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May 25, 2019 2:31 PM
#51
wait it for yourself, episode 7 or 8 is just around the corner and people here cannot answer you without spoiling what happened to the manga anyway |
May 25, 2019 2:51 PM
#52
crybabynes said: Nim0174 said: crybabynes said: CondemneDio said: It's not worth the wait in my opinion. Totally ruins the story from that point onward. I still don't know what it could be :|, but I don't think that the story is gonna be bad, I'm sure the basement is only a mere part of a bigger story and I hope so, because i think the story is amazingly intriguing, and the plot.. the plot of AoT is incredible. keep in mind he only read til chapter 96 which means he has no idea whats going on because of the way isayama tells the story the events start clearing up in chapter 100-110 which then reveals the bigger plot more clearly and introduces new mysteries in a different way So that is, I get it now. But don't people know that there must be some build up in any story? How could they judge something when it's not over yet? Like chapter 96 wasn't the end of the manga? I really don't get how rashly they judge. I said earlier, that I also got to see manga readers a while ago getting hyped for the chapters from 100 and so on. I have seen many titles on YouTube saying "chapter 114 is CRAZY" "Shingeki no Kyojin chapter 115!!!" With a lot of exciting words for the rest of the last chapters, so I'm sure that the manga is still so good or even much better. It got me to delete my YouTube account so I don't get spoiled lol. Wish season 4 would come sooner after this arc. Well its just preferences I personally liked the build up helped me look at a certain character in a different light which really adds to the later conflict. Though yeah once you start getting to CH 98 things start to really go down. Even with the current episode with Erwin I think chapter 100 or even this most recent chapter are on its level if not better but that is my own personal opinion. |
May 25, 2019 6:04 PM
#53
crybabynes said: If I was to be honest, the basement reveal in AoT is probably one of the best plot twists I've ever seen. It basically opens up everyone's eyes.I have been reading from some manga readers that they were disappointed by the basement reveal and tbh that scared me, I'm only-anime so I don't want any spoilers, I just want to know if the basement reveal will worth all that waiting? will it be good enough or will it affect SNK negatively? It could be a controversial reveal that some liked it and some disliked it but as far as I know some didn't like it, and I think that may have a bad feedback on the series, therefore, I just want to know what's the matter without spoiling it. Especially we're only a few episodes before learning it. |
May 25, 2019 7:16 PM
#54
As the others have said, the manga takes a while to build up after the basement reveal because what we find out from the basement opens a lot of room for development for the story and it needed time to build its foundations for the upcoming story. It's like the Uprising arc but on a larger scale where you're thrown off a bit by the shift in tone and different story direction, it's a puzzle where you don't see where it's going to go, but when the pieces come together they come together really well. There are some people who claim that Isayama is making asspulls and has no idea where the story is going and that is far from true. To this point the manga is still making references to small details from 20+ chapters ago, which is about 2years in terms of publication. |
May 25, 2019 8:01 PM
#55
I liked the basement reveal but prepare yourself for an overwhelming information |
May 25, 2019 8:05 PM
#56
Don't worry fam, the answer is simple. If you prefer a simple kind of story, you won't like it, but if you like it to be really well-written and foreshadowed since the very beginning, serious kind of story that approaches sensitive topics, mind-blowing, exciting, hype, and very very very detailed to the point that some epic spins off novels or series could be produced out of it.. in this case you will love it. :)) |
May 25, 2019 9:39 PM
#57
nekoeren said: It was because of the basement reveal that SnK became one of my favorite manga ever.The next arc after the reveal is even better, in my opinion, it's my favorite. Right. It just gets better and better, and I prefer the legendary story and mysteries over action.. although action is epic! |
May 25, 2019 11:29 PM
#58
tbh this new season of AOT isnt completely uninteristing and seems promising. |
I have unpopular opinions |
May 25, 2019 11:42 PM
#59
I honestly liked the basement reveal more than the first half of the arc when I first read it. |
May 26, 2019 12:50 AM
#60
