Hunter_Garou said: AniMEHLover said: It doesnt need to be accurate for you I just stated my reasons why its overrated. I am not wrong. We just have different perspectives. If you can prove me wrong, then do it. Not just say I am wrong and stretch it out for 3 sentences to look intelligent. Prove you wrong ? Okay ! 1) The goal of the series has been Mob developing as a person. In season 2 during his dream fight with Mogami, he realizes how much his friends mean to him and he gets a development, before he only could his ESP when he was having a negative emotion pile up but now he get's 100% happiness proving he is learning to be more happy and appreciative about what those around him mean to him (Character Development/growth) 2) The storyline of this anime so far is having powers doesn't make you superior to others, that's literally the main theme of the story, Mob first learns that in his first meeting with Reigen and he never forgets that advice. So he strives forward to grow as he started off as an awkward kid with no friends and no stamina but he is constantly developing even through his battles. He learns how to live as a person without relying on powers which according to Reigen doesn't make them superior to others.(It has a storyline) 3) Uses a lot of cliches(Every form of entertainment has some form of cliche in it, it depends on execution, Mob Psycho 100 does it right, which is why it's such a great show) 4) I mean art is subjective, it's not the best art but it's not bad either because it's very smooth, it shows great visuals which are like eye candy, it's definitely a good art style. 5) Not boring, Very interesting and ONE's comedy style is just so hilarious. I love ONE's comedy both in OPM and MOB PSYCHO 100. 6) I mean the story is not garbage since it makes absolute sense and works very well so the action also works because of that. "Yep it doesn't deserve 8.79 mean score" You are right, it deserves an 8.90 or a 9.00. Mob Psycho is such a great series. 1.) You have a point but I think my standards for a character development might be too high (thx to Meruem from HxH, Tamura Reiko from Parasyte, and some characters from Gintama) that I refuse to acknowledge Mob's character development as great. It was average for me and not really impressive. Thus I might've refused to acknowledge it as an development. Mob is still bland for me though. 2.) That's not how I see Mob Psycho honestly. To me it was like A random villain appear-fight-struggle-win-annoying reigen scene-repeat. Call me blind or whatever you like. Mob Psycho's story is just never my cup of tea. 3.) It was executed in an average way for me again, not impressive. 4.) Art is subjective 5.) I was never a fan of ONE's humor (maybe Sorachi raised the bar too high again) 6.) Refer to No.2 I watched Mob Psycho late in my "anime time" and prior watching to Mob Psycho I have already touched a lot of masterpieces and it obviously cannot compare to those. Thus, I call it overrated. One example is Mob Psycho having higher ratings than Monster (an absolute gem in anime). |
TruceeFeb 26, 2019 6:44 AM
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Hunter_Garou said: AniMEHLover said: 1.) You have a point but I think my standards for a character development might be too high (thx to Meruem from HxH, Tamura Reiko from Parasyte, and some characters from Gintama) that I refuse to acknowledge Mob's character development as great. It was average for me and not really impressive. Thus I might've refused to acknowledge it as an development. Mob is still bland for me though. 2.) That's not how I see Mob Psycho honestly. To me it was like A random villain appear-fight-struggle-win-annoying reigen scene-repeat. Call me blind or whatever you like. Mob Psycho's story is just never my cup of tea. 3.) It was executed in an average way for me again, not impressive. 4.) Art is subjective 5.) I was never a fan of ONE's humor (maybe Sorachi raised the bar too high again) 6.) Refer to No.2 I watched Mob Psycho late in my "anime time" and prior watching to Mob Psycho I have already touched a lot of masterpieces and it obviously cannot compare to those. Thus, I call it overrated. One example is Mob Psycho having higher ratings than Monster (an absolute gem in anime). 1) Oh, I see, you are just stubborn so you don't want to recognize greatness even when it stares you in the face, that's quite the predicament you got there. 2) Refer to no. 1 3) FOR YOU, at least others appreciate great execution. 4) Same 5) This having a bar too high concept just seems like a very dumb/ridiculous concept that it restricts you from enjoying great series. It's quite sad to think about, I hope I never develop this illness that restricts me from enjoying good art and story. You see in MAL, when it gets from 8.00 and up, something that's rated 8.5 can be worse that something that's rated 8.16. The 8 area is a very tricky area, because mostly everything in the 8 area are mostly good(finished stuff not ongoing stuff) so the scores can be anywhere. 6) Refer to No. 2. Lets continue this privately since this is not a Mob Psycho thread |
