Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Sep 19, 2016 12:31 AM
#51
Only major nitpick I can think of is that it still is incomplete. There is still a lot of questions I want answered and yet the anime just ended(though spectacularly, it just ends... You know, stuff like.... What will happen with the selection? Who is the Jealous Witch? Why does she hound Subaru? Is this connected somehow to why he just transported in Lugunia? What is this dragon stuff? etc. etc. Makes me wish so hard for a season 2 Though, this can be a positive to the show if you look at things differently. Overall, it's a great piece of fiction. |
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Sep 19, 2016 12:45 AM
#52
What do I hate about Re:Zero? Stupid treads like this, you could do this for any anime but because its popular we get pages and pages of people trashing the show. |
Sep 19, 2016 12:47 AM
#53
I'm just 5 episodes in.....if I have to point out a flaw it has to be how everyone is an ass to the MC. I also feel a storyline with time travel can get messy. So far so good for now but I feel this could be a problem later. |
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Sep 19, 2016 12:54 AM
#54
Bowie said: Subaru and Rem being the perfect cuck couple but not getting together. :( this Z4k said: Not enough episodes. that Felix should be a woman with B or C cup :D and whole cult was to big madness for me other things were (almost) good. |
ArawajSep 20, 2016 7:29 AM
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Sep 19, 2016 5:29 AM
#55
The horribly written characters, especially Subaru, and the constant feeling that the Anime is trying very hard to deconstruct the genre by all means. It feels as if some pillow-clutching guy who just finished Evangelion thought "I can do that too!" |
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Sep 19, 2016 7:30 AM
#56
tbh I liked the show but maybe it's because i've seen so many romances, but I kind of feel like the show could do without it LMAO. Also I think the time spent between Rem and Emilia as heroines kind of struck an imbalance in the show. Of course Emilia to did so much for Subaru, but we don't really get to see her fighting or in action or really showing MUCH emotion, albiet from yelling at Subaru for being selfish/and humiliating them both + the ending scene where she explained some of her feelings, where as Rem get's a lot of time payed attention to her back story, her emotions...everything, but then basically becomes irrelevant from the last few episodes to make room for the "true main girl" Emilia. ofc people will go overboard on Emilia vs. Rem, but I honestly was worried about literally everyone else those last 5 minutes while waiting for something bad to happen that I wasn't that touched by Emilia's big character moment- or w/e. IDK how to really solve this problem other than balancing their relevance, or maybe getting rid of Rem's little romance thing- and making them just super good friends lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I also think sometimes the fanbase can get a little intolerable, especially towards the beginning where literally everyone was complaining about how nothing made sense on episode 2 lol. It's kind of why I tried to stay out of tags/forums until the last few episodes bc it was ruining my general experience of the show lol. I mean, looking back, where their flaws? yes. Did it drag during some periods? yes. I personally dislike the emphasis on romance and would have taken more shots of plot relevant stuff or shots of everyone being happy (b4 instant despair lol) but it seems White Fox took a lot of time to stay as true to the LN/WN as possible as an adaptation so I think the general storyline is something you have to take up with the author bc it seems that the books feature this triangle as well so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Overall i did really enjoy this show though, and I liked waiting each week for a new episodes. I'm sad it's over : ( for rn, i wish they could have gotten 40 or 50 episodes promised instead of just 25 because i'm really thirsty for more answers. |
Sep 19, 2016 7:45 AM
#57
CherryLover said: The most irksome element of this show is its sheer pretentiousness (which is also echoed through its fanbase). It pretends to be a "compelling take" on the self-insert isekai trope and feigns the notion of being a(n) "deconstruction/subversion." It manages to accomplish this farce through cheap pandering tricks, such as running a "waifu simulator" on its entire female cast, and a blatant, cringe-worthy edginess. Wrapping a generic story in all this subterfuge herds the masses around a notion of hype and creates source material elitism the likes of which I rarely find myself seeing. Pretty much. I never bought the whole subversion shit. ClearSky said: I didn't like how repetitive the scenes can get. Like I had to watch the same/similar scenes no different than before just to get another "restart" It's like dying in video game and having to load your last check point. But I probably dislike it mainly because of fanbase. It's just... too much hype from them for me and that gets annoying to the point where I'm just done with the series overall Pretty much here. I kinda don't care if there is a second season in the works or how good the show is supposed to get, I've been hearing that for the last 4 months. The only thing that has changed is that they've upped the gore and increased the melodrama. And from what I keep hearing is that is pretty much all there is in store in the future works. EmpirenXD said: GodlyKyon said: So any self-respecting critic would think the show is fucking fantastic.. Let me also add that the fanbase is almost always trying to attack critics themselves instead of their statements. That goes without saying. I felt like the protester of a civil rights sit-in at the end of every episode. I could praise most of the episode or simply question the logic of a character and before I knew it I had a page worth of innuendo and ad hominem. XG-70d said: - The background music was almost non-existent for me. I don't remember a single good track from the show. Same here. Apart from the second OP I could care less about any of the OST. Most of it was blocked out by Subaru's crying, or Rem and Beetlejuice's screaming. |
