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jaw201 said: ArcueidBestGirl said: Remember when Higurashi was an actual mystery? This is the first time magic/the supernatural has been used to solve a mystery in the WTC series, which is extremely disappointing since I was really excited at the beginning anime where I could make human culprit theories and solve it within the first 3 arcs. Now that I know that the answer involves magic, I feel that I’ve wasted my time with this. 3/10 I hope that the next season will be much better. Higurashi was never a fucking pure mystery. If you were going into this expecting a mystery built upon Knox, then you have come to the wrong place. OG Higurashi broke all of Knox's rules, and hell Rika's looping power is already supernatural. The Hinamizawa Syndrome making the characters whose inner thoughts we see unreliable, and the lack of an objective narrator. You add Hanyuu's ability to deflect bullets with her god powers in Matsuri, then it's already over. Higurashi was always a supernatural mystery. Hell, you can't even solve Higurashi with only the question arcs (Onikakushi, Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, and Himatsubushi). Higurashi Gou's individual arcs can be solved as "Human" mysteries, with the allowance of H-173 and the existence of the Hinamizawa syndrome. In fact, it's dreadfully obvious the culprit for at least one of the arcs. There are "Human" Culprits for each arc, and the "mastermind" doesn't use "magic" when committing the crimes either. Of course Higurashi is not a fair mystery. It was never meant to be. But by Tatarigoroshi you could get the idea that Takano was up to something and definetely suspicious. The true nature of HS, even though not knowing the specifications, by the end of Tatri I knew for sure that Keichii was hallucinating. The staff room segements not present in the anime make thing more obvious. I think what hes trying to say is that this is the first time the supernatural was the core part of a mystery. Its hard to think of Satoko doing what she does without loop memory accumilation for the club and her own knowledge of Rikas previous loops. Hanyuu exists but her dodging bullets is not a part any mystery to begin with, so I dont see how that is a point? Heck the entirety of Matsuribiyashi is more of an epilogue-solution to the story rather than a mystery. |
ChargecoulombMar 22, 2021 8:03 AM
Chargecoulomb said: jaw201 said: Higurashi was never a fucking pure mystery. If you were going into this expecting a mystery built upon Knox, then you have come to the wrong place. OG Higurashi broke all of Knox's rules, and hell Rika's looping power is already supernatural. The Hinamizawa Syndrome making the characters whose inner thoughts we see unreliable, and the lack of an objective narrator. You add Hanyuu's ability to deflect bullets with her god powers in Matsuri, then it's already over. Higurashi was always a supernatural mystery. Hell, you can't even solve Higurashi with only the question arcs (Onikakushi, Watanagashi, Tatarigoroshi, and Himatsubushi). Higurashi Gou's individual arcs can be solved as "Human" mysteries, with the allowance of H-173 and the existence of the Hinamizawa syndrome. In fact, it's dreadfully obvious the culprit for at least one of the arcs. There are "Human" Culprits for each arc, and the "mastermind" doesn't use "magic" when committing the crimes either. Of course Higurashi is not a fair mystery. It was never meant to be. But by Tatarigoroshi you could get the idea that Takano was up to something and definetely suspicious. The true nature of HS, even though not knowing the specifications, by the end of Tatri I knew for sure that Keichii was hallucinating. The staff room segements not present in the anime make thing more obvious. I think what hes trying to say is that this is the first time the supernatural was the core part of a mystery. Its hard to think of Satoko doing what she does without loop memory accumilation for the club and her own knowledge of Rikas previous loops. Hanyuu exists but her dodging bullets is not a part any mystery to begin with, so I dont see how that is a point? Heck the entirety of Matsuribiyashi is more of an epilogue-solution to the story rather than a mystery. And last time anyone checked a detective mystery isnt defined by following Knox or Van Dine. Umineko makes it quite clear that you can have a great mystery without those rules. And like you said the supernatural were never part of the culprit's actions, AND if we want to say that having the supernatural play any part removes the mystery then Umineko is an even worse offender with it; Knox's 2nd: It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective technique. What makes that whole story even function to begin with? Witches and Demons. And even they cant guarantee that it follows any of the mystery rules that they are using. But like with Higurashi the supernatural were never part of the crime, didnt leave behind corpses and didnt scheme. Both howdunit and whodunit are supernatural in Gou, unlike with Umineko and OG Higurashi. And depending on how you look at it whydunit is also supernatural. |
