Which do you think the General Public shuns more?
Yeah, it is pretty obvious what gives it bad rep |
| It's a combonation of edgy action shows and moe waifu harems. That's pretty much why I avoided anime up until my senior year of high school. That and weebs. |
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Red_Keys said: It has nothing to do with "lolis" or "ecchi" or whatever the fuck. If you said those words to a non-anime-fan, they'd have no clue what you just said. They don't need to know those terms to get a negative impression upon seeing them in anime. FlatEight said: It's a combonation of edgy action shows and moe waifu harems. That's pretty much why I avoided anime up until my senior year of high school. That and weebs. *combination |
They can surely be fun just like quite a few not so good anime, hell, I enjoy watching them. I'm not saying Lorre is bad, I'm just saying that some people feel like TBBT is a show with smart comedy, when it is clearly not. People don't need to watch the type of shows that they don't like. Nobody forces them to watch a ecchi harem or a hentai. Most of the pervertedness in these said shows is executed in a comedic fashion as that is its tone and many people like it. Not everything needs to be serious and mature for it to be good. Also, ecchi or hentai is not representative of the entire anime medium, so the fact that people diss the entire medium due to one part of it is perplexing. I get that anime is a proper medium in Japan for all ages unlike other countries where animation is still largely viewed as something that is consumed by kids. I personally don't care about target demographics as I can enjoy a show targeted at kids and the same time loathe a show targeted at adults like me. I wish others viewed it that way as well. I'm not so sure that animation is held to higher standards in comparison to live action TV shows/movies. The suspension of disbelief and things that are acceptable (like weird situations, weird comedy,etc. that wouldn't work in a live action show) are higher though. |
bikers123Jun 28, 2016 2:10 PM
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AltoRoark said: exactly, they use words like peso and pervert, if their opinions were based on experience they probably wouldn't have those opinionsRed_Keys said: It has nothing to do with "lolis" or "ecchi" or whatever the fuck. If you said those words to a non-anime-fan, they'd have no clue what you just said. They don't need to know those terms to get a negative impression upon seeing them in anime. |
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AltoRoark said: Red_Keys said: It has nothing to do with "lolis" or "ecchi" or whatever the fuck. If you said those words to a non-anime-fan, they'd have no clue what you just said. They don't need to know those terms to get a negative impression upon seeing them in anime. FlatEight said: It's a combonation of edgy action shows and moe waifu harems. That's pretty much why I avoided anime up until my senior year of high school. That and weebs. *combination My b. I turned off autocorrect on my phone. |
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| @KonaKoffee I didn't mean dumb it down as in talk down to you, i mean dumb down as to what someone may actually say. Also, editing main post atm. I have seen these statements for family guy, spongebob, my little pony (even more than anime, at least in the west), comic books, video games, reality shows, oscar worthy films, songs, musical artists, novels, etc. There are people that already shun people who spend time reading comics [call them social outcasts/neckbeards], watch reality TV [call them sheep/classless], Music [Look at people attacking Rap, Electronica, Country, Pop [Do we even need to say the Justin Beiber/One Directon/Miley Cyrus/Jonas Brothers lash outs], and so on. The rest simply don't care of just happen to like 1 element. But all Genres are in the line of fire. |
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| Most people I've seen who refuse to watch anime either associate it with moe highschool garbage or battle shounen like DBZ and Naruto. I've never seen anyone refuse to watch anime because it's all pornographic or just really lewd. I think most here are afraid to admit that maybe most Westerners aren't that enthralled by cute girls doing cute things. |
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LogicalInjustice said: @KonaKoffee I didn't mean dumb it down as in talk down to you, i mean dumb down as to what someone may actually say. Also, editing main post atm. yea because even though your other points may not only be exclusive to anime, they could be factors as to why people don't want to get into watching it in the first place. |
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You mean it's obvious why people on MAL think it gets a bad rep. |
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KonaKoffee said: LogicalInjustice said: @KonaKoffee I didn't mean dumb it down as in talk down to you, i mean dumb down as to what someone may actually say. Also, editing main post atm. yea because even though your other points may not only be exclusive to anime, they could be factors as to why people don't want to get into watching it in the first place. YES, that's what i meant to portray [and have edited the post]. If the general public starting looking for an anime without the proper direction, they may be start to be off-put by what they are seeing and start to notice patterns even if they aren't in all anime series. It seems we have too many Shonens and too many Slice of Life/Romance/Harem anime [even in the mainstream] to make anime socially acceptable in western cultures. |
