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Sep 3, 2021 4:32 AM

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23feanor said:
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I've only watched 1 episode of PaniPoni so far, and it definitely is a lot like those mixed comedy-CGDCT shows, it has a lot of bizarre humor and it's visually appealing because ... Shaft / Akiyuki Shinbou directed (like Hidamari Sketch). Think: group of school girls like in Hidamari, a lightened up version of the humor of Teacher Despair, and random parody / references like in Lucky Star. And given it's 2005, it's "historically important" for the whole genre as it pretty much is only preceded by Azumanga. We could also pick that one, it's not too late.

Suggestion: Just peek into episode 1 and make an assessment. Even if we pick Macross now, that's a good next pick after and I could halt the watch. It's light and comedic and still interesting for an old elitist fart like myself. So that is perfect material for the group watch, imho.


If you're talking about watching PaniPoni next that sounds great. I checked out a few trailers and love the look of it. I've already added it to my ptw list (recently included the priority function and it goes straight in as a high priority) and it's available in eng dub on Funimation.

So maybe watch PaniPoni next and Macross after that (and Noein 3rd)? Does that sound ok @inim and @filifjonkan
Sounds ok for me, and I need no change just wait for 8 days until I watch ep2 :) I'll need to pick a "serious show" now, for which I had scheduled Noein. But np, I have a lot of heavy stuff on backlog that'll probably never make it to group watch candidate anyway.

Sep 5, 2021 8:14 AM
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Hello!

I wonder if it is the PaniPoni with 48 episodes that is up for a group-watch? @23feanor
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filifjonkan said:
Hello!

I wonder if it is the PaniPoni with 48 episodes that is up for a group-watch? @23feanor


Hope you're well. Here's the mal page for Paniponi Dash, it has 26 eps. It looks quite light hearted and a bit of fun after Darker Than Black and Durarara.

Have a good evening.
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@inim I was just browsing through my list and wondered what your take on the Kingdom series is? I checked your list and can't see it on either your completed or ptw list. I've always quite liked the stories concerning the Warring Kingdoms in China and after the series came to Funimation last week (although the eng dub still hasn't been added yet) I decided to add it.

Obviously we're set for shows to watch for a while, but wanted to get your take on it as it may be a good show for a group watch.

Another show i saw on your ptw list on high priority is Parasite the Maxim. I started this on Netflix last year and it's currently on hold on ep 8, so I'd be up for picking this back up at some point in the future if filifjonkan is on board.
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Hello @23feanor!

Thanks for considering my opinion, much appreciated! I would like to watch Kingdom, since I think history is interesting. Even if it is an anime...

For "Parasyte the Maxim"; I have already watched that series and I liked it a lot.

Sep 7, 2021 9:24 AM

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filifjonkan said:
Hello @23feanor!

Thanks for considering my opinion, much appreciated! I would like to watch Kingdom, since I think history is interesting. Even if it is an anime...

For "Parasyte the Maxim"; I have already watched that series and I liked it a lot.



Apologies looks like i missed the @ sign on your name on my message. After writing this message I checked your list and saw you had watched it so we can leave Parasyte, it wouldn't be much fun for you re-watching something again. Also i can't actually remember much of what happened so would have to re-watch the whole thing.

I love certain historical shows, ancient China and the warring kingdoms is one setting i never seem to get bored of.

Hope you had a nice birthday ^_^
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23feanor said:
@inim I was just browsing through my list and wondered what your take on the Kingdom series is? I checked your list and can't see it on either your completed or ptw list. I've always quite liked the stories concerning the Warring Kingdoms in China and after the series came to Funimation last week (although the eng dub still hasn't been added yet) I decided to add it.
There are multiple reasons why KIngdom isn't one PTW. First, Saiunkoku Monogatari as a similar anime won the direct comparison for me. Second, I have a bad feeling about it. It's popular, it's high rated, but all my high affinity friends gave it low ratings. Low as in really low, 4/10 and down. Here's an exemplary devastating review. Across all reviews it boils down to these points: extremely bad CGI with dead eyes, even worse battle scene CGI, black-and white wooden shounen characters you don't care for, and bad dialog writing. I know it's tagged seinen on MAL, but almost every review mentions "bad shounen writing". My sensory system told me to stay away, and in case I really want an ancient China anime, watch Saiunkoku instead.

Too bad Parasyte is not an option, that one is the polar opposite w/r to my guts feeling. I expect it to be very good.

Sep 8, 2021 12:47 AM

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inim said:
23feanor said:
@inim I was just browsing through my list and wondered what your take on the Kingdom series is? I checked your list and can't see it on either your completed or ptw list. I've always quite liked the stories concerning the Warring Kingdoms in China and after the series came to Funimation last week (although the eng dub still hasn't been added yet) I decided to add it.
There are multiple reasons why KIngdom isn't one PTW. First, Saiunkoku Monogatari as a similar anime won the direct comparison for me. Second, I have a bad feeling about it. It's popular, it's high rated, but all my high affinity friends gave it low ratings. Low as in really low, 4/10 and down. Here's an exemplary devastating review. Across all reviews it boils down to these points: extremely bad CGI with dead eyes, even worse battle scene CGI, black-and white wooden shounen characters you don't care for, and bad dialog writing. I know it's tagged seinen on MAL, but almost every review mentions "bad shounen writing". My sensory system told me to stay away, and in case I really want an ancient China anime, watch Saiunkoku instead.

