| I'll be honest - I like fanservice - but not a huge fan of Ecchi. If the show can be highly entertaining/tell a great story, then I'll tolerate a few "suggestive" scenes here and there. However, if it starts to become the focus of the show, then it will become extremely soured for me. In essence - Does it add anything? I'll give a few examples of good, as well as bad fanservice. (Mostly) Bad: Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I love this show to death, but the first few episodes suffer a considerable amount because of some fanservice moments. The main reason being that it isn't funny - at all. Compare this to some moments in the latter half (where it is funny), and the difference is night and day. The worst offender is the Deserted Island arc which is not only boring, but leans too much on the fanservice. Good: Hyouka To be fair, this is "pushing" fanservice. To be frank, it's quite scarce throughout the show. However, when it does appear, not only is it humorous, but it adds to Oreki's characterization - notably in the OVA. It's hardly intruding, but meaningful. Great: Lupin III (Parts IV/V) Granted, this series benefits from having an adult cast, but the fanservice is woven in incredibly well. The character who receives the most fanservice (Fujiko), is not only very straight forward in regards to her "features", but acknowledges that it is a part of her being a female thief. Even then, she's a strong female protagonist who can stand up for herself, so it's not like she's being looked down upon. The best part is that the show has no intention of hiding it - It won't beat around the bush. It knows it has fanservice, and the audience will certainly come to expect it. VERY Bad: Your Name. Outside of one funny joke (that is then overplayed many, many times), the fanservice is atrocious. It doesn't add much, if at all. Even in scenarios where I don't like it (Haruhi Suzumiya), you could argue that it serves some sort of purpose. In Your Name, it simply doesn't. Overall, in my eyes, with very few exceptions, fanservice is fine as long it is brief and it's not actually brought to attention in the show. Otherwise, it must serve a purpose, whether it be comedy or context within the show. As for Ecchi, I'm not a fan of the genre, as it is mostly hard to watch. That said, if you want that kind of thing then whatever. What does annoy me, is that even in shows meant to be of this genre, they still attempt to hide parts of it. I mean, aren't you trying to appeal to a specific audience? |
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Mhh, I wonder. I mean from a evolutional-anatomical point of view you make a reasonable claim. But I think "Balls"* are something people use to "show off". And ovaries are not really something you can "show off"? On the other hand, boobs are considered something to be "proud of" I guess? (Kinda nonsensical in modern society I guess, but well...) *especially in the "grow some balls" phrase  |
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RealGromo said: In some cases, such as Bakemonogatari. Where the fanservice is present, the fanservice works so well because a scene you think is just a fanservice, but it's much more than that. The fanservice in Bakemonogatari is part of the narrative. He not only entertains people who just want to see the fan service, but also develops characters, moves the script and builds new relationships. Fanservices like this are extremely acceptable and should not be hated. Now fanservices where it is simply to please the public, where it has no use whatsoever, is based on ridiculous situations that arose for convenience. Jesus. It's awful.  I disagree. I find the fanservice distracting from the very wordy script it is paired with. If I want tits I will watch anime for tits. Casual nudity is fine in my anime but very purposeful the way is in Bake, why the fuck is it not labeled ecchi is all I want to know? It is kinda like how Evangelion still remains an off label harem. The way Bakemonogatari fans defend their anime is really annoying. And I would like my ecchi to simply be pleasing. Like Misato's sweet ass in Evangelion. |
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PeripheralVision said: DaCraziGuy said: So, irl you never had real fanservice moments? Like a coworker schoolmate dropping something and you watching her/his ass while she leift it up or a girl with a skirt sitting in a real "open place" or just watching a girl with a huge rack bouncing her tits just because she was walking down the street? Dude, fanservice it's not necessary but also it's not ilogical to put it in daily stuff. It happens and it's not that crazy. Except stories are carefully manipulated universes, to which nothing out of the narrative can be said to exist, just implied. Whatever the author, the studio, and such choose to focus on, has been done so with intention. Authors and creators choose what happens, and where the focus lies; this is how we know the heroes won't die halfway through, because of plot armour. Anything that occurs, is because someone put in the effort and thought to include it. Realism is hardly an argument for fantastical worlds. Besides the rape, the manga adaptation(s) of Goblin Slayers does feature much more fanservice. That's your opinion on fanservice, also that a show shouldn't have a focus on it is your opinion, even tho even in the most acclaimed series we have some, for example Ghost in the shell. Also, the hero dying in mid show is a thing, I don't remember how it's called but the MC can be changed by another one. And why realism isn't an argument? With that logic the fantasy shows shouldn't have gravity and the characters shouldn't eat, especially food from real life... WTF is that? First time that I hear that fantasy can't have realistism. I don't know anything about the manga nor LN of GS, and if it has less fanservice why would you complain? |
