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Feb 28, 2021 3:52 PM

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KingCanute said:
act-age had 0 lolis and 0 ecchi, grow up already anime doesn't equal to real life


I mentioned "act-age" author, not "act-age" itself, there's a difference. Molesting/jacking off to an explicitly stated underage child is wrong no matter if it's fiction or IRL by your logic, it's ok to have an anime portraying racial genocide against black people since it doesn't equal to real life.

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Feb 28, 2021 3:53 PM

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Both articles are opinion pieces, and their opinion is as good as any other. Federal law breaks state law, and the official US position (federal level) was codified when the UN tried to ban anime as child porn. I don't tink the California law will hold water if seriously tested at SCOTUS.
In the United States, federal law provides that it is illegal to create, possess, or distribute a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting, that depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene. However, visual depictions (CGI, anime, etc.) where there is not a “real” child are typically protected by the First Amendment (unless the visual depictions are obscene) and the United States’ obligations under the ICCPR.

The EU is even more clear about the question:
In this context, we would like to point out that the definition of child pornography in the more recent EU Directive 2011/93/EU comprises

1. depictions of a real child (Article 2 letter c (i) and (ii)
1. depictions of any person appearing to be a child (Article 2 letter c (iii)
2. realistic images of a child (Article 2 letter c (iv).

As far as drawings and cartoons do not contain realistic images, we do not see the necessity to treat them as child pornography.

Source: https://nichegamer.com/2019/06/03/us-and-japan-reject-united-nations-proposal-to-ban-various-forms-of-anime-manga-and-games/

That's a Canadian case, and like I clearly stated in my posting Canada and Australia are the main exceptions among the Western countries. Both criminalized cartoon depictions as potential form of child pornography. Oh Canada...

The article states they found anime porn along with real cild porn (and false passports). So this guy is not in jail for owning loli pictures, he committed real crimes.

The point is: I completely understand people who are nauseated by even cartoons of child abuse. Just keep definitions clear here. Freedom of art and speech is a high value and deserves the strongest possible protection.

Suggesting anime pornography could be criminal is a bogus claim instantly debunked by looking into legal documents. It's pure FUD to weaponize a sexual orientation, mainly for extremist and populist political purposes.

Feb 28, 2021 3:55 PM

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I don't understand y most people don't like the show because of its MC. He is really a child molester but it's an Anime anyway. I enjoyed watching it.
 
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Futari_no_Ossan said:
KingCanute said:
act-age had 0 lolis and 0 ecchi, grow up already anime doesn't equal to real life


I mentioned "act-age" author, not "act-age" itself, there's a difference. Molesting/jacking off to an explicitly stated underage child is wrong no matter if it's fiction or IRL by your logic, it's ok to have an anime portraying racial genocide against black people since it doesn't equal to real life.

Absolutely flawless thinking my King 🤗

Such mental gymnastics...we aren't talking about promoting violence against any irl group. Maybe your brain is the problem after all. Racism is bad because it harms real people, as far as I (and probably you) know lolis don't.
Feb 28, 2021 4:05 PM

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I actually agree with parts of the review.

I enjoy the anime for the visuals, soundtrack and the overall plot certainly.
The latest episode made me feel disgusted with Rudy, literally a 40 year old man trying to do shit to a 12 year old.
Does watching it make me a pedo? I don't think so, because I dislike the pedo elements of the show.
So I think that's one part that the reviewer fails at.
But is the setting and the MC creepy and pedo as fuck? Totally.
I read the WN a long time ago and dropped it because Rudy never grows up from being a pervert.
But the setting and the world is developed very well, and the anime does a good job with visuals, and soundtrack.
Not their fault that Rudy is a goddamn horndog pedo.
Feb 28, 2021 4:12 PM

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KingCanute said:

Racism is bad because it harms real people, as far as I (and probably you) know lolis don't.


As is sexual molestation of young kids that leaves them with permanent trauma, fact is the MC did attempt it (repeatedly) and that's the issue. Are you not seeing the connection or just simply ignoring it for argument sake?

