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Apr 28, 2021 12:54 AM
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Why all the fuss about this show or manga? It is a typical school teaser story. Like Takagi-San but a bit older. So why all the pro- and con-rants all the time? Just watch it and either like it or not...
Apr 28, 2021 3:00 AM
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easy .
shinji from evangelion , this MC pissed me off so much in the tv serie i refuse to watch the movies. he's despicable , weak , pathetic .

at least the guy here is trying
Apr 28, 2021 11:02 AM

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Yukiteru Amano (Mirai Nikki), Kirito (SAO), Touya (Isekai Smartphone), The assistant from Tejina-senpai who they didn't even bother giving a real name, and Peter Grill are a handful that come to mind.
Apr 28, 2021 12:11 PM

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He is not that bad compared to the MC from School Days and Kazuya from Rental Girlfriend.

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OK so what I've gathered is this:

Step 1: Make MC whine and cry and just pathetic due to X reason.

Step 2: Make MC stop bitching and act like a normal person = Character growth

Step 3: ?????????

Step 4: Profit

Thats some Dollar store "character growth" if I've ever seen any. So many anime have gone this route lately and its just sad to see.

Literally the cheapest and most uncreative and lazy way to grow a character. Sure sure it resonates with the introverted and awkward crowd but really now, thats just going after low hanging fruit.

But I digress, Nagatoro MC is shit tier.
Apr 28, 2021 4:32 PM

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Lol.

Let's see: just from harems alone I'll be conservative and say at least 80% of the protags in those are dogshit.

So 0.8*406=324.
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Apr 29, 2021 2:29 AM
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Kazuya from Kanojo, Okarishimasu, change my mind
Apr 29, 2021 3:54 PM
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you cant. Its literally impossible
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He's bad, I'll give you that but so is Nishikata from Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san in the same was and I, personally, think that's great.

Kazuya from Rent a girlfriend is the most pathetic character I've seen in recent seasons, and what annoys me even more is how weak Horie Shun is at voicing him.
Apr 29, 2021 4:31 PM

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That's cause he's not actually written as a character...

He's just a device to carry all the fetishized ..."Oh my Gawd, I wish this cute Loli would kick me in the balls" ....-Thoughts

So don't expect him to be anything else than submissiv and pathetic, cause that's exactly how this Show works....many people LOVE that kinda stuff...

I know, it's weird
Apr 29, 2021 4:39 PM
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cchigu said:
Natsuki Subaru and Ellen Yeager.
if you really think eren is the worst mc then fuck you you don't understand shit
Apr 29, 2021 4:40 PM
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haha Kirito haha I'm smart, right?
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Scordolo said:
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so according to you introverts are masochist
Noice

When tf did I say introverts are masochist?
but the MC of this show is a masochist and you said he is an introvert
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deku from mha
yuki from mirai nikki
kirito from sao

the guy from redo of healer
rudeus from mushoku tensei
kazuya from rent a girlfriend

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Apr 29, 2021 9:07 PM

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i don't know but i agree he is the most pathetic MC, he annoys me


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Neckadia said:
Scordolo said:

When tf did I say introverts are masochist?
but the MC of this show is a masochist and you said he is an introvert

Yeah he is but that doesn't mean all introverts are masochists.

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makoto from school days.. he is absolutely the scum
#kyoanistrong
Apr 29, 2021 9:59 PM
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JayAshfield said:
The dude in kakegurui
He's just there for the pov, Yumeko is the actual MC.
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Hot_Green_Tea said:
Makoto (School Days), Kazuya (Rent a Girlfriend/Kanojo Okarishimasu), Haruto Kirishima (A town where you lived/Kimi no Iru Machi), and many more.

Naoto is actually a decent MC, he will develop.

It's just you that's not watching enough Anime and wants everything to be Instant. This Anime has only 3 episodes out(not even half of the season) and then you just spewing nonsense, pathetic.


i agree 100% with makoto being worse or "the worst" imo

i also think that the newcomers who didn't watch enough anime will be wanting any anime to develop like AOT

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Makoto, Tomoki, and Licht are worse.

