Victim of Cyberbullying Pornstar August Ames Commits Suicide After Being Accused of Being Homophobic
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Dec 8, 2017 8:19 PM
#51
It's sad for sure. She said something dumb very publicly, sure, but there were a number of people who went way way too far. By all means talk to her and be like "yo gay/bi/gay for pay performers take the same tests we do, it's not that much higher of a risk but hey your body your choice fam", but to go so far as to tell her to eat a cyanide pill like Jaxton fucking Wheeler did (when she'd publicly posted about her depression too, what a piece of shit, man) is way overboard. Ultimately, if she doesn't want to fuck someone, she doesn't have to fuck them. That's how consent works, and the reason for her lack of consent isn't relevant at all. She didn't deserve to die for exercising her right to choose who puts their dick in her, and while suicide seems like a drastic response to online hate... for someone who's already struggling with their mental health? That must have been crushing. I honestly feel bad for her, and I'm pissed off to high fuck with everyone who thought telling her to kill herself over "I don't wanna fuck this specific person because I'm worried about HIV" was in any way appropriate. |
Dec 8, 2017 8:42 PM
#52
SigmaRhoIota said: Ok, well let me revise what I said then since you clearly got me: " Ironic thing is, August is Bi-sexual herself. Always nice to see some form of intellect displayed. Certainly enough to prove that complete trolls haven't totally trashed all possibility of intellectual conversation. Hats off to you. |
Dec 8, 2017 8:54 PM
#53
NekO_RelliK said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? define screwed over, because simply having sex on film isn't that detrimental, just ask literally anyone who's worked in hollywood. (even if most sex shots in hollywood films are faked) It wouldn't bee too much a jump for her to have gotten in contact with an agent not in the porn business and started doing that line of work. SigmaRhoIota said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. This is why stupid fucks shouldn't be allowed to use internet. A simple research would've tell you that she is also attracted to women speaking of stupid fucks not running simple internet searches it should be noted that gay means being strictly attracted to your own gender. SigmaRhoIota said: NekO_RelliK said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? define screwed over, because simply having sex on film isn't that detrimental, just ask literally anyone who's worked in hollywood. (even if most sex shots in hollywood films are faked) It wouldn't bee too much a jump for her to have gotten in contact with an agent not in the porn business and started doing that line of work. SigmaRhoIota said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. This is why stupid fucks shouldn't be allowed to use internet. A simple research would've tell you that she is also attracted to women speaking of stupid fucks not running simple internet searches it should be noted that gay means being strictly attracted to your own gender. Ok, well let me revise what I said then since you clearly got me on technicality: " Ironic thing is, August is Bi-sexual herself. The left can't even tolerate their own." Hey I even corrected my original post just for you. Go check it out. How special do you feel now? Oh and the left eat their own. I hope you're happy now since I clearly triggered your inner snowflakes, but it doesn't change the context of what I said. [ As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. |
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I've surpassed your limit! |
Dec 8, 2017 9:02 PM
#54
iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score |
Dec 8, 2017 9:07 PM
#55
Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. |
I've surpassed your limit! |
Dec 8, 2017 9:11 PM
#56
NekO_RelliK said: SigmaRhoIota said: Ok, well let me revise what I said then since you clearly got me: " Ironic thing is, August is Bi-sexual herself. Always nice to see some form of intellect displayed. Certainly enough to prove that complete trolls haven't totally trashed all possibility of intellectual conversation. Hats off to you. I know it's a foreign concept to you, but I'm sure you're capable of displaying it yourself.....when you're done being triggered like a snowflake with nomenclatures. |
Dec 8, 2017 9:11 PM
#57
This news will help some people get off to her porn vids. |
Dec 8, 2017 9:14 PM
#58
iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. You're the one who said pornstars have screwed futures. |
Dec 8, 2017 9:21 PM
#59
That's actually a cold way to go. It would have been better if she kept her homophobic opinions to herself though, then she wouldn't have received so much backlash (even though that's not excused either). She was so young too, tragic. iorn said: Well, most porn stars work under aliases so it doesn't affect their work and family lives off camera. It's obv reasonable as to why porn stars would feel a need to protect their identities offline. So ye, August Ames isn't her real name either. As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. |