Too bad Parasyte is not an option, that one is the polar opposite w/r to my guts feeling. I expect it to be very good.


I had heard about similar problems and only thought about adding it after it landed on Funimation. You mentioned The Story of Saiunkoku to me before and i have added that to my ptw list already after checking out some trailers and reading some reviews. Maybe we could look at that later this winter or next year.

@filifjonkan do you like the look of The Story of Saiunkoku/Saiunkoku Monogatari which is also a historical show. Here's a good trailer

Edit I forgot about Fushigi Yuugi or Mysterious Play, a shoujo flavoured ancient china anime from 95. Will probably try and tackle that one myself this autumn/winter.
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Sep 8, 2021 2:32 AM

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23feanor said:
inim said:
There are multiple reasons why KIngdom isn't one PTW. First, Saiunkoku Monogatari as a similar anime won the direct comparison for me. Second, I have a bad feeling about it. It's popular, it's high rated, but all my high affinity friends gave it low ratings. Low as in really low, 4/10 and down. Here's an exemplary devastating review. Across all reviews it boils down to these points: extremely bad CGI with dead eyes, even worse battle scene CGI, black-and white wooden shounen characters you don't care for, and bad dialog writing. I know it's tagged seinen on MAL, but almost every review mentions "bad shounen writing". My sensory system told me to stay away, and in case I really want an ancient China anime, watch Saiunkoku instead.

Too bad Parasyte is not an option, that one is the polar opposite w/r to my guts feeling. I expect it to be very good.


I had heard about similar problems and only thought about adding it after it landed on Funimation. You mentioned The Story of Saiunkoku to me before and i have added that to my ptw list already after checking out some trailers and reading some reviews. Maybe we could look at that later this winter or next year.

@filifjonkan do you like the look of The Story of Saiunkoku/Saiunkoku Monogatari which is also a historical show. Here's a good trailer

Edit I forgot about Fushigi Yuugi or Mysterious Play, a shoujo flavoured ancient china anime from 95. Will probably try and tackle that one myself this autumn/winter.
I've had a look at https://myanimelist.net/anime/123/Fushigi_Yuugi which I've seen mentioned as similar in all of the shows we discuss. So it seems to be the "original version".

It's 52 eps and by that standard pretty long, but not out of reach. I'm burning down a few long anime next, so that would fit in. Ongoing watch is https://myanimelist.net/anime/427/Kaleido_Star and it's an easy one and very positive and entertaining. Basically shoujo ganbatte with medlodrama and a super-nice female MC set in the circus world. Next 50+ eps candidate for me is https://myanimelist.net/anime/122/Full_Moon_wo_Sagashite which I got raving recommendations for from totally different type of watchers, including AnimeSnob and an actual female German shoujo fan I know in real life. It's her favorite of all time. It's a tragedy at heart, i.e. about a fatally ill girl's last stand and wish. So it may be too sad for the group. OTOH, it's shoujo and by that virtue not "hard", just emotional (I hope).


Within the "history 50+ eps epics similar to FY" complex, I see these anidb ratings. As you know, I trust anidb a lot more than MAL as it's audience is more critical and older.
https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=87
Fushigi Yuugi == 5.91
Saiunkoku Monogatari == 7.77
Kingdom = 6.98
Tenkuu no Escaflowne == 7.05 (watched)
Akatsuki no Yona = 7.07 (watched)
Juuni Kokuki == 8.28 (watched)

Escaflowne and Juuni are 7 and 8 in my ratings as well, I didn't like Yona that much it's 5/10 for me. The risk I see is that FY is also a reverse harem and that may be a problem. In any case I see fewer problems than for Kingdom.
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inim said:
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I had heard about similar problems and only thought about adding it after it landed on Funimation. You mentioned The Story of Saiunkoku to me before and i have added that to my ptw list already after checking out some trailers and reading some reviews. Maybe we could look at that later this winter or next year.

@filifjonkan do you like the look of The Story of Saiunkoku/Saiunkoku Monogatari which is also a historical show. Here's a good trailer

Edit I forgot about Fushigi Yuugi or Mysterious Play, a shoujo flavoured ancient china anime from 95. Will probably try and tackle that one myself this autumn/winter.
I've had a look at https://myanimelist.net/anime/123/Fushigi_Yuugi which I've seen mentioned as similar in all of the shows we discuss. So it seems to be the "original version".

It's 52 eps and by that standard pretty long, but not out of reach. I'm burning down a few long anime next, so that would fit in. Ongoing watch is https://myanimelist.net/anime/427/Kaleido_Star and it's an easy one and very positive and entertaining. Basically shoujo ganbatte with medlodrama and a super-nice female MC set in the circus world. Next 50+ eps candidate for me is https://myanimelist.net/anime/122/Full_Moon_wo_Sagashite which I got raving recommendations for from totally different type of watchers, including AnimeSnob and an actual female German shoujo fan I know in real life. It's her favorite of all time. It's a tragedy at heart, i.e. about a fatally ill girl's last stand and wish. So it may be too sad for the group. OTOH, it's shoujo and by that virtue not "hard", just emotional (I hope).