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Pullman said: Well it's still a fair opinion to have, to say that there's one thing in a show that was a big problem with it, to the point where other things that one would otherwise have enjoyed became less enjoyable as a result of being accompanied by this key flaw. Though I agree it can be on the more absurd side of things if a person's objection addresses either a relatively small thing in the work or something that should have been plainly obvious to them before or right as they started watching, particularly if they then proceed to go around the internet whining about it as opposed to simply chalking it up to "this wasn't my cup of tea" and moving on.In your example one just doesn't like the show as a whole, the main genre, the main thing it is trying to do. Ofc noone should have to watch something they don't like. I just find it weird when people generalize one element in a show to the point where they reduce the show to just that and are unable to see and enjoy the show's numerous other elements that they might like under other circumstances. Sure, noone has to like ecchi. But when they themselves generalize a show as ecchi because of minuscule amounts of fanservice that actual ecchi fans wouldn't even perceive as such, it's about more than that general preference of theirs. That's just another level, imo an unreasonable one, of dislike for something when you can't even tolerate its presence no matter what else a show has to offer, no matter what amount of it is in the show. When you hate it so much that its mere presence overshadows anything else the show is doing in your perception. That's immature and mentally weak to me. Hence my SSY example, where it's literally one 5 second scene in a 2-cour anime that made hundreds if not thousands drop the show. It's not that rare to see people have similar attitudes towards ecchi/fanservice where they are literally incapable and unwilling to look past any amounts of it, like any nudity even if it isn't really framed as fanservice, or dropping a show because of one character design that is 'too sexy' for them. I mean sure, people can be that picky and purist about their entertainment, but I find that approach to be immature and mentally weak and as far I'm concerned I can't take a lot of their complaints or criticisms seriously since they bring it upon themselves by having unreasonably nitpicky attitudes and expectations. Having a preference just means you like to see some stuff and don't care about other stuff, it doesn't mean being incapable of tolerating any amounts of something. That's more like an obsession. But OTOH I see no problem with saying "Oh, I don't like this, therefore I'm not going to bother watching it" is a completely fair thing to say when choosing to watch or drop a show. "I don't like the plot premise", "I don't like the art style", "I don't like the main characters", "I don't like the fanservice" -- all are valid options for dropping a show after an episode or less. Maybe the show will "get better" for me, but I'm not sure that is enough of a significant reason to keep watching if I'm not in the mood for it. Maybe I will be more in the mood later. Pullman said: Not all playtime of a show is equal in importance though; there could be one key scene that is done badly that makes a lot of things fall apart.I have a preference for not seeing fanservice, I don't care about it, but I have no problem just ignoring it when it happens as long as I enjoy whatever else the show is doing and the fanservice parts are not making up significant portions of each episode. If I enjoy what is going on 90% or 95% of the time, that's still pretty enjoyable overall if you ask me. I don't get people who care more about the 5% than they do about the 95%. It's like instead of being happy they can get 95% enjoyment out of something, they prefer to get angry because it isn't 100%. That seems like such a sad and pitiful way to approach entertainment, or really anything in life. Only focusing on the tiniest amounts of stuff you dislike and making that the only thing that impacts your judgment and enjoyment. That's a recipe for self-made unhappiness and complaints. I don't respect that very much. But I definitely agree that being hypercritical can make anime less enjoyable. Swagernator said: lol, I don't really have much of an opinion of HSDxD at all. Just that it's probably not my cup of tea, even though there might be some things in it that I do like. I dunno what HSDxD is like specifically but I know I've enjoyed some other magical battle school shows before for example.OP Thats too long post about you not liking DxD. |