keragamming said: CondemneDio said: keragamming said: @CondemneDio Thought you were up to date with the manga, but I've now realise thanks to @Nim0174 that you are only at chapter 96, now I'm going to say that is a premature judgement you made after only reading 6 chapters of the last arc, you literally stop reading it 2 chapters before that arc starts to really get in the mood. Most people including myself didn't think those chapters were hype in the slightest and I have notice seeing plenty of people putting the manga on hold or dropping it between chapter 91 to 97, literally before shit hits the fan. Now if you are caught up or atleast read up to chapter 106 and you still don't like it, then you can make those criticism, but its really unfair to judge a arc so quickly when you have seen less than half that arc. If it made my lose my interest, it made me lose my interest. No way around it. I decided to power-read through the remaining chapters once the manga is completed. By that time, maybe I'll change my mind, maybe I won't. That and uprising arc is pretty similar at the beginning but you were able to continue uprising arc? Or perhaps it was because of the focus on these new cast of characters? The new cast of total randoms was one reason it was super boring to me, but not the sole reason. |
May 26, 2019 1:36 AM
#61
CondemneDio said: keragamming said: CondemneDio said: keragamming said: @CondemneDio Thought you were up to date with the manga, but I've now realise thanks to @Nim0174 that you are only at chapter 96, now I'm going to say that is a premature judgement you made after only reading 6 chapters of the last arc, you literally stop reading it 2 chapters before that arc starts to really get in the mood. Most people including myself didn't think those chapters were hype in the slightest and I have notice seeing plenty of people putting the manga on hold or dropping it between chapter 91 to 97, literally before shit hits the fan. Now if you are caught up or atleast read up to chapter 106 and you still don't like it, then you can make those criticism, but its really unfair to judge a arc so quickly when you have seen less than half that arc. If it made my lose my interest, it made me lose my interest. No way around it. I decided to power-read through the remaining chapters once the manga is completed. By that time, maybe I'll change my mind, maybe I won't. That and uprising arc is pretty similar at the beginning but you were able to continue uprising arc? Or perhaps it was because of the focus on these new cast of characters? The new cast of total randoms was one reason it was super boring to me, but not the sole reason. i didn't like that either initially just read chapter 96-100, if ur interest doesnt even remotely get picked by then - which i guaruantee it will, or well maybe it won't, but for the majority it does - then by all means keep criticising it all u want if it makes u happy the new characters grow on you throughout the Arc maybe another reason u didn't like it that there is a time skip and isayama fills in the events that happen from eren & Cos perspective later on in that timeframe at least that kinda bugged me before i read through those chapters |
You son of a .. turtle |
May 26, 2019 1:39 AM
#62
Nim0174 said: CondemneDio said: keragamming said: CondemneDio said: keragamming said: @CondemneDio Thought you were up to date with the manga, but I've now realise thanks to @Nim0174 that you are only at chapter 96, now I'm going to say that is a premature judgement you made after only reading 6 chapters of the last arc, you literally stop reading it 2 chapters before that arc starts to really get in the mood. Most people including myself didn't think those chapters were hype in the slightest and I have notice seeing plenty of people putting the manga on hold or dropping it between chapter 91 to 97, literally before shit hits the fan. Now if you are caught up or atleast read up to chapter 106 and you still don't like it, then you can make those criticism, but its really unfair to judge a arc so quickly when you have seen less than half that arc. If it made my lose my interest, it made me lose my interest. No way around it. I decided to power-read through the remaining chapters once the manga is completed. By that time, maybe I'll change my mind, maybe I won't. That and uprising arc is pretty similar at the beginning but you were able to continue uprising arc? Or perhaps it was because of the focus on these new cast of characters? The new cast of total randoms was one reason it was super boring to me, but not the sole reason. i didn't like that either initially just read chapter 96-100, if ur interest doesnt even remotely get picked by then - which i guaruantee it will, or well maybe it won't, but for the majority it does - then by all means keep criticising it all u want if it makes u happy the new characters grow on you throughout the Arc maybe another reason u didn't like it that there is a time skip and isayama fills in the events that happen from eren & Cos perspective later on in that timeframe at least that kinda bugged me before i read through those chapters I'll read it once the story is concluded. SnK is pretty low on my priority list at the moment. |
May 26, 2019 5:05 AM
#63
The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. |
May 26, 2019 5:18 AM
#64
