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| Woah, I would totally like this if my IQ was 42 or lower. |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| ^ yep, thats exactly what i think shu's void is and what it can do, he doesn't really need the "power of kings" anymore now that he has drawn out his own void that can copy other peoples voids without putting their "heart" or life on the line which is waay more superior to the "power of kings", but it also means his life is constantly going to be in danger because if his arm is destroyed in battle he will die BUT it hasn't really been confirmed just yet, we will have to wait for more episodes to know his voids limits and what it can really do |
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| *All endlaves focus attack on Shu's right hand !!* G_G Shu... xD Would the arm now stay there permentently, if the arm is his void how will he let it go? xDD Cant wait for a Shu v Gai showdown, *hopefully* |
Edob0b said: Cian13th said: Great episode. I was right that he was getting the 3rd and final genome. Ayase's change of heart like Kallen. Zero to Lelouch ; Gai to Shu in a way. His void makes perfect sense considering his character now. The power to carry the burden of others, a true king just like when he carried the burden of being hated as a "tyrant" when clearly he was doing it for the sake of the people. Loving the current Shu. Can't wait for Gai vs Shu battle. Arisa still needs to die, ASAP. Her character just doesn't belong anymore. She's poorly done. I still hate Souta. Haruka can look like Shu's lover. Oh mai gawd. She doesn't even look like a mother. Mad scientist guy dies happy. Wheres the 2nd genome/void user? What's he planning? Who's the final boss? Gai?Mana?2nd Void/genome user guy? Someone's arc is going to end and someone's going to get carried in the 2nd season. What about the United Nation thingy? Obviously Shu isn't going to die. Prediction : Shu will take Gai's void. Gai's void is the power to resurrect or renew yourself. Considering he was reborn I'd assume that's what it is. Gai turns good or self sacrifice in the end and Shu will survive....or something along the lines. Anyway, awesome episode. We need moar action scenes! How you for certain Shu's not going to die eh? :P What happened in Code Geass? wink wink ^^ Hmm tbh i think it would be somefin like Shu kill that Blonde Kid, Kill Gai, stupid death for mad scientist. And then Inori's void changes into a revival thing of some sort? It was mentioned in like episode 8/9 that voids can change, havent seen any1's void change yet ? Oh psh. It's not really confirmed if lulu did die in CG. It's an open ended ending left for the fans. IMO he lived since the taking of Charles' code, C.C.'s wish, and the ending remark. But that's just me. Besides the way the anime is going I wouldn't be surprised if some holy power came down reining on earth saves him. I also think that Shu's void may have changed overtime indirectly. It's true that we've only seen his void for the first time but considering who he was at the beginning compared to now, I'm pretty sure his void changed. |
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Cian13th said: Edob0b said: Cian13th said: Great episode. I was right that he was getting the 3rd and final genome. Ayase's change of heart like Kallen. Zero to Lelouch ; Gai to Shu in a way. His void makes perfect sense considering his character now. The power to carry the burden of others, a true king just like when he carried the burden of being hated as a "tyrant" when clearly he was doing it for the sake of the people. Loving the current Shu. Can't wait for Gai vs Shu battle. Arisa still needs to die, ASAP. Her character just doesn't belong anymore. She's poorly done. I still hate Souta. Haruka can look like Shu's lover. Oh mai gawd. She doesn't even look like a mother. Mad scientist guy dies happy. Wheres the 2nd genome/void user? What's he planning? Who's the final boss? Gai?Mana?2nd Void/genome user guy? Someone's arc is going to end and someone's going to get carried in the 2nd season. What about the United Nation thingy? Obviously Shu isn't going to die. Prediction : Shu will take Gai's void. Gai's void is the power to resurrect or renew yourself. Considering he was reborn I'd assume that's what it is. Gai turns good or self sacrifice in the end and Shu will survive....or something along the lines. Anyway, awesome episode. We need moar action scenes! How you for certain Shu's not going to die eh? :P What happened in Code Geass? wink wink ^^ Hmm tbh i think it would be somefin like Shu kill that Blonde Kid, Kill Gai, stupid death for mad scientist. And then Inori's void changes into a revival thing of some sort? It was mentioned in like episode 8/9 that voids can change, havent seen any1's void change yet ? Oh psh. It's not really confirmed if lulu did die in CG. It's an open ended ending left for the fans. IMO he lived since the taking of Charles' code, C.C.'s wish, and the ending remark. But that's just me. Besides the way the anime is going I wouldn't be surprised if some holy power came down reining on earth saves him. I also think that Shu's void may have changed overtime indirectly. It's true that we've only seen his void for the first time but considering who he was at the beginning compared to now, I'm pretty sure his void changed. But lelouch.. Anyway sry for going off topic with CG!! Ye im kinda hoping for a dramatic change in a void that we are used to, if u are correct i would be quite dissappoint. Then again its Guilty Crown aye? xD |
