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Sep 18, 2009 12:51 AM

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no, Garp wont betray WG... he is atached to marines side...
he wanted to make luffyAce marines, he wouldnt join pirates that easily ;P



btw where is pandaman ? cant see him
Sep 18, 2009 12:56 AM

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wow!! so unpredictable,,

i don't think luffy and white beard will fight...
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smokes said:
no, Garp wont betray WG... he is atached to marines side...
he wanted to make luffyAce marines, he wouldnt join pirates that easily ;P
I still find it hard to swallow, that he'd let his grandchild get killed right before his eyes. He wouldn't be joining pirates by killing 100 enemies and keeping his single grandson safe/out of the fight somehow. Given his track record-i think they'd let it slide. Well, whatever his decision, "things are looking good" ;)
smokes said:
btw where is pandaman? cant see him
Sure looks like him, he's dead centre, lowest panel.
ezaya said:
i don't think luffy and white beard will fight...
Don't worry, they won't ;P
Sep 18, 2009 1:56 AM

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smokes said:
no, Garp wont betray WG... he is atached to marines side...
he wanted to make luffyAce marines, he wouldnt join pirates that easily ;P


read last chapter
Sep 18, 2009 4:37 AM

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gastricjuice said:
Fantastic chapter! Well worth the two week wait. Darn i need a wallpaper of that 2 page spread. That would be beyond epic! And who had the gall to give the chapter anything below5/5!?!? Show yourself fiend!!

I...I have a gun (not sure if it works on demons though...XD)

My personal favorite has to be WB not giving a damn about Croc
Sep 18, 2009 4:56 AM

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Doreku said:


My personal favorite has to be WB not giving a damn about Croc


haha) that moment was good)
its like 'whats with this rookie?' xD


i also liked SMOKER reactions)) he was liek '' wtf, he pwned croc in arabasta, now he's with him o_O ' )))
Sep 18, 2009 5:27 AM

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luffy is competing with whitebeard *_*
and the next chapter is one week away
Sep 18, 2009 7:39 AM

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Another great chapter from Oda. I wonder what beef Crocodile and Whitebeard had previously. Luffy and Whitebeard arguing and trying to compete with each other is pretty cool. So , another fierce alliance form. Can't wait to see what happens next.
Sep 18, 2009 8:47 AM

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I....I.. just cried manly tears.
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When Ichigo said that he'll beat Aizen, i said grow up Kid

When Sasuke said I'll use amaterasu on Tobi, I said stop dreaming

When Luffy said he'll become the pirate king instead of WB, I said go for it!

Is it the greatness of Oda or I'm biased
Sep 18, 2009 10:37 AM

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hJ said:
When Ichigo said that he'll beat Aizen, i said grow up Kid

When Sasuke said I'll use amaterasu on Tobi, I said stop dreaming

When Luffy said he'll become the pirate king instead of WB, I said go for it!

Is it the greatness of Oda or I'm biased



wow great speech XD nice :)
Sep 18, 2009 10:47 AM
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Yeah! Luffy fighting along with White Beard.






Sep 18, 2009 10:51 AM

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smokes said:
wow great speech XD nice :)
lol, ya. I can almost see him preaching to thousands of manga fans
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Sep 18, 2009 10:57 AM

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this was epic btw




luffys face xDDD
Sep 18, 2009 11:22 AM

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Damn Oda should give some lessons on how to write a great story to kishi ...
When you think this is the top of epicness he reaches a new level :S
Sep 18, 2009 11:41 AM

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lol @ the people saying ships in the air because of ivankovs wink, knew that was bullshit.

And how come croc is so weak? He's meant to be a logia ffs, like admiral level? WB doesn't even turn around and luffy just takes him on. Is it because luffy was wet that he can block croc, or was croc wet? No way it's haki.

Also, WB not turning around was bullshit. He didn't know croc was attacking him? Or you can't possibly be serious and think that croc can't damage WB at all, even with a free shot.. no way WB knew that luffy was gonna defend him. Guess it's just a setup for luffy to make his grand entrance to the WB stage, and because of epicness i'll let this slide Oda :p
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ex0 said:
lol @ the people saying ships in the air because of ivankovs wink, knew that was bullshit.

And how come croc is so weak? He's meant to be a logia ffs, like admiral level? WB doesn't even turn around and luffy just takes him on. Is it because luffy was wet that he can block croc, or was croc wet? No way it's haki.



