Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Jan 21, 2021 12:18 PM
#501
The episode really be like ‘Emilia I love you!’ ‘No you don’t!’ ‘Yes I came all this way to see you!’ ‘But you left me!’ ‘Yeah but I love you now’ ‘Liar!’ ‘Bitch i been suffering for you’ ‘You shouldn’t suffer for me!’ ‘Okay I won’t’ ‘So you don’t care about me?!’ ‘Are we really going to carry out this argument for half an episode?!’ ‘...’ ‘...’ ‘Liar’ |
Jan 22, 2021 5:02 PM
#502
Jagd84 said: freizel said: Why are you so angry? Why all Subaru stans so freaking angry all the time ... I like rem as a character not as a waifus, in fact I DONT SHIP HER WITH SUBARU LOL SHE DESERVE BETTER LOL i critizied the scene, the feelings It convey , WAS CHEAP, deal with It I want to see rem again cuz i like her, i Hope she wakes up... Not for shipping her with annoying Subaru, is cuz things get boring withouth her Now i have so many questions and not answer cuz as a anime only seems i have to continúe this yo get a few questions answered , web novels fans know more cuz they are reading original source but they act as if they are better at getting between the line when most miss the whole point ... I'm not angry, I'm only point you superficial hypocrisy. Subaru confessed in a similar meaningless to Rem but rougher and more direct. In a show about characters speaking their minds towards each other to the point they are even fighting to convey their feelings (like with Otto and Subaru ep 39) how the hell Subaru's words and actions superficial. Its like taking the scene where Otto literally beats up Subaru to get him to trust him and saying Otto wasn't genuine in wanting to help Subaru because he hit him. You are not paying attention to meaning of the actual words that was getting through to Emilia but instead complaining about pointless things little relevance. Both Subaru and Emilia are highly emotional and are quarreling like married couple saying awkward things but still attempting understand each other cause they care. Believe it or not real relationship re actually messy and fought. They requires both people sometimes vent to grow. Emilia doesn't want to be alone, she afraid being hurt again, she is no longer sure of who she is and scared that Subaru detests her. Subaru fights those anxieties the best way he can so that she stand up pave a future for herself and show that he still loves her. If Emilia can't believe in herself then he wants to her believe in him that believes her strength if will. That is why he is there and nothing else. Anyway, i'm done speaking abut this Tilou25 said: M_Villa said: Never really thought about it like this, but, you might be right. I am an Anime only fan. Love the show. But Emila has said somethings that have been... odd.. Like when Subaru and Emilia were in the cart, headed to the sanctuary, and Emilia made the comment how Subaru always sits right next to her.. how it used to bother her... The creepiest thing you made me realize is how Subaru's constant "I love you" towards Emilia mirror Satella's interactions towards Subaru. Almost the same words. She was used to being lonely and hated and realized that Subaru became an important person for her, that's all. Emilia and him are the same (much more than some people seems to think here). By the way rem did the same thing with the "i love you" you know ? it's was just more elaborated. Exactly, it just rougher and rawer version of Rem did for him. But authentic and brilliantly written that true to his and Emilia's characters. It seriously felt like an actual lovers quarrel! Its something so rare to see in anime. Why do you bring rem into this ? When did i mention rem confession was good too? Why do you asume i ship rem with Subaru ? Rem deserve better lol You shippers are so annoying, puting works on someone else people |
Jan 22, 2021 5:38 PM
#503
Atomic_Senpai said: Cringe fest of an episode, how pathetic Emilia is. Glad someone said it, this was bad. I am convinced that Emilia could commit mass genocide and eat people alive and Subaru would still simp over her. He has become an absolutely boring, one dimensional, white bread character. I don't know where the characters and writing that I was introduced to have gone, but until they come back I'm out. |
Jan 22, 2021 6:58 PM
#504
I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush |
Jan 22, 2021 7:05 PM
#505
freizel said: I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush Are you ok dude? Seems like you're having a stroke. Jokes aside, your whole statement is cringier than the fanbase you claim that's cringe. |
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Jan 22, 2021 7:36 PM
#506
Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush Are you ok dude? Seems like you're having a stroke. Jokes aside, your whole statement is cringier than the fanbase you claim that's cringe. WoW how original, you attack me instead of my argument as all cancer fanbase did cuz I didnt like the Kiss scene and give solid reasons For real bringing arguments here was a mistake , Emilia fans are 12 and cringe the end I Thought this fanbase was about the story but i was wrong , is this imaginary fight againts shippers. *Roll eyes * |
Jan 22, 2021 7:53 PM
#507
freizel said: Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush Are you ok dude? Seems like you're having a stroke. Jokes aside, your whole statement is cringier than the fanbase you claim that's cringe. WoW how original, you attack me instead of my argument as all cancer fanbase did cuz I didnt like the Kiss scene and give solid reasons For real bringing arguments here was a mistake , Emilia fans are 12 and cringe the end I Thought this fanbase was about the story but i was wrong , is this imaginary fight againts shippers. *Roll eyes * Why did you assume I wanted to argue in the first place? Why did you assume I care about the ships? Your whole statement was written by like a 12 year old, it's messy and doesn't make any sense, you must be very delusional if you can't even see the hypocrisy in your posts, at least put some effort and make it more clear and concise and more appealing to look at or you're going to seem like a salty cringey 12 y/o to most people. |
