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Apr 25, 2021 4:44 PM
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I love anime OPs, but when I search them up nowadays, I see a "60 fps 4K" next to them. It looks like the OPs have been "enhanced" with some program.
Lemme show you some of these.
60 fps 4K (Remember to set your settings to 1080p60 or something with the 60):


Original:


Now, you're free to have your own opinion, but the 60 fps one looks worse to me. It seems janky, and it's smooth in all the wrong places. (Also, the 60 fps one has the saturation raised up for some reason.)
I wouldn't care too much about this if it wasn't for the fact that the 60 fps one has 1.8 million views while the original has 200k. It's dumb.
If you want to see a really bad "enhanced" OP, look at this one:
Apr 25, 2021 4:47 PM
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4K60 but NO HDR, let me dislike all these videos. How dare they lack high visual fidelity.
Apr 25, 2021 4:47 PM
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The cuts in a "upgraded" 60fps OP always look terrible to me. The animations also look way too quick. I don't see the appeal at all.
KyleRileyApr 25, 2021 4:50 PM
Apr 25, 2021 4:50 PM
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They're called interpolated frames and are a travesty, they totally defeat the purpose of animation. Whatever floats their boat I guess.
Apr 25, 2021 4:51 PM
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lol, of course they are bad, when the studio make the OP for be <30fps, and someone just forcibly adapts it into 60 with a shitty program.


A more decent adaptation is not that easy, as you see with Chika dance:

Apr 25, 2021 4:56 PM
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They're terrible and just ruin the craft that went behind it.

I don't have a lot to add that wasn't said in that video:

Apr 25, 2021 5:00 PM
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Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of 60fps anime OPS, it just seems too smooth and defeats the purpose of animation. Also, this reminded me of a video about how 60 fps animation doesn't necessarily mean it's better

Zackack99Apr 25, 2021 5:10 PM
Apr 25, 2021 5:10 PM
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Touniouk said:
They're terrible and just ruin the craft that went behind it.

I don't have a lot to add that wasn't said in that video:



Lol, I was just thinking about this video
Apr 25, 2021 5:14 PM
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Some plebs think that 60 fps is better even though its just interpolated fake frames
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Apr 25, 2021 7:48 PM
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They think the 60 frames look better for some reason




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Apr 25, 2021 7:52 PM

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lol, there are some people who honestly think that the "60 fps" versions are better...
Apr 25, 2021 8:25 PM

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ichigoisbae said:
lol, there are some people who honestly think that the "60 fps" versions are better...


My guess is that they're gamers that think that higher fps = better when it comes to animation
Apr 25, 2021 8:32 PM
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I guess people think it's nice?

It's... really not. At least, to me. It totally destroys any nuances in character acting and subtle motions in the animation. A lot of... artifacting here? Is that the right word to describe the visual oddities?

Yes, these are plopped into an AI. Yes, it "adds more frames" but that's not necessarily a good thing. Inbetweening exists for a reason, and look what this AI does to them. I just think that AI has a very, very long way to go before it can do a "60FPS anime." Cartoons & anime are animated at 24FPS for a good reason, and even those are animated by humans, not AI.

I have seen this AI test on anime before. Once in a blue moon, one little cut from an anime will look relatively nice, but it will typically look quite different from the original cut, because the inbetweening is performed differently.
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Apr 25, 2021 8:49 PM

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People who watch and enjoy these kinds of videos are probably just gamers who constantly complain about having low FPS in their games and think that higher FPS = better, which doesn't apply here as well as it does in games.

You have to understand that anime is an already-finished product that is primarily adapted for 24 fps, and the ratio isn't even whole (1:2.5), so you have to create a half frame after every 2 added frames, which makes it all janky and weird.
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Apr 25, 2021 8:58 PM

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Only time higher frames is better is for gaming, if you try that crap in animation it just looks wonky.
Apr 25, 2021 9:04 PM
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Touniouk said:
They're terrible and just ruin the craft that went behind it.

I don't have a lot to add that wasn't said in that video:



very interesting video, thank you. Yep, pretty much summarizes my thoughts + adds in some things I couldn't have described properly let alone come up with.
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Apr 25, 2021 9:05 PM

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Just like Touniouk or Zackack99's opinion, This video explains my opinion pretty well.
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Apr 25, 2021 9:23 PM

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The thing is that animation is made at 24fps max, and although OPs do have smoother animation than the rest of their anime will, meaning a decent chunk of it may genuinely be in a full 24fps, there's still some of it that will be done in 12fps and possibly even 8fps. Taking something that's originally 8fps and making it 60fps means that 87% of the frames are being created by the bot, which just makes it look like garbage.
Apr 26, 2021 12:02 AM

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These things look weird.
Do people really think these look better?
Anime are not video games and software interpolating the frames is not the same as actual people drawing those 60 frames.
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Apr 26, 2021 12:33 AM
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its frame interpolation, while it can look really good sometimes, it usually only works well on scenes without much movement and u should definitely not just slap it onto some anime op
Apr 26, 2021 6:16 AM

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It's disgusting. It needs to stop already. It just ruins the animation entirely.
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Apr 26, 2021 6:32 AM

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Yeah these are always really ugly. It's never a good idea to "increase" the framerate of anything like this. Interpolating between frames just makes things look mushy and fake (because they were never intended to be animated that way to begin with). I have no idea why anyone bothers to do this.

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Apr 26, 2021 6:36 AM

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I think they are trying to get more views I guess
Apr 26, 2021 6:50 AM
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Rob7 said:
lol, of course they are bad, when the studio make the OP for be <30fps, and someone just forcibly adapts it into 60 with a shitty program.


A more decent adaptation is not that easy, as you see with Chika dance:



There's more efforts put into it and it definitely looks better than most 60fps anime stuff but still, you can feel that it has been made by an AI. It looks almost like it has been animated in 3d and there's an uncanney valley vibe.

I've seen Noodle's video and I have nothing to add. His points were pretty spot on.
Apr 26, 2021 7:29 AM

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Those are gamers, nobody else really cares about frames per second.
Apr 26, 2021 9:44 AM
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An attempt by those who hardly understand how this shit works and it is usually done by shits who think the more the better
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