LogicalInjusticeJun 28, 2016 2:27 PM
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| People are like "Oh no its cartoons we can't watch that" and then they go watch Frozen 12 times and the Lego Movie 10 Times. |
Bourmegar said: Except Frozen is a classical Disney movie most people see with their families or do not see alone. It is kind of rare to see people watch an anime series side by side. A better example would be someone who watches Spongebob 12 times compared to anime, but it's still subjective. Also nostalgia.People are like "Oh no its cartoons we can't watch that" and then they go watch Frozen 12 times. |
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| fucking trolls voting #2 as if thats actually the main reason anyway, NO FAN should give a flipping fuck what the "general public" thinks about anime anyway. what the fuck is with all these ppl caring SO MUCH what non anime fans think about it? fuckem |
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| In terms of the "general public" in the most broad sense of the term, there is no "bad rep" for anime. Most people either don't know or don't care about anime strongly one way or the other. In terms of the internet, which, yeah, anime is heavily stigmatised in many places, I would say it's because of reason #2. Most of the "anti-anime" people on the internet mostly talk about oversexualisation when explaining why they think anime is bad. That doesn't mean this oversexualisation is bad at all.These "sexualised" genres serve a niche, which the anti-anime people just don't fall under, doesn't mean it's bad, and the anime industry absolutely should not listen to these people, unless they start financially-supporting the market. This is what happened with videogames, lots of game developers took game design notes from people who don't play, or even hate games, and what we got was a market dominated by derivative games that want to be movies, and end up being mediocre as both games and movies. You can only get bad results from pandering to people who weren't invested in that media in the first place. (also, I can back this up at least with personal experience, up until 2014 I was one of those "anti-anime" people, and the main reason why I hated anime was because I thought it was oversexualised/"perverse") |
LobindeJun 28, 2016 2:50 PM
LogicalInjustice said: YES, that's what i meant to portray [and have edited the post]. If the general public starting looking for an anime without the proper direction, they may be start to be off-put by what they are seeing and start to notice patterns even if they aren't in all anime series. It seems we have too many Shonens and too many Slice of Life/Romance/Harem anime [even in the mainstream] to make anime socially acceptable in western cultures. Well, one of the things that makes anime special is how unique it feels from western cartoons. Not to say this is why anime is "so much better", but I enjoy the difference I feel when i watch western cartoons and then when I watch an anime series. I don't think genres or demographics are the problem, it more so has to do with creators not taking a chance on certain stories or art styles. And tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if some anime creators didn't know how to make something different from what they usually have created. Honestly, I may be american but I have never really accepted Japan to cater any of their series to western audiences in that type of way. And honestly, anime isn't the only thing that has fallen victim to the shitty romance titles or shitty action scenes. When it comes to films and books I have found myself having a hard time getting entertained by the romance ones, because so many romance films and romance novels are absolutely terrible. Whether they are mainstream or not, I have watched and read more bad romance titles than good ones (but I won't deny I have seen some great ones, but remember this is all my opinion). Like, I understand we have a ton of generic romance, generic harem, and generic battle shounen anime that may not help non-anime fans get into it. However, I never thought much of it because the shitty generic actions and romance occur in many films as well. Idk, but even if something is simply "decent" it is difficult to grab someone's attention and make them love a story if it is a romance (with a bad romance story) or a bad action/thrilling story (that is lacking thrilling scenes, even though the story pretends like they are). As a whole, when it comes to any entertainment media especially anime, it'd be nice to see creators have more room to make anime series from the heart instead of writing some shit down and saying "meh, it's okay but at least it'll sell". Mamster-P said: what the fuck is with all these ppl caring SO MUCH what non anime fans think about it? fuckem lmao, I don't understand either tbh. There are worse things to be hated for than to be hated for liking anime someone else may call "perverted" . If someone says otherwise, then I wish I was them because they must have had a good life to get upset by criticisms like that and not dealt through worse. haha Unless you dress up like an anime cat girl and start meowing at people, non-anime fans don't care enough to make fun of you for liking anime (and you'll mainly get made fun of for being cringey, not just because you like anime and that's it). Omg, one time I ran into a weeb like that and she kept fucking meowing at me and her friend was dressed as inuyasha. There wasn't even a convention around, and she fucking followed me meowing at me. I didn't get angry with her, but it got pretty uncomfortable after 10 minutes lol. |