GilgameshuuJan 22, 2021 7:57 PM
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Jan 22, 2021 8:15 PM
#508
Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush Are you ok dude? Seems like you're having a stroke. Jokes aside, your whole statement is cringier than the fanbase you claim that's cringe. WoW how original, you attack me instead of my argument as all cancer fanbase did cuz I didnt like the Kiss scene and give solid reasons For real bringing arguments here was a mistake , Emilia fans are 12 and cringe the end I Thought this fanbase was about the story but i was wrong , is this imaginary fight againts shippers. *Roll eyes * Why did you assume I wanted to argue in the first place? Why did you assume I care about the ships? Your whole statement was written by like a 12 year old, it's messy and doesn't make any sense, you must be very delusional if you can't even see the hypocrisy in your posts, at least put some effort and make it more clear and concise and more appealing to look at or you're going to seem like a salty cringey 12 y/o to most people. Dude are you having a stroke? I dont understand your point please elavorate |
Jan 22, 2021 8:38 PM
#509
freizel said: Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush Are you ok dude? Seems like you're having a stroke. Jokes aside, your whole statement is cringier than the fanbase you claim that's cringe. WoW how original, you attack me instead of my argument as all cancer fanbase did cuz I didnt like the Kiss scene and give solid reasons For real bringing arguments here was a mistake , Emilia fans are 12 and cringe the end I Thought this fanbase was about the story but i was wrong , is this imaginary fight againts shippers. *Roll eyes * Why did you assume I wanted to argue in the first place? Why did you assume I care about the ships? Your whole statement was written by like a 12 year old, it's messy and doesn't make any sense, you must be very delusional if you can't even see the hypocrisy in your posts, at least put some effort and make it more clear and concise and more appealing to look at or you're going to seem like a salty cringey 12 y/o to most people. Dude are you having a stroke? I dont understand your point please elavorate Apparently your comprehension level is that of a toddler. |
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Jan 22, 2021 9:50 PM
#510
Gilgameshuu said: lmao it looked like this guy @freizel was ready with messages doesn't matter what you reply to him i am done hahahafreizel said: Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: Gilgameshuu said: freizel said: I simple dont understand why Emilia fans bring rem here, i like rem as a character not as a waifu to ship her to Subaru In fact is better if Subaru dont end with rem , he doesnt deserve her hahaha At least he gets a redemtion arc and learn to be less possesive and cringe but i doubt It ... For real I'm the only one here that Thought this anime was about fantasy and mistery ? With dark undertones ? For real The fanbase is just shippers ... I know that lately they have been adding a LOT of waifus for fanservice but i really want to know how this end ....NO WITH WHO SUBARU ENDS... I DONT CARE ... Is this a shoujo or what? Did i read the labels wrong ? The whole comment section is full of Emilia shippers wanting to fight rem fans just cuz they want to... All rem fans i Saw were : awwww no more rem ... Is cringe, why is this fanbase so cringe!!! For real in NOT OTHER anime in this site have this TOXICITY. Are you trolls ? Dude i Hope so cuz if not then you GUYS have zero arguments and full of hate there, also you GUYS asume cuz i didnt like the crigiest Kiss scene ever is cuz i was envy It was not my ship lol NO, IT WAS CUZ THE SCENE WAS BADLY made, the dialogue was so bad It Hurt and most ANIME ONLY DIDNR UNDERSTAND IT !!! Get It together, not everybody has to read the web novel to enjoy the anime, thats the whole point of an anime being made, to showcase same things as in novel Is understandable that having little airing time Will removed dialogue and stuff that screenwriters think is NO NECESARY, but to the point that most of the inner dialogue is removed (as per webnovel reader mention) make no SENSE , poor choice from Staff . Scene still lack impact and feel Rush Are you ok dude? Seems like you're having a stroke. Jokes aside, your whole statement is cringier than the fanbase you claim that's cringe. WoW how original, you attack me instead of my argument as all cancer fanbase did cuz I didnt like the Kiss scene and give solid reasons For real bringing arguments here was a mistake , Emilia fans are 12 and cringe the end I Thought this fanbase was about the story but i was wrong , is this imaginary fight againts shippers. *Roll eyes * Why did you assume I wanted to argue in the first place? Why did you assume I care about the ships? Your whole statement was written by like a 12 year old, it's messy and doesn't make any sense, you must be very delusional if you can't even see the hypocrisy in your posts, at least put some effort and make it more clear and concise and more appealing to look at or you're going to seem like a salty cringey 12 y/o to most people. Dude are you having a stroke? I dont understand your point please elavorate Apparently your comprehension level is that of a toddler. |
Jan 24, 2021 12:11 PM
#512