jaw201 said: Except the loop memory accumulation was ALWAYS an integral part of why Rika figured out what was going on. There is no fucking difference between Rika looping enough times to figure out how to steal the vaccine from the clinic(Which she did in Watanagashi and Tsumiboroshi), and Satoko bruteforcing the keypad on the briefcase. At the end of the day, the individuals and tools used to commit the crimes are mundane, and therefore are not supernatural, just like in OG Higurashi. And to your point trying to rephrase his point, it doesn't matter, since his main complaint is invalid. The crimes can be solved in the lens of someone using Human means. The issue that you seem to be having is that you believe that Rika is fine to have supernatural memories, but the moment when the individual committing the crime gets that same ability, it's an issue? (Basically you don't like the culprit having the same abilities as Rika is what I am getting) The mystery is at least a fair playing field at this point, both the "detective" and the "culprit" have supernatural knowledge relating to Hinamizawa and both use that knowledge to their own advantage. Even still, if anyone else had the same access to the same tools that Satoko/Takano have, then literally anyone could perform the crimes, which means that all of the crimes are human viable and therefore no supernatural presences are involved in ANY of the crimes. Youve misunderstood what were discussing about. Its about persepective. More specifically ours as viewers. Takano is a constant villan. The mystery regarding her will remain the same regardless of whether Rika is a looper or not. Is it same for Satoko? Its true that she could have possibly manipulated her uncle without looping knowledge but for other situations like Mion, Rena and even Keichii its very very unlikely. By supernatural I mean actions that are done with the knowledge gained from loops or influenced by it. Which in the original only come into play in the answer arcs. Rikas status as a looper, hinted at strongly earlier only came into effect during Kai. The Rika in the question arcs we saw was passive. Remembering past worlds by non loopers only comes into effect in Mina, and thus is not a part of the originals mystery. For me it comes down to the fact that to do most of these things Satoko needs knowledge of past worlds, and we dont have answers yet but Ill haphazard a guess going on by what Keichii says when he goes L5 that past memories have something to do with every persons HS flare up. It would be weird if looper vs looper scenarios didnt have such things in the first place. A supernatural mystery could be amazing if done right. |
ChargecoulombMar 22, 2021 11:45 AM
| Watanabaes designs are good, but it feels a bit unnatural like the Mangagamer sprites to me Alchemist character designs are the best for me. Still retaining elements of Ryuukishis design while adding their own polish. Meis sprites feel a bit meh too, but this is all subjective anyway. |
jaw201 said: Seems he didn't like how Satoko didn't get spotlight/growth in Tatari/minagoroshi like Rena and Shion did in their respective arcs. In other words, R07 believes that Satoko was underdeveloped in the original series. This makes a lot of sense, especially given that recent whole episodes were spent developing and humanizing Teppei (who we only knew as the generic angry Uncle ) and Takano. By the way, do you know if the translation you're using is from a human translator? Or is it google? |
| Well she is committed to being a villian. God damn this girl is using the loops better than Rika. She is using it to manipulate people into making better choices. Satoko is an evil lesbian. She wants her waifu. |
| I got a Masters degree. I don't have to worry bout school anymore. |
ohhh so now shit makes sense, I had no idea about that and I didn't want to rewatch all of it |
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| Wow they redo the scene from Higurashi Kai... I love it ... Here we go Satoko and her evil plan... Waiting for the answer on Higurashi SOTSU. If you are newcomers, definitely should go back and watch the OG for more understanding... Overall Good Sequel for Higurashi (Definitely not a Remake) 7/10 |
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MasterHavik said: Well she is committed to being a villian. God damn this girl is using the loops better than Rika. She is using it to manipulate people into making better choices. Satoko is an evil lesbian. She wants her waifu. Better? She has god mode turned on. |
Gotcha. Is there a way for me to see this DeepL translation? Because when I click on the link, the only option I have is viewing the article in google-translated English. |
jTiKey said: he has game genie and gameshark on. She doesn't give a fuck. IT's wild that the more you loop, the past loops become bad dreams for others around you. This could either help them be better or mentally break them. I think Satoko is gonna get to a point her friends won't be her friends anymore if her goal is to make her home the best place on earth if she thinks Rika wanting to leave the murder pit that is Hinawazwa then fuck her. MasterHavik said: Well she is committed to being a villian. God damn this girl is using the loops better than Rika. She is using it to manipulate people into making better choices. Satoko is an evil lesbian. She wants her waifu. Better? She has god mode turned on. |
| I got a Masters degree. I don't have to worry bout school anymore. |