AceIII said: Why was Segai standing like an idiot infront of Shu with a gun and let him talk forever and inject the void genom? Shoot him you dumbass ! .. But I guess the show will be over lol. I lost how many facepalm moments GC had till now. Still its a little bit better in the last couple of episodes but overall the anime is a piece of s**t. While Segai wanted the Genome for himself. He all but worshiped Shu and Shu's use of the Void Genome. I remember his reaction to seeing Shu drawing out Inori's Void in episode 4. It was interesting to see his reaction to seeing Gai draw a void. It just wasn't right. So when Shu arrived and picked up the Void Genome, Segai let him use it. Wanted Shu to have it, to use it. Thats why he waited, before ordering the Endlaves to attack Shu. Because, Shu using the Void Genome, gave him what he wanted to see. Segai died happy. Insane, but happy. Experiencing the death at the end of Yahiro's void. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Edob0b said: Not really...But lelouch.. Anyway sry for going off topic with CG!! Ye im kinda hoping for a dramatic change in a void that we are used to, if u are correct i would be quite dissappoint. Then again its Guilty Crown aye? xD |
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Leon-Gun said: Edob0b said: Not really...But lelouch.. Anyway sry for going off topic with CG!! Ye im kinda hoping for a dramatic change in a void that we are used to, if u are correct i would be quite dissappoint. Then again its Guilty Crown aye? xD What he said xP. Well it's possible a dramatic change might happen during the fight between Gai vs Shu since we've yet to see and actual change in void forms. |
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| Here's a question. Where is Mana? Haruka broke into that chamber to Kill her. But Mana wasn't there. Keido told Haruka that Mana has never been there. So, is she in another Chamber? In another Building? In another Void World like before? Or Is she already in Inori? |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
| Am i the only one who's starting to think that half of Mana is into Gai (his covered eye) and the other half on Inori? |
| BEST EPISODE of the (so-far released) 19 episodes. FINALLY it's heating up and the badass we all wanted for Shu to be has come :D |
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Articman said: It's quite heavilyimplied Mana managed to get into Inori in some degree. Now whether her physical body is in her or not it's a different matter. Heck, I was pretty certain they had established the "Mana is not truly existing physically" part for half the season now. They even entered a separate plane of existence and created a new body (Inori) so obviously I have no idea why they doubled down and went for the "where's MANA !" plot point again.Here's a question. Where is Mana? Haruka broke into that chamber to Kill her. But Mana wasn't there. Keido told Haruka that Mana has never been there. So, is she in another Chamber? In another Building? In another Void World like before? Or Is she already in Inori? |
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Leon-Gun said: Articman said: Here's a question. Where is Mana? Haruka broke into that chamber to Kill her. But Mana wasn't there. Keido told Haruka that Mana has never been there. So, is she in another Chamber? In another Building? In another Void World like before? Or Is she already in Inori? It's quite heavilyimplied Mana managed to get into Inori in some degree. Now whether her physical body is in her or not it's a different matter. Heck, I was pretty certain they had established the "Mana is not truly existing physically" part for half the season now. They even entered a separate plane of existence and created a new body (Inori) so obviously I have no idea why they doubled down and went for the "where's MANA !" plot point again. Mana has always in Inori to some extent. She was aware of Shu through Inori. In Episode 1, when Shu recieved the Void Genome, Inori asked him to use her. But Mana told Shu that this was power, the Guilty Crown given form. In Episode 6, Mana spoke to Shu, asking if he wanted to save everyone, to save Gai. She then merged the voids, giving him the Wave Motion Sword to destroy the Luekocytes. saving the Day. Since episode 12, Mana has been surfacing in Inori more and more. Leading up to that coversation in Episode 18, where Mana tells Inori to return to her, before she hurts Shu. If they were bringing back Gai, then they had to bring back Mana too. After all the disappeared together. In each other's arms. Besides, Mana is the Queen, the key to bringing about the new Human Race. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Lieila said: Mana wants to fuck his brother (regardless of blood link or not) so why not. And did they ever state Mana was Haruka's kid for that matter.What the...Haruka and Koudou are siblings? Then that made Mana the niece of Koudou, right? He married his niece. What the... |
