with it. Anything else just makes you sound like a spoiled child throwing a tantrum. I mean, you're basically complaining that people are trying to keep both you and others around you from dying... Govs have used many similar excuses to do atrocities Maybe, but that doesn't mean its happening this time as well. As far as I'm concerned, people are just hiding behind their paranoia as an excuse. |
| I like reading threads like this, even though they typically devolve into bickering, because it does show you what people are thinking. I wish there was a way for people to come to an understanding with people they disagree with, but I guess that's as easy as trying to solve world peace, huh? Still, being so polarized isn't very healthy. Better to hear your enemies out, in my opinion. In my opinion, yes, we should have rules across the board or we shouldn't. We shouldn't get to pick and choose. This is not the bubonic plague. There's no reason why people shouldn't be able to make their own choices for their own health. Especially, since there are people who are unable to take the vaccines due to health risks, etc. making vaccines "mandatory" is dangerous. I think this has gotten to a point where it has been so blown out of proportion and politicized that there is no longer an easy solution to any of it. Until people start listening to both sides, and not treating each other like the enemy, or like they are an out-right idiot just for disagreeing about something, anyway. |
Dije said: FanofAction said: Maybe, but that doesn't mean its happening this time as well. As far as I'm concerned, people are just hiding behind their paranoia as an excuse. Explain this: 1) https://www.timesofisrael.com/study-covid-recovery-gave-israelis-longer-lasting-delta-defense-than-vaccines/ 2) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/29/health/vaccination-covid.html Yeah, no...I'm not reading those, because chances are they're heavily skewed towards one direction.... |
FanofActionDec 3, 2021 4:41 PM
| @paintpixie I don't understand why organizations that should be nonpartisan have been politicized. During the swine flu pandemic, the American Civil Liberties Union said not to give up liberties during an emergency. That's their 1 job, yet they're unbothered by the potential loss of liberty during today's pandemic. |
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| Well I am against Mandates for the same reason why I am pro choice. And the reason is that in my opinion, Governments should not decide about Medical procedures and say what is allowed. |
Bourmegar said: Well I am against Mandates for the same reason why I am pro choice. And the reason is that in my opinion, Governments should not decide about Medical procedures and say what is allowed. It's totally fine to be pro choice but to start equating a vaccination to an actual medical procedure is a bit far of a stretch. |
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ColourWheel said: Bourmegar said: Well I am against Mandates for the same reason why I am pro choice. And the reason is that in my opinion, Governments should not decide about Medical procedures and say what is allowed. It's totally fine to be pro choice but to start equating a vaccination to an actual medical procedure is a bit far of a stretch. It may be but in the end it also falls in the whole "I am the boss ogf my own Body" Boat although yeah Abortion is a more complicated area. |
Dije said: FanofAction said: Yeah, no...I'm not reading those because chances are they're heavily skewed towards one direction.... Both newspaper just repost studies. How can you say for sure that everything is clean if contradictions come out, and studies that contradict each other come out, almost every week? Does it seem normal to you? Humans are basically walking contridictions. Studies are always going to be flawed, because not every human reacts to things the same way. There's no avoiding that,which is why we have to work with what we get. Yes, some people might have a bad reaction to the vaccine,but that comes with the territory. That's how we make progress, through trial and error. |
| Alright, I'll give my considerations. Are mandatory vaccines a violation of human rights? Humans rights are a collective measure, you know. They include the individual sphere but are not limited to it. That's because human rights are an universal ideal. Rights are moral principles, not pragmatic political plans. It just doesn't work like that. Sacrificing a percentage of individual convenience to benefit a larger amount of individuals is elementary civilization. It's security VS freedom as deg mentioned, and this is circunstancial. Therefore, collective measures, specially these preventive measures in delicate situations, aren't really a violation of human rights, but rather, they are a natural result of them. Who presents a greater threat to human rights? There are a few "healthy" people not taking the vaccine and complementary safety measures in the pandemic, and this worsens the situation for many others for reasons that have been exhausted in this thread. The chance of dying because of the vaccine is far lesser than the chance of dying from the virus. By your own logic, if you're so "healthy and immune" to the virus,you shouldn't be threatened by the vaccine. In that case, the threat that governmental action poses to the rights of these individuals is lesser than the threat that these individuals' actions pose to the rights of all others. It's not really a reasonable comparison. Of course, jailing people because of it seems extreme, and I would rather not have that happening. However, the pandemic is an extreme situation with exponential deaths, so political chaos is inherent to it. There is probably more room to discuss this and propose different actions from the authorities, but I'll leave it at that. Regarding healthy individuals First of all, you cannot reasonably expect people to precisely tell if they belong to this virtual "fittest" group of "ideal survivors". People don't have that sort of medical knowledge. How in the world would you predict your reaction to a virus without ever being infected by said virus? Lastly, "healthy" and "unhealthy" is not a binary relation. There's a multitude of factors that influence individual health, and while you might not die of a deadly infection, you might end up dying to another, less harmful one. Let's also not forget that no one is immune to the virus until they contract it and produce antibodies, and even then, they're not immune to variants. The longer a virus stays around, infecting people and mutating, the more chances it has to become deadlier. How long can you stay "healthy and immune" if you don't take simple health measures to protect yourself and others? |