Blarey said: The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. Its stupid how? Its a well crafted plot device thats been foreshadowed for a long time that changes the way the story is told in a really interesting manner imo when it got revealed in the manga. With this logic of yours, I can say any reveal you've been waiting for a long time for is stupid, but I wont. Not trying to be rude I just want an actual explanation rather than "its stupid" |
May 26, 2019 5:39 AM
#65
Weebover9000 said: Blarey said: The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. Its stupid how? Its a well crafted plot device thats been foreshadowed for a long time that changes the way the story is told in a really interesting manner imo when it got revealed in the manga. With this logic of yours, I can say any reveal you've been waiting for a long time for is stupid, but I wont. Not trying to be rude I just want an actual explanation rather than "its stupid" It's bad writing and a plot device used to drag the story |
May 26, 2019 5:45 AM
#66
Blarey said: Weebover9000 said: Blarey said: The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. Its stupid how? Its a well crafted plot device thats been foreshadowed for a long time that changes the way the story is told in a really interesting manner imo when it got revealed in the manga. With this logic of yours, I can say any reveal you've been waiting for a long time for is stupid, but I wont. Not trying to be rude I just want an actual explanation rather than "its stupid" It's bad writing and a plot device used to drag the story Saying its bad writing doesnt really explain anything, but it has been a plot device since ep 1 and one of the main goals of the story so not reaching or using that eventual goal would be actual bad writing. Although its your opinion and I'll respect it just to prevent any arguments |
Weebover9000May 26, 2019 5:49 AM
May 26, 2019 6:24 AM
#67
Blarey said: Weebover9000 said: Blarey said: The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. Its stupid how? Its a well crafted plot device thats been foreshadowed for a long time that changes the way the story is told in a really interesting manner imo when it got revealed in the manga. With this logic of yours, I can say any reveal you've been waiting for a long time for is stupid, but I wont. Not trying to be rude I just want an actual explanation rather than "its stupid" It's bad writing and a plot device used to drag the story Dude not because you don't like snk, doesn't mean you should be unfairly criticizing it, you have one piece in your favorite list, which means you have no problem with plot device and stories dragging on, one piece has been dragging on for decades now! @CondemneDio Look you have a brother, someone else who stops reading snk at chapter 96, its sad the amount of people that drop or put the series on hold on that number. @Weebover9000 He is a one piece fan, he has no problem with plot device or stories dragging on as long as he loves that series, but if he doesn't like it then he will be a hypocrite and criticize another series for revealing its truth way earlier than one piece at this point the author may die before revealing the truth for one piece. |
May 26, 2019 6:39 AM
#69
Blarey said: Weebover9000 said: Blarey said: The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. Its stupid how? Its a well crafted plot device thats been foreshadowed for a long time that changes the way the story is told in a really interesting manner imo when it got revealed in the manga. With this logic of yours, I can say any reveal you've been waiting for a long time for is stupid, but I wont. Not trying to be rude I just want an actual explanation rather than "its stupid" It's bad writing and a plot device used to drag the story Dude u have no problem in one piece being 900+ chapters long and then u complain aot's basement reveal is a plot device and drags the story. Are u a troll or what? And if u think basement reveal is a bad writing and drags on the story, explain to us why do u think so. |
May 26, 2019 7:07 AM
#70
@keragamming @titanslayer18 Let's not compare the scale of One Piece to the basement of SnK, Eren knows where the basement is and it's not even that far away. |
May 26, 2019 7:15 AM
#71
Blarey said: @keragamming @titanslayer18 Let's not compare the scale of One Piece to the basement of SnK, Eren knows where the basement is and it's not even that far away. Getting to it is another issue all together cause obviously you are going to have enemies to prevent you from reaching your goal, thats the whole point of having villains in a story, ex: reiner and bert when they heard erwin parade how important the basement is during the scout recruitment in season one, also we have the right to compare it since your gripe about the aot anime is it being dragged on with a plot device, where some arcs like dressrosa in one piece were way longer than they needed to be. |
Weebover9000May 26, 2019 7:20 AM
May 26, 2019 8:27 AM
#72
keragamming said: @CondemneDio Look you have a brother, someone else who stops reading snk at chapter 96, its sad the amount of people that drop or put the series on hold on that number. lol k Is that all you wanted to say? |
May 26, 2019 8:30 AM
#73
