Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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| R-rekt ? god that ending, my body wasn't ready for this, sad we'll have to wait one more week to find out more about what happened :/ |
| so at this point i'm willing to believe Subaru is just mentally ill, his reasoning, conclusions and even minor side comments are just completely out of whack. |
Fappa said: Zalmox1s said: I still don't like the way Subaru is in the last 3 episodes. The jump from nice, lovable, caring guy to selfish, arrogant and full on asshole dude is way too steep. You just have to understand the subtle development towards this current state with the information you got from this episode. Ever since episode 8's lap pillow scene Subaru unconsciously and subtly built up this obsession towards Emilia. Remember when he said that he thought Emilia would understand him? That's from this particular scene in episode 8. This started to progress his obsession. It took a crazy level when she got way out of his reach through that entire election event. His safe haven distanced itself from him and so he became extremely angsty and acted without much thought. Now that she is completely gone and actually made this perfect image of her in his head crack he spirals downwards to insanity which becomes clear through the extreme case of escapism and delusion. I do like the way you present subaru's developpment here and in an other post. I wonder if you got a better insight because you read the novel, it might be easier then to understand this. How ever good the reasons are though, it's still hard for me to cheer on a character who is so weak that he broke into an easily hatable nuisance. Some break and become depressed and one wish them to get well soon, but subaru breaks and becomes arrogant, thickheaded, stupid, aggressive, violent, "delusional" ... in one word despicable and one wish him not to get well soon but to get beaten even more with the hope it would give him back some sense of reality. In the end it's all a matter of taste of course, but subaru is not simply too weak, his weakness makes him become a real loser on the human level. Some prefer loser's struggle stories, others prefer hero's struggle stories. I'm more one of the latter which is why I have a problem with the last developments. |
Ysad_ZiwezhanJul 3, 2016 5:31 PM
ParadoxicalNocte said: " Fappa said: "I'm surprised that some people don't see how Subaru not grasping the situation he is in nor learning from last episode is a sign for his mental illness. He is literally mentally broken right now which results in this lost sense of reality. He has become fanatic in his idea of reality, his idea of truth that he rejects everyone who tries to deny that truth. On the one side the words of Emilia resonate in his head and keep bringing him down to reality but on the other side Subaru lives in denial towards the truth. This clearly show us that this whole obsession with Emilia is no mere quirk in his personality no it actually has reached a scale where you can call it a mental illness. He rejects anything that goes against his own truth and even the people themselves. He interprets others' attempts at trying to keep him safe as shortsighted or that they think nothing of him. And not only that, he justifies it all by reasons that no one else will ever trust. No one can believe in that or even cares enough about Emilia to be her ally. Note how every person who tried to talk against his own beliefs got majorly rejected by him. Reinhard…Kadomon ( Apple merchant ), Crusch & Ferris and at last Rem. Personally I love that development or rather the negative development as this is how humans are sometimes, especially in a mentally unstable condition. They become stubborn and don’t give up on their belief until they have to pay a prize for it. Of course this is taken to an extreme level in anime but it replicates a natural development. You can actually see how he starts to develop some kind of escapism when he walks through the village. Subaru opens the door the first time how there is a corpse sitting in the chair but Subaru just stares at it and closes the door. The second door he opens bumps against a corpse. You can hear the foot steps walking through blood. In these very first seconds Subaru lives in denial to what actually has happened here. He started to develop some sort of escapism but got knocked out of it once he physically interacted with one of the corpses and perceived the horror around him completely. Fappa. I don't want you to misunderstand this for any prejudicial cherry picking but as you have compared & evaluated a real world epidemic. With decades of long & subjectively diverse etymology and literature - To a pseudo reality with spontaneous yet emotionally intelligent characteristics, features & most importantly 'adaptations'. There is a few points that may (or may not) perhaps be