Within the "history 50+ eps epics similar to FY" complex, I see these anidb ratings. As you know, I trust anidb a lot more than MAL as it's audience is more critical and older.
https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=87
Fushigi Yuugi == 5.91
Saiunkoku Monogatari == 7.77
Kingdom = 6.98
Tenkuu no Escaflowne == 7.05 (watched)
Akatsuki no Yona = 7.07 (watched)
Juuni Kokuki == 8.28 (watched)

Escaflowne and Juuni are 7 and 8 in my ratings as well, I didn't like Yona that much it's 5/10 for me. The risk I see is that FY is also a reverse harem and that may be a problem. In any case I see fewer problems than for Kingdom.


Out of all of them, i like the look of Sainkoku (Colour Cloud Palace) the most, i looks like a shoujo but doesn't have the shoujo tag. It also looks like there are a number of males surrounding a female lead, but after checking out a few more trailers i think it looks really interesting (girl becomes concubine to a gay emperor and wants to change him for the better, as well as palace intrigue). There's also an eng dub, which is a big plus for me.

I'm thinking of starting Yona next and read your review ("shoujo version of 12 kingdoms"). 12 Kingdoms is another title i want to tackle myself this coming winter.

We've got Paniponidash and Macross then Noein so it'll be a while before we get to another title anyway.
Sep 8, 2021 3:31 AM

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23feanor said:
inim said:
I've had a look at https://myanimelist.net/anime/123/Fushigi_Yuugi which I've seen mentioned as similar in all of the shows we discuss. So it seems to be the "original version".

It's 52 eps and by that standard pretty long, but not out of reach. I'm burning down a few long anime next, so that would fit in. Ongoing watch is https://myanimelist.net/anime/427/Kaleido_Star and it's an easy one and very positive and entertaining. Basically shoujo ganbatte with medlodrama and a super-nice female MC set in the circus world. Next 50+ eps candidate for me is https://myanimelist.net/anime/122/Full_Moon_wo_Sagashite which I got raving recommendations for from totally different type of watchers, including AnimeSnob and an actual female German shoujo fan I know in real life. It's her favorite of all time. It's a tragedy at heart, i.e. about a fatally ill girl's last stand and wish. So it may be too sad for the group. OTOH, it's shoujo and by that virtue not "hard", just emotional (I hope).


Within the "history 50+ eps epics similar to FY" complex, I see these anidb ratings. As you know, I trust anidb a lot more than MAL as it's audience is more critical and older.
https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=87
Fushigi Yuugi == 5.91
Saiunkoku Monogatari == 7.77
Kingdom = 6.98
Tenkuu no Escaflowne == 7.05 (watched)
Akatsuki no Yona = 7.07 (watched)
Juuni Kokuki == 8.28 (watched)

Escaflowne and Juuni are 7 and 8 in my ratings as well, I didn't like Yona that much it's 5/10 for me. The risk I see is that FY is also a reverse harem and that may be a problem. In any case I see fewer problems than for Kingdom.


Out of all of them, i like the look of Sainkoku (Colour Cloud Palace) the most, i looks like a shoujo but doesn't have the shoujo tag. It also looks like there are a number of males surrounding a female lead, but after checking out a few more trailers i think it looks really interesting (girl becomes concubine to a gay emperor and wants to change him for the better, as well as palace intrigue). There's also an eng dub, which is a big plus for me.

I'm thinking of starting Yona next and read your review ("shoujo version of 12 kingdoms"). 12 Kingdoms is another title i want to tackle myself this coming winter.

We've got Paniponidash and Macross then Noein so it'll be a while before we get to another title anyway.
I'd call 12 Kingdoms soft shoujo by itself, it just lacks the reverse harem Yona and Fushigi Yuugi have / seem to have. The MC still is a strong female, and the way it tells the story is closer to shoujo / emotions / interpersonal relations than to battles, competition and fights as in seinen/shounen. Sainkoku seems to be a good compromise, count me in whenever we schedule it.

EDIT: <plug type="shameless"> Actually 12 Kingdoms is a very strong 8, I had it at 9 first and it's a clear "promotion pending" candidate. You should really give priority to that one, it's "just" the best medieval fantasy world (Chinese even!) type isekai ever made ... 12K takes a handful of episodes in the "real world" before the heroine is on her track and the world building in the fantasy world can start, don't give up too early. But it's "handful" not "dozen" :) Also: EN dub exists. </plug>
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Hello, tomodachi!

I hope you are doing well and that the levels of stress are acceptable in your lifes.

@23feanor and @inim I think that I will leave the decision on what series we will watch next to your good judgement, I hav full confidence in your choice of anime. I am very flexible. :-)

Take care, minna-san!
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Hello everyone. I'm "tardy to the party" as always. This group watch idea is awesome. Macross is on my PTW list and I watched Noein a few years ago but I'd watch it again. Is it too late to begin watching with you all?
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Hello everyone. I'm "tardy to the party" as always. This group watch idea is awesome. Macross is on my PTW list and I watched Noein a few years ago but I'd watch it again. Is it too late to begin watching with you all?