KonaKoffeeJun 28, 2016 2:56 PM
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| I've spoken (in PERSON) to a good amount of people over the years about what they think of anime or if they'd be willing to watch it, and a large majority of them all thought one of the following: It's for kids, like pokemon, and so it's boring. It's Japanese so it's automatically 'silly' and 'weird'. It's 'evil'/violent and so it's gonna rot your brain/traumatize you. And the most common one; it's perverted and has nudity so it's going to get you hooked on pornography. |
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KonaKoffee said: lmao, I don't understand either tbh. There are worse things to be hated for than to be hated for liking anime someone else may call "perverted" . If someone says otherwise, then I wish I was them because they must have had a good life to get upset by criticisms like that and not dealt through worse. haha Unless you dress up like an anime cat girl and start meowing at people, non-anime fans don't care enough to make fun of you for liking anime (and you'll mainly get made fun of for being cringey, not just because you like anime and that's it). Omg, one time I ran into a weeb like that and she kept fucking meowing at me and her friend was dressed as inuyasha. There wasn't even a convention around, and she fucking followed me meowing at me. I didn't get angry with her, but it got pretty uncomfortable after 10 minutes lol. fucking seriously, if you have time to worry about what random ass people think about your love of Japanese cartoons then you probably have too much time on your hands..... WHO FUCKING CARES? be a nice awesome person and NO ONE expect super insecure people who want to make themselves feel better with laugh at you thats what many anime fans don't seem to realize.... the only people who are going to give a shit if you masturbate to cartoons are people who have nothing better to do with their time but look down on others in order to feel "cool" anyway, i have a hard time believing that last part, thats way too wtf lol |
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| One person tells someone anime is all about lolis getting butt humped, and that person forever thinks that's all anime is about. It's like this for most things people know little about. It'd be like me telling you the Spanish word "Muerte" means life in English, and you can't really say I'm wrong since I speak the language and you know barely know three words in it. So you take me seriously and that's where the downfall starts. |
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Mamster-P said: fucking seriously, if you have time to worry about what random ass people think about your love of Japanese cartoons then you probably have too much time on your hands..... WHO FUCKING CARES? be a nice awesome person and NO ONE expect super insecure people who want to make themselves feel better with laugh at you Exactly. The people who go hella hard making fun of ANYONE liking anime are already losers, and the average person who has never seen anime doesn't care anyways. People here need to remember that anime may affect their lives and hobbies, but it is not who they are as a person. You are more than your animu. In her defense, I saw the girl around my school before and she may have recognized me and thought she was being funny. And I was too nice to say anything back then, so I kinda just let her follow me and stayed quiet as I cringed. lmao wasn't the weirdest encounter I have ever had, but it is the weirdest encounter I have had with a girl who wanted to be a cat...or thought I would somehow enjoy it? I guess? |
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KonaKoffee said: In her defense, I saw the girl around my school before and she may have recognized me and thought she was being funny. And I was too nice to say anything back then so I kinda just let her follow me and stayed quiet. lmao wasn't the weirdest encounter I have ever had, but it is the weirdest encounter I have had with a girl who wanted to be a cat...or thought I would somehow enjoy it? I guess? she one of them otherkin mfs lol? your signature is so cute lol |
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| If the general MAL populace that's active on the forums is indicative of what the western anime community is like, I totally understand why anime gets a bad rep. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
lmao yea, she got a little too into it. Even her buddy was lookin at her like "can we go now?" haha. And thanks buddy ^_^ As usually your Mai avatar is very adorable. Holybaptiser said: If the general MAL populace that's active on the forums is indicative of what the western anime community is like, I totally understand why anime gets a bad rep. I felt like I would come off as too much of a bitch for saying this, so I was hoping someone else would come in and say what I was thinking. Thanks, fam. |
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People here need to remember that anime may affect their lives and hobbies, but it is not who they are as a person. You are more than your animu. I would actually disagree. There are positive and negative changes to both. Pros: Becomes more socially outgoing in a community they fit in Finds another like-minded individuals who share common interest or to contrast Increases their spectrum of media and tastes Cons: Anti-social tenancies such as becoming hostile, emotionally unstable, elitist, turns into an Otaku/Weeaboo Starts detaching from reality Starts affecting others lives besides their own, such as relationships, family, and friends @KonaKoffee |