educational to your aforementioned comments that seem to be contradicting your claims and not treating the anime with the respect, you have mentioned to enjoy, overall. So based on my understanding, in regards to your mediocre accusations, I must also express my discernment towards vague & irrational contributions towards your comments & overall review that lacks conceptual & inconceivable consensus. Sadly In my most humble opinion, that it must be treated as something that goes beyond the norm and realm of mere opinions or reviews. Would you consider my implications to be credible that judges you from one comment? Should I now conclude that you suffer from or present symptoms that closely resemble Narcissistic Personality Disorder? Or would you prefer an irresponsible 'diagnosis' & an on-going treatment plan for Borderline Personality Disorder? But I could also, just accept that it's just your way of thinking & just treat this as a mistake stemming from the lack of understanding, on a prevalent stigmatic & despairingly stereotypical - buzz-word; namely 'mental illness'. Of course, not forgetting that the classifications are exclusive to the person involved. We all inevitably have our own retrospective biases. It's fine, I mean we could condition or rewire our thoughts and regulate our emotions through mere respiration of two well known gases, simple right? Or oppositely we can just find our self in a situation with no experience or knowledge on how to handle or respond to the given situation/s. That's the whole beauty of the mysterious & unpredictable way of life. However I believe even with perspective & speculation, there must be certain limitations & sensitivity, especially when judging a situation with no understanding or clue of a character that has a sudden appearance in an unknown world. That convenient point is most of our starting point? One must consider, especially within this context of the authors innovative imagination & creative writing before such a conclusive review. This novel/manga creates such opportunities for unique emotional empathy & cognition. With such diversely complex variations it is a laughable to be able to Identify - Classify the generalised notion of 'mental health', in which you have pointed out numerous times. Try to acknowledge these points, that may enhance your approach to criticality & future judgements. Before reflecting on fictional characters, try reflecting on your own incompetencies. If this is possible, then at least try to use the fictional comparisons, to your own past and present responses to situations? Mental Illness as a whole is a very problematic & fragile aspect of our life, we constantly shift between thoughts and emotions, responding to different situations, that in most cases are completely opposites. Try to be more sensitive and enjoy an anime, with more conceptually relative comments. ParadoxicalNocte....Lol you srsly have too much free time. :D:D:D. Sad. |
SalathielJul 3, 2016 5:42 PM
| [center]If you aren't troubling the rest of the world, then there's no harm in being abnormal. |
| Not much happened to get me into this one. Catboy dressed like a girl JPOP idol with the voice of a 40 year old woman. Uh? Comic relief! Reinhard being a bro. Seriously, real MC material here. Sub being a jerkwad. Way to blow off your savior punk. Sub sucking at wood duel. Give it up chump. Sub whining about Emilia. Rem is more worth it! Rem being a lovely and loyal maid. Sub being dumb Then... Rem is dead?! Really, they love making the one they build up die first. Yay next episode something happens! |
| Brilliant episode as always! Arc 3 is finally here, just a taste of whats to come and let the suffering begin muhahahah Time for the sloth to make his entrance :) |
Mamster-P said: QWERTYFish25 said: Fun fact: Certain members of the klan wore black robs too, and red ones, and green ones. oh derp, and i knew that too.... lol..... i mean.... you have to...... in the south..... Mamster don't act surprised...WE CAUGHT YOU! On another note. |
QWERTYFish25Jul 3, 2016 5:37 PM
QWERTYFish25 said: Mamster-P said: oh derp, and i knew that too.... lol..... i mean.... you have to...... in the south..... Mamster don't act surprised...WE CAUGHT YOU! On another note.  caught me what? im the type of person the KKK hates lol.... lol yea that was pretty damn said, but im assuming he'll just kill himself.. |
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I shouldn't have laughed at this. You're an awful person. |
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| @Mamster-P Oh, sorry I reread the message. Pandering aside this is cute. |
why is the pandering aside? and LMAO at the bottom right of the screenshot |