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| Damn... It was about time for Shu to reveal his void. Awesome episode... I'm rethinking whether to raise the score again or not. |
Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following,  is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. |
rawrx3itslynnMar 4, 2012 4:00 AM
| Great ep, I guess its only right for Shu's void to be the void pulling arm that he lost. When I saw Shu with the virus, the first thing that came to my mind was him dying from it, like he sacrifices himself and takes everyone elses cancer onto himself. Hopefully thats not the case though , Inori can still sing it away. |
Leon-Gun said: She could've been born via in vitro fertilization for all we know. Hahaha. Kurosu was a scientist after all. It wouldn't be a total twist, with her pink hair and all.Lieila said: Mana wants to fuck his brother (regardless of blood link or not) so why not. And did they ever state Mana was Haruka's kid for that matter.What the...Haruka and Koudou are siblings? Then that made Mana the niece of Koudou, right? He married his niece. What the... |
Tachii said: She only told the whole "Shuu's not my kid" thing now because Mana is basically "dead" to them (and the current Mana would be just something else entirely) but the way she treated BOTH (not just Shu) in most of the story basically screamed that she wasn't really their mother. She was just awkward with them.Leon-Gun said: She could've been born via in vitro fertilization for all we know. Hahaha. Kurosu was a scientist after all. It wouldn't be a total twist, with her pink hair and all.Lieila said: Mana wants to fuck his brother (regardless of blood link or not) so why not. And did they ever state Mana was Haruka's kid for that matter.What the...Haruka and Koudou are siblings? Then that made Mana the niece of Koudou, right? He married his niece. What the... |
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Leon-Gun said: Tachii said: She only told the whole "Shuu's not my kid" thing now because Mana is basically "dead" to them (and the current Mana would be just something else entirely) but the way she treated BOTH (not just Shu) in most of the story basically screamed that she wasn't really their mother. She was just awkward with them.Leon-Gun said: She could've been born via in vitro fertilization for all we know. Hahaha. Kurosu was a scientist after all. It wouldn't be a total twist, with her pink hair and all.Lieila said: Mana wants to fuck his brother (regardless of blood link or not) so why not. And did they ever state Mana was Haruka's kid for that matter.What the...Haruka and Koudou are siblings? Then that made Mana the niece of Koudou, right? He married his niece. What the... The photographs, Shu's, Gai's and Haruka's own flashbacks showed that Haruka spent alot of time with the Kids during the summer before Lost Christmas. We'll probably learn more about this in the next episode. I'm interested in her, 'I remarried Kurosu' comment in this episode. Maybe it's a miss translation, but it sounded like she had been married before. If this is the case, it could be possible that Mana is her child and not Kurosu's. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Articman said: Leon-Gun said: Tachii said: She only told the whole "Shuu's not my kid" thing now because Mana is basically "dead" to them (and the current Mana would be just something else entirely) but the way she treated BOTH (not just Shu) in most of the story basically screamed that she wasn't really their mother. She was just awkward with them.Leon-Gun said: She could've been born via in vitro fertilization for all we know. Hahaha. Kurosu was a scientist after all. It wouldn't be a total twist, with her pink hair and all.Lieila said: Mana wants to fuck his brother (regardless of blood link or not) so why not. And did they ever state Mana was Haruka's kid for that matter.What the...Haruka and Koudou are siblings? Then that made Mana the niece of Koudou, right? He married his niece. What the... The photographs, Shu's, Gai's and Haruka's own flashbacks showed that Haruka spent alot of time with the Kids during the summer before Lost Christmas. We'll probably learn more about this in the next episode. I'm interested in her, 'I remarried Kurosu' comment in this episode. Maybe it's a miss translation, but it sounded like she had been married before. If this is the case, it could be possible that Mana is her child and not Kurosu's. I have a feeling that Mana isn't even related to Haruka or Kurosu. This is because I noticed that in this episode, in Haruka's flashbacks, Mana wasn't even there. |
Silverfang18 said: Articman said: The photographs, Shu's, Gai's and Haruka's own flashbacks showed that Haruka spent alot of time with the Kids during the summer before Lost Christmas. We'll probably learn more about this in the next episode. I'm interested in her, 'I remarried Kurosu' comment in this episode. Maybe it's a miss translation, but it sounded like she had been married before. If this is the case, it could be possible that Mana is her child and not Kurosu's. I have a feeling that Mana isn't even related to Haruka or Kurosu. This is because I noticed that in this episode, in Haruka's flashbacks, Mana wasn't even there. Part of this could be that the fact that Haruka and Shu were reflecting upon their time together, post Lost Christmas, post Kurosu's Death. How they only had each other to hold on to. In the years following Lost Christmas. I wouldn't be suprised to find out that Kurosu adopted Mana. There are some images in the flashbacks of a plane? wreckage. Supose that Mana was a survivor of that Plane Crash and Kurosu and his late wife adopted her. Trouble is, we have not been given a clear timeline about the Apocalyspe Virus. How and when it arrived? How long was Mana infected with it before Lost Christmas? How long were Kurosu and Keido researching it before Lost Christmas? I'm really hoping to get most of these questions answered in episode 20. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