It showed water dripping from Luffy's leg, don't feel like digging up the page though.
Sep 18, 2009 11:51 AM

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yes it was water, + he was already in gear 2) thats why he was so fast



WB not turning around means that croc is like an ant for him ;P
Sep 18, 2009 12:10 PM

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Man that last page made me cry. It was so GAR... damned Oda makes epicness my new drug! xD
Sep 18, 2009 12:18 PM

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Now Luffy's competing with Garp. Hectic.



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Sep 18, 2009 12:33 PM

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ex0 said:
Also, WB not turning around was bullshit. He didn't know croc was attacking him? Or you can't possibly be serious and think that croc can't damage WB at all, even with a free shot.. no way WB knew that luffy was gonna defend him. Guess it's just a setup for luffy to make his grand entrance to the WB stage, and because of epicness i'll let this slide Oda :p


But still there's the fact that WB could easily one-shot Ace while sleeping...

Then again I don't think WB was planning to take the hit...maybe just block it at the last minute? :)
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That was awesome.
Sep 18, 2009 12:49 PM

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Excited. But unless Luffy miraculously has a higher control on haki I don't see him doing much damage.


Something's going on with Luffy's haki, Oda is giving hints. Like, when Luffy talked about getting the battleship out of the ice and Buggy said that he suddenly started feeling like they could do it. Seems like the "disposition of the king" to lead and inspire followers, no?

Of course, the ship fell the wrong way, so I'd say it's not under control - and we wouldn't have it any other way - but after Ivor Biggun's (heh) hormone power-up that Luffy got, it seems Luffy's got the BFH-9000 going off non-stop (the H is for haki).

As for not taking out anyone of consequence, just wait till Ace is free of the kairoseki. I'm calling it now, heat + rubber = vulcanized steel-belted Michelin Man Luffy. Either that or it'll stink like a burning tire.
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soooooo... awsome for the ones that r saying that Luffy can't control his Haki and for that he can't take down any major fighters
ok luffy can't control his haki but his haki gets active when his determination and willpower gets high so he still can use it by accident and let's face it luffy gets stronger and learns new ways to fight in the middle of every big battle he faces so for him to start learning how to use haki he has to be in a fight like this one.

oh and wolverine tonfas AWSOME...

LOL at Garps and morias Reaction
Sep 18, 2009 1:01 PM

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So GAR I'm gonna die.
This so fucking much.

Epic chapter. Loved the dialogue between Whitebeard and Luffy!


Sep 18, 2009 1:05 PM

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ex0 said:
lol @ the people saying ships in the air because of ivankovs wink, knew that was bullshit.


No bullshit. They flew because of the wink. Jimbei created a wave to catch the ship, and then Aokiji froze it.

ex0 said:
And how come croc is so weak? He's meant to be a logia ffs, like admiral level? WB doesn't even turn around and luffy just takes him on. Is it because luffy was wet that he can block croc, or was croc wet? No way it's haki.


Luffy was wet, so you'd think it wouldn't be haki. Or was it...?

ex0 said:
Also, WB not turning around was bullshit. He didn't know croc was attacking him? Or you can't possibly be serious and think that croc can't damage WB at all, even with a free shot..


WB definitely knew Croc was there. There's an exclamation just before the Luffy intercept. Remember WB blew off Ace's attacks too. I would expect Ace > Croc.

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no way WB knew that luffy was gonna defend him. Guess it's just a setup for luffy to make his grand entrance to the WB stage, and because of epicness i'll let this slide Oda :p


There's nothing to slide; it all fits together like an epic run on Tetris.
Sep 18, 2009 1:14 PM

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Ralonzo said:
Jimbei created a wave to catch the ship, and then Aokiji froze it.

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actually whitebeard with his quake in chapter 551-2,
Sep 18, 2009 1:32 PM

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But still there's the fact that WB could easily one-shot Ace while sleeping...

Then again I don't think WB was planning to take the hit...maybe just block it at the last minute? :)


Yeah, but that was noobie ace i think, before he developed his logia powers, otherwise blackbeard won't be anything either, since ace put up a 'decent' fight against him till the last minute. That would also mean that the admirals are nothing to WB either?

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No bullshit. They flew because of the wink. Jimbei created a wave to catch the ship, and then Aokiji froze it.