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lonelytree said: Jagd84 said: That's not what he was doing though. He was going there to assist and Rem and the village like he did in last arc. There is nothing wrong with that. If not for him taking action in moment several people would not be alive today like Rem who needed to be rescued after reckless going after the demon dogs by herself. Besides he needs to know whats going to do anything. You don't need to be an expert fighter to save people. Your knowledge can be used prevent such thing from happening in the first place can do just that. I get that he needs to be there in order to know what's going on, but the matter of the village is a different story. Back then, he enlisted the help of Ram to go together into the forest which I was totally fine with. He did his part well as a decoy. However in this scenario, he was recklessly intending on solving this problem by himself to prove that he is all that Emilia needs out of an idiotic sense of self-righteousness. If he suspected something, it would have made much more sense for him to ask for someone with strength (i.e. Reinhard) to come along in case shit gets bad. Going by himself is just suicide, but the main problem is that Subaru isn't consciously thinking of "okay I'll go once to gather info and if I die it's no big deal since I can restart with my newfound knowledge". He is overconfident to think that he can solve this issue alone. Right, but my point is that his reason for doing are understandable. That is how he solved the other issues. He's past successes him to put everything on his shoulders and it's difficult let go of that because he doesn't know what else to do. |
| Wow, I hate to say it but it's nice to see a character actually act human. |
FlamepriesT said: Great music and atmosphere. I wish I had more time to be able to read the WN. I know this is the third chapter of the WN, but does anybody how many entries have been covered so far? I haven't looked the WN, but for LN we have covered 3 and half chapters of 5. We will most like finish the 2nd half of it next week. |
| Wow, Crusch-sama is really a cutie in her casual clothes. I think I like her. Also Horie Yui is doing cat again? I'm sold :D But main character surely grew egoistic and selfish, you can tell something is very wrong with him just by listening to his seiyuu and he is also thinking mainly of himself.. witch influence maybe? The OP was great! Better than the first one and we can already tell that Emilia is main goal of Jealous witch.. too bad Subaru only helped her getting more and more grief by the quarrel. Rem x Subaru moment was precious.. but the ending... that was harsh (since right now we still don't know is Return by Death works here and now). I only wish they can be healed somehow.. would be bad if we have to repeat last arc here. |
| I was not prepared for that ending in the slightest despite already knowing what happens. I just want her to be happy ;-; |
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GD1551 said: Dunno if someone said or mentioned this already but these are the same guys that destroyed Rem and Ram's village right? They got the same hoods and MO. My guess they are servants of the witch, which is why they bowed and allowed him to pass. Yes, you're correct. |
| Rem still best girl. Hate it when Subaru give that desperate face to get Emilia while still enjoying Rem's company. HE DOES NOT DESERVE YOU REM!! |
Jagd84 said: GD1551 said: Dunno if someone said or mentioned this already but these are the same guys that destroyed Rem and Ram's village right? They got the same hoods and MO. My guess they are servants of the witch, which is why they bowed and allowed him to pass. Yes, you're correct. Awesome I predicted this. This episode was AWESOME! Even with little Subaru. The episode title perfecto. Baka-Hiru said: Rem still best girl. Hate it when Subaru give that desperate face to get Emilia while still enjoying Rem's company. HE DOES NOT DESERVE YOU REM!! Oh the tells of unrequited love. At least he recognized her and then felt a panic for her in the end. He complete stopped thinking about anything but her. Plus lucky guy gets a red, sure he gonna kill himself and try to fix this, his only self made super power at the moment. With great power comes great responsibility Subaru. You got to man up and solo it. |
Air-DragonJul 3, 2016 6:14 PM
| REMMMMMM ;_; Best girl is down....I hope a reset happens soon so I can see her bright smile again OP was SWEEEET and got me really hyped for what appears to be just sadness and angst from Subaru. I can't wait for next week's episode, but I'm also dreading it, since it seems like everything is just going to go downhill from here. Subaru just needs to take a step back and run away, but I have a feeling that he'll go looking for Emilia and get himself killed as usual. Here's to hoping he won't have to do too many resets this time! Awesome episode! |
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| ok I really hate how Subaru was desperate from the last two episodes..but who could blame him....but All things done. the things that left him (The goans)... when he was going to the roswell mansion, did not kill him maybe because they knew about the curse and know that it will not be of any help. |