rawrx3itslynn said: Yeah totally then, but this one is the most direct one I find. Now no one can even deny no reference even if the other ones were missed out. 90% of people know a cross and what it could be for more than notations through speech. Visuals are sometimes everything. Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following, is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. That being said the mix seems to be a central theme of too much due to this series having other elements that just don't ring good together but they are innovative. Genetics+Religion. That's what is interesting in the religions you mention. I will leave it at that to see what you think of it. |
| OK i have no idea on wut ppl r expecting from this anime, but srsly wut's with all the hate? |
| Never ignore a person who loves you, cares for you, and misses you. Because one day, you might wake up from your sleep and realize that you lost the moon while counting the stars. |
| After the last episode I thought this was going to fail big time. Thank Eru Iluvatar I was wrong!! |
| Dat face... I lol'd. Still, awesome episode. Man, Shu was badass! |
Yumekichi11 said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yeah totally then, but this one is the most direct one I find. Now no one can even deny no reference even if the other ones were missed out. 90% of people know a cross and what it could be for more than notations through speech. Visuals are sometimes everything. Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following, is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. That being said the mix seems to be a central theme of too much due to this series having other elements that just don't ring good together but they are innovative. Genetics+Religion. That's what is interesting in the religions you mention. I will leave it at that to see what you think of it. Prior to reading your post last night, the religious connotations in the show didn't really register in my head. I was aware, but unaware of them at the same time, so yes, visuals > oral. Found more examples of religious reference, the "Sephirah Genomics" (comes from the Sephirot of Judaism) and the Apocalypse Virus, which references the Book of Revelations from the Christian Bible. Even the name "Funeral Parlor" speaks about death and the church. I would also like to add how each of the religions mentioned all begin the same with little variations, but each vary in the end. What I found interesting is how they keep trying to come back to the age-old Social Darwinism theory of science v. nature, which are genetics and religion in a different context respectively. Altering genetics, creation of race, "God" (although not explicitly stated) empowering those in charge, etc. I would also like to point out that Power and Politics (Manipulation, realpoitik, divine rights of kings, etc. ) are also big themes in the show. |
rawrx3itslynnMar 5, 2012 1:25 AM
| ********** AWESOME !!!! That was epic !!! Shuu is BACK ! |
| The only part I don't like bout this episode is when the Vial coincidentally roll in front of Shu.... |
| They talked about that Shu would probably die. Not certainly. And they didn't talk about how much time between using and dying would pass. This doesn't rule out chances of Shu not being human, though there is nothing that says why he shouldn't be so far. Also, Segai. He was irritating all the time, and it irritates me even more that he simply died. Sure, he was happy, he got what he aimed for, but was that really all? Did he join the GHQ, get into the inner circle and everything simply to see the void genome used right? Or did he simply change his to this when he first saw Shu "doing it right"? And what exactly is wrong about the way Gai handles it in his eyes? Surely not the killing and stuff, it has to be something with Gai not being "destined" to handle it or something like this. I hope they don't simply forget Segai now. He doesn't need much time, but someone talking about him or a flashback to explain his motives and stuff would be nice. Another thing: Where or what did Koudou shoot, if he managed to miss Haruka at that distance? He doesn't seem the type who would avoid shooting someone, especially not after he pulled out that pistol and immediately shot. And why let her go only to declare her of having committed high treason? He wasn't hurt either, so how did Haruka escape? Did she pull a Robin Hood and shoot his bullet, and at that distance? It's weird that they've shown that he shot, but nothing what happend after it until she already hit the street and he seemingly doesn't care about it (that high treason stuff feels more like a routine operation, he looked busy thinking about other stuff when Segai announced he's going for her..) |