| Yes, they do violate basic human rights, even just the pass: Article2 said: Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Article3 said: Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person. Article12 said: No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights They also go against the Nuremberg Code. I strongly reject this "experiment". If someone else wants to play Russian roulette by taking the jab every 6 months or less, they can go ahead. The biggest problem with this "crisis" is the manipulation and the willful helpers: governmental agencies reporting positive tests as "cases" even when they are just minor colds in the vast majority of cases, media repeating the numbers and continuing to count positive cases as "infected" whereas no one counted seasonal flu cases like that, people ending up believing that a bigger part of the "infected" are seriously sick through over-fixation on severe cases from the media and countless repetitions there, private hospitals falsely getting more money for keeping a higher load, for reducing beds and for having "Covid-19" patients that just have to be positively PCR-tested without having to have any major symptoms, and last but not least, everyone enforcing the rules and everyone accepting it as the "new normal" In this topic and in lots of other places, people not realizing that the health system has been on the upper limits even before it or had it even worse years ago. People not caring about looking up diagnostic codes to exclude irrelevant cases where there was only a minor or no respiratory disease diagnosed, just the possible existence of SARS-CoV-2 Also people not understanding basic immunology like how over-hygiene and panic are precisely the things weakening the immunity instead of just living life normally and focusing on hygiene with foods and drinks Also people thinking that masks do anything when they are far too large to actually stop viruses and have a negative effect physically and psychologically when worn for a longer time, not to speak that they aren't meant to be worn like that. It's also more likely to contaminate yourself or get other sicknesses when handling the masks improperly SARS-CoV-2 is becoming less pathogen. And the high mutation rate makes it even less stable It's the measures that have prolonged the whole situation and worsened it even with it becoming less pathogen. Particularly the quarantine and forced vaccine mandates are pushing people off, which means more workload for the remaining workers, which means, more stress for them, which means more people not wishing to deal with it any longer, which means less workers, which means more stress edit: oh and I forgot the geniuses who think immunity works only by producing anti-bodies and apparently never having heard of t-cells and common defenses like mucus in the nose. Also in this topic and elsewhere, people not being able to do a proper risk assessment, because the numbers are completely without any proper definition and because the vast majority of "covid cases" wouldn't even notice they had it if not for the senseless mass-testings |
NoboruDec 3, 2021 5:01 PM
Feircei said: traed said: It goes both ways. Not being vaccinated if you are going out around people without precautions for others you are violating their basic human rights by infecting them against their consent. Or they could get vaccinated themselves and don't have to worry. If someone else is cold and freezing, I'm not wearing a jacket for them, they have to wear a jacket. If they don't want the Rona, they must get vaccinated, not me. Is logic that hard to process? You still get infected even if you are vaccinated, at a reduced rate. To add on top of that, the unvaccinated becomes a vector for viral mutations. I don't see your logic. If people do not want to be vaccinated but do not want the restrictions set in place, if they gets infected, they shouldn't be able to be admitted to the hospital. It's their choice to get unvaccinated, they shouldn't be straining the health system of a country, and they should face the consequences of their decision. I would be willing to make that trade |
iasuruDec 3, 2021 5:33 PM
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| Honestly I understand older people getting the vaccine but I mean for anyone who isn't extremely high risk I don't see the necessity to because honestly if the virus isn't high risk to you, there shouldn't be a need to get the vaccine. |
| The freedom to reject this experimental genetic treatment (the so-called covid vaccine) and the freedom to murder a child from the womb are not in any way similar, because while the first one is a right, the second one is a very serious injustice. But leaving aside that obviousness, it is worth wondering, why the freedom to reject the so-called vaccines against the coronavirus is a right? Simple, because said freedom is not contrary to the common good: First, because we are not talking about real vaccines. And second, because there are good reasons to distrust them due to the effects that they can produce on our health in the short, medium and long term. If these experimental gene therapies really were vaccines, they would immunize against Covid 19 and it would prevent the inoculates from spreading the virus. If they were really safe, the responsibility for their possible adverse effects would be assumed by the companies that produce them, the States that acquire and distribute them, and the health workers that inoculate them. In any case, given that another thread similar to this one was arbitrarily blocked and much of its posts removed (including mine) I don't think a well-developed post on this topic is worth crafting, at least not on these shitty forums. |