It's bad writing and a plot device used to drag the story[/quote] Funseco said: The basement reveal is a pleb filter I can only agree, it weeds out the peasants. Blarey said: Weebover9000 said: Blarey said: The fact that people have really been waiting years for something as stupid as a "basement reveal" is baffling to me. Its stupid how? Its a well crafted plot device thats been foreshadowed for a long time that changes the way the story is told in a really interesting manner imo when it got revealed in the manga. With this logic of yours, I can say any reveal you've been waiting for a long time for is stupid, but I wont. Not trying to be rude I just want an actual explanation rather than "its stupid" It's bad writing and a plot device used to drag the story You do not get to say that. You have One Piece in your favourites. The most ridiculously slow paced Story in the History of Humanity. People can travel around the World twice in the time frame of One Arc Every Episode contains 10 Minutes of Previous Episode Recaps or Flashbacks Conversations are dragged out unnecessarily long 3 minute actual Content. Genius. Blarey said: @keragamming @titanslayer18 Let's not compare the scale of One Piece to the basement of SnK, Eren knows where the basement is and it's not even that far away. The Fact the Location of the One Piece is unknown is used as Plot Device to drag the Story out unnecessarily long. Its bad writing. |
Nim0174May 26, 2019 8:37 AM
You son of a .. turtle |
May 26, 2019 9:48 AM
#74
Nim0174 said: b] The Fact the Location of the One Piece is unknown is used as Plot Device to drag the Story out unnecessarily long. Its bad writing.[/b] It's literally the point of One Piece. And what you're referring to is the anime, which I agree is unnecessarily long, but it's not "bad writing" on the author's part. I can see that you haven't read or watched any of One Piece before judging it. Genius. |
May 26, 2019 10:17 AM
#75
shadowblaster5 said: Nim0174 said: The Fact the Location of the One Piece is unknown is used as Plot Device to drag the Story out unnecessarily long. Its bad writing. It's literally the point of One Piece. And what you're referring to is the anime, which I agree is unnecessarily long, but it's not "bad writing" on the author's part. I can see that you haven't read or watched any of One Piece before judging it. Genius. I watched 840+ Episodes right up to Big Moms Party just because its not in my list does not mean i haven't watched it Genius. on top of that it was sarcasm countering the bullshit that imbecile up there spouted. Genius. |
You son of a .. turtle |
May 26, 2019 10:24 AM
#76
The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. |
May 26, 2019 10:58 AM
#77
The writing is objectively great because it connects everything and all the previous events make sense. Idc if someone didnt like it lol. O was personally mind blown with how brilliant it is. |
May 26, 2019 11:46 AM
#78
Can confirm. I rewatched the series after the reveal and there were a lot of foreshadowings. I was like, "why could I not figure it out". I did not think much of this series but I figured it is one of the best series to get most out of a rewatch. For example, you can notice Erwin is in the first episode of season 1. Wonder who else is in the first episode... But in addition to tonal shift, the start of the next arc is a bit slow-paced as others said. There were 5 chapters like this and it is a huge deal for monthly serialized manga. That can be why people dropped this. |
OonokamiMay 26, 2019 11:56 AM
May 26, 2019 1:56 PM
#79
Honestly people have different tastes, if you like quick paced, action filled typical shonen anime, then you probably won't enjoy it as much. But if you're the type that enjoys a show that provokes deep thinking and morally ambiguous themes, then you are really going to like it. I've seen people say that AOT really turns in to more of a Seinen than Shonen show, and I agree. It's really to your own opinion, personally, I loved it! But if you don't, I can understand the reasons. But genuinely, Isayama has outdone him self with the manga, it exceeded my expectations. |
May 27, 2019 2:13 AM
#80
Basically if you love action packed manichean Shonen but don't like Seinen genre with heavy stuff, morally gray characters, POV shifting |
Batora07May 27, 2019 2:16 AM
May 27, 2019 2:58 AM
#81
SSTHZero said: The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. The reveal kills it ? Even though it was hinted and forshadowed on what it would be. What did people expect it to be there's only one thing it could have been |
May 27, 2019 3:57 AM
#82
To be honest it depends on your taste? Some people may like it and some may not and the revelation of everything that happened in the basement just made everything clear, it was not something great that people created so hype about but after the basement arc I ended up liking the manga even more because everything made much more sense. I instantly became Isayama's fan. But yes there are people who are disappointed with it (ofcourse they have their own reason) so at the end of the day it *depends* you just need to wait maybe, hope you like the basement arc :) . |
sevshiroMay 27, 2019 7:01 AM