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Feb 28, 2021 4:17 PM

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Futari_no_Ossan said:
KingCanute said:

Racism is bad because it harms real people, as far as I (and probably you) know lolis don't.
As is sexual molestation of young kids that leaves them with permanent trauma, fact is the MC did attempt it (repeatedly) and that's the issue. Are you not seeing the connection or just simply ignoring it for argument sake?
Traumatized anime lolis, fight for your rights! Oh, you are fictional and have no rights? Bad luck. Oh,your creators and consumers are not fictional and do have rights, such as freedom of speech and art.

Learn to tell between reality and fiction first, then try again.

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It's pretty funny that most of the people who hate the protagonist give it a 1 and disregard all good world building, animation, and pacing.

I mean if you only hate the protagonist atleast don't give it a 1, it already has 1.2% 1 star already, don't give it anymore.

Also it's bullshit to call people a pEdOpHilE just for liking this anime.
Feb 28, 2021 4:46 PM

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inim said:
Traumatized anime lolis, fight for your rights! Oh, you are fictional and have no rights? Bad luck. Oh,your creators and consumers are not fictional and do have rights, such as freedom of speech and art.

Learn to tell between reality and fiction first, then try again.


Nice joke but it seems that you don't quite grasp what I was trying to say before handing out the "teaching"

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Feb 28, 2021 4:51 PM

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This review is absolutely extreme. In no way does it make you a pedophile watching this show. Absolutely absurd.

However, I do agree with a lot of his points. Rudeus is a terrible MC and so far the show has done him no such favours with his pedophilic behaviour. Most of the characters aren't really too memorable as well. (Roxy is still the best character and she barely shows up). A lot of the problematic things in the show are more likely just to pander to certain otaku circles. At the cost of the integrity of the story. Unless if something drastic happens (Which most likely won't happen), I don't see how he supposed to be redeemed.

It's unfortunate too because I think without these elements this show can be a solid and enjoyable Fantasy at best. However, this show ranges from just okay to straight up uncomfortable to watch.
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Futari_no_Ossan said:
inim said:
Traumatized anime lolis, fight for your rights! Oh, you are fictional and have no rights? Bad luck. Oh,your creators and consumers are not fictional and do have rights, such as freedom of speech and art.

Learn to tell between reality and fiction first, then try again.
Nice joke but it seems that you don't quite grasp what I was trying to say before handing out the "teaching"
You didn't write anything that makes sense, because no child is ever molested in a cartoon. I count your continued attempt to blur the line between reality and fiction as an assault on freedom of speech. The same holds for your continued attempt to put your own moral values above the democratically legitimized laws on cartoon pornography and it's full protection by the constitution (USA: except obscenity).

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I like the show and yes its true. Some stuff is straight up unnecessary and having this pervy stuff in the realm of pre teens doesnt actually please me all that much
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inim said:
You didn't write anything that makes sense, because no child is ever molested in a cartoon. I count your continued attempt to blur the line reality and fiction as an assault on freedom of speech. The same holds for your continued attempt to put your own moral values above the democratically legitimized laws on cartoon pornography and it#s full protection by the constitution (USA: except obscenity).


Neither are you and your continued attempt to hold onto your "freedom of speech". You yourself proclaimed that there are countries like Canada in which it's not legitimized lol I never put my moral values on anything so far I even said that Idc what other people use to jack off and I respect whatever fetish they're into, it only becomes a concern of mine only when it affects other people, the very same concept that your beloved "freedom of speech is based on": you can say whatever you want until your speech becomes a problem and affect others. You can read Mein Kampf in your little abode all you want but try to go out on the streets and yell out nazi doctrines and see where that lands you.

It's fine for the MC in this show to think that children are attractive and he keeps it in his head but he actually converts those thoughts into action and that becomes a red flag. Let me reiterate this again: some actions are not ok even if it's fiction, just because no real black people are killed in a racial genocide manga doesn't mean that this type of content is ok. Just because no real child is molested in a manga doesn't mean that it's ok to have its MC being rewarded for his pedophilic tendencies. If your version of freedom of speech were to exist then why don't we have more fictional games that have active child murder in it?

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Futari_no_Ossan said:
"A story about a middle-aged pedophile that is reincarnated in a fantasy world where everything is conveniently set up so he can make all his pedo dreams come true without the legal and moral obstacles of the modern world.