Dec 8, 2017 9:31 PM
#60
Exhalant said: she wasn't homophobic thoughThat's actually a cold way to go. It would have been better if she kept her homophobic opinions to herself though, then she wouldn't have received so much backlash (even though that's not excused either). She was so young too, tragic. iorn said: Well, most porn stars work under aliases so it doesn't affect their work and family lives off camera. It's obv reasonable as to why porn stars would feel a need to protect their identities offline. So ye, August Ames isn't her real name either. As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. |
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Dec 8, 2017 9:49 PM
#61
That sucks. I don't think cyberbullying could ever get me to commit suicide though. As long as people aren't making up horrific lies about me like this person is a pedophile, I think I could ignore anything said about me. Just don't read what people say. Pretty simple. If you do, try to not let it bother you. |
Dec 8, 2017 9:55 PM
#63
Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. |
Dec 8, 2017 10:03 PM
#64
Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. |
Dec 8, 2017 10:47 PM
#65
Exhalant said: Yeah, that sounds pretty homophobic then. Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. |
Dec 8, 2017 11:43 PM
#66
Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. You're the one who said pornstars have screwed futures. The staggering majority of them do. |
I've surpassed your limit! |
Dec 8, 2017 11:45 PM
#67
Exhalant said: That's actually a cold way to go. It would have been better if she kept her homophobic opinions to herself though, then she wouldn't have received so much backlash (even though that's not excused either). She was so young too, tragic. iorn said: Well, most porn stars work under aliases so it doesn't affect their work and family lives off camera. It's obv reasonable as to why porn stars would feel a need to protect their identities offline. So ye, August Ames isn't her real name either. As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. There was a guy who put on a mask uploaded a photo of himself to the internet and said that he was going to shoot up a highschool. Reddit found him in less than a day. |
I've surpassed your limit! |
Dec 9, 2017 12:59 AM
#68
iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. You're the one who said pornstars have screwed futures. The staggering majority of them do. Besides the fact you'll now have to prove that statement you meant all pornstars in your original post anyway. |
Dec 9, 2017 1:17 AM
#69
Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. You're the one who said pornstars have screwed futures. The staggering majority of them do. Besides the fact you'll now have to prove that statement you meant all pornstars in your original post anyway. You know damn well what I meant don't you try and bullshit me >:T |
I've surpassed your limit! |
Dec 9, 2017 7:13 AM
#70
I can't get a full erection anymore and I have a decreased sex drive. why am i even telling u all this. |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Dec 9, 2017 8:08 AM
#71
iorn said: I think you'll find most sex workers pay their own bills in fancy apartments, with just a bit more looking you'll see that. Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. You're the one who said pornstars have screwed futures. The staggering majority of them do. Besides the fact you'll now have to prove that statement you meant all pornstars in your original post anyway. You know damn well what I meant don't you try and bullshit me >:T |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
Dec 9, 2017 9:17 AM
#72
Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. Why does it even matter if she is homophobic or not? Even if she did dislike or publicly criticize homosexuals it is well within her rights to do so. There's no need to try to justify it, it isn't a crime to have negative attitudes or feelings towards a particular group of people, it's common personal bias which everyone has towards certain different groups of people whether they admit it or not. The only real issue is that she killed herself, not her views on homosexuality. Yes no one else can be blamed for her decision to kill herself and it was her own choice to react like that, but the pro-LGBT sns users who harassed her are still assholes for pushing her in that direction. |
Dec 9, 2017 9:37 AM
#73
Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. So not wanting to risk your own health is homophobic now? |
Dec 9, 2017 11:10 AM
#74
iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: Drunk_Samurai said: iorn said: NekO_RelliK said: yes, it's totally gay of her to have a husband. please learn to read. The current industry regulations (at least in the us) require they get tested every 14 days. In fact I believe this is even the case for strippers (at least in full nude clubs) because infections can spread via the pole. Anyway I agree with those saying that if she didn't want to have sex with him for any reason she should of just politely declined the shoot instead of publicly bitching about him fucking men. It would of saved her some grief. To be fair...The gun she decided to deep throat did the same thing. Just in a different way. Also she's a 23 year old pornstar how much restraint did you expect someone who already screwed over their future to have? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Stallone#1970%E2%80%931971:_The_Party_at_Kitty_and_Stud's_and_Score He wrote rocky. Also he was a male. Not many people give a shit about the male in porn unless its gay porn. You're the one who said pornstars have screwed futures. The staggering majority of them do. Besides the fact you'll now have to prove that statement you meant all pornstars in your original post anyway. You know damn well what I meant don't you try and bullshit me >:T No now you're just trying to weasel out of what you stated. Still waiting for your proof BTW. |
Dec 9, 2017 2:52 PM
#75
Oh wow bugchasers being pieces of shit, what a surprise. |
Dec 9, 2017 3:26 PM
#76
iorn said: As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. Like I said before going from one film type to another would not be that big of deal considering that most films now days contain nudity. Even if she doesn't start out doing the most well known movies she could work her way up or even just put enough films under her belt that she could simply neglect to put porn on future applications. As said before porn stars get tested every 2 weeks for an entire panel of std's as even hiv/aids shows in that short of time. Surely one can go without doing a movie for that amount of time or longer in order to provide proof of not being infected. SigmaRhoIota said: I know it's a foreign concept to you, but I'm sure you're capable of displaying it yourself.....when you're done being triggered like a snowflake with nomenclatures. all I did was correct a mistake, and try to remain civil despite a backlash. If that is being "triggered" or "special" in anyway then thank you for pointing out that having inelegance beyond that of a paramecium as well as maturity is automatically the worst thing ever. However more people should try it, as it does bring about a slight feeling of how screwed up the world really is. |
Dec 9, 2017 3:31 PM
#77
Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. "Work with" you mean have sex with. Ut has nothing to do with sexuality it's HIV/AIDS rates. It's higher probability among certain demographics. I already explained this earlier in the thead it wont show up on a test till months past infection so it would be too late then. |
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Dec 9, 2017 4:14 PM
#78
iorn said: Not saying it's a 100% fool proof way to protect your identity, but it definitely works to some extent. I'm sure there are other lengths they can go to to protect their identify, if they wanted to.Exhalant said: That's actually a cold way to go. It would have been better if she kept her homophobic opinions to herself though, then she wouldn't have received so much backlash (even though that's not excused either). She was so young too, tragic. iorn said: As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. There was a guy who put on a mask uploaded a photo of himself to the internet and said that he was going to shoot up a highschool. Reddit found him in less than a day. iLolicon said: If you read my OP, I said that the people who harassed her for her views aren't excused whatsoever. One shouldn't be harassed or cyberbullied for their beliefs however extreme they may be. I'm not excusing the pro-LGBT community for attacking her because of her comments. Homophobic or not, no one deserves to be attacked for their opinions. I'm just saying she would not have received all that backlash if she had kept her intolerant comments to herself (or framed it in a way that wasn't so anti-LGBT/homophobic). Of course freedom of speech exists and whatnot but she should have realized that she would receive hate for those comments. Why wouldn't she? It's 2017, homophobia isn't as tolerated anymore.Exhalant said: Kagami said: Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. Why does it even matter if she is homophobic or not? Even if she did dislike or publicly criticize homosexuals it is well within her rights to do so. There's no need to try to justify it, it isn't a crime to have negative attitudes or feelings towards a particular group of people, it's common personal bias which everyone has towards certain different groups of people whether they admit it or not. The only real issue is that she killed