| It had some ups and downs in direction. For example, the horror scenes in the first half were kind sloppy and were more looking to "shock" rather than anything else. I believe the OG did a better work on that item (yes, scene with nails removal, I'm looking at you). Things changed when Rika's arc started, at least in the horror aspects. I think the second half redeemed itself and pointed out why we went through some of the "question" arcs at the beginning (specially those referring to Satoko). We had enough material to know that things were not going to happen as we thought, and some background in where Satoko "came from". We also got some Takano development, proving that somehow even herself can be "redeemed" under certain circumstances, so to me it is a declaration from Ryukishi that Satoko might to do the same in the future. I was scared we were supposed to wrap everything up in 23 minutes, so I appreciate we will have a continuation, as it feels to me there is more to tell. Also, as an Umineko VN reader I loved the Umineko subtle and direct references. This season could be easily called 'Lambdadelta and Bernkastel - The Early Years" and I would be ok with it. So... about the "answer" awaiting for us in the next season, just some thoughts: >I believe (in what you saiiid~~~) the main points that were covered but subtly left behind were Satoshi, Shion and Uncle Hojo. >Also, Keiichi, who saved Rika on his own way at some point during OG was kind of background'd, so probably he has some role to play later on. >It looks to me some of the learning Takano went through should also somehow affect Satoko's decisions >>The key to unravel this chaos lies somewhere in between those characters, in my opinion. >Who is Eua (Featherine, Auroroa, or whatever you wanna call her)? I mean, who would she represent in the Higurashi setting? Would it be reasonable to compare her to Nomura-san maybe? |
 » Escapism. |
| Completely unrelated topic but I played through ep 6 Umineko again. Lambda basically changed the entire game to fit in with Bern and Erika. If Battler had a objective persepective the entire things trick would collapse in on itself. I wonder what the game would have been if Bern and Erika hadnt stepped in in place of Battler. Speaking of Umineko. Gou is teasing us with the Satoko is Lambda thing. Its unlikely but if she does end up being Lambda it makes her brief confrontation with Euarine in twilight a little funny? |
ChargecoulombMar 25, 2021 10:14 AM
| I’m glad it ended. Now I can just go pretending it never existed in the first place. |
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| Satoko you are freaking insane....you need to be stopped. |
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| Wish someone trapped me in a loop like dat, now that is real love. |
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LucasMV said: The anime wont help you at all since none of the things they reference in Gou is the arcs that were adapted.Overall I liked Gou as a third season, we got to see what happened after Rika managed to break free from the 100 years loop she was trapped in. But I also feel that there was no need for a sequel. I am happy to see Higurashi back, but I don't know if it has anything to offer that it's prequel hasn't already done. Also, there seems to be a lot more focus on lore elements than before. For anyone who watched Umineko, do you recommend watching it to understand the lore a bit more? Or is it not really that connected? You only chance are the manga or the Visual novel. |
Saying someone is mad is the same as saying that they are insane. It's a excuse defence in legal terms, since being insane takes most responsibility away from said person. Let's look at the definition of madness and insanity, 1. Cannot distinguish fantasy from Reality. Doubtful for Satoko. We don't see any sign of her confusing the two. In fact being a looper seems to cure? Her HS, which is what could reasonably make her insane. 2. Severe function loss due to Psychosis. Not true for Satoko. She's fully capable of conducting her affairs as we see. She is not shown to suffer from Psychosis. 3. Uncontrollable impulsive behaviour. This is not true for Satoko. There are few instances where she seems to display this but they are few are far between. This is a acceptable point. I'm no psychologist but Satoko does not show behaviour that fits in with the definition of Insanity. In fact she's missing the defining symptom. |
| I don't understand how people rate this 8/10. Especially those that say, "the first half was bad, the second half was ok, 8/10". To me, 8/10 means that it was a very solid show. 5/10 is "not bad, not great" or "it has just as much bad elements as good". Anything below 5/10 is bad, just to what degree of awfulness do you think something is. 8/10 means you really enjoyed it and would recommend it to other people. By your own admittance, you hated half of it, the second half was ok, so the show gets a 8/10? I guess also the last thing you see is what you remember the most... But this had a non-ending, lmao. A tease to watch the next season which is caca. eh whatever, BUT I DISAGREE GOOD SIR WITH YOUR "half the show was bad, 8/10" |