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KonaKoffee said: Holybaptiser said: If the general MAL populace that's active on the forums is indicative of what the western anime community is like, I totally understand why anime gets a bad rep. I felt like I would come off as too much of a bitch for saying this, so I was hoping someone else would come in and say what I was thinking. Thanks, fam. I got you, homie. I'm only here to post the arrogant and condescending stuff that wanna be elitists would. |
| I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| People seeing anime as girly or whatever is possible, but unlikely. At least in my country, the only shows which fit in that description that were aired were Sailor Moon and Sakura Cardcaptor, the others being DBZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter 98, and mostly manly action shonen. Probably the NSFW genres give most of the bad reputation. They are talked as a joke by most anime fans (even if you like them you must have joked about their silliness sometime) and people who don't get the joke thinks it's creepy (this happens A LOT where I live). Time isn't a reason. Most anime are much shorter than western tv shows. Even if they are longer in the episode count, for example Hunter x Hunter 2011 is shorter than most mainstream Western Shows, because the episodes are 24 minutes long. The only possible reason this would give anime bad reputation is people who only heard about DBZ, One Piece, Detective Conan, Doraemon, Pokemon and Naruto. And nowadays almost everyone who has a little idea of what anime is know about short titles like Death Note or SnK. And thinking that "there is nothing good to watch" is ridiculous. Something like that would give bad reputation to the person who thinks like that. It's just being completely ignorant about a lot of things. With all said, I think nothing of this is what actually gives anime a bad reputation. We all know it's the fans, the more obsessive ones who do it. Let me paint you a picture, a normal person walks through the street, and while he looks around, he sees a stupid teen doing stupid teen things, with the hair tinted blue, a weird cat eared cap, and a backpack completely covered by anime pins. The normal person would think "Oh poor soul, his mind has been consumed by chinese cartoons". WRONG. This teen was most likely stupid before watching anime, and now has a new hobby and is extremely loud about it, but people won't realize this. From my point of view, it goes like this Annoying people = Annoying people. Annoying people + Anime = Annoying people who make the entire thing look bad. People who blindly thinks anime is bad because of this most likely see it this way Normal people + Anime = Annoying people. So yeah, I think that the thing that is giving anime a bad reputation are the extremely lousy fans that you can find anywhere. This happens with everything though, and probably in the stigma against anime will no longer exist, or at least it won't be as strong as it is currently, just like how videogames went from "geeky stuff" to everyone having a console or a gaming pc in the last 10 or so years. |
| Obviously shounen like Naruto, etc. OP why don't you put long run shounen on the poll wtf is wrong with you? |
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You said: Because I can't update the poll so people who already voted can revote -_-. Believe me, I wanted to mid-way, but it's kind of too late. After enough time has gone by, I'm going to make a new thread that basically asks how to make Anime better for a larger audience using everything everyone has said in this thread.Obviously shounen like Naruto, etc. OP why don't you put long run shounen on the poll wtf is wrong with you? |
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LogicalInjustice said: People here need to remember that anime may affect their lives and hobbies, but it is not who they are as a person. You are more than your animu. I would actually disagree. There are positive and negative changes to both. Pros: Becomes more socially outgoing in a community they fit in Finds another like-minded individuals who share common interest or to contrast Increases their spectrum of media and tastes Cons: Anti-social tenancies such as becoming hostile, emotionally unstable, elitist, turns into an Otaku/Weeaboo Starts detaching from reality Starts affecting others lives besides their own, such as relationships, family, and friends @KonaKoffee These are all aspects that are part of a hobby that still does not define who your core is on the inside. It may change some of your interests, interactions with fellow fans, increase anime taste, but why would you assume all of these define who you are on the inside? yes, these things that can affect one's life and parts of their ideals on certain issues, but they were someone before they were an anime fan and certain pros and cons developed because of who they are at the core. Yes, from childhood to a adult hood my taste in entertainment media has a wider range. Yes, I have spoken to more anime fans since becoming a more active anime fan Yes, there could have even been times where I came off as anti-social because I was busy watching an anime series and didn't feel like being bothered. ^ Do these things define my morals? How I handle and view my relationship? How bad or good I treat others? If I go from loving my friends to hating them? My mental state? These are more definitive of who I truly am before my hobby does or how that hobby affects my life. Because the way you allow that hobby to affect your life has everything to do with who you truly are, not simply because you started enjoying anime more. Holybaptiser said: I'm only here to post the arrogant and condescending stuff that wanna be elitists would. b-b-b-b-b...but...you are an elitist. :O dun dun dduuunnnnn |