Not at all. We're just finishing up our Pani Poni Dash watch and are planning to start Macross on Thursday and would love to have another member. We watch one ep per day and post each day but with busy lives that's not always possible so post whenever you can. The more the merrier.

The Macross thread is already up but I'll link you as well ^_^
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Despite my constant bitching about suspension of disbelief requirement, I find myself liking Macross quite a lot. So I've checked the options to have some more of it, and decided that Macross 7 (49 eps) is skipable. The 3rd season, Macross F(rontier) however has the highest rating of the whole franchise and is a mere 25 eps long.

I don't feel skipping is a problem with a franchise of this epic proportions, the seasons take place decades apart and have fresh 16 year old protagonists each. This is very similar to the Gundam universe, different seasons, OVA and movies are all linked by the universe and it's shared history, but their stories and cast are not dependent.

Rationale:
https://anidb.net/anime/?adb.search=Macross&noalias=1&orderby.name=1.1&orderby.rating=0.2

S1 = 7.64
S2 = 5.03
S3 = 7.78
S4 = 4.75

The top 3 of the franchise are by a wide margin: Frontier, Superdimensional Fortress and Zero. Along with their respective movies, prequels and sequels.

So @23feanor and @filifjonkan how about more space idols? Doesn't ave to be our next watch (that's Noein afaik), but I would save Macross F for the group watch if interest exists.

Oct 25, 2021 12:24 AM

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inim said:
Despite my constant bitching about suspension of disbelief requirement, I find myself liking Macross quite a lot. So I've checked the options to have some more of it, and decided that Macross 7 (49 eps) is skipable. The 3rd season, Macross F(rontier) however has the highest rating of the whole franchise and is a mere 25 eps long.

I don't feel skipping is a problem with a franchise of this epic proportions, the seasons take place decades apart and have fresh 16 year old protagonists each. This is very similar to the Gundam universe, different seasons, OVA and movies are all linked by the universe and it's shared history, but their stories and cast are not dependent.

Rationale:
https://anidb.net/anime/?adb.search=Macross&noalias=1&orderby.name=1.1&orderby.rating=0.2

S1 = 7.64
S2 = 5.03
S3 = 7.78
S4 = 4.75

The top 3 of the franchise are by a wide margin: Frontier, Superdimensional Fortress and Zero. Along with their respective movies, prequels and sequels.

So @23feanor and @filifjonkan how about more space idols? Doesn't ave to be our next watch (that's Noein afaik), but I would save Macross F for the group watch if interest exists.


I'd be up for some more Macross and I'm also really enjoying the series, despite the dated animation. Maybe after Noein or we could do it straight after Macross S1, I'm easy either way.
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Here's my suggestion for "more Macross" in baby steps. The 1982 series has two extras produced as direct sequels.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/1089/Macross__Do_You_Remember_Love (DYRL, 1984)
https://myanimelist.net/anime/1504/Macross_Flash_Back_2012 (1987)

FB2012 is a 30 minute fictional concert and AMV show of Minmei songs based on TV and DYRL footage. It also has a newly animated last scene of the TV show.

DYRL is widely considered one of the best 80s movies and retells the TV show with minor modifications and modified ending.

Then there is the direct sequel OVA, set 35 years after Macross TV.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/474/Macross_Plus (1997)

M+ has 4 double length episodes and a good rating. The characters are different from the TV and DYRL. Yea, no more Minmei pain.

=> Suggestion
As @23feanor suggested, I'd say we make DYRL and Macross Zero optional watches outside the group. I'll rewatch DYRL anyway.

Then we can continue for 5 more days with
FB2012 (30 min)
4x M+ (40 min each)

After that we have seen what a sequel setting looks and feels like, and can move on to either Macross F (25 eps) or Noein. I'm open for alternatives, yet I'd like to do Noein sooner than later because I "need" 2005 anime for my badge addiction.

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@inim i thought i wanted more Macross, and i do, but after this last arc I'm not sure I'll be able to stomach any more Minmei and her singing. I'm honestly waking up in the middle of the night with "Kyun Kyun" from My Boyfriend is a Pilot playing and Minmei saying "Hikaru" in that voice of hers. The characters have firmly gotten inside my head (a bit like Utena) and after we finish Macross I'll be glad of the break from thinking about Minmei, Misa and Hikaru.

I would like to watch the movies DYRL someday but think i need a break from the love triangle. We could watch the Macross Plus eps and then move onto Noein and plan to watch Macross F at a later date as I'd like to see more Macross, I've just had an overload of Minmei, Hikaru and Misa.

Would that be ok?

Also @filifjonkan what are your thoughts?
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I'm honestly waking up in the middle of the night with "Kyun Kyun" from My Boyfriend is a Pilot playing and Minmei saying "Hikaru" in that voice of hers.

We could watch the Macross Plus eps and then move onto Noein and plan to watch Macross F at a later date
So no FB2012, straight to M+, then Noein. Looks good to me. Deal.

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Thanks for your interest into our cozy group watch group with @23feanor and @filifjonkan, @whiteflame55. I'm particularly happy about somebody with affinity to "harder" shows, we e.g. have shared on our PTW Casshern Sins, Drifters (by the mangaka of Hellsing, tehe), and Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans.