Sep 19, 2016 8:10 AM
#58
This will at least enlighten some of you: Fappa said: Aside from subjective disliking which is perfectly fine you're giving the show criticism that isn't exactly correct like that takenMalUsername said: Least favourite: Episodes 14-18: Aside from the shock value, it was repetitive. How it goes is like this 1. Rem is perfectly nice, 2. Rem dies I'm sorry but not only are you assuming things which make your claim here not correct, you also didn't catch the effect both timelines had on Subaru which pretty much destroys any nuance of repetitiveness. It's possible to miss so let me try to explain it :). You're basing your criticism of repetitiveness on two events ( which is already a stretch to call repetitive ) which aren't the same. You're assuming that Rem died in the timeline of episode 16/17 but well never was this stated. There is a big difference between dying and being wiped out from existence. takenMalUsername said: 3. Subaru breaks down because he is a "realistic = good" MC for three episode with the fourth being a bland eyeroll (seriously Rem you spend 5 minutes on how you dreamed of your future with him). Once was good, twice is pushing it and by the third time, it has worn off and I stopped caring. I don't know what you want to achieve with the "realistic = good" part because it takes more than that which is given here. This here brings me to the second point which breaks your idea of repetitiveness. The first of two times Subaru broke down ( Episode 14-15 ) he was haunted by guilt over his reckless stance towards his RBD ability and what consequences his action caused. In other words he thought that he would simply use RBD before things went way too wrong and he could stomach what's thrown at him. Once he snaps out of his escapism everything breaks in on him but he still tries damage control towards his broken mind. This is expressed by him trying to call out to Emilia at first but then reconsidering and calling out to Rem because finding her dead would be the "lesser evil". Finding more and more results of his reckless actions combined with the experience of death let him fall into some sort of severe escapism that would appear as insane for some people but as Petelgeuse correctly said he's merely pretending to justify himself right at the moment. This actually names another difference between this timeline and the next one which you claim to be repetitive. Subaru's state of mind is completely different. In the second loop ( Episode 16-17 ) he's driven by utter madness to a point where his set goal differs entirely from the one he set himself before. Instead of trying to save Emilia to regain his position at her side he now only works towards the merciless killing of the people that he directed all of his negative emotions at. A big difference right? On top of that the message that these two loops have is also completely different. Episode 14-15 brings out Subaru's worst and he gets continuously punished for his actions. Episode 16-17 is one big learning process for Subaru. He gets several lessons taught in a very harsh way that he rejects now but applies later on starting with episode 19. On top of that starting with episode 17 he actively starts to go through the process of self reflecting to a point where he throws an entire rant at his own face. You see? While one loop is the hammer shattering Subaru entirely the other one is him starting to pick himself up and see himself for who he is. Two completely different timelines delivering two completely different messages. About episode 18 and Rem's speech. I don't get what you mean by once, twice and third time. She said it once and this was lengthy because the episode adapted an entire light novel chapter pretty much 1:1. You can't like the content of it but respect the fact that it's adapted really closely from the source material, things like this are bound to happen. takenMalUsername said: The story also repeated itself from arc 2. eg ep 18 with Rem is similiar to the lap pillow with Emilia, ep 15 Subaru is broken and gives up remember Subaru staying in the libary or Subaru's outbrust to Emilia. Wrong. First off the reasoning for why both scenes even happened is completely different. In episode 8 Subaru's mechanism to cope with traumatizing experiences which is putting up a happy facade backfired hard on him. He locked all the negative emotions deep inside him and with the self created pressure of having to get through this timeline at all cost let him burst. On the other side the scene in episode 18 only came to exist because Subaru started to go through an act of self reflection and he realized his position in this world. While he in episode 8 was at the bottom for trying way too hard to fix all by himself he wanted to flee from the exact same burden in episode 18. He knows he is a no one and that the consequences of his lazy lifestyle is now haunting him while Subaru from episode 8 still subconsciously neglected all of that and tried his hardest to be someone he simply couldn't be at that time. In episode 8 Emilia acted as his valve to let out most of his piled up emotions which was a first in his entire time he has spent in this world. As a result Emilia became the anchor of his sanity, someone he needed around him otherwise he couldn't keep it together, this is evidential by the downward spiral of despair he entered once Emilia went out of his reach. On episode 18 Rem didn't become his valve to let out his emotions but the person to turn his self loathing which resulted from the act of self reflection in motivation to star anew and as someone new. Episode 8 projects emotional comfort directed towards the present while Episode 18 support is directed towards the future. Both are acts of support but they couldn't be more different from each other. So yeah you simply took all of that on its face value and didn't paid a second thought to it :/ takenMalUsername said: Subaru in 1 episode goes from running away forever to I can do anything. Not right. Subaru even states himself that he can't do a thing on his own, that's the point. He is utterly useless by himself due to the previous 17 years of his life. His mistake the entire time was to pretend he could do anything