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SlumberingSally said: Third: And this is kinda the problem I think: It makes some people feel uneasy to see fanservice/ecchi stuff. They probably do not even exactly know why, it's just that they feel like it should not be included in a "serious" show. That might be a valid preference (there are no "wrong" preferences, right?) Yet... I think it's mostly a lack of balls or boobs*, since... well, y'know, naked people, arousal, a certain kind of voyeurism simply is part of (most) humans nature. And being able to deal with this, or even better: investigate it, seems worthwhile to me. It's a little bit like not wanting to see Another because of the gore. Gore is a quite interesting part about the real life though, even so it might make you feel uneasy. If I was you, I would just try to be curious about that uneasyness. *Dont get me wrong, flat-chested comrades, I love you and your chests. <3 I just couldnt come up with a better analogy for dem balls. Sexual fanservice is one of a number of aspects that speak to the "tone" that the story sets. Gore is another. Also things that aren't "sensitive content", like general color aesthetic, and music choice, and much more. Sexuality is a part of real life, yes, but it's also a fact of real life that open displays of sexual interest and sexual activity -- especially when without a precondition of romance -- are often considered sleazy and associated with sinfulness (or whatever you'd call the opposite of wholesomeness or purity). So, for example, if you're a writer, you can characterize someone as being wholesome, being sleazy, or simply ignore this aspect if you feel it isn't relevant to the plot and doesn't fit your desired tone. And to be fair, you can play with and defy/ignore such tropes, but what you do may or may not get through to the audience if you're not communicating to them in a way that accommodates what they might be thinking on first impressions. Part of the objection to fanservice is often that it doesn't fit the tone of the rest of the story. Like let's say you're trying to tell a Medieval-European-high-fantasy story and it features serious political intrigue between warlord nobles and royalty except for some reason they are all teen girls wearing midriff-exposing shirts and panty-exposing short skirts, then someone says "I'm sorry, I can't take this seriously". Many examples aren't quite this dramatic, but people still do frequently point out how skin-exposing clothing might be unsuited for various purposes (e.g. melee combat, cold climates, and space travel). also woot flat chests |
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Catalano said: Fanservice happenes in real life too, a year ago I saw the panties of my coworker, the other girls were cleavages almost all the time. ...could you please explain to me how to become a cleavage, and at what times it is prudent be a cleavage or stop being one? |
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| I mean i have neutral feelings about fanservice. I can very well enjoy a series with fanservice but i would rather do without it. It's my own preference that i prefer not to see fanservice in a series. But will i drop a series just because it has fanservice? No If a series only has fanservice and doesn't have any other redeeming qualities will i drop it then? Yes i will It's quite simple for me actually. But if someone decides to drop a show simply because they don't like one aspect of it ignoring all the other things that could be enjoyed could be called immaturity but even so, at the end of the day, people watch anime for entertainment purposes so i don't see what obligation anyone has to continue watching something that annoys them. |
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| I don't really feel uneasy around ecchi or fanservice, but I seriously just don't care much for it. The characters just need to be likeable. A 5 second bra through a white shirt scene that isn't out of place doesn't change much. If they are spending an additional scene to just have some girl fall on the main character, sure but that'll score about 0 points with me and they'll have wasted 2 minutes of air time they could have done something actually good with. If the characters are having a serious discussion while the camera is being unnaturally low just for a panty shot, then it might irritate me slightly. Then there's the sexual fanservice is the main appeal of the show kind of anime... which is sometimes funny and a little interesting, but they burn through that novelty really quickly and it just gets boring a repetitive. |
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InkSpider said: Catalano said: Fanservice happenes in real life too, a year ago I saw the panties of my coworker, the other girls were cleavages almost all the time. ...could you please explain to me how to become a cleavage, and at what times it is prudent be a cleavage or stop being one? Do you know what twtich.tv is ? If no go there and search for "just chatting" section. |
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Catalano said: ^ I am sorry, the girls wore cleavages. Smartphone keyboard played a trick on me. Cleavage is the visible line/narrow space between breasts. One either has it, or they don't. It is something that can be shown or hidden. It's not something someone wears and could take off. |
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Older_than_dirt said: Tell that to the padded sports bras of the world.Catalano said: ^ I am sorry, the girls wore cleavages. Smartphone keyboard played a trick on me. Cleavage is the visible line/narrow space between breasts. One either has it, or they don't. It is something that can be shown or hidden. It's not something someone wears and could take off. |