TruceeFeb 26, 2019 6:44 AM
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| Because the first arc is a total mindfu#$. |
| I think most people don't try to keep up with the pace of the show patiently. So they get confused. Hence the low popularity, and lower score than it deserves. Btw I loved the old version of Boogiepop. Rewatching it from different angles and better animation makes me love this version too. (7.5-8)/10 show for me. |
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| I'm not surprised by the score. I just started watching it and I absolutely loved the atmosphere of the first episode, but if there's one thing I hate are works that hide a simple story over a chaotic narrative, and...this is honestly sounding like it, considering the little I know about the series and the second episode. There's nothing complex about a story where one look at the bigger picture is enough to clarify the questions it raised, because it betrays the sense of confusion it imposed on us. I just hope this ain't it, because I'm really liking it. |
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| I never get why people score a show that they drop. It's just dumb as hell. If you think it's shit, then watch it, and THEN score it shit. |
| I literally just caught up and this series doesn’t deserve to be this low. The first arc was confusing to keep track of, I had to look up some guides to help me understand all the time jumps. After the first arc I think it’s been great. Really interesting psychological mystery thriller. I’m really enjoying it now. The show demands you to think and keep track of things which may be too much to ask of the average MAL user ;) But this show is like Monogatari where it’s best to binge arcs one at a time. I’m glad I jumped on board now because watching this week to week would be a pain. I expect the score will increase once the show finishes and will probably continue to increase because a lot of people are waiting to binge it once it’s over. |
LoomyTheBrewMar 26, 2019 11:57 PM
| I'm enjoying it right now, quite a lot actually. But to be honest, i think its trying too hard. Its really not as "cOmPlEx and dEeP" as a few others are saying, but its kinda disappointing. I mean, it presents everything in a very complex way, and I thought that the conclusions to them would be very "CoMpLeX and dEeP" too, but instead I was like "Sooo...thats just it?" lol Plus it gets pretty BS sometimes with aliens like that echos guy, synthetic humans and mad scientists(Towa organization) so yeah its pretty funny too. I think the rating is a little bit lower, 7.4-7.6 would be better. Its definitely an above average, good anime. |
Satyr_icon said: I'm not surprised by the score. I just started watching it and I absolutely loved the atmosphere of the first episode, but if there's one thing I hate are works that hide a simple story over a chaotic narrative, and...this is honestly sounding like it, considering the little I know about the series and the second episode. There's nothing complex about a story where one look at the bigger picture is enough to clarify the questions it raised, because it betrays the sense of confusion it imposed on us. I just hope this ain't it, because I'm really liking it. Couldn't agree more |
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NothinComplexPls said: I mean, it presents everything in a very complex way, and I thought that the conclusions to them would be very "CoMpLeX and dEeP" too, but instead I was like "Sooo...thats just it?" lol Yeah, my thoughts exactly. The first episode was perfect, the OST is so dreamy and even if I didn't understand anything I was completely blown away by it, the entirety of it was just beautiful. And then the second episode came and...aliens and evil government organisations. Wait, that's it? I fear the only thing that will grip me is the mood of the series, if that doesn't change. I dunno, I just feel I've seen this whole premise too many times already. |
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blmatsu said: That's because it's no longer "Currently Airing" and ratings from people who've seen less than 20% of it (4 eps) don't count towards the aggregate score. Happens with everything.See, I knew it. The rating jumped up today. It was 7.03 yesterday. Now, it's already 7.23. |
