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Jan 28, 2018 8:54 AM

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It was the shittiest anime with one of the most beautiful and satisfying endings.
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it's a good show. people that hate it because of the mc don't understand dramatic tragedy.
it's very well directed despite, or even in spite of, its budget. episode 9 has a ozu-styled pillow shot in the first scene. it's a shame that a lot of the great visual storytelling went over a lot of people's heads. it's too patrician for the average weeb
Jan 28, 2018 9:08 AM

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Lord_Sithis said:
JokerJoestar said:


School Days isn't a deconstruction, it's just a darker romance anime than most.

Neither are Evangelion and Madoka deconstruction btw.
No, it actually is a deconstruction. Not because it's dark, but because it takes typical tropes in the genre and asks "How would this play out in real life?" That's a deconstruction.


TV Tropes's shitty definition of deconstruction isn't the correct one, this is what a deconstruction is:

"a method of critical analysis of philosophical and literary language that emphasizes the internal workings of language and conceptual systems, the relational quality of meaning, and the assumptions implicit in forms of expression."

The problem with your definition is that School Days doesn't actually subvert any tropes, it just switches between harem tropes to equally cliche tropes from darker or more dramatic romance anime.

Just look at Kotonoha's character, she jumps from a shy and weak schoolgirl to yandere in the span of one episode with little buildup.
Jan 28, 2018 9:10 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
Lord_Sithis said:
No, it actually is a deconstruction. Not because it's dark, but because it takes typical tropes in the genre and asks "How would this play out in real life?" That's a deconstruction.


TV Tropes's shitty definition of deconstruction isn't the correct one, this is what a deconstruction is:

"a method of critical analysis of philosophical and literary language that emphasizes the internal workings of language and conceptual systems, the relational quality of meaning, and the assumptions implicit in forms of expression."

The problem with your definition is that School Days doesn't actually subvert any tropes, it just switches between harem tropes to equally cliche tropes from darker or more dramatic romance anime.

Just look at Kotonoha's character, she jumps from a shy and weak schoolgirl to yandere in the span of one episode with little buildup.

are you really going to beat this dead horse of an argument about the definition of deconstruction?
Jan 28, 2018 9:17 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
Lord_Sithis said:
No, it actually is a deconstruction. Not because it's dark, but because it takes typical tropes in the genre and asks "How would this play out in real life?" That's a deconstruction.
The problem with your definition is that School Days doesn't actually subvert any tropes, it just switches between harem tropes to equally cliche tropes from darker or more dramatic romance anime.

Just look at Kotonoha's character, she jumps from a shy and weak schoolgirl to yandere in the span of one episode with little buildup.
It actually does. A teenager in real life surrounded by people who very clearly want to fuck him is not just going to stay pure and happy with their lovely girlfriend that they didn't even really love (since Makoto only liked her for her sex appeal). And when a male and a female fuck, the female can get pregnant, the consequences of this being ignored in harem but explored in School Days is a good example of how it is a deconstruction. And these are just a few examples.
Jan 28, 2018 9:36 AM

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Lord_Sithis said:
JokerJoestar said:
The problem with your definition is that School Days doesn't actually subvert any tropes, it just switches between harem tropes to equally cliche tropes from darker or more dramatic romance anime.

Just look at Kotonoha's character, she jumps from a shy and weak schoolgirl to yandere in the span of one episode with little buildup.
It actually does. A teenager in real life surrounded by people who very clearly want to fuck him is not just going to stay pure and happy with their lovely girlfriend that they didn't even really love (since Makoto only liked her for her sex appeal). And when a male and a female fuck, the female can get pregnant, the consequences of this being ignored in harem but explored in School Days is a good example of how it is a deconstruction. And these are just a few examples.


It depends on the person in question, believe or not some people actually have form of self control. Besides the fact that infidelity isn't even a rare trope in romance drama series.

What harem series have pregnancy without any consequences? I have never seen that.

Jan 28, 2018 9:40 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
Lord_Sithis said:
It actually does. A teenager in real life surrounded by people who very clearly want to fuck him is not just going to stay pure and happy with their lovely girlfriend that they didn't even really love (since Makoto only liked her for her sex appeal). And when a male and a female fuck, the female can get pregnant, the consequences of this being ignored in harem but explored in School Days is a good example of how it is a deconstruction. And these are just a few examples.