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| There are two distinct groups - those who think anime has the same intellectual quality as American cartoons and those who think anime is solely hentai or ecchi. In both cases the hate is simply a failure to do any kind of research. The best way to educate somebody is to redirect them to some of the objectively better shows for newer audiences. Inform them to just look at them, not to watch them. Telling somebody to watch something is only going to put them off whereas having them read a synopsis wastes very little time. The shows you recommend need the following requirements: Absolutely no fan service This is pretty self-explanatory. People don't want to watch cartoon porn. The goal is to convince people that anime has something intellectual to offer. Fan service completely counters that goal. Less than or equal to 13 episodes Time is precious. The first few series you recommend need to be short and to the point. People aren't going to want to waste their time sitting through something they think they hate for a potentially lackluster result. This is the least important rule on this list since many 26 episode series are great starters. Stylized aesthetic As unfortunate as it is, the shows you recommend need to have better than average visuals. You want a show that carries itself well (similar to how a person wants their partner to appear well-groomed). Doesn't focus on teenagers Sorry, that's just how it is. The rest of us know there are some very intellectual shows that star teenagers, but newcomers will come with the bias of "teenager = ecchi". Shows starring adults are the way to go at first. Doesn't contain a lot of Japanese culture references Self-explanatory. Newcomers won't get the references, so the quality of the show will decrease and seem random. Ghost in the Shell, Hellsing, Death Parade, One Punch Man, Detroit Metal City, Eve no Jikan, and Jojo are good examples (ignoring the <=13 episode rule) for the psychological, supernatural, thriller, action, mature comedy, slice of life, and shounen genres respectively. |
ShirashoJun 28, 2016 3:48 PM
| Depends who you're talking about. People active online more than the average might know about anime through memes and they might judge the medium through that (which would give you 'it's perverted.') Others might only know of it through stuff that aired on TV and is popular with children, thus giving them that impression ('it's childish'). For every choice on this poll there's someone who believes it, but I don't think any of those choices can fully describe the general public's response. For example, my friend just had this to say: "I can't get beyond the art style." In the end it might just simply be: it's a weird niche piece of entertainment with its own weird visual language that most people won't be able to relate to. The ironic thing is, if someone with a bad impression (no matter what it is) of anime decides to look beyond the surface they'll find anime is even weirder than they previously thought possible. There's currently a reaction-type Youtube channel where all of this is unfolding, basically, in real-time. It's interesting and it shows that it really takes a certain type to get into this shit. Most people voting 'perverted' on this poll are probably doing so because that's how they view anime. I don't think the average person has come in contact with the internal complaints of the anime community. |
syncrogazerJun 28, 2016 4:27 PM
 anime plebs like these two are the cancer |
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Gesu- said: People are xenophobic, that's all. One day I was watching a French movie and one of my friends (who watches anime btw) barged into my room asked me wtf I was doing and why I was watching something that wasn't in English. That's hilarious considering they watch anime :P Are they a dub watcher??? Most outsider complaints about anime that I find either go from one extreme to another. Either "so immature cartoons are for kids" or "eww you watch cartoon porn". I don't even find that they get to the "time" portion of it because they're too much on the outside looking in. |
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| Most Cartoons in America are aimed at kids so the mainstream population mostly associates animation with kids, yet South Park and Family Guy exist though they might find those shows just immature and full of gross out humor and assume that if there is adult anime that it's like that. Even with South Park and Family Guy most people still say that cartoons are kids stuff. Then there's the opposite where they think it's all ecchi and hentai. Then there's probably some that see stuff like Pokemon but also know about hentai so they think it's just for kids and perverted adults with no in between. |
| The hentai. It's always the hentai. MattKitsune96 said: Then there's probably some that see stuff like Pokemon but also know about hentai so they think it's just for kids and perverted adults with no in between. And the Pokemon doujins. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: The hentai. It's always the hentai. MattKitsune96 said: Then there's probably some that see stuff like Pokemon but also know about hentai so they think it's just for kids and perverted adults with no in between. And the Pokemon doujins. Yeah, sometimes I just look in google images at Pokemon and every once in a while some Rule 34 stuff comes up. |