I thought it was because of WB's quake. I initially thought jimbei launched them, but someone said it was the wink(in other words, ivankov can launch ships with his wink like the coup de tat or whatever).

WB definitely knew Croc was there. There's an exclamation just before the Luffy intercept. Remember WB blew off Ace's attacks too. I would expect Ace > Croc.


Ok, i'll give you that. So considering that WB can one shot ace when he didn't want to seriously hurt him, Luffy saved crocs life by stopping the attack and stopping WB from one shot killing croc? Is that how weak croc or how strong wb really is? lol

Can WB one shot the admirals too then? Or is sand logia just that weak compared to every other logia? Can WB still one shot ace right now and kill him? If so, who or what can stop WB then? Your thoughts?
Sep 18, 2009 2:12 PM

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do i smell a gear 4?
Sep 18, 2009 2:25 PM

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do i smell a gear 4?

heh, i smell it too..
luffy was in a serious pose back there) i expect somth new from him)
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ex0 said:
Doreku said:
But still there's the fact that WB could easily one-shot Ace while sleeping...

Then again I don't think WB was planning to take the hit...maybe just block it at the last minute? :)


Yeah, but that was noobie ace i think, before he developed his logia powers, otherwise blackbeard won't be anything either, since ace put up a 'decent' fight against him till the last minute. That would also mean that the admirals are nothing to WB either?

Ralonzo said:
No bullshit. They flew because of the wink. Jimbei created a wave to catch the ship, and then Aokiji froze it.


I thought it was because of WB's quake. I initially thought jimbei launched them, but someone said it was the wink(in other words, ivankov can launch ships with his wink like the coup de tat or whatever).

WB definitely knew Croc was there. There's an exclamation just before the Luffy intercept. Remember WB blew off Ace's attacks too. I would expect Ace > Croc.


Ok, i'll give you that. So considering that WB can one shot ace when he didn't want to seriously hurt him, Luffy saved crocs life by stopping the attack and stopping WB from one shot killing croc? Is that how weak croc or how strong wb really is? lol

Can WB one shot the admirals too then? Or is sand logia just that weak compared to every other logia? Can WB still one shot ace right now and kill him? If so, who or what can stop WB then? Your thoughts?

You're making FAR TOO MANY assumptions. Like all logia users are of the same level, Crocodocile's power equals to almost that of an Admiral's, Crocodile's power gives us a total of BB's more or less, BB power level = Admirals....etc.
Sep 18, 2009 2:32 PM

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ex0 said:
Doreku said:
But still there's the fact that WB could easily one-shot Ace while sleeping...

Then again I don't think WB was planning to take the hit...maybe just block it at the last minute? :)


Yeah, but that was noobie ace i think, before he developed his logia powers, otherwise blackbeard won't be anything either, since ace put up a 'decent' fight against him till the last minute. That would also mean that the admirals are nothing to WB either?


I doubt being a noobie qualifies someone to become one of the Shichibukai :)
Though unless Croc has been training somehow (or got a sudden powerup),how can he possibly lay a finger on WB? certainly not with what he've shown in Arabasta...

About the admirals the feats they pulled off are all above anything Croc or Ace did...(from what we've seen anyways XD)
Sep 18, 2009 3:32 PM

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oda rules ;D
never gets boring
another great chapter. Brilliant work :p
Sep 18, 2009 3:42 PM
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As expected, fcking epic!!!
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Luffy just had to go and challenge Whitebeard didn't he?

Brilliant set up chapter for the next. I can't wait to see how this fight is going to turn out!

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Yeah, but that was noobie ace i think, before he developed his logia powers


Noobie Ace? He was being considered for the Shichibukai before he joined WB.

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Ralonzo said:
No bullshit. They flew because of the wink. Jimbei created a wave to catch the ship, and then Aokiji froze it.


I thought it was because of WB's quake. I initially thought jimbei launched them, but someone said it was the wink(in other words, ivankov can launch ships with his wink like the coup de tat or whatever).


It was Ivankov's wink. Ch 556, Pg 16-17 "It's his wink's fault!"

Then, it was Jimbei who threw up a wave under them, and Aokiji froze it. Ch 557, Pg 2:

"What are we doing up here?"

"We were suddenly picked up by some stupidly huge wave..." (caused by Jimbei, see below)

"...and then the ocean surface suddenly froze over and we got stuck in it!" (by Aokiji)

How do we know it was Jimbei? Next panel:

Croc: "Take a look down there. You'll see the answer."