Anway, I've compiled a fresh intersection of @23feanor's and my own PTW. It's not always easy to find a show because of long "completed" lists and different genre preferences. We usually alternate between "heavier" and "lighter" shows, and after Noein it's time again for "light entertainment". The first block has shared PTW shows @23feanor marked with priorities "high" and "medium", the 2nd random picks from "low".

https://myanimelist.net/anime/11933/Oda_Nobuna_no_Yabou
https://myanimelist.net/anime/1251/Fushigi_no_Umi_no_Nadia
https://myanimelist.net/anime/4181/Clannad__After_Story
https://myanimelist.net/anime/5678/Kobato
https://myanimelist.net/anime/11887/Kokoro_Connect
https://myanimelist.net/anime/12679/Joshiraku
https://myanimelist.net/anime/17729/Grisaia_no_Kajitsu
https://myanimelist.net/anime/8557/Shinryaku_Ika_Musume
https://myanimelist.net/anime/32949/Kuzu_no_Honkai
https://myanimelist.net/anime/35079/Kino_no_Tabi__The_Beautiful_World_-_The_Animated_Series

https://myanimelist.net/anime/530/Bishoujo_Senshi_Sailor_Moon
https://myanimelist.net/anime/274/Kiddy_Grade
https://myanimelist.net/anime/818/Sakura_Tsuushin
https://myanimelist.net/anime/25731/Cross_Ange__Tenshi_to_Ryuu_no_Rondo
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37965/Kaze_ga_Tsuyoku_Fuiteiru
https://myanimelist.net/anime/37993/Watashi_ni_Tenshi_ga_Maiorita

Is any of those is of interest to you? Any show you'd suggest yourself?

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@inim Happy to join and, yes, it appears as though we are very much in line with some of our shared interests. Interestingly, one of my all-time favorite AMVs is for Casshern Sins, and it's one of the main reasons I want to pick up the series (wish my backlog wasn't so massive...)

As for this list, among them, I'd be most interested in The Ambition of Oda Nobuna, Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, Kobato. Kokoro Connect and Joshiraku. I hadn't heard of most of these, but the first two especially sound intriguing, and I've been meaning to get to Kokoro Connect one of these days (lower priority).

As for alternatives, I'll mainly contribute from my Plan to Watch list.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/38680/Fruits_Basket_1st_Season
https://myanimelist.net/anime/28735/Shouwa_Genroku_Rakugo_Shinjuu
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40397/Maoujou_de_Oyasumi
https://myanimelist.net/anime/41389/Tonikaku_Kawaii
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33206/Kobayashi-san_Chi_no_Maid_Dragon
https://myanimelist.net/anime/16417/Tamako_Market
https://myanimelist.net/anime/12189/Hyouka

Anyway, just thoughts. Many of you have probably seen the ones above, and I'd rather we watched something the vast majority (or all) of us haven't watched.
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Interestingly, one of my all-time favorite AMVs is for Casshern Sins, and it's one of the main reasons I want to pick up the series (wish my backlog wasn't so massive...)

As for this list, among them, I'd be most interested in The Ambition of Oda Nobuna, Nadia: Secret of Blue Water, Kobato. Kokoro Connect and Joshiraku. I hadn't heard of most of these, but the first two especially sound intriguing, and I've been meaning to get to Kokoro Connect one of these days (lower priority).

As for alternatives, I'll mainly contribute from my Plan to Watch list.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/38680/Fruits_Basket_1st_Season
https://myanimelist.net/anime/28735/Shouwa_Genroku_Rakugo_Shinjuu
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40397/Maoujou_de_Oyasumi
https://myanimelist.net/anime/41389/Tonikaku_Kawaii
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33206/Kobayashi-san_Chi_no_Maid_Dragon
https://myanimelist.net/anime/16417/Tamako_Market
https://myanimelist.net/anime/12189/Hyouka

Anyway, just thoughts. Many of you have probably seen the ones above, and I'd rather we watched something the vast majority (or all) of us haven't watched.
Interestingly enough, Tamako Market and Hyouka previously have been group watched, KyoAni is certainly a common denominator. Of the remaining ones, Fruits basked is the only one on your suggestion list nobody of us has watched. Given all three of us have it on PTW, it seems like a natural candidate for a group watch.

And as for Casshern and similar shows, that's mainly up to @23feanor - I'd be in. As for your picks from the intersection list, I'm fine with any of those.

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Interestingly enough, Tamako Market and Hyouka previously have been group watched, KyoAni is certainly a common denominator. Of the remaining ones, Fruits basked is the only one on your suggestion list nobody of us has watched. Given all three of us have it on PTW, it seems like a natural candidate for a group watch.

And as for Casshern and similar shows, that's mainly up to @23feanor - I'd be in. As for your picks from the intersection list, I'm fine with any of those.


I hadn't had much of a chance to look back through your previous group watches yet, but it sounds as though you've made a lot of good choices already. I'll look forward to whatever we go ahead with, and yes, Casshern Sins and the like would make great future watches.
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@inim @whiteflame55 I'd been looking at Fruits Basket again recently and something I wouldn't mind picking up after Noein if that's ok with you both and @filifjonkan?