without realizing/accepting that his past mistakes marked him for life. He now accepts that only with the help of others he can hope to achieve something. Also if the episodes after the 18th one tried to tell you anything that Subaru still has extreme problems to properly stomach what's happening around him. He was extremely afraid of the confrontation with the witch cult as we could see in episode 19, he still can't stomach moments of loss and failure, he still has to face the consequences of his past mistakes evidential in episode 23 and much more. Besides when did you ever get the impression that Subaru truly did want to run away with her :o? If anything the entire dialogue made painfully clear that this is not what he truly wants. "We wanted to smile when we talk about our future" is a very obvious remark on that. It's not that he jumped from running away to trying again. He never truly wanted to run away and Rem realized that immediately. takenMalUsername said: The tone felt like it was thought "dark" and "suffering" = good. eg ep 15 especially the Rem scene. I believe ep 15 can be correctly called melodramatic. You're doing the same as in the beginning. I don't get why you always say x = good as if it is objectively stated that this is the case. Well let me tell you something, that can be applied to everything. Thing is episode 15 and the entire Rem scene brings more to the table than dark and suffering which refutes this statement entirely. Melodramatic is when drama is being overdone and only for the sake of drama itself. The thing is here it has several purposes that made it anything but melodramatic, so no. takenMalUsername said: Rem becoming bland and boring during the second half. That one is completely subjective. You can see her like that :). I find it interesting how Rem claims that Subaru made her time running again but in the end she simply shifted her inferiority complex and tendency to put someone on a pedestal towards Subaru which shines a new light on most of her berating in episode 18. If you think about it Subaru who is a sick person gets comfort and advice from another sick person yet she herself thinks that Subaru changed her to the better. takenMalUsername said: Emilia and a bunch of other characters being put on a bus and forgotten Not really. You just don't realize the scope of the story which is not something everyone can now that's clear. This would hold truth if the anime season adapted a good chunk of the story...the thing is this entire season barely adapts 10% of the story. If you asked an author to keep around all of the introduced characters for most of the story's starting area he'd just shake his head and have a good laughter. The point of this very first section of the entire narrative is to introduce characters, set up world building and a definite plot. All we have seen so far is the introduction of the characters, the world building has yet to really be built up and the plot also doesn't exist yet because it's too early for it. |
Sep 19, 2016 9:05 AM
#59
Subaru is motivated almost solely by saving his waifus. Much of his dialogue is also about his waifus. Every time he gets a breakdown, he rediscovers his love for them and works out better plans to save them. Give the guy more interesting motives. Betelgeuse may be good for memes, but he's so over-the-top crazy there's no moral ambiguity here. And since Subaru is mostly heroic and altruistic, you have a pretty black and white morality going on. Some side characters might be better at this, but they barely get any screentime. Poor pacing and moves too slowly sometimes, mostly because there's too much time spent on fight scenes and gore which, while sometimes artistic, aren't really that interesting in terms of plot advancement or character development. The mansion episodes felt especially slow. This was time that could have been spent on the royal selection or the mystery surrounding Emilia. |
Sep 19, 2016 9:34 AM
#60
1. That it ended. 2. Made us all fall in love with Rem, only to see her dumped. Also, more Felt plz. |
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Sep 19, 2016 11:37 AM
#61
Crashmatt said: >I hate Re:ZeroWhat do I hate about Re:Zero? Stupid treads like this, you could do this for any anime but because its popular we get pages and pages of people trashing the show. Good, you've finally seen the light! ;) |
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Sep 19, 2016 11:41 AM
#62
Cabron said: Crashmatt said: >I hate Re:ZeroWhat do I hate about Re:Zero? Stupid treads like this, you could do this for any anime but because its popular we get pages and pages of people trashing the show. Good, you've finally seen the light! ;) I love the show actually so your opinion doesn't matter to me. |
Sep 19, 2016 11:42 AM
#63
fucking hell this was so bad just everywhere how do I even begin... 1) subaru is an obnoxious moron that nobody would get along with; anyone who calls him a fucking deconstruction of a LN protagonist needs to kill themselves. at least he "developed" though. now he's just a normal generic protagonist... x fucking D 2) everything was extremely forced. terrible storytelling, terrible execution. the conflict in the court with subaru yelling retarded nonsense at the knights? the fuck was that? and wtf was that ENTIRE scene? everyone just casually fucking walks up to subaru in the middle of a formal meeting just so that they can show he's surrounded by lots of friends or some shit?? lmao 3) what the fuck happened to felt 4) what the fuck happened to ram 5) what the fuck was puck doing the entire time 6) in other words, shit characterization and character development. literally just introduces some characters, then throws them aside. What terrible storytelling. "best girl" rem is literally 3 different girls. and the only fucking one that got any actual screen time... 7) seriously wtf was puck doing the ENTIRE fucking time in the last arc 8) the ENTIRE last episode that trap to kill betelguese? the hell was that??? why didn't julius just fucking come to him with subaru? or better yet, why didn't they just fucking surround his ass and kill him like they did the first time? he obviously couldn't fucking tell all his fingers were dead, so he clearly has 0 sensing abilities or whatever asspull the writer wanted to stick in 9) that bag of rocks at the end...wtf was that nuke??? LMAO. first time around it was a shitty half assed explosion, second time it was literally a mushroom cloud. holy shit this retarded inconsistency 10) deus ex machina... just so much of it....literally seconds, they just introduce some shitty asspull to make the writers life easier. easiest example, the latest one - blondie randomly having the ability to talk to trees and animals??? seriously???? 