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| I guess I was not the target audience Ryukishi07 had in mind while writing the script for this show, because I thought the whole thing was completely nonsensical from start to finish. Sure, I have not read the Visual Novel yet, just watched the anime adaptation when it first started back in 2005 / 2006-ish if I am not mistaken. So, I will admit that some of the narrative twists may be lost on me - but it does not change the fact that I was completely unable to recognise some of the characters I grew up liking over the years. I am not the biggest Higurashi fan obviously, far from it. For starters, the Visual Novel episodes are still uncharted territories to me. Plus, there were parts from the show I thought were extremely cringy: the slice of life elements, and some of the fan-service sequences. Even back in the days, I was of the opinion that they were embarrassing to say the least. However, when the anime worked, it worked - when the horror scenes sticked the landing, they certainly did. No question. I do not think that anime as a media is particularly scary: most of the horror shows fail on that regard, which is quite surprising considering how Japan is home to some of the best, and most frightful horror stories of all time: from their folkloric tales to their even detective literature (Edogawa Ranpo is a good example of what I am stating here), or to even some of their recent cinematic productions, japanese writers know how to create, and especially make a good horror story "scary". But not really when it comes to anime - which is quite a shame, since the media in question seems perfectly fit for the genre. Studio Deen's Higurashi was one of the few exceptions in my opinion. It might not be as good as the Visual Novels (which I am sure it is not), but when it comes to self-contained horror stories, I thought the staff did mostly a good job at the time. The people working on Gou however clearly did not. Indeed, Gou was anything but scary. In fact, some of the horror sequences - aside from being disgusting (see episode 16) - were quite funny. The art direction, and the pacing were all over of the place: some of the cuts from one scene to another felt like sick jokes by the directors. I assumed we were supposed to be firghtened, and saddened by the events taking place in Hinamizawa - not laughing at them. So, what was the tone here? Did the staff really consider, and ask themselves questions on what they were directing? I even had some gripes with how the characters were portrayed in some arcs, most notably Satoko: calling her OOC might be the understatement of the century. To accept this twisted/untwisted narrative, I am afraid that I have to see her as a completely different character that happens to be a look-alike to the Satoko I am familiar with. I am sorry to say that I am not convinced that what she experienced at St Lucia can make up for this... 'change in attitude'? I do not even know how to describe it... You see, it is not just a question of 'does it make sense with what we know of Satoko?', because of course Ryukishi07 could very well find a way to get himself out of the loophole he created. Of course, with Sotsu on the horizon, he could very well find a coherent intrigue to that twist: that's the thing with a TV show, there is always a chance to course-correct a narrative choice by adding more context, more plot lines to a story, or in this case a character. Thus, I could not care less about that issue at the moment. No, in my opinion it is rather a question of 'is it respectful to the character he once created?'. And I do not think it really is. I have never been the biggest fan of Satoko, I never liked her character to be honest, but that is beside the point. The point was that she had a focus, a role within the narrative, and with Gou the character went completely over that role. The thing is, I do not see why it was necessary in the first place. That is the real shame here: Higurashi had a conclusion; the show was over; the narrative was complete. We did not need a reason for Rika to go back to some arcs in Hinamizawa. We did not need to see what happened to her after the final episode. And finally, we did not need a clearer link between the Higurashi-verse, and the Umineko-verse. The idea that - in order to celebrate the 15th anniversary of the anime adaptation - it was necessary to find a connection between two distinct shows boggles my mind: of course, there were some hanging threads in Umineko, but from my understanding that is also part of the appeal: to not have a clear answer to every question. To reflect on the non-answered arguments, and to write up your own theories. Gou, with that mind, feels ill-conceived, and especially ill-considered. Can Sotsu make up for each and every one of my complaints? Can it really be the silver lining that the fans are expecting it to be? Maybe. I will not hold my breath on this one, but that is not out of the question of course. Yet, that would not change the fact that to appreciate what Gou did, you will have to watch another batch of episodes, which is not a good sign. Even without being self-contained, the question arcs were at least compelling horror stories in their own rights: of course some answers were needed, but were never mandatory to enjoy what you saw or read. That is not the case with Gou for a myriad of reasons that I have partially delved into. Of course the 'over-reliance' on the original stories was to be expected, but that does not change the fact that the shifting in the narratives was for the most part never particularly clever. Hell, Gou is anything but clever really. |
BertKnotApr 9, 2021 4:52 PM