herself, not her views on homosexuality. Yes no one else can be blamed for her decision to kill herself and it was her own choice to react like that, but the pro-LGBT sns users who harassed her are still assholes for pushing her in that direction. Also, I'm not trivializing the fact that she killed herself. I'd say that's pretty serious on its own. Kittens-kun said: It's obviously not. But that's not the sole and primary reason as to why she didn't want to work with that man. It's because he worked with other guys previously (he was gay or bi or whatever). If she was only worried about "STDs", then why wasn't she as vocal about it when she slept with other pornstars? Homosexuals aren't beings covered in HIV; anyone is prone to it, regardless of gender. If STDs was her only reason as to why she refused to cooperate, that's to be respected...but it wasn't.Exhalant said: Kagami said: Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. So not wanting to risk your own health is homophobic now? Even if STDs were such a concern to her, someone should've told her she was working in the wrong industry. traed said: Work with, have sex with, it makes no difference. If you understand what I mean by that, then it shouldn't matter. Me saying "work with" isn't wrong either...Exhalant said: Kagami said: Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. "Work with" you mean have sex with. Ut has nothing to do with sexuality it's HIV/AIDS rates. It's higher probability among certain demographics. I already explained this earlier in the thead it wont show up on a test till months past infection so it would be too late then. Once again, I'm calling it homophobic because STDs was not her primary concern. More like an excuse or cover up if anything. Her underlying reason for not wanting to work with him was because of his sexuality, plain and simple. It has everything to do with his sexuality. If she was afraid of STDs to this extent, why not invest in protection or leave the industry? STDs wasn't her real reason for refusal, that's what I believe. |
ExhalantDec 9, 2017 4:34 PM
Dec 9, 2017 4:52 PM
#79
Exhalant said: iorn said: Not saying it's a 100% fool proof way to protect your identity, but it definitely works to some extent. I'm sure there are other lengths they can go to to protect their identify, if they wanted to.Exhalant said: That's actually a cold way to go. It would have been better if she kept her homophobic opinions to herself though, then she wouldn't have received so much backlash (even though that's not excused either). She was so young too, tragic. iorn said: Well, most porn stars work under aliases so it doesn't affect their work and family lives off camera. It's obv reasonable as to why porn stars would feel a need to protect their identities offline. So ye, August Ames isn't her real name either. As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. There was a guy who put on a mask uploaded a photo of himself to the internet and said that he was going to shoot up a highschool. Reddit found him in less than a day. iLolicon said: If you read my OP, I said that the people who harassed her for her views aren't excused whatsoever. One shouldn't be harassed or cyberbullied for their beliefs however extreme they may be. I'm not excusing the pro-LGBT community for attacking her because of her comments. Homophobic or not, no one deserves to be attacked for their opinions. I'm just saying she would not have received all that backlash if she had kept her intolerant comments to herself (or framed it in a way that wasn't so anti-LGBT/homophobic). Of course freedom of speech exists and whatnot but she should have realized that she would receive hate for those comments. Why wouldn't she? It's 2017, homophobia isn't as tolerated anymore.Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. Why does it even matter if she is homophobic or not? Even if she did dislike or publicly criticize homosexuals it is well within her rights to do so. There's no need to try to justify it, it isn't a crime to have negative attitudes or feelings towards a particular group of people, it's common personal bias which everyone has towards certain different groups of people whether they admit it or not. The only real issue is that she killed herself, not her views on homosexuality. Yes no one else can be blamed for her decision to kill herself and it was her own choice to react like that, but the pro-LGBT sns users who harassed her are still assholes for pushing her in that direction. Also, I'm not trivializing the fact that she killed herself. I'd say that's pretty serious on its own. Kittens-kun said: It's obviously not. But that's not the sole and primary reason as to why she didn't want to work with that man. It's because he worked with other guys previously (he was gay or bi or whatever). If she was only worried about "STDs", then why wasn't she as vocal about it when she slept with other pornstars? Homosexuals aren't beings covered in HIV; anyone is prone to it, regardless of gender. If STDs was her only reason as to why she refused to cooperate, that's to be respected...but it wasn't.Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. So not wanting to risk your own health is homophobic now? Even if STDs were such a concern to her, someone should've told her she was working in the wrong industry. traed said: Work with, have sex with, it makes no difference. If you understand what I mean by that, then it shouldn't matter. Me saying "work with" isn't wrong either...Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. "Work with" you mean have sex with. Ut has nothing to do with sexuality it's HIV/AIDS rates. It's higher probability among certain demographics. I already explained this earlier in the thead it wont show up on a test till months past infection so it would be too late then. Once again, I'm calling it homophobic because STDs was not her primary concern. More like an excuse or cover up if anything. Her underlying reason for not wanting to work with him was because of his sexuality, plain and simple. It has everything to do with his sexuality. If she was afraid of STDs to this extent, why not invest in protection or leave the industry? STDs wasn't her real reason for refusal, that's what I believe. It is wrong. It doesnt exclude the camera operators and directors and people she isny having sex with in the same production starring along side. How do you know? Do you personally know her? Porn stars are signed into contracts I think. Why should people be forced to have sex with people they dont want to? Sounds like rape...oh right because it is. Also you're overlooking she never said anything about sexuality. A lot of people that do gay porn are straight. |
traedDec 9, 2017 5:16 PM
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Dec 9, 2017 5:17 PM
#80
@traed No, smh. I say this because she said it. You could easily just read into the case or just the OP itself if you don't want to be bothered. I'm not saying she should be forced to have sex but I'm glad you know what rape is. I don't know if porn stars are signed into contracts or not, but that's besides the point. I'm not questioning her decision, but her reasoning/intent. Sure, you don't have to sleep with anyone but she's not refusing him on the basis of STDs but sexuality. It's still counts as a level of intolerence towards gay people. She didn't not sleep with him 'cause he possibly had STDs but because he's gay. Even if she didn't want to sex with him because he was gay, I have no problem with that, really. To each their own and it's common knowledge not everyone is pro LGBT. I'm js it's still homophobic regardless of how you want to frame it. But that's ok bc its her opinion and she shouldn't be slandered for it. |
ExhalantDec 9, 2017 5:21 PM
Dec 9, 2017 5:18 PM
#81
@Exhalant She didn't say anything about it before because 1) Gay pornstars have a higher risk for STDs and 2) They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. I really struggle to see how anything she said was wrong or homophobic. I guess people just like to get offended by facts. |
Dec 9, 2017 5:27 PM
#82
Kittens-kun said: And yes, she surely mentioned she didn't sleep with crossovers or gay pornstars. So, yes, she said it. I'm not pulling this out of thin air smh. If she never mentioned his sexuality (as a sole reason for refusal), it wouldn't be a problem.@Exhalant She didn't say anything about it before because 1) Gay pornstars have a higher risk for STDs and 2) They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. I really struggle to see how anything she said was wrong or homophobic. I guess people just like to get offended by facts. They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. lol what? Are you srs rn?I never labelled her opinions as wrong or anything. Just that because they were homophobic people reacted so strongly against it. No one attacked her because she was "scared of contracting STDs" or whatever, but because the reasoning for refusal was homophobic and solely based on the dude's sexuality. |
ExhalantDec 9, 2017 5:33 PM
Dec 9, 2017 5:34 PM
#83
Exhalant said: Kittens-kun said: And yes, she surely mentioned she didn't sleep with crossovers or gay pornstars. So, yes, she said it. I'm not pulling this out of thin air smh. If she never mentioned his sexuality (as a sole reason for refusal), it wouldn't be a problem.@Exhalant She didn't say anything about it before because 1) Gay pornstars have a higher risk for STDs and 2) They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. I really struggle to see how anything she said was wrong or homophobic. I guess people just like to get offended by facts. They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. lol what? Are you srs rn?I never labelled her opinions as wrong or anything. Just that because they were homophobic people reacted so strongly against it. No one attacked her because she was "scared of contracting STDs" or whatever, but because the reasoning for refusal was homophobic and solely based on the dude's sexuality. It's not homophobic. |