I'll take a spineless introvert over perverts who rape girls or treat them like shit. T_T


ikr?! if it's gonna be like that then what's the point of getting attached to the characters.. for me, rape is the most sensitive topic to see in anime and it's very very hard subject to be done well

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Kazuya Kinoshita from "Rent-A-Girlfriend"
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I think the whole point is Nagatoro helps him learn to stand up for himself a bit. We saw this in episode 3 but we’ll just have to see how it plays out. A lot of MC’s in anime now are little bitches though tbh. I would like to see more anime with a strong male lead. Probably has a lot to do with the culture down there rn though.
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Scordolo said:
Neckadia said:
so according to you introverts are masochist
Noice

When tf did I say introverts are masochist?

I don't know why but this made me laugh so hard

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Deku is worse.

Weakling with no powers, acts all high and mighty after getting a cheat skill.

This basically sums up my reaction


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Apr 30, 2021 2:48 PM

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Kazuya from rent a gf ๐Ÿ˜‘
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Apr 30, 2021 3:38 PM
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Lapsos said:
He is pathetic, but is he a bad character? I take that over Kirito or the isekai smartphone guy.
It's not that kirito is a bad character just he got badly adapted in the anime.
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Honestly I don't hate this guy. Even though yes, he's very pathetic at times, but in some ways he feels more believable/realistic than other generic protagonists like the nisekoi one or the komi-san one; just some guys that in order to get the harem are "so good so bland" as it can get.

At least "paisen" with his flaws tries to get better, and he seems slowly but steady succeeding in the manga, which makes him more interesting imho
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Tsutsun from 3D Kanojo and Kazuya from Renkano. Good thing that 3D kanojo is completed in both manga and anime. Or else i'll have to see tsutsun being an idiot and self depreciate himself for eternity. Kazuya could have been the best character if he had guts to confess to chizuru. But so far his character is disappointing.

At least with nagatoro, the mc gets to develop a spine and evolve into a vertebrata.


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Tenchi Muyo is a lot worse by thousands of a percent. The guy gets a harem for being born and having a sword from his grandfather. It's messed up, he's like a shah or something but less charming.


I completely forgot about that series lol, props to you I guess, you are old enough to remember that (or rather, not young like the average MAL user that usually ignores older stuff)
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At least he is not a Simp, i say Kazuya from rent a GF is worse
May 1, 2021 7:31 AM
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Johnmiceh73 said:
cchigu said:
Natsuki Subaru and Ellen Yeager.
if you really think eren is the worst mc then fuck you you don't understand shit
As if there is anything to "understand" in AoT lmao. Eren is a trash MC.
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Honestly surprised to see the high number of Rent-A-Girlfriend considering how popular that anime was.
May 1, 2021 8:51 AM

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the MC of redo of healer and kazuya of rent a girlfriend.
Nao will have a very good development and changes a lot.
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Kirito and eren s2, need to i explain more.
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Avinash_rtw said:
Pathetic? Yes spineless ? Yes
Atleast he isn't trash like p*do mc
From mushoku tensei.so yeah he is not worst but he is still bad though but nagataro is nothing like takagi or usakichan she is way worse

Just because Rudeus is a p*do doesn't mean he is a worse mc than this guy.
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The MC from Boku no Piko of course.

NO Competition!
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cchigu said:
Natsuki Subaru and Ellen Yeager.


Subaru is one of the best written protagonist in anime period. What are you talking about? Yea he was a piece of shit as a person (not writting-wise) but that is the point, he changed a lot.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
May 1, 2021 11:47 AM

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Scordolo said:
Judging from the description he seems like the most realistic and relatable type.
How is he bad written just because he's an introvert?


Yea, this is yet another example of not being able to separate the objective and subjective quality of a character. I do not like this MC much but he is definitely not bad by any means.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
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BromWalar said:
cchigu said:
Natsuki Subaru and Ellen Yeager.


Subaru is one of the best written protagonist in anime period. What are you talking about? Yea he was a piece of shit as a person (not writting-wise) but that is the point, he changed a lot.
You forgot to wear a cap. The trashy melodrama writing of ReZero anime renders everything pointless so I can't take anything seriously.
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cchigu said:
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Subaru is one of the best written protagonist in anime period. What are you talking about? Yea he was a piece of shit as a person (not writting-wise) but that is the point, he changed a lot.
You forgot to wear a cap. The trashy melodrama writing of ReZero anime renders everything pointless so I can't take anything seriously.