11) all subaru "fight" scenes. he does nothing. actually stands there and monologues at betelguese for a good 2 minutes before throwing shit at him. and to try to make the fights seem hard...he gets pushed. he literally gets pushed and falls over and is like "ahhhh, that hurts!!!". what the fuck. I can't even write properly after watching that last episode, just needed to vent...holy shit. the entire anime was just....disgusting too. not "shivers down my spine this is creepy" disgusting, just trash disgusting. Just a generic tale wrapped up in shitty gore as a pathetic gimmick. the only thing remotely acceptable was the parallel between betelguese/the witch and subaru/emilia. though I feel that may be giving far too much credit to the writer. |
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Sep 19, 2016 11:49 AM
#64
Crashmatt said: Looks like sarcasm is lost on you.Cabron said: Crashmatt said: What do I hate about Re:Zero? Stupid treads like this, you could do this for any anime but because its popular we get pages and pages of people trashing the show. Good, you've finally seen the light! ;) I love the show actually so your opinion doesn't matter to me. |
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Sep 19, 2016 11:50 AM
#65
EmpirenXD said: GodlyKyon said: So any self-respecting critic would think the show is fucking fantastic.. Let me also add that the fanbase is almost always trying to attack critics themselves instead of their statements. The fanbase is a toxic waste. The best girl wars suck. |
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Sep 19, 2016 11:51 AM
#66
I mainly dislike how much of an idiot Subaru is during the early episodes (so much to the point where I dropped this show after six episodes) but I also hate the lack of subtlety, and the rather uninteresting world I was presented with. Seriously, who didn't compare the ogre story to Rem and Ram as soon as they heard it? What kind of interesting features does the world have so far? If your story does not give me any reason to watch it early on, promising that the interesting stuff will come at a later point, then I have no reason to watch it. |
I'm just confused by the whole concept of scoring by "Writing and characters." If you're not entertained, why should you care? |
Sep 19, 2016 11:53 AM
#67
-Crusch -What I interpreted as the message of the show. Edit: -Also, not enough Beatrice. |
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Sep 19, 2016 12:05 PM
#68
Another issue I had with Re:Zero (althoug this one is a bit more on the subjective side, but I will still try to explain my reasoning), is the fact that I feel like it didn't really impact me in a way that was memorable. This is mostly due to the show not really developing its story or its characters in a continuous manner. I've already mentioned how short Subaru's character development in the 3rd arc was, but most of the development other characters received was lack luster and or dropped when things began to get interesting. I understand that White Fox were attempting to make the anime adaptation to Re:Zero as close to the source material as possible, but when producing the show, you have to realize the possibility that you may not get a second season and therefore amend certain parts for the anime adaptation for it to stand on its own. If you produce a show expecting a second season, and the show isn't successful enough for one, then it only makes the first season look incomplete. I'm not saying that the entirety of Re:Zero should have been forced into one season, but they could have moved developmental points of certain characters into the first season in order to bolster its integrity as an adaptation. Such characters like the relationship between Rem and Ram. We were hinted at their relationship with Subaru's story about the two ogres, as well as the flashback showing their tragic childhood, but that's all they get. You don't get to see how their relationship evolves in relation to their past. The same can be said for Subaru. We know effectively nothing about his backstory, which if we look at this first season as a stand alone, is a pretty major hole left in his development. Felt we got to see some development in the first arc, and how it translated into her behavior as a candidate which was nice, but it still could have been more fleshed out. I am especially interested in her relationship with Rom and why they have such a close bond. Emilia's lack of development made her feel rather flat and boring, granted she didn't exist purely to suck Subaru's cock - no, that's what Rem exists for =]. But like many other characters, she spends so much time being absent through the series (especially the 3rd arc), that her character doesn't leave much of a lasting impact. The only character who is featured consistently through Re:Zero is Subaru, and for the most part, he leaves a bad taste in my mouth more than anything. Elsa and Betelgeuse also received no development, making them flat, one dimensional villains. Maybe a second season will fix this, but as of right now, I can't see myself looking back on season one as a good thing (or a bad thing really, because it wasn't really bad). TL;DR: DEVELOP YOUR FUCKING CHARACTERS. Even if it means straying away from the source material a little bit. |
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Sep 19, 2016 12:18 PM
#69
Sep 19, 2016 12:51 PM
#70
It left a lot of questions, one of them would be: How did he get to the fantasy world? Also They Didn't kiss in the end (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ |
Sep 19, 2016 1:08 PM
#71