The argument between Emilia and Subaru made me want to almost drop the show. The flawed reasoning was just too much for me. It felt so dumb. Anytime Emilia said something reasonable Subaru just said "I love you' as if that's some unbeatable logic. You can think otherwise, or defend it in any way. Maybe because you believe it's in character, it's okay. Or whatever other reason. I won't try to change your opinion. I just want to express my opinion. Not here to fight over best girl or whatever. I did not like the argument and how Subaru won by basically saying the same thing over and over. That's how I saw it. I cringed so hard watching this. It hurts even more that Emilia accepted this flawed reasoning. If a romantic interest did that to me, I would lose all interest. Relationships shouldn't be built on blind love.Arguments shouldn't be won by saying, "But I love you." |
Jan 24, 2021 12:26 PM
#513
Jimbo_X said: The argument between Emilia and Subaru made me want to almost drop the show. The flawed reasoning was just too much for me. It felt so dumb. Anytime Emilia said something reasonable Subaru just said "I love you' as if that's some unbeatable logic. You can think otherwise, or defend it in any way. Maybe because you believe it's in character, it's okay. Or whatever other reason. I won't try to change your opinion. I just want to express my opinion. Not here to fight over best girl or whatever. I did not like the argument and how Subaru won by basically saying the same thing over and over. That's how I saw it. I cringed so hard watching this. It hurts even more that Emilia accepted this flawed reasoning. If a romantic interest did that to me, I would lose all interest. Relationships shouldn't be built on blind love.Arguments shouldn't be won by saying, "But I love you." This is not romance anime, also emilia has 14 years old mental. Writing was perfect, cringe? Real life is cringe. I don't want to insult people's taste but you guys really have bad taste and can't understand what is good writing. (Your Season 1 rating is much higher than Season 2 already explains you can't understand what is quality) |
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Jan 24, 2021 2:46 PM
#514
MAN!! This episode was fkn amazing... Otto's story and battle and then the kinda boring end part but then improved by that kiss mmmm good one , good one |
Jan 25, 2021 3:30 AM
#515
The kiss was cute I hope Ram gets help asap... |
Jan 26, 2021 6:29 AM
#516
Jimbo_X said: The argument between Emilia and Subaru made me want to almost drop the show. The flawed reasoning was just too much for me. It felt so dumb. Anytime Emilia said something reasonable Subaru just said "I love you' as if that's some unbeatable logic. You can think otherwise, or defend it in any way. Maybe because you believe it's in character, it's okay. Or whatever other reason. I won't try to change your opinion. I just want to express my opinion. Not here to fight over best girl or whatever. I did not like the argument and how Subaru won by basically saying the same thing over and over. That's how I saw it. I cringed so hard watching this. It hurts even more that Emilia accepted this flawed reasoning. If a romantic interest did that to me, I would lose all interest. Relationships shouldn't be built on blind love.Arguments shouldn't be won by saying, "But I love you." I thought the same thing. It felt a bit surreal the way the scene was presented as meaningful and romantic when it was all over the place and didn't really address so many things. The whole letting her down part is never directly addressed by Subaru verbally to Emelia. His response to her saying you broke your promise was "I love you"? Saying I love you is not an apology. Saying I love is meaningless if you actions don't represent that. She then calls him out on it and then he fucking negs her? WTF. She again brings it up but then starts talking about him not loving her because she'll be different person when her memories come back? She was literally talking about how can he really love her if he broke his promise just before this and then suddenly she just forgets that? And then everything is alright because he tells her he'll always love her not matter what...Not adressing the main thing she is bringing up again. This scene plays out like Subaru is a manipulative asshole which is completely different from his character has been till now. Not sure how I feel anymore about this show because all of this has ruined my suspension of disbelief. |
Jan 26, 2021 6:45 AM
#517
Tem-Inburn said: Jimbo_X said: The argument between Emilia and Subaru made me want to almost drop the show. The flawed reasoning was just too much for me. It felt so dumb. Anytime Emilia said something reasonable Subaru just said "I love you' as if that's some unbeatable logic. You can think otherwise, or defend it in any way. Maybe because you believe it's in character, it's okay. Or whatever other reason. I won't try to change your opinion. I just want to express my opinion. Not here to fight over best girl or whatever. I did not like the argument and how Subaru won by basically saying the same thing over and over. That's how I saw it. I cringed so hard watching this. It hurts even more that Emilia accepted this flawed reasoning. If a romantic interest did that to me, I would lose all interest. Relationships shouldn't be built on blind love.Arguments shouldn't be won by saying, "But I love you." I thought the same thing. It felt a bit surreal the way the scene was presented as meaningful and romantic when it was all over the place and didn't really address so many things. The whole letting her down part is never directly addressed by Subaru verbally to Emelia. His response to her saying you broke your promise was "I love you"? Saying I love you is not an apology. Saying I love is meaningless if you actions don't represent that. She then calls him out