I've heard of Casshern Sins, but don't know much about it. Will check out some trailers but I'm always up for checking out something different that I haven't seen or heard of (Darker Than Black was amazing and a franchise i didn't expect to like as much as i did).

As @inim said, would be great to have another watcher along
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Brief note on "backlog". When I started to explore anime a few years ago, I've picked a very systematic approach, watching critics' lists top to bottom. With today's experience, that were a lot of 10-8/10s in very short time and without means to compare. Yet most really influential classics are "completed" by a previous version of myself. If you guys agree on some S-tier title, I'd use the opportunity for a rewatch. E.g. Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu or Planetes would be examples of the type of show I talk about, pretty much all shows on https://anime.jhiday.net/hof/challenge/criticsConnoisseurs?user=inim#challengeItems
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inim said:
Brief note on "backlog". When I started to explore anime a few years ago, I've picked a very systematic approach, watching critics' lists top to bottom. With today's experience, that were a lot of 10-8/10s in very short time and without means to compare. Yet most really influential classics are "completed" by a previous version of myself. If you guys agree on some S-tier title, I'd use the opportunity for a rewatch. E.g. Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu or Planetes would be examples of the type of show I talk about, pretty much all shows on https://anime.jhiday.net/hof/challenge/criticsConnoisseurs?user=NOTJHIDAY#challengeItems


Intriguing way to handle it. I'm rather scattershot in getting through my backlog. I'm at the point where I'm fine with that, though. Finding ways to determine which series/movies to prioritize by my own metrics, which have largely worked out.
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inim said:
Brief note on "backlog". When I started to explore anime a few years ago, I've picked a very systematic approach, watching critics' lists top to bottom. With today's experience, that were a lot of 10-8/10s in very short time and without means to compare. Yet most really influential classics are "completed" by a previous version of myself. If you guys agree on some S-tier title, I'd use the opportunity for a rewatch. E.g. Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu or Planetes would be examples of the type of show I talk about, pretty much all shows on https://anime.jhiday.net/hof/challenge/criticsConnoisseurs?user=inim#challengeItems


Planetes (on my high priority list) and Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu are both shows I've heard a lot about and would love to watch. After Noein a lighter show may be in order, and Fruits Basket (2019) sounds like the perfect pick if it's on all our ptw lists.
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Hi everyone! I'm new to the club but group watchalongs sound like great fun! I'm more into romance and horror, but if something sounds good I'll watch it no matter the genre. I have a few suggestions for shows that have really blown me away that I think people would like:

Gakkougurashi
Flip Flappers
Mysterious Girlfriend X

Be VERY careful with Gakkougurashi spoilers, it's very easy to get one big thing spoiled, it happened to me just by scrolling past the reviews, and wish it didn't. Nazo No Kanojo X/Mysterious Girlfriend X is a bit infamous for it's gross out plot device, but the romance here is legendary imo. These are my recommendations but as I said, I'm down to watch most things.
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I definitely will come If you start watching Joshiraku. This story has some fridge brilliance
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@inim @filifjonkan as we're getting towards the end of Noein I thought we should look at what's next. We mentioned something lighter next and Fruits Basket (2019) was put forward. I think that sounds a good idea as it's also on the ptw list of @whiteflame55.

After that @inim kindly put together a list of shared shows below. I wuldn't mind picking up Clannad After Story at some point, but I know it's quite heavy. Sailor Moon, Kobato or Joshiraku would be another couple I would like to tackle after Fruits Basket. Not forgetting Macross F at some point in the future. Flip Flappers put forward by @KainiusTheGreat is another show I've wanted to check out, as is Joshiraku suggested by @jdvz. As always open to suggestions.

We finish Noein next Thursday so will be starting the next show, Fruits Basket (2019) a week today and anyone welcome to join in.

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KainiusTheGreat said:
Hi everyone! I'm new to the club but group watchalongs sound like great fun!
Gakkougurashi
Flip Flappers
Mysterious Girlfriend X
Welcome, the more the merrier. Of your suggestions, Kanojo X is on my PTW, seen the others.
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I definitely will come If you start watching Joshiraku. This story has some fridge brilliance
It's on my PTW, I'm in. From what I read it's very Japanese, the comedy probably is hit or miss.

@23feanor Clannad After Story, Sailor Moon, Kobato, Joshiraku, Fruits Basket, Macross F => All good. I'll watch Clannad S1 as one of the next shows to prepare for AS.

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Hello!!

I would like to watch Fruits Basket )2019) as it looks like a fine series, at least to me and my taste. I have unfortunately watched many of the other suggestions.

@23feanor I was also wondering if you are any ongoing series at the moment? Also, I noticed that the storm in England was called Arwen..isn't that Elronds the half-elf daughter in LOTR?

Take care, minna-san!!
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Hello!!

I would like to watch Fruits Basket )2019) as it looks like a fine series, at least to me and my taste. I have unfortunately watched many of the other suggestions.

@23feanor I was also wondering if you are any ongoing series at the moment? Also, I noticed that the storm in England was called Arwen..isn't that Elronds the half-elf daughter in LOTR?

Take care, minna-san!!