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May 27, 2019 5:42 AM
#83
sevshiro said: To be honest it depends on your taste? Some people may like it and some may not and the revelation of everything that happened in the basement just made everything clear, it was not something great that people created so hype about but after the basement arc I even ended up liking the manga even more because everything made much more sense. I instantly became Isayama's fan. But yes there are people who are disappointed with it (ofcourse they have their own reason) so at the end of the day it *depends* you just need to wait maybe, hope you like the basement arc :) . They must have been dispointed at how realistic the reveal was |
May 27, 2019 6:34 AM
#84
As I like to say, the only people who dislikes the basement twist either don't get it (nor really try thinking about it too much, much less rereading to see how everything was leading up to it majestically), or just wanted the whole thing to be about killing titans and surviving, instead of evolving into something far deeper, clever and legitimately thought-provoking. And it was all foreshadowed from the start and fits the whole setting perfectly with all of the explanations. Some may even argue "oh, the pacing is too slow and I don't like the new multiple narrative perspectives", but that's quite minor overall and beyond necessary to develop the later part of the next arc (and anyway, it's for like 6 chapters after the basement reveal and after that, once reaching the actual meat of the plot, it's purely made of amazing twists and turns that go topping each other every month since the latest arc began). Also: tzarye14 said: A lot of people didn't like the basement because it was hard to swallow even tho everything was basically foreshadows in the manga (the anime is made even bigger foreshadow and fix some mistakes). There's also just to much for you to understand in one read. While the anime is definitely gonna simplify some aspects I suggest rewatching the episodes so you catch everything. It might also be troublesome to not have the next season coming out right after this one cause the explanations would help a lot. There weren't any mistakes in the manga. Isayama just felt like it wasn't as fluid and well paced as he hoped it to be, leading him to be disappointing at his own work until the end of that arc. And if anything, the anime adaptation proved his point wrong, since by making the pacing faster, the storytelling more shuffled like the early storytelling of the manga instead of the chronologically straight-to-the-point we had and all of the cuts (including proper character development for some of the secondary cast and overall some hints and presentation of foreshadowing elements) made the adaptation not only a bit convoluted, but also less substantial. If you check the older threads and discussions on reddit by manga readers, you will see some reaching the same end, and concluding the manga version to be the better version despite the extra nods here and there by the anime. |
DanpmssMay 27, 2019 6:49 AM
May 27, 2019 6:55 AM
#85
Honestly now that the manga has let the reveal sit for a good few years and Isayama's proven he's an actual competent writer, I can safely say the basement reveal is one of the best reveals I've seen in a manga. The way the story changes into something complex but genuinely well-written and unique is what makes me think AoT will be remembered as a classic. The basement reveal and stuff like the absolutely fantastic 100th chapter are what elevates the series from being simply "great" to being god-tier. Tbh genuinely agree with the people who say that the only reason it's disliked is because the series from that point onwards completely removes itself from any shounen roots at all, which if you genuinely can't enjoy stuff that requires you to think a bit more is a deal-breaker I guess. It's such an ambitious manga that's writing is so strong you have foreshadowing linked from the very first chapters all the way to current ones. There's no asspulls, everything is connected and everything has a purpose, the themes of the story and the way the characters have become so fleshed out that there truly isn't black/white morality anymore is what makes this a modern classic in the making. If the story committed instead to just being hype battles and titan-killing until the end it'd probably still be fun but it wouldn't be as impactful or memorable as it is now, and a lot of people agree since SnK's volumes consistently sell very highly. |
ModernoirMay 27, 2019 7:08 AM
May 27, 2019 7:01 AM
#86
Modernoir said: Honestly now that the manga has let the reveal sit for a good few years and Isayama's proven he's an actual competent writer, I can safely say the basement reveal is one of the best reveals I've seen in a manga. The way the story changes into something complex but genuinely well-written and unique is what makes me think AoT will be remembered as a classic. The basement reveal and stuff like the absolutely fantastic 100th chapter are what elevates the series from being simply "great" to being god-tier. Oh yeah, we mostly don't talk much about chapter 100 since it's heavy spoiler territory, but it's where the final act of the story begins with a BANG that never weared off thus far and just keep escalating from then on. |
