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RyanSaotome said: Kaioshin_Sama said: RyanSaotome said: They killed off the girl I decided to watch the show for? Dropped Still not tired of getting ridiculed for shallow dispositions on internet forums I see. I couldn't care less what others think about my tastes or why I watch anime. To each their own. I watch just about everything and must admit that some of what I watch has to do more with the designs and voice actors than the plot... That being said, I have a gut feeling you should give this show 3 episodes minimum. She may come back. |
| Shoko better be DEAD! Or I am dropping this series, that is one of the most anime cliches I hate. Great episode! =D |
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Bokuranokiseki said: Remember I said I read the Japanese forum before I wrote the long post? They all said "Lieselotte". Nobody said D-Zero. For me the first time I heard it it was already "Lieselotte" and 4 more times of replay did not shift my impression.Hmm.. Well, it can go either way in this case if Crunchy's subs are different. (I wouldn't trust Crunchy's subs as much as GG's in other words.) =__=;; In my ears, it sounds exactly how a Japanese person would say, "D-Zero". I don't know German so I have no say in "Lieselotte". It would be great if someone has access to a Japanese forum, and ask someone there exactly what they thought L-11 said. Although, I could also do a katakana Google sweep. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
Maelis said: At least you seldom see a MC who will confess his love to a girl in ep.1Buuuut, when I got to know the personality of the mc, it was a turn off, another pussy peace lover with some kind of anti-conflict delusion. Maelis said: You talked as if you could predict the girl being killed in ep.1 and the MC killed by an agent but came back as vampire.Another thing is that the plot is really predictable, but well, killing of the girl right away is quite good. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| All the people claiming this is like Gundam need to stop it. I saw a few people say it was like SEED/Destiny, but maaaaaan nobody gives a fuck about SEED. Also, I like how people are calling this anime unoriginal. Its not GOOD, but I don't know many giant robot series that make the main character become a vampire or whatever. |
| Jumping in Headfirst - I hear reading it causes immortality. Warning. Reading may not actually cause immortality. |
| I watched this because the animation looked nice and as I was watching, the plot didn't really get to me. After the end though, I know I will be watching the next episode just because I am so confused haha. I have to say, I have never seen a vampire mecha pilot before....or whatever happened. I am intrigued now. |
| best mech anime i've seen since.....Gundam 00 2nd season? interesting characters, story, world and the animation and writing are both impressive as well. hope it maintains this level of quality. |
| People says its resembles Gundam Seed like its a bad thing...if anything resembles Gundam material, its an instant watch already. (Exclude Destiny :/) |
 Doesn't this make you hungry? |
| i have to say...that ending was pretty beast. |
SageShinigami said: All the people claiming this is like Gundam need to stop it. I saw a few people say it was like SEED/Destiny, but maaaaaan nobody gives a fuck about SEED. i agree. couldn't make it past the 1st episode of the show. no hate, but its one of the worse Gundams i've attempted to watch. |
Zero-11 said: agreed. Seed was a great SHOUNEN anime. note the word SHOUNENSageShinigami said: but maaaaaan nobody gives a fuck about DESTINY. corrected |
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| Best first episode in this season. :) I really enjoyed this episode. The Main character is really awesome. & I want to see more of the other characters. *_* |
ZetaZaku said: Plot is pretty much a standard Gundam story. Invasion of a neutral colony hiding a new prototype, boy meets Gundam, boy is Newtype etc. But overall the episode was more enjoyable than the first episodes of the other two /m/ shows. Hope that girl stays dead. This only happened in SEED as far as i know. Is there really other gundam animes with this exact plot? If so, tell some names :P |
| Why would someone put a secret military lab under a school? I can’t feel bad for all the students that died because they were standing over a legitimate military target. I would be furious at my government if they pulled a stunt like that, but I get the feeling that this issue will never be addressed again. |
| That's the only thing that didn't make sense. Although I'm sure it will be explained at a later point of time, I'll give a few of my hypothesis. The location. The school and lab are both located at the center of the dyson sphere, probably due to technical issues. Maybe for energy effeciency, larger space, launch location (it might not be just from the pool), logistics, and the list goes on. Seeing as valvrave seems to be a supernatural mecha, it might be related to the shrine in some way. Another would be to mask its purpose. Surely a school would be the last place you would think of! Judging by the fact that none of the students are aware of it, the school have to be built after the lab. Somehow the information got leaked. Judging from the reaction of the scientists, they do not even understand why they were being attacked. JIOR probably had peace for decades and become too accustomed to peace. |
| The colony itself is pretty large compared to the hole, thus air won't be drained out immediately. And when you build space colonies, the first thing to be incorporated is a temporary fix when a hole appear. There should be a patch that covers the hole automatically. Its not instant but works nontheless |
| With high-tech its very possible to regulate the pressure within the dome. And the size of one colony seems to be at least the size of tokyo. Covering the hole with instant hardening gel is feasible even with a air flowing out quickly. That's probably the reason why the patching was not instantaneous. An advanced dyson fan along the hole could also be used to reduce the air flow. |