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| I don't care. Anti-vaxxers and pro-vaxxers are the same shit with different face. |
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Feircei said: ColourWheel said: You might not be at risk but you still endanger others by potentially becoming a host to a virus that easily spreads to others without ever showing signs of symptoms. So someone with no side effects because his body is strong enough to take the virus, should put their own health at risk with a vaccine that has been literally proven to kill? https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2021.670370/full ^ this is no news article or anything, it's a literally scientific document. For what? to not infect others born with a weak immunitary system? So, it works like that: Weaklings have 1.89% chance to die of covid, you are immune and your chance of death is 0%, now you take the vaccine and it becomes 0.0053% Sounds ethical to force others to raise their chances of death from a dissease they are immune to? Advil kills people every year too, doesn't stop people from classifying it as safe for the general public. And you would prefer to put yourself at risk for Covid, which has killed more people in your age range than the vax, rather than get vaccinated because of the risk involved? xD |
| OP lost the argument when the Omicron Variant started fucking in the africa (which has, SHOCKINGLY, the least percentage of people vaccinated) but yeah, keep thinking tha vaccine fucks with us, gives autism, yadayadayada. I preffer being pummelled in the ground by a syringe than not vaccinating, not only that, this hive-mind mentality that vaccines are not good is one of the reasons covid's still around. SOURCE |
DigoligoDec 3, 2021 7:49 PM
| I believe so. People should have the choice. Then again, it's the people who voted for the people who want to make it mandatory. |
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| not getting vaccinated is a completely valid decision that one should have, considering that this is mostly about covid here is the thing, it has a whole thing about WHERE the vaccine is from, so my thinking is we should be able to choose what vaccine we also want to use. If you get a remedy you buy it and will get a paper telling you everything it does and what has on it, but we don't get the same with vaccines, why? It honestly feels like something that they're throwing down our throats and I can understand the sentiment of those against vaccines even if i'm not one of them. |
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JMyrickM said: Then again, it's the people who voted for the people who want to make it mandatory. Not even. Biden promised last year it wouldn’t be mandatory. |
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Feircei said: WutIsDis said: And this is in the time of emergency when we have to stop the pandemic as soon as possible to prevent further deaths. Even if it violates rights, there are still things that need to be done for the greater good. How do you stop a virus that has been around since before the dinosaurs? 🦖 Virtually every major disease affecting humans originated in the last 10,000 years. Probably due to the immense growth in population of humans in such a short time. |
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| I remember posting months ago about mandatory vaccines and passports on a current events thread (good riddance to that forum I say). Unfortunately, as I feared, mandatory vaccines and passports have spread like wildfire all over the world. These vaccines do not exist to promote 'health' and 'safety'. They are simply being pushed by bureaucratic doctors and politicians for profits. They do not care about your health. Get ready for your booster shot, I'm sure this one will save you! Also, what happened to the Nuremburg code? History can't be allowed to repeat itself. |
KaiserZz said: I remember posting months ago about mandatory vaccines and passports on a current events thread (good riddance to that forum I say). Unfortunately, as I feared, mandatory vaccines and passports have spread like wildfire all over the world. These vaccines do not exist to promote 'health' and 'safety'. They are simply being pushed by bureaucratic doctors and politicians for profits. They do not care about your health. Get ready for your booster shot, I'm sure this one will save you! Also, what happened to the Nuremburg code? History can't be allowed to repeat itself. You do realize you don't need to pay anything out of your own pocket to get a vaccinated for Covid, at least no where in the United states. So trying to make the argument about profits for doctors and politicians falls on deaf ears when the only thing you need to do is make an appointment to get one. If you are wanting to put some blame on having our taxpaying dollars flipping the bill for the vaccine you only need to look towards the administration that initially started funding it, which was when Trump was in office. So basically the American people have already paid for it. The main reason why we now need to get booster shots for Covid (which are free too) is because of too many people refusing to get vaccinated which is perpetually keeping this virus to mutate the longer it stays around. |
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Digoligo said: OP lost the argument when the Omicron Variant started fucking in the africa (which has, SHOCKINGLY, the least percentage of people vaccinated) but yeah, keep thinking tha vaccine fucks with us, gives autism, yadayadayada. I preffer being pummelled in the ground by a syringe than not vaccinating, not only that, this hive-mind mentality that vaccines are not good is one of the reasons covid's still around. SOURCE FAX! But sadly these Anti Vaxxers will probably ignore your comment just because you spoke the truth. |