on it and then he fucking negs her? WTF. She again brings it up but then starts talking about him not loving her because she'll be different person when her memories come back? She was literally talking about how can he really love her if he broke his promise just before this and then suddenly she just forgets that? And then everything is alright because he tells her he'll always love her not matter what...Not adressing the main thing she is bringing up again. This scene plays out like Subaru is a manipulative asshole which is completely different from his character has been till now. Not sure how I feel anymore about this show because all of this has ruined my suspension of disbelief. You've completely misunderstood everything, it was meant to be all over the place and messy, that's how the scene was intended to be written, it was all made to seem like two children bickering at each other. |
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Jan 26, 2021 7:12 AM
#518
Tem-Inburn said: I thought the same thing. It felt a bit surreal the way the scene was presented as meaningful and romantic when it was all over the place and didn't really address so many things. The whole letting her down part is never directly addressed by Subaru verbally to Emelia. His response to her saying you broke your promise was "I love you"? Saying I love you is not an apology. Saying I love is meaningless if you actions don't represent that. She then calls him out on it and then he fucking negs her? WTF. She again brings it up but then starts talking about him not loving her because she'll be different person when her memories come back? She was literally talking about how can he really love her if he broke his promise just before this and then suddenly she just forgets that? And then everything is alright because he tells her he'll always love her not matter what...Not adressing the main thing she is bringing up again. This scene plays out like Subaru is a manipulative asshole which is completely different from his character has been till now. Not sure how I feel anymore about this show because all of this has ruined my suspension of disbelief. Yeah basically what I saw. What bothered me the most is Emilia is usually smart about these things. But she just accepted it all, ignoring all the things she brought up. Although I will say, this is sadly in character. he did similar annoying antics during season 1 when Emilia told him to stay put. Completely betrayed her trust to do his own thing. Gilgameshuu said: You've completely misunderstood everything, it was meant to be all over the place and messy, that's how the scene was intended to be written, it was all made to seem like two children bickering at each other. Regardless of it's intended or not. it's still annoying and makes it difficult to like or even sympathize with such characters. I don't want to devolve into insulting arguments. I respect that you probably liked this and saw it as good. That's fine. I just didn't. Just please don't assume people don't understand things. He had a pretty clear understanding of the story and what happened. it wasn't a complex scene. We just didn't like the writing. The intention isn't very important. Basically, if it's intended to be immature bickering, I still found it annoying. Simple real life example. Imagine if someone runs into me when sprinting, knocking me over and causing me to drop and break my glass of water. Regardless of their intention, That's still annoying to me. Whether or not it's by accident, does not matter. I've already broken my glass. They can of course apologize or help me up, but at the moment it was annoying. I didn't like it. And I wish I hadn't broken my glass. Does that make sense? |
Jimbo_XJan 26, 2021 7:15 AM
Jan 26, 2021 7:47 AM
#519
Jimbo_X said: Regardless of it's intended or not. it's still annoying and makes it difficult to like or even sympathize with such characters. I don't want to devolve into insulting arguments. I respect that you probably liked this and saw it as good. That's fine. I just didn't. Just please don't assume people don't understand things. He had a pretty clear understanding of the story and what happened. it wasn't a complex scene. We just didn't like the writing. The intention isn't very important. Basically, if it's intended to be immature bickering, I still found it annoying. Simple real life example. Imagine if someone runs into me when sprinting, knocking me over and causing me to drop and break my glass of water. Regardless of their intention, That's still annoying to me. Whether or not it's by accident, does not matter. I've already broken my glass. They can of course apologize or help me up, but at the moment it was annoying. I didn't like it. And I wish I hadn't broken my glass. Does that make sense? I fully understand and respect your opinion, and don't worry I'm not one of those hyperactive fans that relies on insulting, I also don't want to take this any further. I just disagree with your viewpoints and gave my own opinion of the scene, while it was not a perfect scene in any sense, I just really enjoyed just how genuine their emotions are during the argument, and them letting out their feelings by bickering like children, saying the first things that comes to their minds while paying no mind to whatever they're saying, even if it becomes non-sensical, and frequently derails, I thought it was still realistic at least just IMO, while some might have found it cringey, and I can understand that. Despite your distaste of this episode, I hope the future episodes are better for you, if you ever decide to watch the rest! |
GilgameshuuJan 26, 2021 7:52 AM
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Jan 26, 2021 7:58 AM
#520