It depends on the person in question, believe or not some people actually have form of self control. Besides the fact that infidelity isn't even a rare trope in romance drama series.

What harem series have pregnancy without any consequences? I have never seen that.
Infidelity is a very rare trope in romance anime, because they're made as a form of escapism, the romance is idealized as much as possible.

Not pregnancy, sex without consequences. Well, many!
Jan 28, 2018 9:42 AM
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Never watched. It's a good "Why not to make a harem" series however. So maybe one day.
Jan 28, 2018 9:43 AM

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That it's trash and probably the worst anime I've ever seen.

Jan 28, 2018 9:47 AM

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it deserves a higher score for its ending

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Jan 28, 2018 9:57 AM

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Lord_Sithis said:
JokerJoestar said:


It depends on the person in question, believe or not some people actually have form of self control. Besides the fact that infidelity isn't even a rare trope in romance drama series.

What harem series have pregnancy without any consequences? I have never seen that.
Infidelity is a very rare trope in romance anime, because they're made as a form of escapism, the romance is idealized as much as possible.

Not pregnancy, sex without consequences. Well, many!


Well, name some then please, if you can.
Jan 28, 2018 10:04 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
Lord_Sithis said:
Infidelity is a very rare trope in romance anime, because they're made as a form of escapism, the romance is idealized as much as possible.

Not pregnancy, sex without consequences. Well, many!


Well, name some then please, if you can.
From the top of my head, Evangelion, Yosuga no Sora, Aki Sora, and KareKano.
Jan 28, 2018 10:05 AM

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TheDeadApostle said:
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It's hateable because it has to be hateable. It shows how "real harems" work and that's something that happens a lot in real life. All characters have struggles and some others are just big assholes, but that's because they don't know how to handle relationships like many real people do -Spoiler: except for that raper. He doesn't have justification-.

The characters make questionable actions but some of them regret them. And that's what everyone has done at least once -how many times you have done something wrong and regret it afterwards?-

So in the end, School Days is a harsh representation of romantic relationships in real life. And that's why it's hated, because it shows the thruth.
(Yeah, I know not everyone acts like them with their partners but many people do)


Nope. It's hated because the MC is a dick, the girls are cunts and the plot is infuriating.

Most relationships aren't like that (in the first place, most guys aren't two-timing scumbags). If you saw a hundred relationships, I doubt up to 1/5 would be like that (I'd go as far as saying 2/100 but I haven't been everywhere in the world).
Most relationships aren't exactly like that because School Days shows it in the most harsh way it could possibly do but it's true that most relationships are similar to it. Boys, even if it's too sick to be admited, tend to treat their girlfriends as properties like Makoto does, not at his extreme but just look at how many cases of sexist violence has happened between parterns. Girls tend to love her boyfriend more than what he does so usually they get hurt in relationships.

I know what I said is sexist but it's true. Not all boys and girls are like that but surely most are.

However, I have to say School Days' biggest problem is that EVERYONE is like that and with this it makes everything to be so hateable it's good points get overlooked by many. Also, that the characters are very idiot to an infuriating degree.
Jan 28, 2018 10:14 AM

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Possibly one of the most detestable anime ever.

You could not pay me to sit there and watch this.



Jan 28, 2018 10:14 AM

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Lord_Sithis said:
JokerJoestar said:


Well, name some then please, if you can.
From the top of my head, Evangelion, Yosuga no Sora, Aki Sora, and KareKano.


Most of those aren't actual harem anime to my knowledge and Shinji doesn't have sex with anyone iirc.

Actually it doesn't matter how many examples you can throw. None of that has anything to do with the definition of deconstruction posted, which you completely ignored.

Jan 28, 2018 10:39 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
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From the top of my head, Evangelion, Yosuga no Sora, Aki Sora, and KareKano.


Most of those aren't actual harem anime to my knowledge and Shinji doesn't have sex with anyone iirc.

Actually it doesn't matter how many examples you can throw. None of that has anything to do with the definition of deconstruction posted, which you completely ignored.

Not Shinji, Misato and that other guy.