Besides that, the story is the typical generic isekai where the MC is OP with the purpose of making him seem like a cool hero.

The source material is such a filthy story that even after being filtered or "toned down" every time it reached a different medium (LN, manga, anime), you can still see how messed up it is by watching the first episodes.

Here are some typical excuses that are misleading:

"This story is about redemption"
Actually, MC continues his pedo adventures without any remorse and the author rewards him with a loli wives harem. His questionable actions when molesting children are written off as comedy in this show.

"MC isn't a pedophile"
He's sexually obsessed with prepubescent children, that's the literal definition of a pedophile. MC committed a heinous crime against his own little niece (leaving out the details to avoid spoiler). His obsession with little girls will continue to be evident in the fantasy world as well.

"It's just fiction"
That doesn't make it any less disgusting. Would you like a story about a dude with "race supremacy" sick thoughts that is reincarnated in a fantasy world where slavery is alright so he can abuse people as he wished he could in the modern world? And then have that dude live a happy life as an abuser just because the plot says "it's legal in this world"? That's a simple wish fulfillment story with zero narrative value.

"MC has no choice but to be sexually attracted to little girls because he got the body of a child"
6-7 years old children are not into groping little girls like the MC does in this show, so that's actually one example on how the creepy middle-aged dude takes advantage of his child appearance. In any case, remember that this is a work of fiction, so this and any other convenient setting that allows the MC to make his pedo dreams come true (watching naked children, groping them, grooming them, loli wives harem, girls belonging to magical races that look like prepubescent children despite being older, etc), was INTENTIONALLY designed by the author.

Overall, this looks like a disgusting child molestation fantasy story decorated with some generic isekai elements."


Overall, very accurate review a couple additional notes that I'd like to add is that MC keeps making excuses to justify having a harem, like dude if you think harem is wrong then don't do it, just pick your loli teacher and shut off the elf and the redhead then.

He always makes it look like he's a victim being forced into this harem setting. Absolutely nauseous how hypocritical this guy is. Everything is so conveniently set up, author wants 3 chicks so he stops the harem at 3 lol

You'd think that for an ugly loser to be reborn into a handsome Chad with OP magical power, he'd strive to become a decent person with his 2nd chance at life but no, still back to being a creep

Absolutely pathetic character with no desire to improve himself, perpetuating the escapism isekai trend of "taking it easy", "having no ambition", and "being chill" like what's the point of watching a MC with no defined goal or purpose in a story? If someone has that weak mentality then no matter how many times he/she is reborn that person will end up exactly where he/she was in the OG world... or maybe not since all those isekai MCs all have convenient PLOT ARMOR and super OP abilities that negate their weak mindset and the lack of spine


yeah that show is really bad appealing only to the weird gross anime fans
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its a shitty isekai harem who cares?
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BetaMaleUltra said:
We get it... it's messed up. Welcome to anime. Don't have to overanalyze everything...

People like this need to write some reviews for anime like highschool dxd. Now that would be some good shit. "the mc is very inappropriate and likes to touch bewbies" wait what really? Now I can't watch it anymore because it really made me NOT want to watch it. Dangit, guess I'll try to find some PG anime then. sigh