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Lunilah said: Older_than_dirt said: Tell that to the padded sports bras of the world.Cleavage is the visible line/narrow space between breasts. One either has it, or they don't. It is something that can be shown or hidden. It's not something someone wears and could take off. No need to, because they aren't the cleavage, they just make it look like there's more cleavage than there actually is. To tie this back into the thread so it doesn't derail it.. Those bras could be compared to fanservice. Without them, there would just be standard small chests. With them, we get something more enticing to look at. Not everyone wants to look at cleavage, but for those of us who do, it's enjoyable. |
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Older_than_dirt said: and this is why fanservice is bad; it replaces small chests with larger onesThose bras could be compared to fanservice. Without them, there would just be standard small chests. With them, we get something more enticing to look at. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: Older_than_dirt said: and this is why fanservice is bad; it replaces small chests with larger onesThose bras could be compared to fanservice. Without them, there would just be standard small chests. With them, we get something more enticing to look at. Nah, it doesn't replace, it improves. It makes it more appealing to view. |
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HeroicIdealism said: Thank God there are some normal men in the anime community. This place is filled with pedophiles, I swear. Depends on who you ask. Some would tell you that "normal men" are pedophiles that just haven't been caught yet. So anyway.. what's your take on this thread topic? |
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HeroicIdealism said: > implying that sleek athletic bodies are somehow less sexy than ones with strange bags hanging off of themThank God there are some normal men in the anime community. This place is filled with pedophiles, I swear. |
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| Nobody is obliged to be always ok with sexuality because it is supposedly aimed to "mature audiences". Not all people enjoy viewing animated boobs, butts, thighs, abs, feet and ecchi scenes running wild in anime series or movies. It doesn't make a person that is uncomfortable towards sexuality in fiction immature, some may have in fact more experiences in sexual matters and may simply be averse to the idea of animated fanservice. Personally, I'm usually neutral to fanservice in anime. For example, I'm not aroused one bit when I watch most Fairy Tail female characters having the same type of curvy body with gigantic boobs. Still, there are certain types of fanservice that I genuinely enjoyed, such as the ones in Bakemonogatari, and anything with yuri romance or context. |
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| Others brought up the Monogatari series and Hanekawa's cat form. I think it's a good example. While you may argue this character is contrived or pushed in a sexual direction purely for fan service, it is at least one, nice, cohesive presentation of a character. It's not a jarring cut to an out-of-character panty shot. My biggest peeve with fan service is when it is presented like a crudely drawn clown in a classical oil painting. I understand seeing a different side of a character can be exciting. That said, I think at the highest level you have sexual elements that make sense from a story-telling perspective, or characterization perspective. If you don't have that, then I'd at least like it to make sense from the perspective of art/style and cinematography. Like a sexual scene that fits a character's style, or a scene that is "filmed" and orchestrated well enough to look convincing and not to mention pretty. When a scene starts failing all these; when the plot reason is contrived, it is out of character, it isn't presented in a way that makes stylistic sense for the character (fits their aesthetic), it isn't introduced properly, say only through a sudden shift in camera angle (what the hell camera man!?) or a typical nonsensical stumble. When all of these things start failing, it's like the clown in the oil painting. Not exactly the kind of thing that evokes a sense of care and craftsmanship.. |
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Older_than_dirt said: HeroicIdealism said: Thank God there are some normal men in the anime community. This place is filled with pedophiles, I swear. Depends on who you ask. Some would tell you that "normal men" are pedophiles that just haven't been caught yet. So anyway.. what's your take on this thread topic? It's like implying everyone are secretly gays but just not awakened yet lolz... |
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HopefulNihilist said: 1. Because it was originally meant as a reply to a thread, but that thread no longer existed by the time I got around to replying to it.I don't understand: why didn't you simply make this a blog? A long time ago, @Older_than_dirt criticized my threads for resembling blog posts, moreso than actual discussions. Since then, I've made absolute sure to ONLY make threads that can allow people to discuss. But anyways, back to the main topic, I agree with everything you said. 2. If it doesn't engender discussions, I can (1) defer to the moderators' judgement on that, and (2) let the two pages of posts speak for themselves. To be fair to you and @xchyssa, yeah, my OP could work as a blogpost too. Just that it seemed more appropriate since I was following up to a forum post. HeroicIdealism said: except breast size is not correlated with milk productionThose "strange bags" are well-developed, fertile mammary glands. |