Yeah, because as far as I've seen, this definition is more used.
Jan 28, 2018 11:09 AM

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I like how refreshing it felt compared to other series. It wasn't very good, if anything it was really stupid, but eh, I guess it was something like guilty pleasure for me.
Jan 28, 2018 11:13 AM

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It was one of the first anime I watch that were not aired on TV and it was the first one I watched Subbed. Back then I thought it was really good but my opinion has changed a bit in the 3 times I have watched it. The second time I watched it I got throught it all the way again And I still liked it. Not as much but it was at least decent. The Third time I watched it more recently I could barely get past episode 1 because I Noticed the bad animation and Dumb storyline. It still has a little spot in my heart since it was the First subbed anime I saw and It helped me get Over my first rejection back in 5th grade but I know that it is really a PIECE OF CRAP



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Jan 28, 2018 11:16 AM

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Lord_Sithis said:
JokerJoestar said:


Most of those aren't actual harem anime to my knowledge and Shinji doesn't have sex with anyone iirc.

Actually it doesn't matter how many examples you can throw. None of that has anything to do with the definition of deconstruction posted, which you completely ignored.

Not Shinji, Misato and that other guy.

Yeah, because as far as I've seen, this definition is more used.


Yeah and elitist means someone who likes critically acclaimed and unique anime as opposed to someone who thinks they are superior to others lmao.
Jan 28, 2018 11:45 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
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Not Shinji, Misato and that other guy.

Yeah, because as far as I've seen, this definition is more used.


Yeah and elitist means someone who likes critically acclaimed and unique anime as opposed to someone who thinks they are superior to others lmao.
Exactly, and anime means animation so The Flintstones is anime.
Jan 28, 2018 11:47 AM

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The nightmare of every harem anime fan
Jan 28, 2018 11:54 AM

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I don't think it's as bad as most people say. Especially the last episode was entertaining. I would have never expected such an ending.



Jan 28, 2018 11:59 AM
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JokerJoestar said:
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I really liked it. It's a great deconstruction of the harem genre.


School Days isn't a deconstruction, it's just a darker romance anime than most.

Neither are Evangelion and Madoka deconstruction btw.



so if those are not deconstructions, then name a few anime that is.
Jan 28, 2018 12:09 PM

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School Days is the G.O.A.T...

I actually really liked it, the whole extreme tragedy thing works for me. I get why people can hate it, but I enjoyed the insanity of it all. Also contrary to many peoples opinions, there are people that fucked up out there, and shit like this does happen.
Jan 28, 2018 12:19 PM

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I´m not really a fan of harem anime, but I gave it a shot at the time... It seemed normal at first.
Then douche MC happened. And sluts everywhere. And Sekai was a bitch that deserved such ending.

To put it simply, it´s annoying.
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Jan 28, 2018 1:16 PM

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SuzuMine-chan said:
TheDeadApostle said:


Nope. It's hated because the MC is a dick, the girls are cunts and the plot is infuriating.

Most relationships aren't like that (in the first place, most guys aren't two-timing scumbags). If you saw a hundred relationships, I doubt up to 1/5 would be like that (I'd go as far as saying 2/100 but I haven't been everywhere in the world).
Most relationships aren't exactly like that because School Days shows it in the most harsh way it could possibly do but it's true that most relationships are similar to it. Boys, even if it's too sick to be admited, tend to treat their girlfriends as properties like Makoto does, not at his extreme but just look at how many cases of sexist violence has happened between parterns. Girls tend to love her boyfriend more than what he does so usually they get hurt in relationships.

I know what I said is sexist but it's true. Not all boys and girls are like that but surely most are.

However, I have to say School Days' biggest problem is that EVERYONE is like that and with this it makes everything to be so hateable it's good points get overlooked by many. Also, that the characters are very idiot to an infuriating degree.


I disagree but I'm too lazy to argue. So I'll just concede here.
Jan 28, 2018 1:18 PM
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The anime was a great deconstruction of the harem genre, and one of the earlier (but forgotten) births of the 'yandere'.
Jan 28, 2018 1:44 PM

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I think too many people don't like it because they think it is edgy and too many people like it because they think it is edgy. It's not even edgy.
Jan 28, 2018 4:05 PM

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Best. Harem. Ever. Yeah it sucked, but it did what everyone had been asking harem anime to do for god knows how many years. It did it and made a point, it showed just how bad that idea was. I mean think about it anyone who's watched a harem anime has thought "why doesn't he just bang the girls" at least once. School days did exactly that. I think it was awesome because it gave everyone what they were demanding and showed just how bad it really was.
Jan 28, 2018 4:06 PM
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I watched it years ago, and my opinion of it has greatly changed.