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| Ahhh it's nice to see these elitist posts saying it's because other people are stupid or uncultured... I'm sure that's a great selling point if your an obnoxious cretin. Maybe some people don't like it or it's not for them. It really isn't the perfect anime by any stretch, feel the conclusions to the arcs are a little underwhelming, but I have enjoyed it overall and it has the best soundtrack of the season hands-down. The characters designs could have been better, it could be hard to tell some apart. Think you definitely need to binge the arcs as I watched it weekly and it doesn't seem the best way of tackling this series. 7/10 is exactly what i gave it. It's good, but not great. And why are people bashing Mob? How does that make your argument better for this series? That's just sad. Totally different types of series for one! Boogiepop isn't a shonen so how can you compare. |
| Can I offer you an egg is this trying time? |
papsoshea said: No doubt, some of the replies above are nauseating in their pomposityAndy_Roo_45 said: Hardcore Boogiepop fans are pretentious overthinkers.Ahhh it's nice to see these elitist posts saying it's because other people are stupid or uncultured... I'm sure that's a great selling point if your an obnoxious cretin. Maybe some people don't like it or it's not for them. It really isn't the perfect anime by any stretch, feel the conclusions to the arcs are a little underwhelming, but I have enjoyed it overall and it has the best soundtrack of the season hands-down. The characters designs could have been better, it could be hard to tell some apart. Think you definitely need to binge the arcs as I watched it weekly and it doesn't seem the best way of tackling this series. 7/10 is exactly what i gave it. It's good, but not great. And why are people bashing Mob? How does that make your argument better for this series? That's just sad. Totally different types of series for one! Boogiepop isn't a shonen so how can you compare. |
| Can I offer you an egg is this trying time? |
papsoshea said: Andy_Roo_45 said: Hardcore Boogiepop fans are pretentious overthinkers.Ahhh it's nice to see these elitist posts saying it's because other people are stupid or uncultured... I'm sure that's a great selling point if your an obnoxious cretin. Maybe some people don't like it or it's not for them. It really isn't the perfect anime by any stretch, feel the conclusions to the arcs are a little underwhelming, but I have enjoyed it overall and it has the best soundtrack of the season hands-down. The characters designs could have been better, it could be hard to tell some apart. Think you definitely need to binge the arcs as I watched it weekly and it doesn't seem the best way of tackling this series. 7/10 is exactly what i gave it. It's good, but not great. And why are people bashing Mob? How does that make your argument better for this series? That's just sad. Totally different types of series for one! Boogiepop isn't a shonen so how can you compare. I would say some people calling other people pretentious are the ones full of themselves pretending to know better, but suit your own thoughts in your review I guess. Oh yeah, about that, try reading this TV Tropes article on "Show don't Tell", talking about it. Kinda reminds me way back in the early 00s, people calling GitS:SAC, Tehxnolyze and Evangelion pretentious just because they require you to think a bit about the content and rewatch some episodes here and there. Andy_Roo_45 said: papsoshea said: No doubt, some of the replies above are nauseating in their pomposityHardcore Boogiepop fans are pretentious overthinkers. This exchange is especially ironic btw, my dear noblemen :v Don't try calling out wannabe "know-it-all"s if you are going to act just like them, please. |
DanpmssMar 29, 2019 9:45 AM
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Daniel_Naumov said: Man, i haven't even watched this show, but really your comment is bullshit. You call the people on this site AVARAGE VIEWER just because they gave a 7/10 to a series that you like. Really? Do you believe you are superior, intelligent and "not avarage" like all the people that gave a 7? You seem a bit immature. "We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here", well, same as Steins;gate and it gets a 9.13. Have you seen the top rated animes in this site? First is Fullmetal alchemist that REALLY deals with philosophy and complex characters in a psychological way. And you can't prove me wrong because i studied philosophy all my life. "THE AVERAGE VIEWER IS DISAPPOINTED THERE IS NOT EXTREME ACTION AND VIOLENCE", mmm okkkk… But in the top rated animes we see Haikyuu, Sora Yori Mo Tooi Basho, Koe no Katachi, Violet Evergarden, 3-gatsu no lion… All of them are really "complex and mentally demanding" (like you say) because they're about bullying, acceptance, dreams, discrimination and DON'T contain EXTREME action or violence, however the ""avarage viewers"" (like you say) gave them 8.5/9. Stop defending the series you like claiming that others are average and too stupid to understand such deep and complex characters that you can understand and valorize because you are sooo smart… You even say that these fucking ratings in a fucking anime site "reflect the modern society and our reality" REALLY??? Do some stupid ratings REFLECT THE SOCIETY? Please, stop with this bullshit and "elitism"A serious question? A bit serious answer: Because the average (generic, grey mass, typical, ordinary) viewer who is both a main consumer in the Japanese animation industry and the one who votes the most on this particular site (everywhere else too I guess), does not like series like this. Why? Because the viewer is average. We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here. Most prefer sci-fi with sick explosions and battles on a cosmic scale, but instead here they get a discourse into human and its mind and heart. |