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Nope. Nothing wrong there. :D |
| [center]If you aren't troubling the rest of the world, then there's no harm in being abnormal. |
| Fuck the cringe isn't over. Dammit Subaru this is all your fault again!! |
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| Can someone reply to me with a spoiler tag if he commits suicide, just that lol. |
| sic mundus |
| Subaru still acting like the retard he was last episode. I get it, he's going a little nutty because of everything he's been through but you can't expect me to believe he's not fully aware of his actions. When he mentioned about Emilia getting mad at him to Rem in the hotel, Subaru knows his choices are stupid. Thankfully the ending scene seemed to have brought him back to his senses. As much as I am saddened to see Rem like that, it was important for Subaru to experience ultimate despair. Emilia leaving him may affect him greatly but she is still alive, I would assume so, at least. Now... What the hell happened to the village and Rem at the end there? I saw a bit of white fog too. After a couple slower episodes it's nice to get back into the grind. |
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| This pear, so delicious. |
| Bruh why is the KKK there Subaru's white knighting makes me wanna facepalm till my hand phase through my skull and touch the back of my chair Reminds me of this  |
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| OMG the ending song... MYTH & ROID's songs are for sure the best for this show, need now the release of "theater D" ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ |
| Subaru's obsession with Emilia must be planted by the witch who brought him there otherwise it just seems unreasonable for him to be like this even if he died so many times. MC's a suicidal maniac at this point, best girl also died, so better kill yourself to save them. Would be hilarious if he wakes up in the inn, then I hope he'd go exploring like a normal person would do rather than be attached to all this stressful crap caused by being around an half elf. |
ninja88880Jul 3, 2016 6:41 PM
| What's with the MC? He thinks too highly of himself even though he's a delusional, pathetic loser! He so needs a reality check and follow the advice people are giving him. If he stayed in the Crusch's mansion, Rem would've been alive. Prolly cant say the same about Emilia, Ram, etc.. in the other mansion... but point is, REM WOULDVE BEEN ALIVE!! Subaru is getting to my nerves!!! |
You can just be yourself. Do things your own way, one step at a time. You'll get there. Just be yourself, you'll be fine." ~Fruit Basket |
ninja88880 said: Subaru's obsession with Emilia must be planted by the witch who brought him there otherwise it just seems unreasonable for him to be like this even if he died so many times. The thing that makes that hard to go by is just the fact there are many MCs who go through the lengths we've seen, granted they don't go through the prospect of mutilation over and over. |
ninja88880 said: Subaru's obsession with Emilia must be planted by the witch who brought him there otherwise it just seems unreasonable for him to be like this even if he died so many times. MC's a suicidal maniac at this point, best girl also died, so better kill yourself to save them. Would be hilarious if he wakes up in the inn, then I hope he'd go exploring like a normal person would do rather than be attached to all this stressful crap caused by being around an half elf. Nah...He's got that same obsession when he tried to get Rem. He got that Main character complex where he feels everything important event is related to him and has the duty to protect all cute girls around him. That is why the disdain everyone gives for being weak and useless is hurting him a lot. |
RileyReid said: Bruh why is the KKK there Subaru's white knighting makes me wanna facepalm till my hand phase through my skull and touch the back of my chair Reminds me of this I Lol'd way too hard to those posts. |
| People arguing about Subaru being cringey are themselves the most cringy of all. block1 said: NOW MY CHILDREN, WE SUFFER! You have created an image in my mind in which Takano says exactly this. |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
| Damn this episode left me speechless :X |
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| ah man thought Subaru would take the time to reflect on himself a bit guy is to far gone right now ,hell the death of the villagers didn't even click with him for a while his mind is so fixated on one thing and one thing only. crazy cultist dudes were kinda creepy how they just showed up paid some respect and vanished. |
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