FiveOVERApr 15, 2013 6:51 PM
stefeman said: ZetaZaku said: Plot is pretty much a standard Gundam story. Invasion of a neutral colony hiding a new prototype, boy meets Gundam, boy is Newtype etc. But overall the episode was more enjoyable than the first episodes of the other two /m/ shows. Hope that girl stays dead. This only happened in SEED as far as i know. Is there really other gundam animes with this exact plot? If so, tell some names :P You will see similar elements in nearly EVERY Gundam series, but the whole "two warring sides with one side infiltrating to steal OP mech and ordinary boy being able to pilot it" can be traced all the way back to Gundam 0079 and Gundam Zeta. |
Phaetons_Folly said: Why would someone put a secret military lab under a school? I can’t feel bad for all the students that died because they were standing over a legitimate military target. I would be furious at my government if they pulled a stunt like that, but I get the feeling that this issue will never be addressed again. No one probably knew that the military stuff was there since they said several times that the school was new. And they've done that before in Sunrise mecha shows: hiding a military lab in a neutral nation in a school because its the place the enemy won't suspect. Unfortunately, the enemy ALWAYS finds them. newnar said: One big problem I have with this show. How come the air in the city doesn't get instantaneously sucked out when the shell separating it from space gets a giant hole blown in it? I was confused at that since a hole like that destroyed whole colonies in some Gundam series. Maybe it has to do with the whole Dyson Sphere thing? newnar said: Wouldn't the gel instantly get blown into space lol? Unless it has immense mass and some sort of stabilizing system. I don't think high-tech comes into play here as much as basic physics. Maintaining an proper pressurized environment suitable for humans to live in which is in direct contact with the largest known vacuum seems quite impossibiru. My biggest problem is that they don't even bother explaining or showing us wtf happened to the goddamn hole. Also, there seems to be a consistent inconsistency in the sci-fi. The school and city looks largely primitive compared to the science needed to build the Dyson sphere. The proximity from the sphere to the Sun is ridiculous as well but just for sake of argument I will assume that it's not drawn to scale. Look at the tech that the students are using. Look at the building design. There's no excuse to say these are old designs because they must have been built AFTER the Dyson Sphere is. It seems that only Starships, Space construction technology and Mechs have advanced while most of the other tech is still at most 10 years from 2013. I'd say the school was pretty high tech, not as high tech as some schools I've seen in mecha, but it's up there. Also, from what I have noticed, these so called "Dyson Spheres" are not real Dyson Spheres. The "suns" in the middle of them, you can tell are mechanical and not the actual Sun (They have a large spindle in the middle of them for goodness sake!). If it was the real Sun, the Sphere would have blocked the light and energy of the sun from the Earth, and no one would be able to live on the planet. These so-called Dyson Spheres are really just glorified space colonies with artificial suns in the center of them. We can see several of them in some sort of stabilized position in space, but how they keep them from going into a gravitational orbit around the Earth as close as we see they are to the Earth is a interesting question. |
| It all depends on the elastic modulus and ductility of the material in question and of course the stress applied on it which is proportional to the speed of air flow and in turn the size of the hole (any additional factors such as pressure difference is not as high as you think due to the artificial atmosphere and the 1G gravity). As i have said before, the hole itself isn't particularly big and the gel can slowly build itself up from the edge and grow from there. If they have have engineered materials that can withstand the pressure difference to build the dome in the first place, it's not far-fetched to think they can create temporary patch that can do the same. To answer your question about air not running out. All the colonies in an area are connected and it would take months for the air to run out with a hole that small... Whether an architecture design will ever change from now is up to debate. We are talking about design here, not the effeciency of the building. The dyson sphere is a lot larger than what you think. The colony shown to us is only one of the hundreds in a single patch that makes up the whole of dyson sphere. The distance from the sun looks comparitively small compared to its size. And this is probably not the sun we know, an artificial one perhaps? |
FiveOVER said: The dyson sphere is a lot larger than what you think. The colony shown to us is only one of the hundreds in a single patch that makes up the whole of dyson sphere. The distance from the sun looks comparitively small compared to its size. And this is probably not the sun we know, an artificial one perhaps? Actually, as I said before, these "Dyson Spheres" are not very large, look at the beginning again, and you can see they're quite tiny compared to the Earth. There are at least 4 seen in the beginning of the episode alone. And yes, all of them have artificial suns that are quite tiny in comparison to the real thing. newnar said: I'd say it's still out of sync with Dyson Sphere-level technology. And thanks for pointing out, I didn't notice the spindle at all I thought it was the actual sun. Mechanized sun just brings up the tech here to yet another notch. Building a "Dyson Sphere" is one thing. Creating a artificial star is on a complete different level. Anyway I think the Earth in this context is pretty much fucked-up already, likely due to some hand-waving nuclear winter apocalypse blah blah. Yeah, that is true. It is strange then how they have the tech to build these tiny space colonies/ artificial Dyson Spheres, but they are not really advanced anywhere else. And also, the Earth is fine. They said only 70% of humanity lives in space, which leaves 30% living on Earth. That's still a very large number of people. Also, they show snap shots of people watching the mecha fight on Earth during the latter part of the episode. They showed London, Paris, New York, and a few other places with actually quite a few people living there. They have also shown the sights of the cities on Earth from space as well as students mentioning that they might have to eventually return home on Earth, so the Earth is just fine. |