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Deathko said: Average MALer: "SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST! LETS DROWN WEAKLINGS! ONLY THE BEST GENES ARE PASSED DOWN!" Also average MALer:  Shut up, Cleb. You don't even lift. Because you can't. Because all the gyms are closed... and because your arms are too small. I now understand why all of you are acting like sanctimonious moralists after getting the jab. Rolling up your sleeve and showing your skinny arm in front of people probably feels like an act of bravery for most of you. Because it is. Not for me though. The only reason I got vaccinated was that I got to flex in front of the nurse for a few seconds. She gave me her number afterward... or some number at least, I don't care. The point is, do not be so quick to judge people. About the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule Do not do other people's dirty work. Thank you for your understanding. And some of you also need to relax. :) |
ColourWheel said: KaiserZz said: I remember posting months ago about mandatory vaccines and passports on a current events thread (good riddance to that forum I say). Unfortunately, as I feared, mandatory vaccines and passports have spread like wildfire all over the world. These vaccines do not exist to promote 'health' and 'safety'. They are simply being pushed by bureaucratic doctors and politicians for profits. They do not care about your health. Get ready for your booster shot, I'm sure this one will save you! Also, what happened to the Nuremburg code? History can't be allowed to repeat itself. You do realize you don't need to pay anything out of your own pocket to get a vaccinated for Covid, at least no where in the United states. So trying to make the argument about profits for doctors and politicians falls on deaf ears when the only thing you need to do is make an appointment to get one. If you are wanting to put some blame on having our taxpaying dollars flipping the bill for the vaccine you only need to look towards the administration that initially started funding it, which was when Trump was in office. So basically the American people have already paid for it. The main reason why we now need to get booster shots for Covid (which are free too) is because of too many people refusing to get vaccinated which is perpetually keeping this virus to mutate the longer it stays around. Well, I wasn't talking about us paying. I was referring to all of the politicians, elites and companies (sure call me crazy all you want) making money off this 'vaccine'. Have you seen how much money Pfizer has been making off of this, let alone other companies? They'll never let this go. The more boosters, the better. Whether you want to believe me or not is up to you. From the daily case counts I see here in my country, it is pretty much 50/50 between vaccinated and unvaxxed. Also not to mention that the omicron variant seems to be quite popular amongst the vaccinated, at least from what I've seen. |
| A pregnant woman should never be allowed to kill her baby. She can't do it because the body of the baby is not her own body. It's preposterous to speak about the refusal to have one's body modified with a so called "vaccine" as if it were similar to the choice of murdering a human being. But yes, forcing people to have some artificial thing injected in their bodies is absolutely wrong. People who are arguing in favour of it are very stupid, to say the least. And politicians who are actively imposing such laws to force people to do it are very dangerous individuals. |
ColtBuntlineDec 3, 2021 11:42 PM
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
| Mildly hot take: all unvaxxed people without a medical condition that makes it so they can't be vaxxed should be refused service and left to their own devices in the event they contract covid and request medical assistance. |
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Scordolo said: Digoligo said: OP lost the argument when the Omicron Variant started fucking in the africa (which has, SHOCKINGLY, the least percentage of people vaccinated) but yeah, keep thinking tha vaccine fucks with us, gives autism, yadayadayada. I preffer being pummelled in the ground by a syringe than not vaccinating, not only that, this hive-mind mentality that vaccines are not good is one of the reasons covid's still around. SOURCE FAX! But sadly these Anti Vaxxers will probably ignore your comment just because you spoke the truth. Maybe people will respect your opinion more if you stop grouping anyone who disagrees with you in some kind of inferior alien. And if you stop making assumptions about people you don't even know. You know those are the basis of racism :) ? |
| Antivaxxers are the result of the horrid plague of mentality in the west which I would call as "ultra individualism". I guess I'll be glad to see how these ultra individualism will lead the imperialist countries to their own downfall while countries in the Global South will prosper because they're not being infected by such plague. |
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| Unless you go to jail for not taking the vaccine you still have a choice, but your choice doesn't mean you can that violate peoples safety when it comes to health, so you can't expect all services to be available to you, those are a privilege not a right. |
Feircei said: Scordolo said: FAX! But sadly these Anti Vaxxers will probably ignore your comment just because you spoke the truth. Maybe people will respect your opinion more if you stop grouping anyone who disagrees with you in some kind of inferior alien. And if you stop making assumptions about people you don't even know. You know those are the basis of racism :) ? I'm lost here. How is this racism? And I'll always see Anti Vaxxers as stupid beings. You won't change my mind on that. |
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