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| Holy shit. I need to go back to this show and join the fun. Love how people talk about the extreme complexity of this show like it invented non-linear narration and philosophical themes. I mean, what I saw was enjoyable and it does require a consistent effort to stay tuned -since I couldn't give it and ended up like 3-4 episodes behind, I put it on-hold- but that's rather due to its structure and continuity than the themes it has. And calm down, holy shit, no one ever would like to sell their show saying that it's too complex and difficult to understand. You are alienating the viewers as some sort of posers who brag about their intelligence and attention for detail like people give a fuck about how high their IQ is. Nowhere in this show it says that you need to be an asshat and/or prove yourself worthy to enjoy it. |
jal90Mar 29, 2019 12:24 PM
Daniel_Naumov said: jal90 said: Holy shit. I need to go back to this show and join the fun. Love how people talk about the extreme complexity of this show like it invented non-linear narration and philosophical themes. I mean, what I saw was enjoyable and it does require a consistent effort to stay tuned -since I couldn't give it and ended up like 3-4 episodes behind, I put it on-hold- but that's rather due to its structure and continuity than the themes it has. And calm down, holy shit, no one ever would like to sell their show saying that it's too complex and difficult to understand. You are alienating the viewers as some sort of posers who brag about their intelligence and attention for detail like people give a fuck about how high their IQ is. Nowhere in this show it says that you need to be an asshat and/or prove yourself worthy to enjoy it. The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations. I was talking about the author. Like, I imagine the author saying "you need to have an IQ of 200 to enjoy my show" and I can't help but laugh. This is really such an obvious fan thing that the creator would never sustain or defend seriously. And don't think that you can lecture me on what I watch, why and how should I watch it. Know your boundaries. |
| Haven't watched the Anime yet, but most people do not have good taste, that is why it is rated low. |
Daniel_Naumov said: "Unwanted" if you don't want replies then you shouldn't post your opinions in a public forum, don't you think? And i obviously read the Whole paragraph, in fact i quoted all the things you said in the beginning and in the end lmao. You literally said that the "average viewers" of this site only give 9/10 to series plenty of violence and action, and that they can't understand series with philosophical themes or psuchological complexity, that's why they give them 6 or 7. And I mentioned you complex and amazing series that don't contain extreme violence BUT are highly rated in this site. Reread your comment because i read it all and debated all that you said. It's YOU the one who didn't respond properly to what i said. Or maybe you just intentionally avoided it because i am right, mmmmm….Giulia14 said: Man, i haven't even watched this show, but really your comment is bullshit. You call the people on this site AVARAGE VIEWER just because they gave a 7/10 to a series that you like. Really? Do you believe you are superior, intelligent and "not avarage" like all the people that gave a 7? You seem a bit immature. "We are talking about a deep psychological and philosophical science fiction here", well, same as Steins;gate and it gets a 9.13. Have you seen the top rated animes in this site? First is Fullmetal alchemist that REALLY deals with philosophy and complex characters in a psychological way. And you can't prove me wrong because i studied philosophy all my life. "THE AVERAGE VIEWER IS DISAPPOINTED THERE IS NOT EXTREME ACTION AND VIOLENCE", mmm okkkk… But in the top rated animes we see Haikyuu, Sora Yori Mo Tooi Basho, Koe no Katachi, Violet Evergarden, 3-gatsu no lion… All of them are really "complex and mentally demanding" (like you say) because they're about bullying, acceptance, dreams, discrimination and DON'T contain EXTREME action or violence, however the ""avarage viewers"" (like you say) gave them 8.5/9. Stop defending the series you like claiming that others are average and too stupid to understand such deep and complex characters that you can understand and valorize because you are sooo smart… You even say that these fucking ratings in a fucking anime site "reflect the modern society and our reality" REALLY??? Do some stupid ratings REFLECT THE SOCIETY? Please, stop with this bullshit and "elitism" However unwanted, your response is an evidence to what I have said. You can call it "elitism", I call it "Not being an average, one dimensional mass consumer". If all goes well, one day you will understand what I was talking about. Maybe you will even be able to read the whole paragraph I have written. And also see this series. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: The thing is, we are not "selling a show", we are "discussing a series". It is not an entertainment product, as I have already stated. It is a piece of art that is not anyhow obliged to you, you are the one who comes to see it. Your overall attitude, again, proves me right in my estimations. Your whole attitude is so full of a sham and cute pomposity that I can't help but laugh. I'm enjoying the show but it gets me all snickering how much people are overestimating it. ...if you're not trolling, though, then your situation is just sad. |
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Daniel_Naumov said: As much funny the discourse into an average industry consumer is, as much sad you might or might not find my "situation", I said nothing that is not true and you evidently understand it, as you did not address my discourse but tried addressing my attitude. And you seem to be under a self-imposed mistaken impression I overestimate this series. Well, you should try and up your reading comprehension, you would really benefit from proper reading skills. Hey dude, that's some nice sophistry you got there. Too bad it won't really work here. I only addressed your attitude because I thought it was funny. Your discourse is way too shallow and generic for me to bother with it, honestly. |
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| And with final episode it gets the score it deserves. Complex storyline doesn't always mean masterpiece in everyones eyes but Boogiepop is at best decent. |
| "You can't spell slaughter without laughter". |
| I think it's a fair grade, its an ambitious but not mindblowing show with a few issues. MAL ratings are a joke anyway, any flavor of the season is overrated. Surprised boogiepop isn't below 7. |
| I like the setting of Boogiepop but my problem is the same as for the 2000 version of it, it is in many cases boring. There are a lot of problems with that show but for me the most problematic thing is the narrative and the characters. Boogiepop and Kirima Nagi are great but thats it the others are forgettable. The overall storyline is interesting but how they tell us the story is bad, i dont know if the novels are more detailed and better structures but i had the feeling this anime left out important details. I enjoyed even the wikia (boogiepop.fandom.com/wiki/Boogiepop_Wiki) way more than the anime itself. Some people here are stating that its complex or too complex for some people, but thats not true. If you read the wikia a little bit then the anime became much clearer, as stated how the anime is telling the story is the problem which is confusing, but confusing and complex is not the same and just saying its confusing so it must be complex is ridiculous. Besides the story telling and the characters i dont like the animation, it looks outdated. The music is great and some psychological and philosophical aspects are worth to keep on watching it. Overall the rating is fair. |
| Ego = 1 / Knowledge | "More the Knowledge Lesser the Ego, Lesser the Knowledge More the Ego." Albert Einstein My ratings:  |
| Some people are overthinking and overestimating this. This show isn't any complex, and it tries too hard that it ends up being overwhelming instead. JudoJD said: And people wonder why we're constantly getting trash battle shounen and isekai back to back to back to back to back Wish there were more shows like this but anime these days :( 77Anonymous__77 said: Most anime fans don’t like anime that make you think. They just want something like Boku no Hero Academia. It’s unfortunate, since this is a great series. But we can’t help it. I frankly prefer those kind of shows (even I'm sick of them too) over these shows that try hard and fail. Remerber that "complex and deep" not shounen/action shows may be bad too. |
Rhapsody-Mar 30, 2019 2:06 PM