What I disliked the most - and what keeps me from considering the anime great (9) instead of "just" very good (8) - is that it is often so damn sentimental and cliché. I didn't like that Subaru falls obsessively in love with the first beautiful girl he meets (who also happens to be extremely kind), and I didn't like that Rem does the exact same thing with him (Rem is great, don't get me wrong, but going to such lengths for someone who you have just met is a bit extreme). I didn't like that he played as large a role in some battles as he did: for example, he shouldn't have been able to evade some of Elsa's attacks, and he certainly shouldn't have been able to defeat Betelgeuse (spirit form) by himself. Without his ridiculous luck (and uncharacteristically brilliant plans), he would have died a lot more often. I also didn't like the sentimental moments in the show: the doves flying in the sunlight after Rem's monologue, the teary confession to Emilia in the sunset, the fact that people cry all the time, and so on. And I absolutely hated the use of pop music (I always do). It's so ... un-subtle. It ruins what could have otherwise been a great moment, or at least makes them seem bland and cliché. Mostly, though, it was a very good anime. It was well-directed, the relatively realistic focus of the series (the main character has flaws, hates himself for having them, fails because of them, and so on) was refreshing, I liked how the series often had a dark, bittersweet tone and the characters (and the world in general) are interesting and all seem to have complicated backgrounds. Sure, not all of them were developed as much as they could have been, but this is only the start of the series and many characters have already made big impressions. So I'm definitely looking forward towards a second season. |
Animosh91Sep 19, 2016 1:34 PM
Sep 19, 2016 1:13 PM
#72
the ending, that conclusion to the series that left me with a seriously bitter taste......... things are supposed to go from bad to worse, until he begs to die. this is not a happy story, this is not supposed to heal. |
Sep 19, 2016 1:17 PM
#73
poorly written plot lack of character development Subaru didn't change at all |
Sep 19, 2016 1:35 PM
#74
still dont know why Subaru got stuck in this world or why he was chosen by that witch and what happened after this shitstorm at the end. Also I hate why they didn't explain what happened with best waifu :( |
HaaaiSep 19, 2016 1:39 PM
Sep 19, 2016 1:42 PM
#75
Quick reaction to the finale in particular: Wow, what was that garbage? Cliches piled on cliches, an eight minute ending of cringe-worthy on-the-nose dialogue, etc. In a show that was supposedly a 'deconstruction,' you're gonna end on one of the most standard phony love confessions ever, with a weepy-happy heroine to boot? After episode 15 (easily the peak of the series), Subaru became the boring, infallible hero character he was never supposed to be. Meanwhile, all the interesting characters were sidelined and basically contributed nothing to the overall outcome. Maybe if the show had continued and tied up just a few of the myriad loose ends it set up, I wouldn't be so baffled; however, as a self-contained season, there's no discernible point to the overall arc of the series. Based on sheer entertainment value and a few genuinely great episodes, I can't rate it less than a 5, but it seriously took a nose dive during its second half. That was one of the worst endings relative to a show's themes I've ever seen. |
Sep 19, 2016 2:01 PM
#76
Sep 19, 2016 2:04 PM
#77
i dislike everything about it. first i have no idea what the fuck was going on, because this guy respawned and his reactions to everything are so unreal. the white hair girl talks just as she is not real, i mean usually they try to make characters act realistic at least. he kept carrying his stupid ramen for 3 episodes or more idk. i dont remember. i skipped a few eps and saw the blue hair maid. her shitty personality was horrible. i dont see it. what is good about this anime. |
Sep 19, 2016 2:08 PM
#78
The fact that it has more than 5 episodes, what a piece of shit show. |
Sep 19, 2016 2:13 PM
#79
Too "light novel"/full of anime nerd-isms. |
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Sep 19, 2016 3:09 PM
#80
Here is my list from another thread with a few changes: Episodes 14-18: Aside from the shock value, it was repetitive. How it goes is like this 1. Rem is perfectly nice, 2. Rem dies, 3. Subaru breaks down because he is a "realistic automatically means good" MC for three episode with the fourth being a bland eyeroll (seriously Rem you spend 5 minutes on how you dreamed of your future with him). Once was good, twice is pushing it and by the third time, the shock value has worn off and I stopped caring if you're trying it again. - The story also repeated itself from arc 2. eg ep 18 with Rem is similiar to the lap pillow with Emilia, ep 15 Subaru is broken and gives up remember Subaru staying in the libary or Subaru's outbrust to Emilia. - Subaru in 1 episode goes from running away forever to I can do anything. - The tone felt like it was thought "dark" and "suffering" automatically means good. eg ep 15 especially the Rem scene. - I believe ep 15 can be correctly called melodramatic Rem becoming bland and boring during the second half. Cool character being introduced, but not getting enough sceentime. Ram and Rem's hairstyles. I know it is petty but the fact the bangs just have a flat cut off bug me. Maybe that's why I can't fully like their design. Hime cuts are fine but this I just can't be on the bandwagon for. No one (except for the villians and minor background characters) died and stayed dead. I would rathers see Subaru making the difficult choice of letting someone die for the greater good than seeing him watching Rem die over and over. The royal election being put aside for Subaru and Rem's suffering corner. Betelgeuse being the big bad. He is fine for a side villian, but he seem like straight out of Konosuba (which would be awsome if he was in it). To prove this look at him fly. Al being in the series for like 10 minutes. Best boy deseres better. |
Sep 19, 2016 4:25 PM
#81