Yeah but everyone knows ecchi anime are gonna include that, so they avoid them. Sorry that normal people dont weird shit in their shows ruining the entertainment. I would totally write a review for shows like dxd and to love ru because they are disgusting too
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Futari_no_Ossan said:
inim said:
You didn't write anything that makes sense, because no child is ever molested in a cartoon. I count your continued attempt to blur the line reality and fiction as an assault on freedom of speech. The same holds for your continued attempt to put your own moral values above the democratically legitimized laws on cartoon pornography and it#s full protection by the constitution (USA: except obscenity).
I never put my moral values on anything so far I even said that Idc what other people use to jack off and I respect whatever fetish they're into, it only becomes a concern of mine only when it affects other people
Look, the tag section on your average hentai site is one big crime scene. Depicting illegal things is bread and butter of the anime, movie and print industry. You obviously consider heavily sexualized rape, mutilation, torture, murder, kidnapping, violent assault, bestiality and so on to be perfectly fine. Which they all are in fiction. Of course they are access restricted for minors, we talk adults here. But otherwise perfectly fine expressions of free speech, aka fiction. The point I fail to understand is why select perversions you personally dislike should all in a sudden be treated differently from those you approve. Nobody forces you to consume media content you dislike.
Futari_no_Ossan said:
You can read Mein Kampf in your little abode all you want but try to go out on the streets and yell out nazi doctrines and see where that lands you.
In the USA, no legal problem at all. Nazi propaganda is fully covered by the first amendment. Your point?
Futari_no_Ossan said:
It's fine for the MC in this show to think that children are attractive and he keeps it in his head but he actually converts those thoughts into action and that becomes a red flag. Let me reiterate this again: some actions are not ok even if it's fiction,
What part of "fully protected by the constitution" is the one you do not understand? Because fully includes the parts you don't like and which your moral values do not cover. Rosa Luxemburgh defined freedom like this: Freedom always means the freedoms of those who think different than myself. Adults can't tell adults what they have to think and like. The exception is when there are victims, but cartoon characters can not be victims. They are not real.
Futari_no_Ossan said:
just because no real black people are killed in a racial genocide manga doesn't mean that this type of content is ok.
And once again you use your own morals to declare things "OK", which is void of any legal meaning. Of course it's legal to fantasize about genocide on black people and other groups. The Turner Diaries and Mein Kampf can be purchased legally in your country, can't they?
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BetaMaleUltra said:
We get it... it's messed up. Welcome to anime. Don't have to overanalyze everything...

People like this need to write some reviews for anime like highschool dxd. Now that would be some good shit. "the mc is very inappropriate and likes to touch bewbies" wait what really? Now I can't watch it anymore because it really made me NOT want to watch it. Dangit, guess I'll try to find some PG anime then. sigh


Yeah but everyone knows ecchi anime are gonna include that, so they avoid them. Sorry that normal people dont weird shit in their shows ruining the entertainment. I would totally write a review for shows like dxd and to love ru because they are disgusting too


Good point actually. Too bad an ecchi tag wasn’t included on this so that sensitive people could steer clear of this and complain elsewhere


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Welcome to the Internet bud.

As long as it's not a Battle Shounen with a MC that is screaming 50 minutes per ep's it's bad.

Best thing is just to ignor them or report the review.

People have trash taste and it's rather sad every time I see someone complaining over Loli's.
Why do you ignor the real life children that needs help, but you can waste hour of your time on calling people on the internet pedos.

It's some great logic Internet-chan has.

Rather sure they can't even count to 5, sadly.

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BetaMaleUltra said:
SparkingVolt said:


Yeah but everyone knows ecchi anime are gonna include that, so they avoid them. Sorry that normal people dont weird shit in their shows ruining the entertainment. I would totally write a review for shows like dxd and to love ru because they are disgusting too


Good point actually. Too bad an ecchi tag wasn’t included on this so that sensitive people could steer clear of this and complain elsewhere


I wouldn’t call them sensitive though, most people in this world would be bothered by the content in this show. it isnt an ecchi but its still a weird story that appeals to people that are just as weird. Only in anime will you find this shit!!! But anyway i dont think people are wrong to like this show its whatever but its just annoying when anime fans get so offended when someone dislikes an anime for good reasons, it isnt them being a “snowflake” its just being a human being capable of being disturbed by things that are very disturbing to the majority of people that live on this earth today.
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The flas is undeniably there, but to say the show is about this specific flaw is just being biased. He contradicts himself on saying the show is about pedophilia while also showing that the story only uses this as comic relief.

Personally, those stuff do bother me, but they don't make me falsely says this is all the story does. Objectively speaking, this flaw only makes the show not achieve the level it was supposed to achieve. Same thing happened with Monogatari Season 2 and Kizumonogatari III, where this exact problem forbid the entry to be above an 8/10.
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I mean its technically right, I also don't really like the main character but I feel like a proper review should be balanced but this review only calls out it's flaws. Musoku Tensei has a amazing world which is one pro of the show. So I guess it should make it more balanced but don't take my word though, I haven't made any review yet.
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The human being is not configured to capture the truth with his eyes, but to project an idea of ​​what he sees. If we look at the world through a camera or a satellite, that camera is not created to show us the true shape of the world, but to project the world in the same way that humans perceive it.