| Why hasn't Kenji gotten anymore screen time? |
Karhu said: Woah, I would totally like this if my IQ was 42 or lower. I laughed so hard I teared up. Lmfaoooo |
| Uh, well that was interesting o_O Haruka and that doctor are siblings ... who was "friends" with Kurosu? Interesting ... and Haruka isn't Shu's real mother interesting ... huh ;O Gai and that other long haired guy talking was interesting, a bit more backstory. Although his new goal to kill Gai is kind of stupid IMO lol Another awesome guy was killed today in Segai (or the guy with the awesome eye) ... shame, why do they keep killing off the characters I actually LIKE? Are they TRYING to get me to hate this show (more than I already do)?! O_O ZZZ Ayase trying to use the Genome then Shu uses it AGAIN. WTF his void is a right arm that "takes in everything"?! What the heck is that even supposed to MEAN?! Uhm ... OK then ... he's just super strong now and nothing can beat him but he got the cancer ... I wonder if they'll kill him off? Finally, it seems ... although not before he goes on his heroic quest to save Inori ... *sigh* Who's as useless as ever and is just hanging there, I suppose. Why she even exists is beyond me -_-" |
rawrx3itslynn said: Yumekichi11 said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yeah totally then, but this one is the most direct one I find. Now no one can even deny no reference even if the other ones were missed out. 90% of people know a cross and what it could be for more than notations through speech. Visuals are sometimes everything. Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following, is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. That being said the mix seems to be a central theme of too much due to this series having other elements that just don't ring good together but they are innovative. Genetics+Religion. That's what is interesting in the religions you mention. I will leave it at that to see what you think of it. Prior to reading your post last night, the religious connotations in the show didn't really register in my head. I was aware, but unaware of them at the same time, so yes, visuals > oral. Found more examples of religious reference, the "Sephirah Genomics" (comes from the Sephirot of Judaism) and the Apocalypse Virus, which references the Book of Revelations from the Christian Bible. Even the name "Funeral Parlor" speaks about death and the church. I would also like to add how each of the religions mentioned all begin the same with little variations, but each vary in the end. What I found interesting is how they keep trying to come back to the age-old Social Darwinism theory of science v. nature, which are genetics and religion in a different context respectively. Altering genetics, creation of race, "God" (although not explicitly stated) empowering those in charge, etc. I would also like to point out that Power and Politics (Manipulation, realpoitik, divine rights of kings, etc. ) are also big themes in the show. Nice info. In ep18 the Da'at reveal also added to Gai party's motives, tho coming from a too-late-for-new-character is awkward & she didn't explain what Da'at's after and who she was. So from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%27at Da'at: "location (the mystical state) where all ten sephirot in the Tree of Life are united as one." So Sephirat Genomics wants to unit sephirots (voids?) into one (Mana?). "...being situated upon that veil provides a gateway into "the void"." Guess it's talking about a different void...confusing. Inori's 'just' an interface, a gateway to access the final void - Mana's? Also appears Shu's been doing what Yuu wants, after he tried to kill him. Shu was collecting Mana's pieces with the void rank database. Then his new void collects people's voids (at least replica?). Possibly Yuu'll use Shu-Sponge to squeeze out a Mana? |
| Lelouch Lamperouge + Emiya Shirou = Ouma Shu. Also, I Got Goosebumps On The Action While Playing The Bios OST. 5/5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKWVCdHOrw8 This Episode Made Me Want To Have More Guilty Crown But Too Bad. Only 3 More Episodes And It Will End. |
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| Doesn't anyone think that Souta's Void was useless to use in the scene? With Yahiro's pincer slicing weapon, it was more than enough to destroy that truck without ever needing to go in it. -__- Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P0O1c_Owv4 What to think of the next ep? It's most likely a flashback episode, but now we finally see who is Shu's father and what he's like. I'm having some second thoughts about who is the main character of the prequel novel Lost Christmas...I was thinking that's Shu's father, but maybe not. Thoughts? |
GigaSPXMar 6, 2012 8:23 AM
