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Darklight0303 said: His argument doesn't hold when the same kabane doesn't exhibit these so called inconsistencies. There are Kabane that will be fast, Kabane that are slow and Advanced Kabane or leveled up Kabane as mister Suzuki said in the preview of episode 4, like the Wazatori. So. He is definitely nitpicking from a starting point meant to drag the show down. Just like the rest of his lovely group. I think it has shown, but correct me if I'm wrong/they aren't the same kabane, since I'm not 100% sure. When they were leaving the station, the kabane were all rushing towards the train and I mean like all running (also somehow plastering themselves on the window walls of the station?). Then later, as the train begins to depart (when Ikoma is fighting them off alone) they're just kind of standing around him, grogging around slowly or just swaying around, except for the few that start attacking him. (This is episode 2 btw) So I don't think the people who are saying they aren't consistent/humans are different therefore kabane as well are just nitpicking because they hate the show. And as I said before a show doesn't have to be perfect to be good, but it doesn't mean there aren't flaws that have to be ignored. |
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| Lazy to read and it was probably said in the previous episodes topics, so many fodder annoying characters talking. I understand that they are scared, but when they were saved multiple times with the understanding of being completely useless, they tossed them away. Well now they are dead and the rest seems like are at least a bit smart. As for episode, the animation when they were fighting on the train was great. The outcome of the fight with wazatori was somewhat anticlimatic, it could've been a couple exchanged hits, instead of his great entry and the instant win. |
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Lulencia said: Darklight0303 said: His argument doesn't hold when the same kabane doesn't exhibit these so called inconsistencies. There are Kabane that will be fast, Kabane that are slow and Advanced Kabane or leveled up Kabane as mister Suzuki said in the preview of episode 4, like the Wazatori. So. He is definitely nitpicking from a starting point meant to drag the show down. Just like the rest of his lovely group. I think it has shown, but correct me if I'm wrong/they aren't the same kabane, since I'm not 100% sure. When they were leaving the station, the kabane were all rushing towards the train and I mean like all running (also somehow plastering themselves on the window walls of the station?). Then later, as the train begins to depart (when Ikoma is fighting them off alone) they're just kind of standing around him, grogging around slowly or just swaying around, except for the few that start attacking him. (This is episode 2 btw) So I don't think the people who are saying they aren't consistent/humans are different therefore kabane as well are just nitpicking because they hate the show. And as I said before a show doesn't have to be perfect to be good, but it doesn't mean there aren't flaws that have to be ignored. Those were not the same Kabane. The station was a good ways away from the Gate to the drawbridge. The ones that ran, immediately attached themselves to the train or threw themselves at it to detonate against the train to damage the hull. The Shamblers came AFTER those and that's what Ikoma was fighting. |
Lulencia said: I won't attack you, I'll just try to answer your questions. :)When people were offering blood, on the area where he was stabbed, why was it bandaged on top of his clothes? And why are they making little children clean up blood ahaha Before I get attacked on this, I'm just saying I found these things funny, not nitpicking the show ad saying it's bad because of it Kurusu was bandaged there in a rush right after he was stabbed. It seems to be enough for him, so no reason to change it so soon. I don't know if they're "making" the children clean or if the children just wanted to help, but anyway many of the adults are talking at the front of the train (in the part were they offer blood) or doing more difficult tasks such as repairing the train, carrying heavy materials, etc. Ikoma and at least a couple adults are clearly shown cleaning as well. |
Darklight0303 said: Those were not the same Kabane. The station was a good ways away from the Gate to the drawbridge. The ones that ran, immediately attached themselves to the train or threw themselves at it to detonate against the train to damage the hull. The Shamblers came AFTER those and that's what Ikoma was fighting. Hmm yeah I agree maybe they're not the same as the ones running down the hill after looking at it again, however at the drawbridge you can see lots of kabane RUNNING in (jumping onto the train and making a hole in the water tank as well). These are undeniably the same kabane as the ones I mentioned before, who were around Ikoma, imo, so I'm still a bit skeptical > o > @Phoebe3315 ooo that makes sense, I can certainly see those as possibilities, thanks :D Poor kids though, to live in a time where they have to clean up blood :c It was just funny to me that they bandaged him on his clothes haha |