What cap? "trashy melodrama writing" hmmm... this mean literally nothing. What do you mean by that?
cchigu said:
BromWalar said:


Subaru is one of the best written protagonist in anime period. What are you talking about? Yea he was a piece of shit as a person (not writting-wise) but that is the point, he changed a lot.
You forgot to wear a cap. The trashy melodrama writing of ReZero anime renders everything pointless so I can't take anything seriously.


What cap? "trashy melodrama writing" hmmm... this means literally nothing. What do you mean by that? You can slap this on any story that has any drama at all and call it "melodrama", even if it was (which it is not), how would it render a good story and characters pointless?

Also, we were talking about MC, not Re:zero as a whole. How is he a bad character? If you do not like him I can respect that, but that is just your opinion, nothing with substance.
‘It may be admitted that if it were possible for us to have so deep an insight into a human's way of thinking, as it shows itself both through inner and outer actions, that every, even the least incentive to these actions and all external occasions which affect them, were so known to us, then his future conduct could be predicted as certainly as the appearance of a solar or a lunar eclipse.’ Critique of Practical Reason, p. 230 of the Rosenkranz.
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Lloyd Belladonna is worse. He isn't even a proper protagonist. He reacts to the story happening around him rather than actively pursuing the plot himself.
May 1, 2021 12:33 PM
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The guy from Rent a Girlfriend. Absolutely pathetic on all levels. Never has there been anyone less deserving of his harem than that guy.
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cchigu said:
Johnmiceh73 said:
if you really think eren is the worst mc then fuck you you don't understand shit
As if there is anything to "understand" in AoT lmao. Eren is a trash MC.
your understanding on eren is dumb eren is great mc just like guts and gon
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Dont worry, he will grow both balls and a spine as the series goes on. Its character progression/growth, my man.

Eh, how much of a spine are we talking here?
For me it ain't worth reading if he doesn't get back at her at least 2x
Otherwise it's like getting blueballed with no release.

Thing is, this is a romance manga. Nagatoro loves the guy she just expresses it in teasing and bullying. Paisen will grow, going from crying at the drop of a hat to expressing his, uhh "affection" towards Nagatoro. He certainky is growing at a pretty steady pace, and the dynamic between the two can be just so gosh darn adorable. And seeing how the latest chapter ended, things will keep getting better
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The first MC that came to mind was Kazuya Kinoshita from Rent-a-Girlfriend. That guy made me so mad and annoyed with how pathetic he and his actions were. There were moments in an episode where I thought he should have shown some type of confidence or backbone but doesn't.
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mr_modest said:
Avinash_rtw said:
Pathetic? Yes spineless ? Yes
Atleast he isn't trash like p*do mc
From mushoku tensei.so yeah he is not worst but he is still bad though but nagataro is nothing like takagi or usakichan she is way worse

Just because Rudeus is a p*do doesn't mean he is a worse mc than this guy.
nope I will take pathetic mc over ugly bastard any day atleast he will grow up with series progress (I hope)
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Sieg from Fate Apocrypha I am sure is worse than this guy.
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This guy has got to be the most spineless and pathetic MC ever written in the history of anime. The guy cant even convey a coherent sentence to other humans his age much less show any kind of character. Dude is about as deep as a cardboard cutout.

Does this MC rank as the most pathetic of all MC's ever? I say yes or close 2nd
I think Naoto is not the worst, its this guy:




I have yet to see a character more pathetic, selfish, whiny and spineless than Kazuya
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@Samayou_Tamashii He is far better, I’d take a psychotic rapist over this spineless little bitch.

@KorhalChild This guy is the only one I can think of that comes close to this pathetic MC.

Anyone calling Rudeus the worst mc has no clue what they’re talking about and is probably underage. Just having an immoral protagonist doesn’t make them a bad character.

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@Samayou_Tamashii He is far better, I’d take a psychotic rapist over this spineless little bitch.


I guess that's going too far.
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Anyone calling Rudeus the worst mc has no clue what they’re talking about and is probably underage. Just having an immoral protagonist doesn’t make them a bad character.


This... why is this so hard to understand I wonder? Yeah, Rudeus' not exactly a hero or a moral compass or an exemplary citizen or whatever, but atleast he's not the same carbon-copy all-powerful all-knowing perfect nice guy isekai protagonist that we see in most isekai

Btw, on this topic, I like Rudy a bit more than Naoto, but in my opinion they're both pretty nice characters
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