Now, if we take this man's review as an example, I find it respectable that he also kept the idea of ​​subjectivity. As soon as he says, in short to the claim of the review, that "whoever enjoys this is a pedophile" is when he is giving his point of view in real disguise.

I have barely seen an episode of the anime discussed. I recently discovered that I am bad at following anime on air. However, I have seen other posts on this forum that say that this anime is truly about redemption or that it is not an anime for pedophiles to satisfy.

In what I can conclude is that he is only a weak person of persistence who fell before the contempt of the series when watching a scene that can be considered pedophile.

I have consumed manga and anime that are not for weak people, which include rape and mutilation with girls. However, I also know how to appreciate these works from the side of the use of their avant-garde. I have heard people calling such works "the worst I have ever experienced", but, in the end, I do not care about it and I can have understanding with people who dislike them to the fullest extent something that has fascinated me.

It is an unconsciously subjective review like any other that tries to be objective. This person believes they have the truth and disproves "myths" as if other people's projections could not be taken into account.
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SparkingVolt said:
BetaMaleUltra said:


Good point actually. Too bad an ecchi tag wasn’t included on this so that sensitive people could steer clear of this and complain elsewhere


I wouldn’t call them sensitive though, most people in this world would be bothered by the content in this show. it isnt an ecchi but its still a weird story that appeals to people that are just as weird. Only in anime will you find this shit!!! But anyway i dont think people are wrong to like this show its whatever but its just annoying when anime fans get so offended when someone dislikes an anime for good reasons, it isnt them being a “snowflake” its just being a human being capable of being disturbed by things that are very disturbing to the majority of people that live on this earth today.


You’re totally right, I do think most people are going to be bothered by this show, myself included. What I meant was that I was not sensitive enough to just stop watching the show completely and to judge it just based on the ugly bastard character and what he does. I got past that and looked at and enjoyed the anime as a whole.

Is what is basically a grown man feeling up a young girl messed up? Of course it is, everyone will agree on that. But what everyone will not agree on is that it’s enough to justify criticism just based on that single aspect without taking into account everything else that the anime does so right.

I’m glad that we can agree that it’s fine to either like the show, or to not like it, as long as we can both acknowledge that certain aspects are indeed weird. I’m not going to think any less of someone who doesn’t like the show because of rudeus, that’s up to them and it’s totally fine. But if they’re going to call the entire anime trash just because of a few scenes where the mc does unacceptable things, then that hurts me a bit. I’d just prefer to have less reviews so short sighted and narrow minded.

Don’t think that because we like this anime that we condone such behaviour. Yeah it’s wrong, but then again, it’s anime, grow some balls or go home, and just enjoy the anime as whole without just picking apart one single aspect of it. Or just don’t watch it, state your opinion, and watch some more family friendly anime


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Positive or negative, reviews sucks. Whoever decides to watch an anime or not because of them should stop watching anime.
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Gosh , why everyone only cares about his action , but never see his background? I'm tired with this hypocrite society
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Something's not right in this thread... several arguments are being made based on what seems to be a misunderstanding, maybe because some people are not aware that the quoted review is only the bolded part?

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As soon as he says that "whoever enjoys this is a pedophile"

where exactly is that?
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skysurf said:
Something's not right in this thread... several arguments are being made based on what seems to be a misunderstanding, maybe because some people are not aware that the quoted review is only the bolded part?

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As soon as he says that "whoever enjoys this is a pedophile"

where exactly is that?


He does not say it literally, it is a summary of what he intends with such a persistent review with the aim of making everyone believe that the work is sordid and has nothing other than his service with pedophilia.
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Sounds like a ranting more than a review lol.
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Nobody forces you to consume media content you dislike.


Thus I dropped it. Your point is?

In the USA, no legal problem at all. Nazi propaganda is fully covered by the first amendment. Your point?


USA =/= the world. You're welcome

Of course it's legal to fantasize about genocide on black people and other groups. The Turner Diaries and Mein Kampf can be purchased legally in your country, can't they?




Ok dude whatever you said lol

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EyeViewer said:
skysurf said:
Something's not right in this thread... several arguments are being made based on what seems to be a misunderstanding, maybe because some people are not aware that the quoted review is only the bolded part?


where exactly is that?