Si1verR0se said: BertKnot said: So, what was the tone here? Did the staff really consider, and ask themselves questions on what they were directing? From interview with Kawaguchi: --On the other hand, you are quite aggressive in your depiction of gore, aren't you? Kawaguchi: It's more in the vein of 80's splatter movies. The more extreme the depiction is, the more it becomes a gag, like a B-grade horror movie. For the scene where Satoko performs the "cotton-splash" on Rika in episode 16, "The Cat Trick", we decided to do something like "Re-Animator" and asked the staff to do their best. Yes, they did that shit with clear understanding that it will be "B-grade horror movie", what a bunch of idiots( It's not what Higurashi was, and it's not what it needs to be. "And for the 15th anniversary of the anime lets fucking ruin this franchise". Gou's pitch meeting probably. Considering that they pulled out several extras;board games, gacha, music collections, recitals, video game collections for both Higurashi and Umineko, and with Higurashi using this fucking art for all... Well.... Celebrating Higurashi's anniversary or the story were the furthest from their goals. |
Chargecoulomb said: 4. You're insane when doctor stamps your papers with insaneSaying someone is mad is the same as saying that they are insane. It's a excuse defence in legal terms, since being insane takes most responsibility away from said person. Let's look at the definition of madness and insanity, 1. Cannot distinguish fantasy from Reality. Doubtful for Satoko. We don't see any sign of her confusing the two. In fact being a looper seems to cure? Her HS, which is what could reasonably make her insane. 2. Severe function loss due to Psychosis. Not true for Satoko. She's fully capable of conducting her affairs as we see. She is not shown to suffer from Psychosis. 3. Uncontrollable impulsive behaviour. This is not true for Satoko. There are few instances where she seems to display this but they are few are far between. This is a acceptable point. I'm no psychologist but Satoko does not show behaviour that fits in with the definition of Insanity. In fact she's missing the defining symptom. All in all, in general it comes down to on how we define insanity. Defining what is truly insanity is a bit more difficult. Unlike this other guy was saying "If you're violent and abusive, you're ALSO insane" has nothing to do with insanity lmao xD |
         Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
ssjokg said: Si1verR0se said: From interview with Kawaguchi: --On the other hand, you are quite aggressive in your depiction of gore, aren't you? Kawaguchi: It's more in the vein of 80's splatter movies. The more extreme the depiction is, the more it becomes a gag, like a B-grade horror movie. For the scene where Satoko performs the "cotton-splash" on Rika in episode 16, "The Cat Trick", we decided to do something like "Re-Animator" and asked the staff to do their best. Yes, they did that shit with clear understanding that it will be "B-grade horror movie", what a bunch of idiots( It's not what Higurashi was, and it's not what it needs to be. "And for the 15th anniversary of the anime lets fucking ruin this franchise". Gou's pitch meeting probably. Considering that they pulled out several extras;board games, gacha, music collections, recitals, video game collections for both Higurashi and Umineko, and with Higurashi using this fucking art for all... Well.... Celebrating Higurashi's anniversary or the story were the furthest from their goals. I disagree; considering how well they pulled off this sequel, I'd say celebrating the story of Higurashi was mission accomplished. |
| So far its a decent season, but i have some questions. Since Satoko time-leaped alot of times, Everyone has some sort of a Reading Steiner or dreams from different worldlines(Keiichi & Satoko's Uncle)<<& its even getting stronger at that bcoz of it. If this were the case, why didnt Rika show some signs of knowing the weird changes in this repeated timeline??? She should have a Reading Steiner or a deja vu moment atleast once in Satoko's time leaps. Honestly, i dont think Kai needs a sequel but so far im enjoying it, especially at the 2nd half. |
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SunshowerHina said: Rika has nearly full memories from the 100 years of the original loops.So far its a decent season, but i have some questions. Since Satoko time-leaped alot of times, Everyone has some sort of a Reading Steiner or dreams from different worldlines(Keiichi & Satoko's Uncle)<<& its even getting stronger at that bcoz of it. If this were the case, why didnt Rika show some signs of knowing the weird changes in this repeated timeline??? She should have a Reading Steiner or a deja vu moment atleast once in Satoko's time leaps. Honestly, i dont think Kai needs a sequel but so far im enjoying it, especially at the 2nd half. Satoko's loops arent the ones that started this. Rika has no deja vu moments because she already has full memories of most loops. She would need a lot more to get that but now Eua has made her able to remember the new loops, so Rika wont be getting those deja vu moments. |