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| Lol this show makes me realize I'm starting to get too outgrow watching anime. normally i can completely ignore most anime's utter disregard for the laws of physics but for some reason while watching these guys break dance on top of a moving train i could stop questioning the lack of sense it made. |
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| Ooh yes that was good. The soundtrack was also spot on good. Yessss. |
| Action was great this episode, loved the sequence of when Mumei and Ikoma were fighting on the top of the train. Also Kurusu vs Wazatori. Also that scene with Ayame offering her blood in the contract was nice. |
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Lulencia said: Darklight0303 said: His argument doesn't hold when the same kabane doesn't exhibit these so called inconsistencies. There are Kabane that will be fast, Kabane that are slow and Advanced Kabane or leveled up Kabane as mister Suzuki said in the preview of episode 4, like the Wazatori. So. He is definitely nitpicking from a starting point meant to drag the show down. Just like the rest of his lovely group. I think it has shown, but correct me if I'm wrong/they aren't the same kabane, since I'm not 100% sure. When they were leaving the station, the kabane were all rushing towards the train and I mean like all running (also somehow plastering themselves on the window walls of the station?). Then later, as the train begins to depart (when Ikoma is fighting them off alone) they're just kind of standing around him, grogging around slowly or just swaying around, except for the few that start attacking him. (This is episode 2 btw) So I don't think the people who are saying they aren't consistent/humans are different therefore kabane as well are just nitpicking because they hate the show. And as I said before a show doesn't have to be perfect to be good, but it doesn't mean there aren't flaws that have to be ignored. Don't invest too much into this guy. He has a biases towards this show and people that will cause him to justify any and everything in the story and label any opposition as nitpicking and trolling. You honestly don't get this much critical comments about an anime if something isn't awry. I enjoy the show quite a bit but it's plot holes and inconsistency is evident. |
Good news is that Through Your blood the full version was bundled with The ED so you can enjoy the full 4 mins track for that scene on top of train in its complete glory before the 18th when the full OST comes out. |
| I have a proposition Villagers are just ignorant They didn't saw Ikoma pulling the lever, so they can't say he saved them. This includes the Bushi's. They are also ignorant about Kabaneri's in general I'd like to have visual confirmation but the show failed me on that since the beginning. |
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KoreaWS said: You can get away with this statement I have a proposition Villagers are just ignorant They didn't saw Ikoma pulling the lever, so they can't say he saved them. This includes the Bushi's. but not with this. Kurusu and the characters in the head of the train definitely know. |
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zal said: but not with this. Kurusu and the characters in the head of the train definitely know. Himesama already is on the Kabaneri's side, fat friend too (or to be specific, Ikoma's side) Kurusu then is a jerk, while almost anybody else on the cast is keeping quiet. I really hate how WIT handles the story. |
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ColdBreeze said: It's the wazatori doing the maintenance, learning from experience. ;)I think the only thing left to say is how the rails are still in a good condition after at least 20 years without maintaining. (take it as a joke..) |
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Cabron said: ColdBreeze said: It's the wazatori doing the maintenance, learning from experience. ;)I think the only thing left to say is how the rails are still in a good condition after at least 20 years without maintaining. (take it as a joke..) We are gonna have an entire train of Kabane, filled with Kabane Bushi's, Kabane peasants, Kabane princesses and Kabane elders. |
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KoreaWS said: Will we have a kabane that strangled himself because he was infected by a human and became an Humanari?Cabron said: It's the wazatori doing the maintenance, learning from experience. ;) We are gonna have an entire train of Kabane, filled with Kabane Bushi's, Kabane peasants, Kabane princesses and Kabane elders. |
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Animayham said: Don't invest too much into this guy. He has a biases towards this show and people that will cause him to justify any and everything in the story and label any opposition as nitpicking and trolling. You honestly don't get this much critical comments about an anime if something isn't awry. I enjoy the show quite a bit but it's plot holes and inconsistency is evident. Shame :( Yeah I enjoy the show too, but it irks me a bit seeing people who keep defending it as something flawless (same to those who think its absolute crap as well), sometimes in a very as-a-matter-of-factly kind of way ;o |