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| sexual fanservice is weird. sexual content and fanservice are definitely different because they each imply different things. i find it strange that people defend fanservice by saying that sex is natural and should be an important part of fiction, as most fanservice isn't about characters actually having sex, but about sexualizing the characters and the situation. plus, this is an anime community, i seriously doubt that sex is a normal part of most people's lives here. fanservice is technically a relative experience since there isn't any actual sex going on. it relies on the notion that seeing panties and exposed boobs is inherently related to sex. someone who's lived in a nudist community for their whole life and the average american 13 year old are not going to react to those boobs in the same way. i think the reason why ecchi is such a controversial topic is because it exposes how we perceive sexuality, which is a topic that no one really seems to have a neutral opinion on. it's also weird to hear people justify a female character's voluptuous design on her being a sexual person. while it isn't unrealistic, it reveals another aspect of our skewed understanding of sexuality. i rarely hear people justify it by mentioning that she knows what gets her off or how she like being aroused; it's always about her appearance. sexual women are denoted by appearing sexual, while men are understood to be sexual through indulgence. |
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15poundfish said: I said that being okay with sexuality -- being able to handle it without snickering, shying away, etc., for example -- is maturity. My point is that someone who's a mature adult can enjoy or not enjoy fanservice based on personal preference, as opposed to fanservice appreciation being a sign of maturity.Being okay with fanservice is not really necessarily a sign of maturity, in fact it can be a sign of immaturity. |
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15poundfish said: Being okay with fanservice is not really necessarily a sign of maturity, in fact it can be a sign of immaturity. No, being okay with it (ie not running away from it and calling it a tool of the devil) is being mature about it. The immaturity happens in how someone acts about it. There are many ways to act immature about fanservice or nudity, being okay with it's presence in a media isn't one of them. 15poundfish said: Fanservice is a tool to market and sell anime to consumers by appealing to the base instinct of the consumers. Its a form of consumer exploitation in the same way porn is or a sexy person eating a cheeseburger is in a fast food advertisement. Its not appealing to rational faculties and interacting with the consumer on a equal basis. its appealing to the powerful unconscious reproductive instincts of the viewer to get them to purchase and view the product. Its one of the purest and oldest forms of manipulation in the consumer world and if we live in a moral society we would heavily regulate or in some societies outright stigmatize this type of exploitation of the consumer. You're right, sex sells. Society has known this for a long time, as do companies that are trying to sell you something. If appealing to the base human instincts were actually considered to be an unfair or immoral practice, laws would be made against it like they did with subliminal messages in advertisements. 15poundfish said: Lets not get into the messages that often come with fanservice like the normalizing of sexual assault of women, pedophilia, domestic violence,etc. It affects the viewers watching it and also could be part of the reason why Japan has a sexual assault problem. No, let's DO get into those supposed messages. Let's not just point a finger only at anime, better include the entire franchise of shows called "Law & Order", as an example. So what if the cops are arresting people, they're still depicting all these crimes.. sexual assault, domestic violence, murder, etc. They can affect the viewers just as much, perhaps even more because they're using actual people in true-to-life situations rather than animated drawings of fictional characters. Normalizing? I'd say Law & Order does it with EVERY episode, especially when you can catch multiple episodes each day of it. As for Japan having a sexual assault problem, maybe they do, but it certainly isn't something that is anime's fault. Instead of being so quick to fault anime for various problems in a Society, try looking at that Society itself. You're likely going to find other issues going on that contribute/cause these problems. Lots of Countries have a sexual assault problem, is that anime's fault too? 15poundfish said: Art can both reflect society and also impact society which means creators should be prudent in not sending the wrong messages to their audience. You can see the influence on a micro level with some people promoting pedophilia on anime forums. Often fanservice is played off as a joke even though in reality it is actually insidious and sets a bad example for its audience. If you say its a joke and will not negatively impact its audience, I disagree. Humor is often a effective way in changing minds and promoting propaganda. Its the reason why late night political "comedy" shows are popular in the United States. They are a hotbed of propaganda that brainwashes its audiences to take opinions from an authority figure that is just making "jokes". Its powerful enough that people actually regurgitate these jokes in political arguments. Free speech is a wonderful thing, until someone says something you don't agree with. Then suddenly it's propaganda, or "hate speech", or sending bad messages that easily-influenced people might act improperly because of, or whatever. Just because people are free to speak their minds, it doesn't mean you have to listen or agree. Just because someone is free to make a TV show that features hot women in tight-fitting bathing suits, it doesn't mean you have to watch it. Just because you don't agree with something, it doesn't automatically make that something evil, immoral, propaganda, brainwashing, or any other negative term you choose to use against it. |