Gilgameshuu said: I fully understand and respect your opinion, and don't worry I'm not one of those hyperactive fans that relies on insulting, I also don't want to take this any further. I just disagree with your viewpoints and gave my own opinion of the scene, while it was not a perfect scene in any sense, I just really enjoyed just how genuine their emotions are during the argument, and them letting out their feelings by bickering like children, saying the first things that comes to their minds while paying no mind to whatever they're saying, even if it becomes non-sensical, and frequently derails, I thought it was still realistic at least just IMO, while some might have found it cringey, and I can understand that. Despite your distaste of this episode, I hope the future episodes are better for you, if you ever decide to watch the rest! Thanks! I really appreciate your calm demeanour. I understand your view and I'm not trying to change your mind. We can just disagree on tastes, that's fine. Have a nice day :D I'll probably watch the rest still, I don't hate the anime and I am watching it with someone. I hope you and I can both enjoy the rest. I am invested in the story, so I want to see what happens still. |
Jan 27, 2021 1:14 PM
#521
Well, good thing I couldn't care less about shipping. That way I can peacefully enjoy the show without feeling like I'm going to war. Aside from that, unfortunately, this episode confirmed that I have a lot of issues with Emilia's character which makes it very difficult for me to truly appreciate her. I won't explain said issues for now because I don't want to die to the hands of an angry Emilia stan, I prefer to wait and see if those issues are solved, but still, for now it's very complicated. Our little Subaru however just confirmed how I feel about him. Basically I have some issues with him, and he can be very cringy at times... But it's tough for me not to like him. He is incredibly awkward but well, that's Barusu for you. And finally... OTTO IS A PRECIOUS LITTLE GUY WHO NEEDS TO BE PROTECTED AT ALL COSTS AND WHILE I LIKE GARFIEL, HE BETTER NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING TRULY BAD TO MY BOY |
Jan 27, 2021 11:16 PM
#522
Otto really did great, even if Ram doesn't think so. My man is like the Doctor Dolittle of the Re:Zero universe. Glad he was able to make his life a worthwhile one even after being kicked out of his community. THAT KISS SCENE WAS AMAZING. Mad lad Subaru was able to pull a W out of that tense situation. I wonder what Garfiel is planning on doing... |
Jan 28, 2021 6:44 AM
#523
Jan 28, 2021 8:55 AM
#524
Otto's got a really nice power. He did well in halting Garf!!! Also, they finally kissed!! I hope she believes in Subaru now!! |
Jan 28, 2021 9:31 AM
#525
Little Emilia is really cuuuteeeeeee, I can't handle it.........and that Geuse is Betelgeuse right? He seems fine I think.... |
Jan 30, 2021 10:44 PM
#526
Emilia vs Subaru might just be the best anime fight of the season. Damn, what a punch to the gut. Just when you thought Otto would get an episode all to himself to shine... So much happened I don't even think I'm able to comprehend it. I may have to rewatch the second half. But I sure am glad I stopped after episode one to watch the movie. |
Jan 30, 2021 10:48 PM
#527
I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO MUCH. I LOVE THIS SEASON 2 SO MUCH. AND I CRIED SO MUCH. T_T this season is so goodddd! Emilia-tannnn! ꒰ •ॢ ̫ -ॢ๑꒱*೨ |
Feb 1, 2021 3:55 AM
#528
Otto is showing some amazing tactics at the beginning, which quickly starts to make sense with his backstory. When they fight Garfield, I find it so crazy is how much blowback Subaru's friends are willing to take to help him out. Those are some truly reliable relationships. Lastly, the conversation Subaru had with Emilia was pretty powerful and as seen in every aspect of media. Love is a pretty good motivator to get our hero to do stuff. |
Feb 1, 2021 11:34 PM
#529
CamusEvergarden said: My man, you are so damn right. Season 1 was all about people fighting against bad people/situations. Even season 2 part 1 was about other people struggling to get out of bad situations. And Emilia was nowhere to be found anywhere. Atomic_Senpai said: Cringe fest of an episode, how pathetic Emilia is. Glad someone said it, this was bad. I am convinced that Emilia could commit mass genocide and eat people alive and Subaru would still simp over her. He has become an absolutely boring, one dimensional, white bread character. I don't know where the characters and writing that I was introduced to have gone, but until they come back I'm out. Mark my words harters, EMILIA WAS NOWHERE TO BE FOUND. |
Feb 4, 2021 9:44 AM
#530
Aww my heart! i agree with Emilia though lol, as mature relationships develop you need more reasons than that. |
Feb 5, 2021 1:31 AM
#531
Goofy looking and goofy sounding character, do we really need this guy here? At least that’s what I thought during the first season. Then the second season rolled around, and this episode right here. With his backstory told, and in a very cohesive fashion at that, hot damn was the transition back into present pretty seamless, Otto might just be the best side character of the series. But only because rem is pretty much non existent in this nice lengthy sanctuary arc lol! Left a bunch of questions in the last episode discussion post, and while none of them were really answered in this episode because it’s just ottos backstory and then subaru simping for Emilia for ten minutes straight, it was still a damn good watch making half an hour feel like five minutes. I remembered one thing though, I believe garfiel didn’t want subaru doing the trials despite having shown his capability for them was because he smelled some witch scent on him or whatever. I guess that’s simple enough. He just doesn’t trust him, or just doesn’t want the barrier lifted at all so he has to prevent subaru from doing so. As for echnida and all the witches and whatever their motivations are, not even gonna go there because it literally all went over my puny head there during the last couple episodes of part 1 of season 2. Dang I do need a refresher though- who put this barrier on this forest again, and why? Was someone butthurt about something or... perhaps set the trials up so they could observe whoever went through them and learn more about, them?? Frick I probably shouldn’t have watched season 2 part 1 while half asleep at 3am |