Well, it feels like an insulting deconstruction of a type of anime I really like, so that kind of irked me. KonoSuba was the same way, but at least it was damn good comedy so it was really easy to forgive. Re:Zero felt more like a pretentious, nose in the air deconstruction whereas KonoSuba felt less up its own asshole but still knew what it wanted to do and put forth a lot of effort into doing it well. Lack of Felt was awful, she was the greatest thing this show had to offer Everybody talked about Rem as if she was great, but I didn't see much about her that interested me on a personal level. Nor did I see anything interesting about her on a general where I could at least understand where other people were coming from - Ram interested me more with the dry humor she displayed early on, but Rem never had a lot going for her; she was just kind of an extremely thirsty side bitch without much definition past that. She's devoted and does a lot more for Suburu than Emilia does, but what else is interesting about her personally? Her backstory wasn't something I found particularly sad or sympathetic, even if I got why it'd hurt both her and Ram so much. When she did anything it was mostly just for Suburu's sake, putting him up on this extremely high pedestal, without ever really showing much about herself past she really wanted his dick inside of her. Why is she so popular? I mean, normally I don't mind this kind of thing. I tend to enjoy it, even, but this show didn't rely on other aspects that makes Isekai entertaining to me, they were near absent because this show tried so hard to be realistic instead of being an idealistic and fantasy-like storybook. It clearly really wanted to be more character focused than the average Isekai, so what about this character is so good? I wouldn't dislike her so much if this wasn't a deconstruction, truth be told. And why did Suburu even like Emilia so much to begin with? Why is that his endgame? On more than one occasion, Rem did the exact same thing she did, if not better than she did, but Suburu is just so far up her asshole that he couldn't even recognize that her devotion was shit. She just giggled and smiled sometimes and got mad sometimes. Hell, I don't like Rem very much and she offered Suburu so much more than Emilia did. It also felt like his raging boner for Emilia made Suburu hold the idiot ball a bunch of times. The scene where he declared himself her knight at the gathering thing in particular was absolute cringe because of how stupid he acted, and not even a funny cringe. I felt so much secondhand embarrassment for the guy, even though he acted like an idiot. Overall, I gave it a 7/10. I enjoyed watching it, but there was a lot about it that annoyed me as well. Sometimes I found myself imagining things it could do that I think would make it less irritating or more interesting. It did a good job at capturing my imagination and there were quite a few characters I actually enjoyed, so I'd be hard pressed to say I had a bad time watching it, but it was just...so much blech at some parts. |
ManabanSep 19, 2016 4:36 PM
Sep 19, 2016 4:29 PM
#82
Hodor98 said: Is there anything to hate about Re:Zero? I mean, maybe that Rem wasn't chosen, or maybe even that episode 25 wasn't available anywhere for 1 hour. The retarded main character, the wastage of time due to overall pointless resets, the fact that they spent about 14 episodes just so that Subaru can save Emilia, the unnecessary hype (though this was the fans' fault), no world building whatsoever, etc. |
TyrelSep 22, 2016 3:44 PM
Sep 19, 2016 5:06 PM
#83
- except for Subaru, Rem there is no development for other characters - associated with this ; no time for others characters - what going on with episode 12-13? election shouldn't look like this - when, why MC fall in so deep-lavu-lavu with silverhair girl? - there is a lot of unsolved thread - open ending... pretty slothful WF - some scheme-break wasn't a good idea ( fortunately the most part is) - unstable level from 12 to 25 episode - sometimes im really was embarrassed, cause of MC and must click "pause" in the half episode... Despite this, i probably could mention more pros than cons, so that why i gave it 9/10. |
Sep 19, 2016 5:22 PM
#84
Sep 19, 2016 5:26 PM
#85
I swear to god i dont get it, I dont get the hype surrounding this show. I feel like this will eventually become like the new SAO where there is just such a divide in the community in terms of its quality. Re:Zero stumbles early on but manages to prop itself back up in the middle but then falls apart worse then ever before. The characters are annoying, bland given useless backstories and most of them are just introduced to feel up the screen and i can compare Subaru and Emilia's Romance to Anakin and Padme's from the Star wars prequel trilogy, where Subaru would constantly go back for Emilia and i could never think of a reason why or but Subaru could think of 2000 apparently (kill me). The action for what its worth does look good but im a story and character guy mostly so if it has great action every now and then but im not invested it just looks like money wasted. Also the fact that they havent even hinted at why Subaru is in the world just pisses me of cause i feel like there should be a reason and whenever something interesting starts to happen or is hinted at the show completely ignores it (Subaru being pride but just being like nah). The villains are extremely weak, not threatening and not given as much screen time as they should have been so they can properly develop so when the characters are scared over the edge lord Betelguese you dont understand why cause he is kind of funny. Also due to semi cliched nature of the last third of the show you can just predict the final outcome. Sound was fine but nothing to memorable for me not gonna waste time on it. By the end of the show when Subaru died i wish he stayed dead and the show would end, but i was not so lucky. This review is all over the place and not very formal but this is just me letting my unfiltered, not spell checked and formatted opinions out there. If you like Re:Zero thats fine, i know im in the minority but to me personally it represents what is wrong with not only the anime medium, fans and culture but basic story telling across all forms of entertainment report |
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Sep 19, 2016 5:36 PM
#86