Dec 9, 2017 5:44 PM
#84
Kittens-kun said: I disagree and I think it is, but we never really had to agree in the first place. So, that's ok too.Exhalant said: Kittens-kun said: @Exhalant She didn't say anything about it before because 1) Gay pornstars have a higher risk for STDs and 2) They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. I really struggle to see how anything she said was wrong or homophobic. I guess people just like to get offended by facts. They don't get tested as often or as thoroughly. I never labelled her opinions as wrong or anything. Just that because they were homophobic people reacted so strongly against it. No one attacked her because she was "scared of contracting STDs" or whatever, but because the reasoning for refusal was homophobic and solely based on the dude's sexuality. It's not homophobic. |
Dec 9, 2017 6:02 PM
#85
iLolicon said: Exhalant said: Kagami said: Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. Why does it even matter if she is homophobic or not? Even if she did dislike or publicly criticize homosexuals it is well within her rights to do so. There's no need to try to justify it, it isn't a crime to have negative attitudes or feelings towards a particular group of people, it's common personal bias which everyone has towards certain different groups of people whether they admit it or not. The only real issue is that she killed herself, not her views on homosexuality. Yes no one else can be blamed for her decision to kill herself and it was her own choice to react like that, but the pro-LGBT sns users who harassed her are still assholes for pushing her in that direction. If you put yourself out there you are also agreeing to the right that people are going to agree/disagree with things you say and some haters will go very far to insult you on the internet. How far did this bullying actually go? I don't read hate comments. I really never gave two shits. Actually, haters raise my ego because I know that means I am in their heads. Its wrong to bully people and I am not excusing assholes, but she did put herself out there. Its a sad outcome, but cyberbullying has never phased me. The only way it might phase me is if someone created a horrible lie about me and started a "he's a pedophile" lie about me because that would be a lie and would be very very very bad. |
Dec 9, 2017 9:36 PM
#86
While the internet harassed a porn star for stating she didn't want to work with gay/bi men, there are thousands of gay and bi men being tortured, killed, or denied fundamental rights in some parts of the world for being born with the "wrong" orientation. I honestly don't care if August Ames' ranty Twitter comments were homophobic or not. At worst they were dumb and poorly written from not conveying her intentions clearly. Instead of nitpicking those comments, I'm saving my outrage for actual crimes and atrocities performed by those who actually do not see bi or gay men as human beings legally, biologically, or reasonably. That is far more morally dangerous and inexcusable than badly worded Tweets that hurt feelings and polite decorum. Still, I hope August Ames has found peace. I can't imagine how much pain she was living with, but hopefully she is free of it now. |
Dec 10, 2017 2:16 AM
#87
NekO_RelliK said: iorn said: As you'ed imagine not many companies want to hire pornstars because they're pornstars and I highly doubt miss fucks for a living had a bachelor degree in anything. And even if she did "wank material for middle aged men and teen boys" Doesn't look good on a resume. Also there's stalkers and stds. Like I said before going from one film type to another would not be that big of deal considering that most films now days contain nudity. Even if she doesn't start out doing the most well known movies she could work her way up or even just put enough films under her belt that she could simply neglect to put porn on future applications. As said before porn stars get tested every 2 weeks for an entire panel of std's as even hiv/aids shows in that short of time. Surely one can go without doing a movie for that amount of time or longer in order to provide proof of not being infected. Going from fashion design to game design aren't two entirely different fields at all. Besides not like it matters since she's dead... |
I've surpassed your limit! |
Dec 10, 2017 2:57 AM
#88
AA5x4 said: I didnt know who she was, NOW I have to go see what shes capable of.With her death, I hope people will wake up and avoid watching porn again. |
Dec 10, 2017 6:30 AM
#89
AA5x4 said: With her death, I hope people will wake up and avoid watching porn again. I hope you're trolling because a death of some cock rider isn't going to deter anyone from watching pornography. Such a stupid statement imo. And anyways, oh well. For each one that goes a new beautiful teen will replace. This just goes to show how weak willed these pro lgbt people are and that it's just a front. "Ya, I totally support lgbt but I would never have a gay cock in my ass cuz I don't want the gay" -mods pls no ban- |