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gophercg said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yumekichi11 said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yeah totally then, but this one is the most direct one I find. Now no one can even deny no reference even if the other ones were missed out. 90% of people know a cross and what it could be for more than notations through speech. Visuals are sometimes everything. Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following, is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. That being said the mix seems to be a central theme of too much due to this series having other elements that just don't ring good together but they are innovative. Genetics+Religion. That's what is interesting in the religions you mention. I will leave it at that to see what you think of it. Prior to reading your post last night, the religious connotations in the show didn't really register in my head. I was aware, but unaware of them at the same time, so yes, visuals > oral. Found more examples of religious reference, the "Sephirah Genomics" (comes from the Sephirot of Judaism) and the Apocalypse Virus, which references the Book of Revelations from the Christian Bible. Even the name "Funeral Parlor" speaks about death and the church. I would also like to add how each of the religions mentioned all begin the same with little variations, but each vary in the end. What I found interesting is how they keep trying to come back to the age-old Social Darwinism theory of science v. nature, which are genetics and religion in a different context respectively. Altering genetics, creation of race, "God" (although not explicitly stated) empowering those in charge, etc. I would also like to point out that Power and Politics (Manipulation, realpoitik, divine rights of kings, etc. ) are also big themes in the show. Nice info. In ep18 the Da'at reveal also added to Gai party's motives, tho coming from a too-late-for-new-character is awkward & she didn't explain what Da'at's after and who she was. So from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%27at Da'at: "location (the mystical state) where all ten sephirot in the Tree of Life are united as one." So Sephirat Genomics wants to unit sephirots (voids?) into one (Mana?). "...being situated upon that veil provides a gateway into "the void"." Guess it's talking about a different void...confusing. Inori's 'just' an interface, a gateway to access the final void - Mana's? Also appears Shu's been doing what Yuu wants, after he tried to kill him. Shu was collecting Mana's pieces with the void rank database. Then his new void collects people's voids (at least replica?). Possibly Yuu'll use Shu-Sponge to squeeze out a Mana? Awwww hell... With all these religious references I really hope Shu won't try to strangle Inori in front of a red sea in the end. That would make me 'feel sick' :P |
PTG said: gophercg said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yumekichi11 said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yeah totally then, but this one is the most direct one I find. Now no one can even deny no reference even if the other ones were missed out. 90% of people know a cross and what it could be for more than notations through speech. Visuals are sometimes everything. Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following, is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. That being said the mix seems to be a central theme of too much due to this series having other elements that just don't ring good together but they are innovative. Genetics+Religion. That's what is interesting in the religions you mention. I will leave it at that to see what you think of it. Prior to reading your post last night, the religious connotations in the show didn't really register in my head. I was aware, but unaware of them at the same time, so yes, visuals > oral. Found more examples of religious reference, the "Sephirah Genomics" (comes from the Sephirot of Judaism) and the Apocalypse Virus, which references the Book of Revelations from the Christian Bible. Even the name "Funeral Parlor" speaks about death and the church. I would also like to add how each of the religions mentioned all begin the same with little variations, but each vary in the end. What I found interesting is how they keep trying to come back to the age-old Social Darwinism theory of science v. nature, which are genetics and religion in a different context respectively. Altering genetics, creation of race, "God" (although not explicitly stated) empowering those in charge, etc. I would also like to point out that Power and Politics (Manipulation, realpoitik, divine rights of kings, etc. ) are also big themes in the show. Nice info. In ep18 the Da'at reveal also added to Gai party's motives, tho coming from a too-late-for-new-character is awkward & she didn't explain what Da'at's after and who she was. So from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%27at Da'at: "location (the mystical state) where all ten sephirot in the Tree of Life are united as one." So Sephirat Genomics wants to unit sephirots (voids?) into one (Mana?). "...being situated upon that veil provides a gateway into "the void"." Guess it's talking about a different void...confusing. Inori's 'just' an interface, a gateway to access the final void - Mana's? Also appears Shu's been doing what Yuu wants, after he tried to kill him. Shu was collecting Mana's pieces with the void rank database. Then his new void collects people's voids (at least replica?). Possibly Yuu'll use Shu-Sponge to squeeze out a Mana? Awwww hell... With all these religious references I really hope Shu won't try to strangle Inori in front of a red sea in the end. That would make me 'feel sick' :P No Inori will turn into an angel then turn all the humans into orange juice, then AYASE will be strangled |