| As long as there is a huge volume of air and sufficient gravity(provided by the sun) An artificial atmosphere could be created. The weight of air piled on each other would ensure that the effect of pressure difference be minimal. Its still there but the strength of engineered material so far into the future would more than make up for it. A good point you made is the difference between holding the pressure in and a leakage. I am mistaken here but as i said again the effects of gravity will decrease that pressure difference. If gel won't work there are many other ways to fix it. |
newnar said: The more air inside, the faster the air will leak. Since you said that the colonies are all connected, it forms a complete combined body of air that would contribute to the force generated due to difference in pressure. In fact the smaller the hole, the more stress on the edges of the material, which after some time will definitely tear the small hole into a larger one. Eh, sorry, physics doesn't work like that. A large body full of air will leak at the same speed as a much smaller body, if the air pressure is the same; the quantity doesn't matter, only the density. I'm not saying there is nothing wrong with the scene, it is indeed weird we don't see at least some indication of a leak; but the argument that it wouldn't be noticeable/dangerous for a while because there's lots of air is perfectly valid (except that anything in the vicinity of the whole would be sucked out by decompression). Edit: and there it is, 10:38, there's an air leak. 10:44 there's some green goo around the hole, so something like the repair gel a few people speculated about here. We don't see anything sucked out because there isn't anything near the breach, but the gel itself is flapping. Can we move on now? :-) |
lalomartinsApr 16, 2013 1:42 AM
| Didn't expect that part at the end o_O. Good start :P. I am looking forward to the next ep now. Wanna see what the heck that was about. Rival is in place. |
eminagnam said: I have no idea what kind of anime it is. There was romance, comedy, mecha, vampire, zombie and a political satire on relations between US and Japan. I'm lost.. It is called a tryhard anime. Such shows try to appeal to all possible audiences, while also trying to keep up a fast pace. The result is usually a glorious trainwreck and this will be no exception. |
| That's pretty bad. It's like they are mocking the audience with how many cliches they can fit in the first episode. I'm not asking for originality since that is too much to ask, but man it's like they didn't even try. Mech action is nice, that's about it. |
| It looked nice. That's really all I can say that was good about the first episode. Plot seems pretty generic and I think |
chronoso said: It looked nice. That's really all I can say that was good about the first episode. Plot seems pretty generic and I think I maybe thinking a bit too much in to it, but I don't think it's going to go with zombie vampire plot. Anyway I just have too much time, so it might just be crazy talk. |
AsciusApr 16, 2013 11:03 AM
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Ascius said: Anyway I just have too much time, so it might just be crazy talk. No, it makes sense. |
mecharobot said: eminagnam said: I have no idea what kind of anime it is. There was romance, comedy, mecha, vampire, zombie and a political satire on relations between US and Japan. I'm lost.. It is called a tryhard anime. Such shows try to appeal to all possible audiences, while also trying to keep up a fast pace. The result is usually a glorious trainwreck and this will be no exception. There's that buzzword again. It's almost robotic or like a mantra or something. Like almost the exact same type of sentence word for word that neither accurately describes nor contributes anything to the discussion about a show. Where do they find you people besides /m anyway? |
| I really enjoyed the first episode of this anime, i never really tried any mecha animes untill now since i am still new to anime itself but I am excited to see some more stuff come out of it. If I could say one thing is that I dont think they should have killed off haruto's friend so fast (Forget her name xD) |
Ascius said: I maybe thinking a bit too much in to it, but I don't think it's going to go with zombie vampire plot. Anyway I just have too much time, so it might just be crazy talk. I think that makes sense, especially with the way his face was glowing. |
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| Next epi is almost here and we're still chatting and speculating :-) I guess this series made an impact. Should we start taking bets on whether Shoko is on ep. 2? And whether there's any supernatural element or just plain sci-fi? And whether the MC is going to find he's now government property? |
| ^ My guess - Shoko will not reappear until much later in the series (after ep.10 perhaps?) - It will be sci-fi, meaning MC's vampire behavior will get a "scientific explanation" - We don't even know the "organization" of Valvrave is the government. It can easily be some secret military organization that will take over if the colony is attacked. It may even be some privately funded company that has a deal with the military to test their new weapon. In the latter case, the MC will belong to that company. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
chronoso said: totally agree with you It looked nice. That's really all I can say that was good about the first episode. Plot seems pretty generic and I think |
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