May 27, 2019 7:04 AM
#87
Will there be fighting scenes after the reveal or it will be like s3 part 1 just storytelling? |
May 27, 2019 7:13 AM
#88
Danpmss said: Modernoir said: Honestly now that the manga has let the reveal sit for a good few years and Isayama's proven he's an actual competent writer, I can safely say the basement reveal is one of the best reveals I've seen in a manga. The way the story changes into something complex but genuinely well-written and unique is what makes me think AoT will be remembered as a classic. The basement reveal and stuff like the absolutely fantastic 100th chapter are what elevates the series from being simply "great" to being god-tier. Oh yeah, we mostly don't talk much about chapter 100 since it's heavy spoiler territory, but it's where the final act of the story begins with a BANG that never weared off thus far and just keep escalating from then on. I can understand if people don't really like buildup chapters (I can't, actually, I thought they were necessary and the POV switch was perfect for setting up the last arc) but good lord, chapter 100 and the chapters after it are legendary. I've watched fan animations of those chapters too many times to count. narun said: Will there be fighting scenes after the reveal or it will be like s3 part 1 just storytelling? A healthy mix of both. The writing is incredibly strong but takes its time so the payoff can hit like an explosion. Not necessarily a huge spoiler but the series has one of its biggest-scale battles it's ever gotten in chapters 100-106 and the current chapters are also setting up a huge one too. It makes the fodder-titan fights in the earlier seasons look like childs play. |
May 27, 2019 7:13 AM
#89
narun said: Will there be fighting scenes after the reveal or it will be like s3 part 1 just storytelling? There will be a whole bunch of every major element in the story together, in their highest stakes yet. Believe me on that and, more than anything, brace yourself for quite a ride. |
May 27, 2019 11:57 AM
#90
@Modernoir lol u forgot the first battle chapter 90-91 already starts with some action :P which would be episode 1, its just episode 2-4 would be storytelling, episode 6 starts the madness and carnage :D &&& Assuming the same Pacing at 2 chapters per episode |
You son of a .. turtle |
May 27, 2019 4:14 PM
#91
Personally I didn't think it was a big deal but neither did it ruin the story in any way. I agree with people saying that the story gets more complex from then on out and maybe some people so not like to think that hard, idk. |
May 27, 2019 4:22 PM
#92
Mattinator95 said: SSTHZero said: The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. The reveal kills it ? Even though it was hinted and forshadowed on what it would be. What did people expect it to be there's only one thing it could have been Yes, it was hinted, but it was with the reveal we really understood everything. And it killed the series. I didn't know what I expected, but that "truth" is horrible and everything that happened after it was bad in my useless opinion. Everything connects, everything makes sense, but that doesn't make it good. |
May 27, 2019 4:25 PM
#93
SSTHZero said: Mattinator95 said: SSTHZero said: The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. The reveal kills it ? Even though it was hinted and forshadowed on what it would be. What did people expect it to be there's only one thing it could have been Yes, it was hinted, but it was with the reveal we really understood everything. And it killed the series. I didn't know what I expected, but that "truth" is horrible and everything that happened after it was bad in my useless opinion. Everything connects, everything makes sense, but that doesn't make it good. Preach it brother. Fans can easily forget the perspective of someone without prior bias / less bias of other people. |
May 27, 2019 4:55 PM
#94
CondemneDio said: I don't think it particularly has to do with being biased due to previous investments in the series, but rather of different preferences. SSTHZero said: Mattinator95 said: SSTHZero said: The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. The reveal kills it ? Even though it was hinted and forshadowed on what it would be. What did people expect it to be there's only one thing it could have been Yes, it was hinted, but it was with the reveal we really understood everything. And it killed the series. I didn't know what I expected, but that "truth" is horrible and everything that happened after it was bad in my useless opinion. Everything connects, everything makes sense, but that doesn't make it good. Preach it brother. Fans can easily forget the perspective of someone without prior bias / less bias of other people. The basement reveal was a major turning point in the series, and after which the tone and focus of the series shifted massively. Being no longer action and mystery centred. This is of course is going to turn some people away, because they prefer a different genre and the change in the series is just not for them. Despite being a previous fan or not. It is absolutely okay that they come to this conclusion about the change, and I understand where it comes from. I know many previous fans that turned away from the series after the change, so it's a little unfair to say that all fans have a biased view. It's all up to personal preferences. |