Azazin said: I like the setting of Boogiepop but my problem is the same as for the 2000 version of it, it is in many cases boring. There are a lot of problems with that show but for me the most problematic thing is the narrative and the characters. Boogiepop and Kirima Nagi are great but thats it the others are forgettable. The overall storyline is interesting but how they tell us the story is bad, i dont know if the novels are more detailed and better structures but i had the feeling this anime left out important details. I enjoyed even the wikia (boogiepop.fandom.com/wiki/Boogiepop_Wiki) way more than the anime itself. Some people here are stating that its complex or too complex for some people, but thats not true. If you read the wikia a little bit then the anime became much clearer, as stated how the anime is telling the story is the problem which is confusing, but confusing and complex is not the same and just saying its confusing so it must be complex is ridiculous. Besides the story telling and the characters i dont like the animation, it looks outdated. The music is great and some psychological and philosophical aspects are worth to keep on watching it. Overall the rating is fair. Personally I think the animation was not bad. It gave the right vibe. Other than that, I agree with what you said. And some of this fanbase remindes me of the Rick and Morty stereotypical fanbase: "The average viewer just doesn't get it!" are you serious?! Yes, it does need a bit of focus, but after the first arc, it's not hard to follow. But if you feel smart about yourself for "getting it", then go ahead. This show wasn't bad, not at all, but the rating seems pretty normal. And for all the comments about "It's low because no Boom Boom! People no likey use brain", you have plenty of shows that don't have them and are high rated. (things like Violet Evergarden, mushishi, and yes, even Death Note) |
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| It was boring as fuck pretty much all the way through. I didn't get invested at all with the series, and I can name only one character in the whole show (bonus points to the first one to guess who). |
CondemneDio said: It was boring as fuck pretty much all the way through. I didn't get invested at all with the series, and I can name only one character in the whole show (bonus points to the first one to guess who). Spooky E. Did i guess correctly? |
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hakaihisaki said: CondemneDio said: It was boring as fuck pretty much all the way through. I didn't get invested at all with the series, and I can name only one character in the whole show (bonus points to the first one to guess who). Spooky E. Did i guess correctly? ...who was that? Ah, the weird guy with weird eyes. It's Boogiepop. And only because it's in the name of the anime, and it was uttered so many times during it. |
JudoJD said: As someone who cannot enjoy isekai/fantasy (and shounen battle, which I used to), I can relate with you. We really need more mystery/psychological series in anime medium, but since the former genres are much popular with the current demographics, you can expect which way the anime industry would choose to follow.Rhapsody- said: Some people are overthinking and overestimating this. This show isn't any complex, and it tries too hard that it ends up being overwhelming instead. I frankly prefer those kind of shows (even I'm sick of them too) over these shows that try hard and fail. Remerber that "complex and deep" not shounen/action shows may be bad too. >isn't any complex >ends up being overwhelming Trying what lol. Kadono's pretty straight forward. The show just did it's thing and bounced.. Obviously it's not for everyone (that's why you have someone thinking it's "trying so hard" to do anything when it's really not) and clearly it's not overwhelming to some people so the issue just boils down to the person watching (Yeah I know some people never want to consider the viewer's the issue and feel insulted by anyone pointing it out as it is usually with these kinds of shows... I still don't know what to tell the guy who said if the show is confusing to them then it's the show doing something wrong like lol...anyways the most popular shows of late speak for themselves...I don't expect certain people to enjoy,like or even think a show like this is good ..reeee insert insecure r/iamverysmart defense here...) The general reception to a show like this is pretty much what anyone who's spent 20 seconds in a general anime discussion group would expect. and yah...of course you do....like I said....of course you do... ....of course you do... |
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| the story is trying to hard to look deep but actually so shallow nothing keep us engaged in the middle of the arc, imagine watching 5 episode arc and that 4 episode worth nothing, always make me sleepy and have no interest to next episode and the finale conclude nothing to overall plot of the anime |
 MAL score and most user-based rating system are all joke, Imagine trusting plebs and hivemind. Find users who have good sense and rating and use them as a reference. Check my guide to rate Your taste is trash. Cope, seethe, mald |
| cool concept n the first few eps were good but idk i lost interest in the middle and just got really boring so i gave it a 6 |
| should be a 5 or 6 tbf |
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