Honestly, the predictability of the story in general. The overall premise at the beginning sounds interesting, for one, I got hooked at the first episode. But they kinda overkill the ability to return by death. This, in addition to the fact that the director/author is too self indulgent in the sense that whenever ANYTHING goes wrong/not perfect, you know for a fact that Subaru will have to return by death. Once you starts seeing this, the story line gets immediately boring. In fact, one could argue that everything can be seen as filler once you recognized that Subaru will die for sure whenever he is faced with a new/strange circumstances. While some people would say I'm wrong and autistic for even thinking that some episodes could be considered fillers when in fact, it reveals a lot about the characters and showing indirect character development. Let's face it though, would the anime really be that much worse off without it? Imo, they wanted to include those part to add realism to the story and that's not wrong, but back to my main point, they overkill it and becomes rather a waste of time to watch it. My overall rating of this show is a 2/10. Before everyone tries to flame me for it, I would just like to say that I couldn't find the appeal of this show. To be completely honest, without glossing over anything, I feel like this is just another SAO shitstorm. Only reason why it is not a 1 is cuz I find the animation pleasant to watch and that's about it. |
Sep 19, 2016 5:47 PM
#87
I hated the loli Beatrice simply because I hate lolis. I hate the gay ass cat boy because I hate traps I hate subaru for being weak, obnoxious, stupid I hate Emilia for being stereotypical female mc I hate that we didnt get to see Reinhard fight I hate that the piece of shit witch never appeared They did not even explained how subaru got transferred to that world Why are the candidates to become the ruler or a country little ass girls? What is this world anyways? we dont know shit |
Sep 19, 2016 5:48 PM
#88
Really the only part that I really enjoyed was the White Whale battle. |
"The sun is my enemy, but the moon has been good to me." |
Sep 19, 2016 11:54 PM
#89
Only the middle portion was decent (around when Betlegeuse was introduced). Beginning was a snoozefest and the final arc was a trainwreck. Ending was lame as heck. Friends promised me that Subaru gets better but he was a degenerate pos all the way through. Opening theme wasn't even that good. There are much better waifus elsewhere too. Looks like White Fox won't ever top Katanagatari. |
Sep 20, 2016 12:07 AM
#90
Making_Spaghetti said: I swear to god i dont get it, I dont get the hype surrounding this show. I feel like this will eventually become like the new SAO where there is just such a divide in the community in terms of its quality. Re:Zero stumbles early on but manages to prop itself back up in the middle but then falls apart worse then ever before. The characters are annoying, bland given useless backstories and most of them are just introduced to feel up the screen and i can compare Subaru and Emilia's Romance to Anakin and Padme's from the Star wars prequel trilogy, where Subaru would constantly go back for Emilia and i could never think of a reason why or but Subaru could think of 2000 apparently (kill me). The action for what its worth does look good but im a story and character guy mostly so if it has great action every now and then but im not invested it just looks like money wasted. Also the fact that they havent even hinted at why Subaru is in the world just pisses me of cause i feel like there should be a reason and whenever something interesting starts to happen or is hinted at the show completely ignores it (Subaru being pride but just being like nah). The villains are extremely weak, not threatening and not given as much screen time as they should have been so they can properly develop so when the characters are scared over the edge lord Betelguese you dont understand why cause he is kind of funny. Also due to semi cliched nature of the last third of the show you can just predict the final outcome. Sound was fine but nothing to memorable for me not gonna waste time on it. By the end of the show when Subaru died i wish he stayed dead and the show would end, but i was not so lucky. This review is all over the place and not very formal but this is just me letting my unfiltered, not spell checked and formatted opinions out there. If you like Re:Zero thats fine, i know im in the minority but to me personally it represents what is wrong with not only the anime medium, fans and culture but basic story telling across all forms of entertainment report r/anime is what wrong with anime community.If a show is hyped or popular to follow r/anime will take every crap of it. |
Sep 20, 2016 12:10 AM
#91
No complains, nothing to dislike either. I enjoyed it thoroughly and thankful I get to watch it for free. |
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Sep 20, 2016 12:59 AM
#92
Sep 20, 2016 1:07 AM
#93
ClearSky said: But I probably dislike it mainly because of fanbase. It's just... too much hype from them for me and that gets annoying to the point where I'm just done with the series overall You took the words out of my mouth. I always felt Re Zero was overhyped and overrated (not saying it is a bad show). |
Sep 20, 2016 1:17 AM
#94
Gave it an 8/10 overall, but brought my score down for a few reasons :- I wasn't too keen on how quickly Subaru started bouncing back and forth between being completely fucked up in the head to being perfectly fine again. I started to dislike him in the mid-teens when he became an insufferable asshole, but I became more accepting of it when he started showing signs of being mentally unstable; that scene in the village where he doesn't even realise there's tons of slaughtered people all around him until he physically fell over one worked very well in that regard. His cognitive dissonance suddenly came to a head there, and his previous rash actions made sense, retroactively. But then he dies once, and suddenly does a 180 because he has new information now. Na it's K that everyone died, I'm back and better than ever! Up until that point, it had taken him what, 15? episodes of dying and starting over with his mental state slowly deterioriating. I specifically mention one comment in the first few episodes, where someone had forgotten who he was because of the time reset. Little comments like that sort of foreshadowed what was going to happen