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GuiltyKing said: It's much more fun to assume Keido aimed at a fatal spot in that close range but Haruka fabulously dodged it and only suffered minor injuries on her shoulder.NwAurion said: Another thing: Where or what did Koudou shoot, if he managed to miss Haruka at that distance? He doesn't seem the type who would avoid shooting someone, especially not after he pulled out that pistol and immediately shot. And why let her go only to declare her of having committed high treason? He wasn't hurt either, so how did Haruka escape? Did she pull a Robin Hood and shoot his bullet, and at that distance? It's weird that they've shown that he shot, but nothing what happend after it until she already hit the street and he seemingly doesn't care about it (that high treason stuff feels more like a routine operation, he looked busy thinking about other stuff when Segai announced he's going for her..) He shot Haruka in the left shoulder; as it's seeable in one of the escape scenes with the motorbike. Although it's still a mystery if he did it on purpose or if she simply dodged the bullet. Fun as in I get to use the word fabulous and spinzaku a couple of times to describe Haruka. |
GodlyKyon said: PTG said: gophercg said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yumekichi11 said: rawrx3itslynn said: Yeah totally then, but this one is the most direct one I find. Now no one can even deny no reference even if the other ones were missed out. 90% of people know a cross and what it could be for more than notations through speech. Visuals are sometimes everything. Yumekichi11 said: Second I will bear all the sins of the world? Sounds like Jesus to me again. With a arm? Well I assume it has to do with that arm did such as killing and hurting it would bear it. So the human being what it does with the hand in thee end if it’s wrong should bear it with it. Clear notions are of religious connotations of Christian elements among the fuckups that are of the other elements. As proof, in the following, is that not Inori but on a cross? It's not the first time religious undertones have been touched upon before Several examples would be Mana's role to give birth to a new race as Eve, Gai's cross, the church where Lost Christmas occurred, and the episode titles. It all screams Christian-Judaism-Islamic references. That being said the mix seems to be a central theme of too much due to this series having other elements that just don't ring good together but they are innovative. Genetics+Religion. That's what is interesting in the religions you mention. I will leave it at that to see what you think of it. Prior to reading your post last night, the religious connotations in the show didn't really register in my head. I was aware, but unaware of them at the same time, so yes, visuals > oral. Found more examples of religious reference, the "Sephirah Genomics" (comes from the Sephirot of Judaism) and the Apocalypse Virus, which references the Book of Revelations from the Christian Bible. Even the name "Funeral Parlor" speaks about death and the church. I would also like to add how each of the religions mentioned all begin the same with little variations, but each vary in the end. What I found interesting is how they keep trying to come back to the age-old Social Darwinism theory of science v. nature, which are genetics and religion in a different context respectively. Altering genetics, creation of race, "God" (although not explicitly stated) empowering those in charge, etc. I would also like to point out that Power and Politics (Manipulation, realpoitik, divine rights of kings, etc. ) are also big themes in the show. Nice info. In ep18 the Da'at reveal also added to Gai party's motives, tho coming from a too-late-for-new-character is awkward & she didn't explain what Da'at's after and who she was. So from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Da%27at Da'at: "location (the mystical state) where all ten sephirot in the Tree of Life are united as one." So Sephirat Genomics wants to unit sephirots (voids?) into one (Mana?). "...being situated upon that veil provides a gateway into "the void"." Guess it's talking about a different void...confusing. Inori's 'just' an interface, a gateway to access the final void - Mana's? Also appears Shu's been doing what Yuu wants, after he tried to kill him. Shu was collecting Mana's pieces with the void rank database. Then his new void collects people's voids (at least replica?). Possibly Yuu'll use Shu-Sponge to squeeze out a Mana? Awwww hell... With all these religious references I really hope Shu won't try to strangle Inori in front of a red sea in the end. That would make me 'feel sick' :P No Inori will turn into an angel then turn all the humans into orange juice, then AYASE will be strangled I guess I could live with that, but only if it happens in an extra movie and the last two episodes are only Shu struggling in himself and playing cello. :D |
| That end scene. Badass Shu on the offence there. Would've been interesting if Ayase had the genome but whatever, it's gotta be Shu anyway. |
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