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| well, I really disliked this episode, and I don't have too much faith in this series anymore. I've lost my suspension of disbelief; you can just call everything that happens and there's no integrity in the setting or actions of the characters. the worst part was when they waited for the tunnels to pass, but then later on they all just strolled happily up on there even inside the tunnels. the kabane are so inconsistent, they slaughter every unimportant character handily, but turn into slouches when they are fighting against important characters. the way the explosive just destroyed the train platings was so random. the way the kabaneri act is so random and devised. there are obvious pitfalls when you make this kind of an action anime, but AoT avoided them or handled them well so I was expecting more. this show has been just a trite so far. |
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| Well obviously the people acting irrational and hostile towards the kabaneri was irritating but this type of setting where humanity is on the brink needs that kind of stuff, it's been a plot point since the first episode (Ikoma going on about people abandoning their humanity) and it makes sense that the people's feelings will not go away over the course of one episode. It's frustrating to watch but I guess it would be absurd NOT to have people fear them at first (plus, Tatsumi knew about Ikoma trying to bite Ayame so I guess that rumour spread everywhere) Anyway, great episode. The show goes for those "f#k yeah" moments and it succeeds as far as I'm concerned. |
LauraBirdieMay 7, 2016 1:40 PM
| Kurusu is the best character in this show so far. The only saving grace for this trainwreck is Kurusu. |
SlashingKurusuMay 7, 2016 1:45 PM
Tiemuuu said: They needed a large enough gap of time between tunnels to clear the kabane from the top of the train. It's easy moving along the top of the train while it's going through tunnels, but they didn't want to risk fighting kabane at the same time because their movements would be too limited.the worst part was when they waited for the tunnels to pass, but then later on they all just strolled happily up on there even inside the tunnels. the kabane are so inconsistent, they slaughter every unimportant character handily, but turn into slouches when they are fighting against important characters. the way the explosive just destroyed the train platings was so random. the way the kabaneri act is so random and devised. The unimportant characters aren't exactly very good fighters. They were doing a meh job fighting (because their equipment can't easily pierce kabane hearts) until the one bushi blew an opening in the wall of the train, allowing Kurusu to go in and start slashing them off. I wouldn't say the kabane were slouches only when fighting main characters. :l Some of them aren't very aggressive to begin with. I will agree with you that the way the explosives destroyed the train plating seems a bit random as it's not clear why it destroyed part of the ceiling, but I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. It might be due to the pipe that goes up to the ceiling behind the barrels. It seemed like there may have been two explosions, the first damaging the wall and the second damaging the ceiling. |
Phoebe3315May 7, 2016 3:59 PM
Lulencia said: zellami said: Who says it doesn't hurt? Hurts like hell probably, but it's Kurusu who we are talking here, not you and me as in the 'normal people', who aren't trained soldiers. The fact he didn't whine only compliments his character and lives to the fame samurai had, it didn't fucking mean he healed in 5 sec. It meant he'd fight to his afterlife if needed in order to protect Ayame. And Ikoma helped, where Kurusu could do as much. I can see and understand that, but at the same time I want to say even if he is a trained samurai, I don't think he should be able to run on the wall LOL I am pretty sure he "ran on the wall" before being stabbed. Please, watch the scene again. Also just some other things I found funny xd When people were offering blood, on the area where he was stabbed, why was it bandaged on top of his clothes? And why are they making little children clean up blood ahaha Before I get attacked on this, I'm just saying I found these things funny, not nitpicking the show ad saying it's bad because of it Edited spacing > o > ! I suppose it was a first aid bandage to stop the blood. The scene on the top of the train is after Ikoma defeated the Wazatori - that is, it happened in a short while. As for the kids, I think it was a bad idea to clean the blood barehanded, but it's not impossible if they had offered to help themselves. When Mumei clapped hands to give respect to the victims, the kids looked at each other with understanding, so the moment had more emotional value than the funeral farce at the supply station. I'm sorry, I indeed watch many seinen and shounen series, perhaps I am accustomed to ignore details like these. If you feel it is some sort of over-justification for the series, I just want to say that "I" specifically don't need it and you can ask other users for opinions as well. |
zellamiMay 7, 2016 4:48 PM
Itsalibitch11 said: i really wanted him to bite ayame. tbh that would be unexpectable . Without a machine to turn her into a kabaneri like him that would be a death sentence >_> |