The idea itself is great: a horny teenage boy cheating. But the execution is...eh:

-The art is shit
-The characters are too stupid to try to break up with the MC
-MC is a cheating asshole...that's literally his whole character. He even has the face of a dense harem MC
-Ending is too over-the-top.

If I rewatched School Days now, I don't think I'd like it much.
Jan 28, 2018 4:44 PM

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People either hated it with a passion or loved it. I didnt like it much

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Jan 28, 2018 5:51 PM
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Never watched the whole thing but it looks wonderfully entertaining from what little I have seen of it.
Jan 28, 2018 5:55 PM

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I like it, thought it was interesting, it was funny as hell to
Jan 28, 2018 5:57 PM

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I liked it very much, it wasn't nearly as bad as people cried out to be.



Jan 28, 2018 6:18 PM

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It's my standard for bad anime, when I think how bad is an anime I always compare it to School Days.

However, my most hated anime of all time is a shit called 11 Eyes. Even School Days is a decent work compared to that shit.
Jan 28, 2018 6:27 PM

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Holograph, you and I both know that's loaded question.


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Jan 28, 2018 7:22 PM

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Maybe I didn't understand the outlying concept of the anime, but it was not enjoyable to watch.

The main character is not likable, nor any of the characters. The only feeling after finishing the series was disappointment and being 'wtf'.

To sum it up, this show illustrates the extremes that may occur in reality from relationships.


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Jan 28, 2018 7:31 PM
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I don't know if it's bad or if I just hate all of the characters (outside of the crazy bitch) at a VERY deep level. The ending was pretty funny, the MC makes me want to kill myself, the rest of the girls are dribbling, cum gargling insensitive dickheads, and every episode made me wonder why I watch anime. I've never hated characters and the plotline of a creative work more, but honestly, that may be to the merit of the creators of the anime. I hate it though, so it's low on my list.
Jan 28, 2018 7:58 PM

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I like it because it's different than other anime in that genre. The ending is the best part.

Jan 28, 2018 8:02 PM

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Many years since I last watched it, but I give it kudos. It's still very memorable and talked about to this day. School day did it's job. It's controversial and different compared to your typical SoL, where characters act very predictable.
Jan 28, 2018 8:18 PM

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Best. Anime. Ever! Lol jk, nah it wasnt all that good but i seen it. Its just meh. The actual visual novel is different tho, still not that good either.
Jan 28, 2018 8:25 PM

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What I think?

For me, it seems I'm the only one who understands the purpose of that series, particularly the anime version.

And what I can truly say to the show is, I just want to clap how it succeeded to do its purpose.


Jan 28, 2018 10:47 PM

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Haven't tried the visual novel but I see the anime, it's pretty hard to watch because nearly everyone is unlikable and constantly backstabs each other. The ending was satisfying however and I don't think it would have been enjoyable without watching the entire thing. But to be fair, at least the guy is doing something. I don't approve what he does but he's doing something (looking at you Tsukune >->)
Jan 28, 2018 11:03 PM
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Almost everyone: *trash talks school days*
Me: LETS GO WATCH THIS AND SEE HOW BAD IT IS
Jan 29, 2018 12:06 AM
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It was one of the worst anime I've ever watched. All the characters of that show were retarded.
Jan 29, 2018 1:14 AM

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Holograph- said:
I would like to know your opinion about School Days
Because they like?
or
Because they do not like?


Check my favorites and check my 11/10 anime and then you know what I think of School Days.

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Jan 29, 2018 1:16 AM

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if you're talking about the anime, the answer is not really.
if you're talking about the visual novel, i think its one of the best vn i've ever read.

if you don't like kotonoha get cucked, then go for her vanilla route (even though it will hurt sekai's feeling) but if you like to cuck, then choose sekai or even two time both of them is a good idea. it simple as that(though you gonna face the consequence).

i recommend you to read shiny days too




Your quotes sucks to be honest




Jan 29, 2018 3:15 AM

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I liked it, but whatshisface can go kill himself.


I only liked it because of how intense the characters got towards the end.
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Jan 29, 2018 7:27 AM

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Absolute garbage. MC has no personality and is a complete twat, but for some reason all the girls get wet as fuck when they see him.
Not even ironically watchable.
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