Next panel shows Jimbei in the sea.

Aokiji and Kuma definitely act weird considering their respective roles. You gotta think these two guys are Dragon's sleeper agents.

Can WB one shot the admirals too then? Or is sand logia just that weak compared to every other logia? Can WB still one shot ace right now and kill him? If so, who or what can stop WB then? Your thoughts?


If Devil fruit power was all there was to it, there'd be one dominant devil fruit where whoever ate would be the "God" Enel thought he was. I'm sure some devl fruits are inherently stronger and Oda has alluded to that pretty often, and some are naturally strong or weak against others. But Sky Island was also the point where Oda started introducing the idea of haki - to read attacks and, at very high levels, repel devil fruit altogether. Luffy was completely immune to Enel because he's rubber, but still got thrashed about because of Enel's use of haki which Luffy ultimately circumvented through other means. I don't think Croc has any haki to speak of, he didn't show anything of the sort on Alabasta. So he wasn't gonna scratch WB to begin with, except maybe pop a pimple with that hook of his.

At the Admiral/WB level, the variety of devil fruit is a component of overall power, but so is haki.

IMO anyway.

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I doubt being a noobie qualifies someone to become one of the Shichibukai :)
Though unless Croc has been training somehow (or got a sudden powerup),how can he possibly lay a finger on WB? certainly not with what he've shown in Arabasta...

About the admirals the feats they pulled off are all above anything Croc or Ace did...(from what we've seen anyways XD)


Or, what he said. :-]
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Another chapter to pump us up more xD? man ...! But Luffy is getting competitive against Whitebeard xD
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Last page was fucking epic.
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Ralonzo said:


It was Ivankov's wink. Ch 556, Pg 16-17 "It's his wink's fault!"

Then, it was Jimbei who threw up a wave under them, and Aokiji froze it. Ch 557, Pg 2:

"What are we doing up here?"

"We were suddenly picked up by some stupidly huge wave..." (caused by Jimbei, see below)

"...and then the ocean surface suddenly froze over and we got stuck in it!" (by Aokiji)

How do we know it was Jimbei? Next panel:

Croc: "Take a look down there. You'll see the answer."

Next panel shows Jimbei in the sea.



Uhm actually the next panel you speak of jimbei is also looking down and sees WB, therefore it was the bigassed tsunami that WB created a few chaps back that they rode on

But this chapter was well worth the wait, god, words cannot describe how good this was so I won't even try, but the best part of it IMHO was when I spotted Jango in a marines outfit on p 10 bottom panel, what the hell is up with that?
Pantyshots are a different matter entirely



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ZOMGWTFBBQ!! @______@

I nearly fainted xD Luffy face to face with Whitebeard and all he has to say is "Shut up! I'll be Pirate King!" ?! I just love that boy <3
Ouww~~ This is so damn exciting i can't believe it. But he'll certainly have a plus in the eyes of WB for making Croco-boy stop and for wanting to save Ace. x3 Not to mention that the future display of his powers will earn him a colossal bounty.

Now i wonder how will Luffy get out of this safe-and-sound and get back together with the others. Kyaa~~ Leave us in awe, Oda-sama! <3
Sep 19, 2009 4:43 AM

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Epicly awesome chapter as expected. Luffy and Whitebeard are gonna open the biggest can of whoop-ass ever XD
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Epic. I'm going to be saying this for many more chapters to come. Luffy challenging White Beard is awesome.
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Ahahaha, "Cheeky kid!"

Yeah, no point in repeating all the "epic"-ness previously said.
Sep 21, 2009 8:33 PM
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Epic chapter.. Can't wait to see how the fight will turned out!
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Y, ok, after reinterpreting I concede that WB creates the big wave that catches to escapees. Jimbei is looking down. Looks like WB creates the wave, which catches the battleship... but then Aokiji freezes it. Now, I don't think it was the original wave because a) the first tsunami is still frozen there during the Oars battle, b) the boat is stuck in the wave so I'm assuming it landed there when liquid then froze. Maybe it was the original wave or the wink (miracle) that happened to put the on that wave that made them fly.
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we will see that in the anime...it will be more detailed)

ontopic - 558 is out) raw
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LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE.

JUST LOVE IT.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
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Luffy just fears no one on the seas. What a reckless guy.
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Luffy just told Whitebeard that he will be the Pirate King, nice.
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