Feb 8, 2021 2:46 PM
#532
This episode was... fine, I guess? The first half with Otto's past and action scenes with Otto and Ram trying to slow Garfiel were great, however what happened next was dull for me. Perhaps I would have different opinion about that scene with Subaru and Emilia if it was not that long. It was basically squeaking Emilia and Subaru telling her "I love you" for over 9000 times. Yeah, they finally kissed, so what if the built-up of this scene made that kiss looking more like a relief from knowing that the whole scene is gonna end soon, than looking as something actually important (and that kiss was indeed important). Dunno, maybe my expectations are too high, but it's Light Novel readers' fault for spreading hype about Season 2's second part. Perhaps it is a good adaptation for LN readers, but for me, an anime-only fan, itthe whole Season 2 is worse than Season 1. |
Feb 8, 2021 3:09 PM
#533
Thank you for your kind words, @Okeanix. I am really delighted of your ability to respect other people's tastes or opinions, especially when - as in the scene I wrote about - I could see the depth and significance of this scene, but just poorly executed. You were so kind to, instead of helping me with my my confusion with this anime's plot I have forgotten about, send me a private message with a link with spoilers. I don't know what kind of spoilers were there, but do you think it was wise to share a link warning that it has spoilers (so perhaps it had spoilers from the Light Novel), while you know that I am an anime-only viewer and it wouldn't be cool for me to get spoiled about the series so much about dialogues and the actual plot? Hmm.. Yes, Shingeki no Kyojin manga is 10/10 for me, glad that you have noticed it. :) As for anime adaptations Season 3 Part 2 and The Final Season have also 10/10 scores on my list. 💪 |
Feb 8, 2021 4:49 PM
#534
There's a lot of simping on Subaru's part, that dialogue of Subaru and Emilia was a cringefest to be honest, so cheesy. I really don't like their relationship, it doesn't feel natural to me, it feels forced. The dialogue of those 2 was bad, if the dialogue was a bit better I would have liked that scene but I didn't the way it was presented in this episode and I see that I'm not the only one thinking this, there's a lot of complaints about their dialogue in this thread. |
Feb 8, 2021 4:54 PM
#535
xZabuzax said: There's a lot of simping on Subaru's part, that dialogue of Subaru and Emilia was a cringefest to be honest, so cheesy. I really don't like their relationship, it doesn't feel natural to me, it feels forced. The dialogue of those 2 was bad, if the dialogue was a bit better I would have liked that scene but I didn't the way it was presented in this episode and I see that I'm not the only one thinking this, there's a lot of complaints about their dialogue in this thread. You expect two teenage idiots to have a mature conversation? That would actually feel MUCH more forced when compared to their actual conversation here which is them just letting out all their feelings and emotions without thinking. |
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Feb 8, 2021 5:06 PM
#536
Gilgameshuu said: You expect two teenage idiots to have a mature conversation? That would actually feel MUCH more forced when compared to their actual conversation here which is them just letting out all their feelings and emotions without thinking. They don't need to have a mature converesation but they don't need to be so cheesy about it either, is like the author wanted to use the cheesiest way possible to deliver the dialogue and that doesn't fly well with me, if the dialogue was less cheesy and a bit more natural I would be ok with it. Every time Emilia asked a question Subaru avoided the question and started simping the hell out of it really hard, it was obnoxious to watch for me. I know that's how the author wanted to deliver that message so congratulations, you delivered the message well by having a lot of watchers cringe in it. Is the same thing that happened with Subaru in the middle of season 1, pure cringefest on Subaru's part, that's how the author wanted him to be so congratulations, that's how you wanted Subaru to be and plenty of people got annoyed and cringed with him. What I'm trying to say is that those cringe moments could've been reduced and maybe we wouldn't cringe so much in it. I really don't care if they try to act "natural" or whatever, if it's a cringefest then it's a cringefest no matter how you sugar coat it. |
Feb 8, 2021 5:14 PM
#537