| Bizarre episode for the final one of the season, but since the series is continuing, I guess it doesn't matter that it doesn't feel like some kind of bookmark on the season anyway. Thankfully, Takano's character didn't get dumpstered. You know, the idea of another looper was a cool idea. And Satoko being the looper in question could even work. Having her betray her best friend could've been an excellent tragedy. Unfortunately, the execution was just not there. People have already pointed it out in the countless walls of texts on this forum: Satoko's turn just comes off as too shallow. Not to mention that she goes from 0-100 real quick. Reminds me of Anakin Skywalker in Revenge of the Sith. "Let me show how evil I am by suddenly killing all the young padawans!" But I digress. There has to be a gradual fall for these things, but instead Satoko immediately traps Rika once again in another blender of nightmares...for ignoring her a little. All this over a spat between friends? I feel like Ryukishi could've come up with something better. It's not over, though, so maybe he'll salvage this in the concluding season. I hope. See you in the summer. |
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| Satoko's reasons are bland but whatever, it was very refreshing watching Higurashi again after many years. Can't wait for Sotsu. |
| I am pretty undecided after finishing this. Do I like the Satoko-Lamdba Reveal? Yes, I actually do. But to me, it just doesn't Balance out the stuff I didn't like. My Biggest complaint would be that the Structure of the Story was weird. We get basically the same question Arcs we already know yet again with just minor differences. It felt tedious to sit through them and if felt like they Took soo much time. Then we get a reveal, the climax, but it's... like at 2/3 in, so there is still stuff Following that, but the Tension is... Kinda gone. Which, in my personal Opinion, made the ending kinda lame as well. It just kinda... fizzled out. And then... I just cant get behind Satoko's Motives. It felt forced enough that Rika (who has fought for her friends for 100 years) suddenly does an 180 and abandons Satoko for no reason Which felt completely out of character, but at the same time, Satoko did shit to protect her friendship with Rika once they made it to St. Lucia's. But even that Aside, I can't believe Satoko would learn that Rika - who she Loves dearly, mind you - suffered, horribly Suffered for 100 years, even Sees it herself, and then just decides to have Rika live through all. Of. That. Again. No, sorry, no Kind of suffering Satoko Experienced can make me understand that. And then Eua tells her - clearly, outright tells her, that Worlds that are "over" build up on each other and have an impact on later Worlds and Satoko just IGNORES it a second later and Goes on saying that only the final World will count in the end. No, no it just doesnt make sense to me and seems to be made up just to fit the Story somehow. To me, This is not automatically good just because it is labelled Higurashi and has some Kind of Twist in it. |
| Satoko's determination to be with Rika is really something, its kinda interesting how she is doing small changes. Dying so much to fulfill a world where she can change Rika's dream, that spent more than 100 years trying to leave Hinamizawa |
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| Lambda origin story...?? That... was unexpected.... especially because until now I have always believed that she's Takano... I'm so glad I finished reading Umineko before watching this. |
un-owen-usrMay 19, 2021 3:49 PM
| El Psy Kongroo |
| Higurashi (Season 1 and 2) was my first horror/mystery anime, and I have held all anime of the same genre to the same standard. This season... did not match up to that standard. It was paced WAY too slow, with some episodes having no reveal to advance the plot. Even while watching the previous series WITH in depth knowledge of Umineko, I'd still give it a 5 out of 10. I don't see how ANYBODY missed how the pacing/episode style is eerily similar to Re-Zero... Which I considered more popular (but not better; sue me) than Higurashi, making it a more mainstream "version" of it. I can understand how studio Passione might be intimidated by this series... But they really should have tried to emulate what works instead of what's popular. A little girl trying to save her friends from a parasite conspiracy and child abuse > Thirsty boi trying to win affection of girl he just met any day (I think BOTH series are great BTW, just in their own way, with Higurashi the clear winner). It's like comparing Box of Gobins to Un-Go. It's just so obvious Passione tried to emulate Re-Zero badly. I'll go in more depth when I write my review... In anycase, I've been aboard this train since day one, so I'll ride it till the end. I do think Satoko becoming a Certainty Witch was a awesome twist, and look forward to the Miracle vs Certainty Witch combat in Sotsu. I just wish this season got to that sooner instead of... the entire Satoko arc again (whatever it's called. I mean, I seriously thought I was caught in Endless Eight for a second). Anyone who didn't see this coming can bite me: Satoko is a selfish brat who nearly drove her brother insane by emptying her fortitude tank into him. She never changed; her circumstances just did. What baffles me is how Rukia could abandon her like that and try to blame Satoko for, "Declining her help." THAT seemed uncharacteristic for a girl who spent 100 years trying to save her friends from death... |
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