He does not say it literally, it is a summary of what he intends with such a persistent review with the aim of making everyone believe that the work is sordid and has nothing other than his service with pedophilia.


Sure, but even if that's the overall opinion in the review about the show, isn't it stretching things a bit too much to interpret it as you said? Like reviewing a movie saying "this movie is just boredom", and someone who liked it taking things too personal saying "why are you calling me a boring person?"... see what I mean?

I just feel like there was some unnecessary drama because some people took things too personal, or maybe because they thought the additional comments made by op here were part of the same review.

Anyway, I agree with you that reviews are inherently subjective, so kinda pointless to expect otherwise.
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skysurf said:
EyeViewer said:


He does not say it literally, it is a summary of what he intends with such a persistent review with the aim of making everyone believe that the work is sordid and has nothing other than his service with pedophilia.


Sure, but even if that's the overall opinion in the review about the show, isn't it stretching things a bit too much to interpret it as you said? Like reviewing a movie saying "this movie is just boredom", and someone who liked it taking things too personal saying "why are you calling me a boring person?"... see what I mean?

I just feel like there was some unnecessary drama because some people took things too personal, or maybe because they thought the additional comments made by op here were part of the same review.

Anyway, I agree with you that reviews are inherently subjective, so kinda pointless to expect otherwise.


Sure, the review doesn't just fail to be very deceptively subjective. It is quite quizzical and forgets to take into account the other aspects of the series that it surely has.

And, as for the forum, I don't know what the nature of many of its posts is as I don't have much time to read long posts and long reply threads. Still I know that people who give biased opinions are to be expected. The problem is not when people are not objective, but when they speak believing they have the absolute truth and giving the expectation that they are forcing others to believe in the same thing. I have no problem with reviews that make a personal experience clear.

And as for the difference of the review and the opinion of who created the thread. I know who created the thread abandoned the anime, but at least it does not force anyone to believe in the same, here it says "give your opinion of this review". If people are trying to put out the fire with fire I guess it's because they think the creator of the thread is putting on a flashy display of the review or something like that.
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skysurf said:


Sure, but even if that's the overall opinion in the review about the show, isn't it stretching things a bit too much to interpret it as you said? Like reviewing a movie saying "this movie is just boredom", and someone who liked it taking things too personal saying "why are you calling me a boring person?"... see what I mean?

I just feel like there was some unnecessary drama because some people took things too personal, or maybe because they thought the additional comments made by op here were part of the same review.

Anyway, I agree with you that reviews are inherently subjective, so kinda pointless to expect otherwise.


Sure, the review doesn't just fail to be very deceptively subjective. It is quite quizzical and forgets to take into account the other aspects of the series that it surely has.

And, as for the forum, I don't know what the nature of many of its posts is as I don't have much time to read long posts and long reply threads. Still I know that people who give biased opinions are to be expected. The problem is not when people are not objective, but when they speak believing they have the absolute truth and giving the expectation that they are forcing others to believe in the same thing. I have no problem with reviews that make a personal experience clear.

And as for the difference of the review and the opinion of who created the thread. I know who created the thread abandoned the anime, but at least it does not force anyone to believe in the same, here it says "give your opinion of this review". If people are trying to put out the fire with fire I guess it's because they think the creator of the thread is putting on a flashy display of the review or something like that.
Fyi the one who made the bolded review is skysurf.
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Racism is bad because it harms real people, as far as I (and probably you) know lolis don't.


As is sexual molestation of young kids that leaves them with permanent trauma, fact is the MC did attempt it (repeatedly) and that's the issue. Are you not seeing the connection or just simply ignoring it for argument sake?
the connection between a fictional character and real world issues? In my head at last they are two different things. As I said maybe you are the problem.
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Ignoring any stances one may have on the show, this isn't really a good review, and is more of a the quality of a rant you would find someone make on a social media platform such as twitter, reddit ,tumblr etc.

The review itself is just the person ranting about how much that they hate the main character and accusing anybody of liking the show a pedophile/supporting pedophilia while ignoring others aspects of the show to critic such as the plot, characters, art and animation, its like if I made a review of Inuyasha and all I wrote was That Kagome is an annoying bitch who constantly physically abuses Inuyasha with the sit command, and anyone who likes it is a misandrist who supports abuse.