xZabuzax said: Gilgameshuu said: You expect two teenage idiots to have a mature conversation? That would actually feel MUCH more forced when compared to their actual conversation here which is them just letting out all their feelings and emotions without thinking. They don't need to have a mature converesation but they don't need to be so cheesy about it either, is like the author wanted to use the cheesiest way possible to deliver the dialogue and that doesn't fly well with me, if the dialogue was less cheesy and a bit more natural I would be ok with it. Every time Emilia asked a question Subaru avoided the question and started simping the hell out of it really hard, it was obnoxious to watch for me. I know that's how the author wanted to deliver that message so congratulations, you delivered the message well by having a lot of watchers cringe in it. Is the same thing that happened with Subaru in the middle of season 1, pure cringefest on Subaru's part, that's how the author wanted him to be so congratulations, that's how you wanted Subaru to be and plenty of people got annoyed and cringed with him. What I'm trying to say is that those cringe moments could've been reduced and maybe we wouldn't cringe so much in it. I really don't care if they try to act "natural" or whatever, if it's a cringefest then it's a cringefest no matter how you sugar coat it. So your criticism is it is "CRINGE". When real life is basically cringe? Everytime Re:Zero haters prove their intelligence. Bravo. |
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Feb 8, 2021 5:21 PM
#538
Okeanix said: So your criticism is it is "CRINGE". When real life is basically cringe? Everytime Re:Zero haters prove their intelligence. Bravo. First of all, I'm not a Re:Zero hater. 2nd of all, the dialogue was a cringe fest and plenty of people are complaining about it in this thread so I'm not the only one. 3rd Re:Zero is not a perfect anime so I cringe when I criticize something and have fanboys like you defending it and making assumptions by calling me a "hater" just for criticizing it. |
Feb 8, 2021 5:25 PM
#539
xZabuzax said: Okeanix said: So your criticism is it is "CRINGE". When real life is basically cringe? Everytime Re:Zero haters prove their intelligence. Bravo. First of all, I'm not a Re:Zero hater. 2nd of all, the dialogue was a cringe fest and plenty of people are complaining about it in this thread so I'm not the only one. 3rd Re:Zero is not a perfect anime so I cringe when I criticize something and have fanboys like you defending it and making assumptions by calling me a "hater" just for criticizing it. Technically Re:Zero doesn't have any flaws in script so it is perfect anime yeah. |
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Feb 8, 2021 5:25 PM
#540
xZabuzax said: Gilgameshuu said: You expect two teenage idiots to have a mature conversation? That would actually feel MUCH more forced when compared to their actual conversation here which is them just letting out all their feelings and emotions without thinking. They don't need to have a mature converesation but they don't need to be so cheesy about it either, is like the author wanted to use the cheesiest way possible to deliver the dialogue and that doesn't fly well with me, if the dialogue was less cheesy and a bit more natural I would be ok with it. Every time Emilia asked a question Subaru avoided the question and started simping the hell out of it really hard, it was obnoxious to watch for me. I know that's how the author wanted to deliver that message so congratulations, you delivered the message well by having a lot of watchers cringe in it. Is the same thing that happened with Subaru in the middle of season 1, pure cringefest on Subaru's part, that's how the author wanted him to be so congratulations, that's how you wanted Subaru to be and plenty of people got annoyed and cringed with him. What I'm trying to say is that those cringe moments could've been reduced and maybe we wouldn't cringe so much in it. I really don't care if they try to act "natural" or whatever, if it's a cringefest then it's a cringefest no matter how you sugar coat it. I'm not trying to sugarcoat it, I understand you found it cringe, I understand why people can find it cringe. But no matter how cringe it was, their conversation was as natural as it could get. |
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Feb 8, 2021 5:35 PM
#541
Okeanix said: Technically Re:Zero doesn't have any flaws in script so it is perfect anime yeah. Ughh, no, that's not how it works, a "perfect" anime or script doesn't exist because it's subjective. It may be perfect for you but it's not perfect to another person so your argument is invalid and I won't waste more time in it. Anyway, even if the script tries to be perfect the anime can have other things that makes the anime "not" perfect like bad voice acting, bad OST, etc... not saying that this anime has a bad OST though, the OST is great. Gilgameshuu said: I'm not trying to sugarcoat it, I understand you found it cringe, I understand why people can find it cringe. But no matter how cringe it was, their conversation was as natural as it could get. The thing is, no matter how "natural" it is a lot of people will still cringe in it so this is something the author needs to be aware off, with a bit less cringe it would be a win-win situation for both sides because people like you would still like it and people like me will like it as well but if it's too cringy then only people like you will like it. Either way, I didn't find that scene to be "natural" in any way shape or form. |
xZabuzaxFeb 8, 2021 6:22 PM
Feb 9, 2021 12:02 AM
#542
So this episode only contains I Love You? it's not bad but it's too lame and exaggerated. It begins with the merchant's past, the merchant named Otto. For some reason, Otto's past was lucky because Otto was only kidnapped. What was the real reason Bettlegeus strangled Otto? Was it because of his divine ability? Besides, who was the savior who saved Otto, the adventurer had meant. I thought, Ah this is a boring episode. I always show my cool side so Emilia can love me more, Subaru has got the best flag event so far, and it will be the best event for ReZero. Although not so high that it touched the popularity of the first season's episode 18. I'm so bored with this show tbh, I'm excited to watch this because they always give me surprises when I want to throw this show. I'm still interested in what happened next, will Subaru fight against that Tiger? What happened to Ram, I hope there will be no repeat because they have reached a good event. Besides that, it would be better for Emilia to remember this kind of event, the events of this Sanctuary will continue to what extent. The storyline is very slow but very interesting, and also 10/10 |