Yes Arwen is Elronds daughter and one of the main female characters in LoTR, the movies actually gave a larger starring role to Arwen than she has in the books, where she only makes a couple of minor appearances.

I've spent the day watching a bunch of OVA's which was quite fun, You're Under Arrest in particular. I'm about to start Baccano and then 12 Kingdoms.
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I've spent the day watching a bunch of OVA's which was quite fun, You're Under Arrest in particular. I'm about to start Baccano and then 12 Kingdoms.


Just an FYI here. If, or when, you start watching the Taiho Shichau zo (TV) series don't be to disappointed if the first 4 episodes seem like re-runs. For some reason, many of the groups subbing the series group the OAV in as the first 4 episodes of the series. Partly because the OAV were the pilot episodes for the series. Sadly, the quality of the next 47 episodes were not as good as the first 4 because of this. Not to unusual really, but I thought you should have a heads-up. If you do watch the series, the writing doesn't suffer from the continuation of the OAV, just the animation, so it's still a good watch. Enjoy!
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23feanor said:
I've spent the day watching a bunch of OVA's which was quite fun, You're Under Arrest in particular. I'm about to start Baccano and then 12 Kingdoms.


Just an FYI here. If, or when, you start watching the Taiho Shichau zo (TV) series don't be to disappointed if the first 4 episodes seem like re-runs. For some reason, many of the groups subbing the series group the OAV in as the first 4 episodes of the series. Partly because the OAV were the pilot episodes for the series. Sadly, the quality of the next 47 episodes were not as good as the first 4 because of this. Not to unusual really, but I thought you should have a heads-up. If you do watch the series, the writing doesn't suffer from the continuation of the OAV, just the animation, so it's still a good watch. Enjoy!


Thanks useful to know although as you say TV animation standard rarely stands up to that of an OVA. I was really impressed by Taiho Shichau zo, it was a perfect beginning to a franchise imho.
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Thanks useful to know although as you say TV animation standard rarely stands up to that of an OVA. I was really impressed by Taiho Shichau zo, it was a perfect beginning to a franchise imho.


I have a feeling they meant more about subbing group changes, not show quality changes. It depends who did it and how they got the subs. I really hate clunky bitmap subs on some older releases (the ones that are usually an ugly yellow), which were ripped off cheap DVD versions.
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23feanor said:

Thanks useful to know although as you say TV animation standard rarely stands up to that of an OVA. I was really impressed by Taiho Shichau zo, it was a perfect beginning to a franchise imho.


I have a feeling they meant more about subbing group changes, not show quality changes. It depends who did it and how they got the subs. I really hate clunky bitmap subs on some older releases (the ones that are usually an ugly yellow), which were ripped off cheap DVD versions.


Ah ok, i usually watch the english dub so subs aren't an issue. The eng dub for the OVA was pretty decent.
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I have a feeling they meant more about subbing group changes, not show quality changes. It depends who did it and how they got the subs. I really hate clunky bitmap subs on some older releases (the ones that are usually an ugly yellow), which were ripped off cheap DVD versions.


Ah ok, i usually watch the english dub so subs aren't an issue. The eng dub for the OVA was pretty decent.


I meant both the subbing groups and the animation. Depending on the group doing the subtitles some of the groups package the series with the OAV as the first four episodes of the first season. Others package them separately. I usually try to get the ones that package their subs in MKV format. That way you usually get a choice in whether to watch with or without subtitles.

I'm glad you enjoy the English dub and feel they did a pretty good job. To many times I have watched a series on a DVD listening to the dub and with subs turned on and the subs don't match up with what the dubbers say. The Tenchi Muyo series comes to mind although they did a pretty good job, it just came out weird, so now I tend to watch it with just subs.

Is it a bad thing that I turn on close captioning for EVERYTHING so that I can understand what they're speaking in English now?
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Hey guys, I have seen there are couple of rewatches going on those days. When you do next one, please tag me. I will try to participate.
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Hey guys, I have seen there are couple of rewatches going on those days. When you do next one, please tag me. I will try to participate.


No problem, the more the merrier. We're on episode 6 of Fruits Basket 2019 so if you fancy catching up and joining in you'd be more than welcome.

There's a list above (3rd December) listing some of the possible next shows we may pick up. I think Joshiraku is a possible one, suggested by @jdvz, as we haven't had a comedy in a while (last one was Paniponi Dash and it went down well). Other possible picks may be Macross F or Kobato and I know @inim and I wouldn't mind checking out the original Sailor Moon at some point. If you have any suggestions please put them forward.

We watch one ep per day and it's informal so no pressure to watch and comment, we all have lives outside of anime.

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Frankly speaking I realized that joshiraku might be not as interesting as it was for me. I watched it with a lot of reference material. Without it it would be cgdct slice of life with strange humor
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I've compiled my AWC 2022 plan and would like to share it because these are the shows I "need" now for my badge and list addiction. The tricky part is that when I burn down the list, I'll also have earned new levels for Samurai, Space, Dementia, and the year 1998 and by that my 3rd red star. I really love those puzzles with anime :D
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1983768&show=150#msg65425712

Anyway, I suggest every anime in the list for a group watch of course. That would kill one more bird with an already multi-functional stone.