to him if he kept dying and resetting all the time; the constant effects of them would obviously get to him. But for the entirety of that to be thrown away by a single death - and then later on by a single 10 minute conversation with Rem - seemed dumb. It seemed like a waste of all that buildup. You don't just get mentally broken and then be like "Na it's all a fucking laugh mate, s'all good!" after experiencing such dissonance that you were wholly unaware of dozens of dead people around you. My other issue would be the intense infatuation Rem felt towards Subaru - it seemed far too exaggerated for someone that, on her end, had known Subaru for only a handful of weeks or so. This point I'm willing to concede on a little because it's hard to remember just how much time actually passed in the anime inbetween all the resets, but that conversation where Rem was talking about how she imagines going off into the village with Subaru, getting married and having kids and whatnot....Na. That ain't the type of shit you imagine with someone that you've known for a handful of weeks, or up to two months at best. I can see reasons for why she would have begun to feel infatuated with Subaru but nowhere close to that extent. I also feel in a similar vein towards Subaru feelings aimed at Emilia, although at least from his perspective he's easily spent many weeks being with Emilia and then simply having it reset again. It wouldn't be so bad here if Emilia wasn't absent for so damn long. |
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Sep 20, 2016 2:07 AM
#95
Too much hype for an average series which in the future there will be many similar titles with this sort of plot |
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Sep 20, 2016 2:49 AM
#96
-All of the characters that got any depth focused on them were written horribly -Every other character has their personality that defines them and nothing else -Animation quality heavily dropped from episodes 1-3 and never got as good(in fact it got progressively worse) until episode 25 -Arc 1 was just 3 episodes of fantasy thriller, Arc 2 was the only good arc and it wasn't for the story it was for the characters, Arc 3 was shit -Sound design was meh -Tried to act like it was so cool and subverting and deconstructing shit but it didn't actually do any of that and was just standard isekai fantasy world with a character that someone actually tried to write instead of leaving him as a blank slate. Even if they did write him terribly. -The only thing you can care about is the conflict Subaru is in during the other time-lines and he's a fuckwit so I can't care about him. |
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Sep 20, 2016 3:28 AM
#97
Things I didn't like/annoyed me: - Subaru was really annoying/unlikable until like the last 5 or so episodes of the series - Emilia was hinted to have some sort of backstory, but never got one - We never got to learn who the witch truly was or why/how Subaru got into this world, but we did hear that her voice sounded a lot like Emilia's - Too little was explained about the whole election, because Subaru interrupted everything - Too little screentime of Reinhardt! - No alternative ending with Rem, like in the novel. Hopefully we'll get an OVA... |
Sep 20, 2016 5:53 AM
#98
@On_the_Lam By the way, when was this 'shipping of characters' stuff created? ... Why do people ship? Guess it's just something simpler for most to understand? To discuss about? "Oh, this character is more this, more that... I prefer this one- I think this one fits that other character well!" Eh. |
Sep 20, 2016 7:12 AM
#99
I swear to god i dont get it, I dont get the hype surrounding this show. I feel like this will eventually become like the new SAO where there is just such a divide in the community in terms of its quality. Re:Zero stumbles early on but manages to prop itself back up in the middle but then falls apart worse then ever before. The characters are annoying, bland given useless backstories and most of them are just introduced to feel up the screen and i can compare Subaru and Emilia's Romance to Anakin and Padme's from the Star wars prequel trilogy, where Subaru would constantly go back for Emilia and i could never think of a reason why or but Subaru could think of 2000 apparently (kill me). The action for what its worth does look good but im a story and character guy mostly so if it has great action every now and then but im not invested it just looks like money wasted. Also the fact that they havent even hinted at why Subaru is in the world just pisses me of cause i feel like there should be a reason and whenever something interesting starts to happen or is hinted at the show completely ignores it (Subaru being pride but just being like nah). The villains are extremely weak, not threatening and not given as much screen time as they should have been so they can properly develop so when the characters are scared over the edge lord Betelguese you dont understand why cause he is kind of funny. Also due to semi cliched nature of the last third of the show you can just predict the final outcome. Sound was fine but nothing to memorable for me not gonna waste time on it. By the end of the show when Subaru died i wish he stayed dead and the show would end, but i was not so lucky. This review is all over the place and not very formal but this is just me letting my unfiltered, not spell checked and formatted opinions out there. If you like Re:Zero thats fine, i know im in the minority but to me personally it represents what is wrong with not only the anime medium, fans and culture but basic story telling across all forms of entertainment |
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Sep 20, 2016 7:29 AM
#100
Rehls said: @On_the_Lam By the way, when was this 'shipping of characters' stuff created? ... Why do people ship? Guess it's just something simpler for most to understand? To discuss about? "Oh, this character is more this, more that... I prefer this one- I think this one fits that other character well!" Eh. I'm fine with shipping because it doesn't necessarily have to be canon and it has never ruined a series for me. I find it hilarious sometimes as well. I've personally never shipped either. |
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