Itsalibitch11 said: i really wanted him to bite ayame. tbh that would be unexpectable . I'm sure he will in later episodes. |
keragamming said: Itsalibitch11 said: i really wanted him to bite ayame. tbh that would be unexpectable . I'm sure he will in later episodes. Really? What gives you that impression? |
MysteriousBanana said: Darklight0303 said: Can you imagine how badly that would turn out?Without a machine to turn her into a kabaneri like him that would be a death sentence >_> "Wait, I can fix this, just get me some rope!" "What, why!?" "So I can strangle her!" Hahahaha don't forget the whole riveting metal plates to one half of the body depending on where he bit her. |
I was thinking like a vampire bite to drink her blood, not a deadly bite. But I just remember that she cut herself to give her blood to him. So yea, it ain't goint to happen. |
| awesome episode that kabane with 2 swords is badass, Kurusu too the battle scene between those 2 is awesome... ----- so... Kabaneri needs blood to work perfectly... is it only human blood or they can drink from the kabane as well?? if so, they should suck each other... I-i mean suck their blood... Heheheh- *get hit by Kotetsujyo* |
michaelh19May 7, 2016 8:27 PM
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| Damn I'm disappointed that bodyguard didn't die. |
zellami said: opiktea said: Don't think too hard bro, else it gona hurt your brain.. The fact that gunpowder explosion managed to blast a 20 cm thick steel plate but did not cause even a 3rd degree burn damage to a bunch of man around it was too dumb to be real... Non, non, non. I'd like to read what the guy has to say using his brain and you don't pretend you've been using yours :] Three barrels with gunpowder can blast the plate alright and you have totally missed how our young samurai was covered with 5-6 kabane with exceptional force and thick bodies. A bit more damage in the inside could have been more convincing, maybe, but I don't find it relevant - either way it would be other kabane or the Wazatori, who'd attack next. @MartinNik I doubt a pellet will even pass through a sack of cotton in the 10 m range (using a flintlock gun, but I've seen tests with pistols, not rifles). I am indeed thinking too much in to this... but... my counter-argument The industrial revolution is in the 1850s. By then the German needle guns existed which was a bolt-action allowing a much quicker reload. Smokeless powder have no correlation with how they are reloaded. Smokeless powder generally offer more power and well... no smoke. Nothing to do with how the weapon mechanism is operated. This is also around the time leading to the American Civil-war which had revolvers, Gatling guns(hand-cranked machineguns) and rifles. Yes rifles, The accuracy of rifling combined with higher-velocity of conical shaped bullets. There's also the nordenfelt gun and various other burst-firing or rapid firing weapon and quick-loading rifles. They also had much deadlier artillery with explosives in them at that era. Muskets and flintlock mechanism is the 1700s. The series takes place in the industrial revolution, these weapons are accurate and can reliably penetrate defenses. At this point, large stacks of hay no longer offered protection and thick mounds of dirt and layers of wood were required. And yes Japan had these weapons. US, Britain and other western powers supplied Japan with various arms ranging from artillery to guns during the Boshin war. Mostly guns though. Boshin war is during the Meiji restoration, around the time period or slightly after the peak of the industrial revolution. To put it simply, based on the fact that they are fairly modernized with steam locomotives, they should have already entered the Meiji era, so such weapons should exist. |
zcv45May 7, 2016 9:35 PM
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| Pretty cool episode, glad to see them finally accepted by the rest of the people. |
| Pretty pissed off Kurusu didn't die and he's probably gonna stay throughout the series. *sigh* The Kabanes are pretty inconsistent imo and they just come and go at random times for plot convenience. I have this weird feeling that Mumei might be Ikoma's sister. Yes, yes... I know he killed her with a suicide bag, but it'd be pretty cool if there was some way around that and they ended up as siblings. Highly unlikely though. Apart from that, it was a good episode. _____________ Oh, yeah. What the hell is Rokkon Shojo? lol ?_? |
ExhalantMay 7, 2016 10:37 PM
| I'm so fucking in love with the ED, can't wait for full version |
FramDzi said: Does anyone know the music that played during this episode? Which one? There's several that played |
ZickZack said: It's already out my friend. Go forth to googleI'm so fucking in love with the ED, can't wait for full version |
Darklight0303 said: ZickZack said: It's already out my friend. Go forth to googleI'm so fucking in love with the ED, can't wait for full version Really?? Thanks for the info m8 |
ZickZack said: Darklight0303 said: It's already out my friend. Go forth to google Really?? Thanks for the info m8 Even better. THrough my blood full version is bundled in the single too. |
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