Dec 10, 2017 8:34 AM
#90
Her death is sad, no one should be bullied to death. What's funny though is how hypocritical all her followers are and are trying to bully everyone that said shit to her. Her sister said, "We could all use this as an example to keep our opinions to ourselves." This is funny because if Ames had simply did that she wouldn't have been attacked in the first place. If Ames' refusal had caused the actor she refused to work with to commit suicide, this would be a completely different story. That guy could have lost a lot of potential work thanks to her tweet. Hell, we don't even know if that gay porn actor actually has sex with men in his private life. Basically the main issue is that her tweet could have caused a lot of men that do both gay and straight porn could potentially start losing out on income because a lot of women feel inspired by Ames' tweet and will start to refuse working with them. If she had said, "I refuse to work with black men because they have a higher rate of HIV," how well do you think that would have gone for her? I respect the right for her to refuse to work with anyone she doesn't want to, but if people consider the reason to be stupid, people are always going to call her out on it. |
Dec 10, 2017 9:44 AM
#91
The problem is being on social media too much. It has been proven to actually cause depression. And people who are more vulnerable to it, actually struggle to pull away from social media more mostly because they need other people so badly to accept them. And you can say the internet isn't for that, but it can be. That is how people are radicalized so easily on the internet. Lots of conformation bias conflating things. Disconnect of human issues. |
The anime community in a nutshell. |
Dec 10, 2017 9:59 AM
#92
Energetic-Nova said: The problem is being on social media too much. It has been proven to actually cause depression. And people who are more vulnerable to it, actually struggle to pull away from social media more mostly because they need other people so badly to accept them. And you can say the internet isn't for that, but it can be. That is how people are radicalized so easily on the internet. Lots of conformation bias conflating things. Disconnect of human issues. The problem is also the Progressives who harassed her. |
Dec 10, 2017 10:01 AM
#93
Exhalant said: Kagami said: I'm calling it homophobic because she did not want to work with him solely on the basis that he's gay. If you don't want to call it homophobia, it's definitely a level of intolerance towards gay people.Is not wanting to have sex with other races racist? Granted, I did 't read the entire thing, but I don't think that would be racist. It all depends if you're attracted to someone or not. Though, you could argue theres a difference here. "Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality." s. Saying that " Exhalant said: @traed No, smh. I say this because she said it. You could easily just read into the case or just the OP itself if you don't want to be bothered. I'm not saying she should be forced to have sex but I'm glad you know what rape is. I don't know if porn stars are signed into contracts or not, but that's besides the point. I'm not questioning her decision, but her reasoning/intent. Sure, you don't have to sleep with anyone but she's not refusing him on the basis of STDs but sexuality. It's still counts as a level of intolerence towards gay people. She didn't not sleep with him 'cause he possibly had STDs but because he's gay. Even if she didn't want to sex with him because he was gay, I have no problem with that, really. To each their own and it's common knowledge not everyone is pro LGBT. I'm js it's still homophobic regardless of how you want to frame it. But that's ok bc its her opinion and she shouldn't be slandered for it. You're part of the problem and should be ashamed of yourself. You would be one of the people who would surely harassed her if she were still alive, solely because of a controversial tweet. "Yes how dare she voice her controversial opinion! Let's harassed her because WE think she's being homophobic (Hint: SHE'S NOT). As far as anybody is concerned she's not being homophobic with her tweet, and she even implied it's because of high rates of STD among gay pornstars. Which is true! You may screech "It's just a cover up for her homophobia". You don't fucking know that, stop assuming things you imbecile. She implied why and it's because of health reasons. Her only mistake was that she tweet a controversial opinion unprepared for the back lash from the so called tolerant left such as yourself |
Dec 10, 2017 10:10 AM
#94