It also doesn't help this is supposed to be an analysis of the entire series when the first half this this shows season isn't even finished yet.

Off topic but can we please stop with the whole pedophilia controversy with this show now, the whole debate from both sides is becoming annoying, and I'm sure we all have much better things to do than argue about some Chinese cartoon.

youre damn right on the review being a rant, instead of more proper review
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Ezmel said:
Ignoring any stances one may have on the show, this isn't really a good review, and is more of a the quality of a rant you would find someone make on a social media platform such as twitter, reddit ,tumblr etc.

The review itself is just the person ranting about how much that they hate the main character and accusing anybody of liking the show a pedophile/supporting pedophilia while ignoring others aspects of the show to critic such as the plot, characters, art and animation, its like if I made a review of Inuyasha and all I wrote was That Kagome is an annoying bitch who constantly physically abuses Inuyasha with the sit command, and anyone who likes it is a misandrist who supports abuse.

It also doesn't help this is supposed to be an analysis of the entire series when the first half this this shows season isn't even finished yet.

Off topic but can we please stop with the whole pedophilia controversy with this show now, the whole debate from both sides is becoming annoying, and I'm sure we all have much better things to do than argue about some Chinese cartoon.

youre damn right on the review being a rant, instead of more proper review


Yeah it’s not even a review.

His first review of the show, he did call everyone that watches or defend the show “pedophiles”.

He deleted that part when I called him out on it on another thread.
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This shit is hilarious, every point of this review is so exaggerated that i wonder are we even watching the same show? Oh yeah I forgot you haven't read the novel, yeah from anime onlies perspective they often refuse waiting the story to develops and instead immediately pull out a conclusion out of the first few eps.

For example:

"Besides that, the story is the typical generic isekai where the MC is OP with the purpose of making him seem like a cool hero"

You know nothing about shit lmao
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Great review. Touched my soul and made me change my entire opinion on this show and i learned that i was a pedophile for liking it.

"Besides that, the story is the typical generic isekai where the MC is OP with the purpose of making him seem like a cool hero"
You know Rudeus is an amazing hero and op when web novel spoilers
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Garbage, like most Redo of Healer reviews, and reviews in general.
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Have we now come full circle, with the jerking?
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just another oversensitive moralfag focusing on one aspect of the anime instead of a show as a whole, nothing interesting to see here
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I dont understand how is this accurate unless if you're exaggerating
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Missing more stuff to talk about besides the main character and his mental problems, but other than that I find it very accurate as an anime only.
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I don't think the story is anywhere as good as its fanboys are implying, but I don't really think this is a valid review, rather just criticizing the MC, which I guess could be PART of a review, but at this point it's incomplete. It could also do without it being written as a counterargument. I think reviews are valuable when you know who's writing it, for example if it's someone who's watched and read a shitton of fantasy stories and and is super critical of them, barely rated any above 6, then in his review he rates something a 9, you'd probably be thinking "oh shit, this show/novel/etc likely has something good/special about it", that's what I think anyway.
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From the point of view of somebody who hasn't watched the show, there's nothing fundamentally wrong. It's a review that focuses on counterarguments to common arguments to defend the show, and it's doing so by being disrespectful only to the series and not to the audience, which is like, actually refreshing. If you watch the show and have different conclusions or think this review is saying stuff that is blatantly false, then it's another thing. But those of you getting hurt personally are probably just looking for it, because nowhere in the text it says or implies that the fans are pedos.
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mildly interesting Mushoku Tensei review
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inim said:
Nobody forces you to consume media content you dislike.
Thus I dropped it. Your point is?
My point is that did not just drop i. You went on with a rant bordering hate speech (hiding behind a quote). You slandered people who disagree with you. You spread objectively false claims about legal and medical facts. You assaulted the freedom rights granted by most Western constitutions.

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My point is that did not just drop i. You went on with a rant bordering hate speech (hiding behind a quote). You slandered people who disagree with you. You spread objectively false claims about legal and medical facts. You assaulted the freedom rights granted by most Western constitutions.


Aight bud see you in court then, sue me!

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