MattKitsune96 said: I mean, at least there hasn't been Pokemon hentai yet. So long as they stay as doujin they should be manageable :VYeah, sometimes I just look in google images at Pokemon and every once in a while some Rule 34 stuff comes up. |
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OneTrueEmiya said: MattKitsune96 said: I mean, at least there hasn't been Pokemon hentai yet. So long as they stay as doujin they should be manageable :VYeah, sometimes I just look in google images at Pokemon and every once in a while some Rule 34 stuff comes up. Yeah, Nintendo would thankfully never let that happen though. |
| The anime community as a whole is cancer. |
Gexis said: The anime community as a whole is cancer. I'll have you know, as a proud Yukinofag I shall defend my fellow Yukinofags from being called cancer. You may only call Irohafags cancer, alright? |
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| Pretty much all the shit I've gotten for anime, especially among my friends, are cartoon porn jokes. Hentai is sadly heavily associated with anime. |
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| The public generally being full of close-minded idiots is why anime has a bad rep. If you judge anime but can only name Pokemon or Naruto you're in no position to judge anime. You only make yourself look stupid. |
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| Hentai and sexualized lolis. I've noticed how tentacles are usually used to parody anime even though it's more of a hentai rather than anime thing (non anime fans tend to think anime and hentai are the same) .The thought of sex with tentacles would be very weird and off putting to most people. Sexualized lolis or just sexualized underaged looking female characters are definitely going to turn non anime fans off. Non feminists aren't going to care about sexualized adult female cartoon/2D characters hence why people don't have a problem with a cartoon character like Jessica Rabbit or a comic book character like Vampirella but average people would become squeamish at the site of a sexualized little girl looking character. Sure anime with sexualized lolis aren't mainstream but they can easily be found online and one bad experience can color your perception of the entire medium. Hell I just did a google image search of loli and there are 2 nude lolis at the beginning of the page. Fictional little girl fetishism is very anime specific and not generally found in other mediums so it would weird out and turn off non anime fans. |
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| Its a conspiracy by hollywood to block the potential competition. |
| Non-anime fans or haters are either "It's animated then it is for kids" (with these assumptions based on cartoons they have watched as kids) or "Anime is just perverted and porno" (based on the stereotypical anime fan aka the fat guy with no life). I meet both of these frequently when I mention that I watch anime. Plus we have a whole media making these wrong assumptions cause they explored only one type of anime and manga, and then generalize everything based on this. |
kolaponJun 30, 2016 3:15 AM
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Shirasho said: I will actually use this to educate my non-anime friends, who think anime is just a kids shows, since you explained it perfectly.There are two distinct groups - those who think anime has the same intellectual quality as American cartoons and those who think anime is solely hentai or ecchi. In both cases the hate is simply a failure to do any kind of research. The best way to educate somebody is to redirect them to some of the objectively better shows for newer audiences. Inform them to just look at them, not to watch them. Telling somebody to watch something is only going to put them off whereas having them read a synopsis wastes very little time. The shows you recommend need the following requirements: Absolutely no fan service This is pretty self-explanatory. People don't want to watch cartoon porn. The goal is to convince people that anime has something intellectual to offer. Fan service completely counters that goal. Less than or equal to 13 episodes Time is precious. The first few series you recommend need to be short and to the point. People aren't going to want to waste their time sitting through something they think they hate for a potentially lackluster result. This is the least important rule on this list since many 26 episode series are great starters. Stylized aesthetic As unfortunate as it is, the shows you recommend need to have better than average visuals. You want a show that carries itself well (similar to how a person wants their partner to appear well-groomed). Doesn't focus on teenagers Sorry, that's just how it is. The rest of us know there are some very intellectual shows that star teenagers, but newcomers will come with the bias of "teenager = ecchi". Shows starring adults are the way to go at first. Doesn't contain a lot of Japanese culture references Self-explanatory. Newcomers won't get the references, so the quality of the show will decrease and seem random. Ghost in the Shell, Hellsing, Death Parade, One Punch Man, Detroit Metal City, Eve no Jikan, and Jojo are good examples (ignoring the <=13 episode rule) for the psychological, supernatural, thriller, action, mature comedy, slice of life, and shounen genres respectively. |
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| None of the above. It's the cringey-fans and the way the act/present themselves. Personally I don't think it's that much of a bad thing though. |
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