In particular, I'd suggest http://myanimelist.net/anime/2559 which is the shortest AND highest rated World Masterpiece Theater show on anidb. Now that ya'll have tasted long running show blood, what's 33 episodes among friends? I'll be happy with any show from the list of course. Others methinks would fit the group are:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/1483 (insurance detective episodic stories by the director of Monster)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/33337 (steampunk police, highly praised by critics)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/37965 (sports drama about runners)
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I've compiled my AWC 2022 plan and would like to share it because these are the shows I "need" now for my badge and list addiction. The tricky part is that when I burn down the list, I'll also have earned new levels for Samurai, Space, Dementia, and the year 1998 and by that my 3rd red star. I really love those puzzles with anime :D
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1983768&show=150#msg65425712

Anyway, I suggest every anime in the list for a group watch of course. That would kill one more bird with an already multi-functional stone.

In particular, I'd suggest http://myanimelist.net/anime/2559 which is the shortest AND highest rated World Masterpiece Theater show on anidb. Now that ya'll have tasted long running show blood, what's 33 episodes among friends? I'll be happy with any show from the list of course. Others methinks would fit the group are:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/1483 (insurance detective episodic stories by the director of Monster)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/33337 (steampunk police, highly praised by critics)
http://myanimelist.net/anime/37965 (sports drama about runners)


Only just seen this list, some good suggestions. I do want to try a WMT show at some point, but don't have any great desire atm, there are many more shows we've listed here I want to get around to before that. But definitely count me in when we get round to it.

Run with the Wind is one I wouldn't mind watching sooner rather than later and has been on my radar for years.

For longer series we have Sailor Moon and we also raised the idea of watching Macross F at some point.

@Antalk mentioned he's interested in joining in the next group watch after his break getting his house move sorted (hope that all went smoothly), maybe something sports related like Run with the Wind might be a nice changed of pace after FruBa. @Antalk any suggestions from your end (@inim kindly put together a list of some shared shows on the 14th November, see above)?
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@inim @23feanor

From that list, I'd be up for Run with the Wind and ACCA. We were also previously talking about watching Casshern Sins, but it might be better to save that for a later watch and check out one of these first.
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@whiteflame55 @23feanor @Antalk

Thanks for the quick feedback. Last year I obsessed and rushed over AWC, and finished it in February ... This year I've not nearly as much time for this and it's perfectly fine to stretch out things well into summer. I've planned so that there are a lot of "joker slots" with trivially to fill requirements such as must be G/PG/PG-13/R+ and the recent year based slots 2010-15 and 2016-2021. This is intentionally reserved to have room for any group watch decision which may come up. Within the narrower slots (e.g. "has a character with heterochromia") I start to burn down. And there is the Barbarian task with well over 200 eps which will take their time. So I'm in no rush, yet a mid-term plan what the group will watch is useful to schedule. Shows we'll never pick would come first, and if we agree on something but not on "when" yet, I can delay that.

Given that everybody seems to be happy with Run With the Wind, can we just nail it and schedule for "right after FruBa"? In any case I lock it, we'll get there until summer it seems.

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@inim @JokerVentura @filifjonkan @RandomFriday @Antalk @whiteflame55 @jdvz @KainiusTheGreat

I've tagged everyone who mentioned they might want to join in next group watch or is part of the current group watch. It's that time again, looking for the next possible show. Looking back at some of our older lists (@inim's message on 14th November) we have the following:

Kobato
Macross F
Sailor Moon
Joshiraku
Nadia and the Secret of Bluewater
Kokoro Connect

Then we have some new and interesting suggestions:

ACCA 13-Territory Inspection Dept.
Casshern Sins
Master Keaton

We've had a fair bit of drama in Fruits Basket and Run with the Wind, so something lighter, comedy or action may be nice, but I'm easy. Any suggestions welcome. My preference would be Kobato (I'm making my way through Clamp's works) or Macross F, but am happy to go with general consensus.
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That's an interesting list, I'd step back for Kokoro & Sailor Moon as I've watched those already.

Nadia, Acca & Master Keaton look the most interesting to me.

Suggestion wise as you mentioned comedy I'd put this forward, Watanabe is an interesting director.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/379/Heppoko_Jikken_Animation_Excel%E2%99%A5Saga?q=excel%20saga&cat=anime
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I'm happy with any of the entries named. Here's a simple voting mechanism suggestion. Everybody just marks the entries they have seen by [ s]...[/ s] (name1, name2, ...) tags when quoting. With a little luck, a few entries remain standing and we got a winner.

ACCA 13-Territory Inspection Dept.
Casshern Sins
Heppoko Jikken Animation Excel♥Saga
Joshiraku
Kobato
Kokoro Connect (JokerVentura)
Macross F
Master Keaton
Nadia and the Secret of Bluewater
Sailor Moon (JokerVentura)
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Hello and..

thanks for inviting me. I am in for the most of the shows that inim suggests, above this comment. Maybe Joshiraku gets an advance; it seems like an enjoyable show.. don dokko-dokko-don dokko-dokko-don..
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I haven't seen any of the shows listed so am happy to go with whatever we all haven't seen yet. Also like the look of Excel Saga.
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