May 27, 2019 6:21 PM
#95
SSTHZero said: Mattinator95 said: SSTHZero said: The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. The reveal kills it ? Even though it was hinted and forshadowed on what it would be. What did people expect it to be there's only one thing it could have been Yes, it was hinted, but it was with the reveal we really understood everything. And it killed the series. I didn't know what I expected, but that "truth" is horrible and everything that happened after it was bad in my useless opinion. Everything connects, everything makes sense, but that doesn't make it good. Well, even if you dislike the outcome (not at all the case of most readers, but nobody can judge you on that, since it comes into a very subjective territory of whether you like or not the direction it went on), you can't really deny the quality of the writing, execution and consistency that lead to where it was headed to. Saying it is straight bad is kinda generalizing its qualities towards your personal expectations of what you wanted the series to become imo (then again, I'm nearly making assumptions for the lack of specific information in your point of view, so feel free to detail if you may). It's kinda similar to the reaction people had with Umineko way back in the day, except Shingeki got its twist better accepted from the get-go, while Umineko took quite some years of mostly hate before becoming a masterpiece in the eyes of the majority of the visual novel community, so yeah, I can see where the argument comes from (in that case, theorizing was also a big part of the experience to a VAST extent, so much that many fans I know consider Shingeki to be a manga second coming of a sort to have fun with in some regards, especially the absolutely drastic changes of perspective it brought to the table at some points). |
DanpmssMay 27, 2019 6:26 PM
May 27, 2019 7:03 PM
#96
CondemneDio said: Damn savage ass reply lol.SSTHZero said: Mattinator95 said: SSTHZero said: The reveal kills the series. Everything after that point is manga/anime suicide. I'm still reading it just to finish the series, but if it get an anime version in the future, I'll probably not watch it. BTW, after the reveal, we get a really, reallyyyyyyyyyyy sloooooooooow start for the next arc. The reveal kills it ? Even though it was hinted and forshadowed on what it would be. What did people expect it to be there's only one thing it could have been Yes, it was hinted, but it was with the reveal we really understood everything. And it killed the series. I didn't know what I expected, but that "truth" is horrible and everything that happened after it was bad in my useless opinion. Everything connects, everything makes sense, but that doesn't make it good. Preach it brother. Fans can easily forget the perspective of someone without prior bias / less bias of other people. |
May 27, 2019 7:05 PM
#97
If I was to be honest, the basement reveal is probably one of the best marketing decisions made for a manga. It really just paved a whole new path for AoT in general with thousands of different possibilities for its future. |
May 28, 2019 7:17 AM
#98
"WWII-like" images tend to be not appreciated by "anime-internet people" ("unoriginal" they said if I remember well). It's pretty funny since this kind of parallels (or old facist regimes used as models) is often well regarded in more "respectable" fictions. But it was all okay, some of it was already evident/logical, the rest fitted well. edited Some people mentioned the other reason: the "evolution" of the story. Just like people were lost at the transition anime 1st series / manga because it lacked the over-excitement over-thrilling tone of the adaptation, just like other "fans" disappeared when it shifted to power intrigues / "politics" (with a minor p), etc. Also, thanks @CondemneDio I guess (even though I gave away nothing that happened) |
Rei_IIIMay 28, 2019 10:03 PM
May 28, 2019 7:54 AM
#99
Rei366 said: ... You might want to put some parts of your post inside spoiler tags. The title clearly says no spoilers. |
May 28, 2019 8:29 AM
#100
I honestly can't wait for the discussion threads for the next three episodes. Sure gonna be a pollfest. And I will finally be able to discuss, since I read the manga too late to even be able to make assumptions from that point onwards. I know what happens, but when it happens in the anime it's even better... maybe we will no longer see that 9.04 score this season. |
"Manga readers are annoying, all they do is complain or spoil the anime we discuss in an anime forum. They should really do their whining at manga forums." Stolen from Janethan23. Add in visual novel readers too |
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