Nyu said: Energetic-Nova said: The problem is being on social media too much. It has been proven to actually cause depression. And people who are more vulnerable to it, actually struggle to pull away from social media more mostly because they need other people so badly to accept them. And you can say the internet isn't for that, but it can be. That is how people are radicalized so easily on the internet. Lots of conformation bias conflating things. Disconnect of human issues. The problem is also the Progressives who harassed her. There is something quite hilarious about conservatives complaining about harassment, given how much you spend arguing gays are "not normal" and other awful stuff on the Internet and outside of it. Then when people point out what you do can be harmful to some LGBT, you go on about "my free speech". |
Dec 10, 2017 11:21 AM
#95
Wow thats pretty dark and only proves once more that SJW are complete cancer. There was nothing homophobic about her comments but people just like to force their bullshit on people. Poor girl, I appreciated her performances. |
Aardwolf94Dec 10, 2017 11:26 AM
Dec 10, 2017 11:52 AM
#96
Well nothing new here. Sjw's are known bullies by now. They bully people who disagree with them in anything in general, they bully companies, authors, professors, porn-stars, creators etc etc etc. Some people know not to give a shit like the US president for example that shows them the finger and moves along but some have issues and can't take it like this woman. I won't say it's their fault because adults are responsible for their actions including this woman but their bullying is actually worse than normal bullying because they do it while taking a place of some supposed moral superiority instead of simply attempt of showing dislike. They aren't just people that don't like you and tell you to drop dead and go fuck yourself. They are people that say so while claiming you are some bigot racist homophone or whatever trying to pretend they are some good guys while you are horrible despite their horrible actions. At least the bully stealing your lunch money at school doesn't pretend he is saving the world from your evil and he is just a nice person suffering from meeting you and having to bully you. Also Sjws are the kind that don't just stop at twitter, tumblir and Facebook but call employers and business and reporters and family members etc and really bring their bullshit outside your door in real life because they are delusional enough to think they are warriors of some noble cause or something where whatever means they use are perfectly fine because of it, so their bullying is even more intolerable that your average Internet troll or bully that you can easily avoid by blocking or closing a browser tap. |
MonadDec 10, 2017 11:59 AM
Dec 10, 2017 12:12 PM
#97
Bernrika said: Nyu said: Energetic-Nova said: The problem is being on social media too much. It has been proven to actually cause depression. And people who are more vulnerable to it, actually struggle to pull away from social media more mostly because they need other people so badly to accept them. And you can say the internet isn't for that, but it can be. That is how people are radicalized so easily on the internet. Lots of conformation bias conflating things. Disconnect of human issues. The problem is also the Progressives who harassed her. There is something quite hilarious about conservatives complaining about harassment, given how much you spend arguing gays are "not normal" and other awful stuff on the Internet and outside of it. Then when people point out what you do can be harmful to some LGBT, you go on about "my free speech". There is a difference between discussing a topic on a thread, and what progressives did to this woman, they harassed her. |
Dec 10, 2017 1:17 PM
#98
Nyu said: Bernrika said: Nyu said: Energetic-Nova said: The problem is being on social media too much. It has been proven to actually cause depression. And people who are more vulnerable to it, actually struggle to pull away from social media more mostly because they need other people so badly to accept them. And you can say the internet isn't for that, but it can be. That is how people are radicalized so easily on the internet. Lots of conformation bias conflating things. Disconnect of human issues. The problem is also the Progressives who harassed her. There is something quite hilarious about conservatives complaining about harassment, given how much you spend arguing gays are "not normal" and other awful stuff on the Internet and outside of it. Then when people point out what you do can be harmful to some LGBT, you go on about "my free speech". There is a difference between discussing a topic on a thread, and what progressives did to this woman, they harassed her. And now some of her followers are harassing everyone that ever tweeted a negative opinion toward her even if they weren't harassment or bullying. If those people commit suicide too, then what? You're going to say "Ha, karma got them,"? Right now it's just a cycle of hate. |
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