Feb 9, 2021 12:07 AM
#543
Congratulations Subaru for making some major progress with Emilia and landing a first kiss. Although my favorite part was Otto's section. It was really interesting to see what it was like to grow up with a "Divine Protection". |
Feb 12, 2021 6:02 PM
#544
Just started watching season 2 part 2 and damn, this episode was very good. One of my favorites. Otto backstory was sad, not being able to hear nothing but weird sounds since a child is truly scary. Glad he was able to control it and use it in Garfield's fight. Nice to see Ram fighting too. And for the big finale we have Subaru and Emilia showing their true feelings a little more. Subaru's speech hit me hard and gave me feelings of Rem's confession back then. Me, as a Rem, fan have to admit that the last part was nothing but great, to the point that I was even rooting for them to kiss. VA did an amazing job as well. 5/5 episode for me. |
Feb 16, 2021 3:15 AM
#545
rakp333 said: Gilgameshuu said: As a source reader, did you think they adapted this episode well? I found it ok. It could have been a lot better. VAs did a great job, but I wasn't impressed by the visuals and directing choices. And they cut a few lines, unfortunately. Plus, I was expecting them to play "Believe in you" during that scene, but they didn't. *sigh* On a positive note, Otto's backstory was well done, in my opinion. As per usual, the stupid light novel/manga readers are complaining l. Could’ve been a lot better? It was one of the best episodes in season 2. The visuals were great tbh and the song they played during the confession fit well. You lot really think you’re on a higher intellectual level than everyone else with the way you nitpick at everything. Just Attack on Titan all over again. |
Feb 16, 2021 3:40 PM
#546
mosam00 said: As per usual, the stupid light novel/manga readers are complaining l. Could’ve been a lot better? It was one of the best episodes in season 2. The visuals were great tbh and the song they played during the confession fit well. You lot really think you’re on a higher intellectual level than everyone else with the way you nitpick at everything. Just Attack on Titan all over again. Yeah. I agree with your broad statement. I'm sorry if you found my old remark to be condescending. However, I request you to relax your confrontational tone. That was just my first impression, and I have now deleted that old comment. I believe I was overcritical at that time, and a couple of re-watches helped me change my opinion. I think the insert song ("Door" by Emilia's VA) fits the scene very well. Regardless, I still believe that the source material is much better and is the best way to experience the story. It is the consensus for the entirety of Season 2/Arc4, not just this scene in particular. Additionally, I should make it clear that I don't blame it on the studio -- the unhealthy industry schedules and the covid pandemic have adversely affected this season's production quality, which is a considerable degradation compared to Season 1. |
rakp333Feb 16, 2021 3:53 PM
Feb 23, 2021 1:58 PM
#547
subaru going beast mode on emilia was so good. then he started simping and had that cringy kiss rip |
Feb 24, 2021 9:11 PM
#548
What an episode, after so many episodes we finally got it! It seems that Garfield is more chill now so i doubt anything big but who knows, i mean, nevermind, it's Garfield we're talking about xD |
Mar 10, 2021 10:50 AM
#549
We finally got Otto's backstory, his childhood and the most powerful events throughout his life. It's as brief as you'd expect it but it doesn't make it any less memorable. Otto truly is a kind-hearted individual, it's a shame that he had to be chased off his own town, his family seemed lovely, especially his older brother. Welp, all that eventually led up to him meeting Subaru, which consequently allowed this ep to go the way it did thanks to Otto's and Ram's help. A reason to believe... In the most difficult of time, a time where Puck is gone and past foreign memories are starting to flood in, it's only natural that Emilia became the messy wreck that she is now. And yet when all she asked was that Subaru was to remain with her throughout the night than finding out that he had left her just as Puck did, there is no other outcome besides grovelling all alone, not believing all of Subaru's simple reason as to why he's been keeping up with her all this time. Honestly, this time with them both arguing over each other and Emilia stubbornly not wanting to believe Subaru, the only way out is for Subaru to prove his love by doing something that is most commonly affiliated with love itself; kissing. And just when that thought passed through my mind, there it is... Subaru kissing Emilia... A sight I never would've thought to see so early on in this 2nd part of S2. At long last, my man Subaru finally got to kiss the girl he's so infatuated with. A historic moment for a guy who has literally sacrificed so much just for this reality to happen. |
Mar 13, 2021 1:35 AM
#550
how is subaru still such a piece of shit. this show keeps on letting their characters flap their gums endlessly about every single minor detail and every emotion they could possibly have and its one of the most annoying watches anime has to offer for me. oh btw there was an obvious mistake at the beginning of the episode where ram was standing in the foreground before the merchant and had some thicc ass purple outer thighs that are clearly not supposed to be there. |
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