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15poundfish said: approaching sexuality with a level head =/= ignoring sexualityGlennMagusHarvey said: I don't see how being desensitized to sexuality makes someone more mature than someone that turns way from rampant displays of sexuality. There is nothing mature about a childless society or a promiscuous society that is filled with many single parent homes. Restricting sexuality seems to show a sign of self-control and discipline which is why successful societies were prudes.I said that being okay with sexuality -- being able to handle it without snickering, shying away, etc., for example -- is maturity. My point is that someone who's a mature adult can enjoy or not enjoy fanservice based on personal preference, as opposed to fanservice appreciation being a sign of maturity. approaching sexuality with a level head = being able to control one's reactions to sexuality, to suit the situation (the rest of your reply is you going out on your own strange tangent) |
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| Fan-service is immature, it's simple as that, it's off-universing characters for the sake of exploiting their sexual origins for the sake of Horrny Jap kids and filthy humans |
Ventus_S said: I don't reject fanservice. But for most series fanservice is used in an out of place context which drastically distract the flow of the show. Just those 1 minute 30 sec and we already see 4 unnecessary / tasteless fanservice that serve no point in the story (mc himself doesn't even care and no reaction whatsoever) I don't see anything in this fanservice, nor do I think it adds anything to the show other than fulfilling some horny teenager's sexual desire and waifulism. It's like the author has no other way to add characterization to this character, so they just make her boobs as big as possible, and showcasing it whenever possible. Isn't her name "Cow Girl"? Like, that shoulda been your first clue. |
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Ventus_S said: I don't reject fanservice. But for most series fanservice is used in an out of place context which drastically distract the flow of the show. Just those 1 minute 30 sec and we already see 4 unnecessary / tasteless fanservice that serve no point in the story (mc himself doesn't even care and no reaction whatsoever) I don't see anything in this fanservice, nor do I think it adds anything to the show other than fulfilling some horny teenager's sexual desire and waifulism. It's like the author has no other way to add characterization to this character, so they just make her boobs as big as possible, and showcasing it whenever possible. tbh.. I don't even notice "fanservice" or react to it when I don't care about character/scene or looks of the character. It's like when someone outside showcases their assets with cleavage dress. But you utterly don't notice because you simply don't care. Basically... it's type of thing if you at particular moment don't care about fanservice or think about it. You won't notice or care about it. Otherwise you will react. I generally don't mind fanservice. Rarely bothers me. |
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DesolatePsyche said: Ventus_S said: I don't reject fanservice. But for most series fanservice is used in an out of place context which drastically distract the flow of the show. Just those 1 minute 30 sec and we already see 4 unnecessary / tasteless fanservice that serve no point in the story (mc himself doesn't even care and no reaction whatsoever) I don't see anything in this fanservice, nor do I think it adds anything to the show other than fulfilling some horny teenager's sexual desire and waifulism. It's like the author has no other way to add characterization to this character, so they just make her boobs as big as possible, and showcasing it whenever possible. tbh.. I don't even notice "fanservice" or react to it when I don't care about character/scene or looks of the character. It's like when someone outside showcases their assets with cleavage dress. But you utterly don't notice because you simply don't care. Basically... it's type of thing if you at particular moment don't care about fanservice or think about it. You won't notice or care about it. Otherwise you will react. I generally don't mind fanservice. Rarely bothers me. It must be a curse like to be always ''almost'' right, isn't? But Yeah, if you don't care about that characters' particular design, then you wouldn't mind it at all, or if you a canon-lord, then you will be triggered by all knds of fillers that is not canon. |
PhantomnocomicsNov 14, 2018 2:24 PM
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