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Apr 10, 2016 2:19 PM

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Fappa said:
I don't know why but the OP reminds me of A-ha - "Take on me"


Omg it does. lol
That opening scene had beautiful art to it and I loved the color palette they went with.

That ass attack though.


Trigger is behind it this so let's hope it will be good.
4/5


I would say he kicked his ass, but it's more like he kicked with his ass. Is he, by chance, an acquaintance of Butt Attack Punisher Girl? :)

I liked this more than I thought I would. The characters are likeable so far, except Not Esdeath. I don't like how she belittles the others.
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Apr 10, 2016 3:39 PM

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ArbiterofWhim said:
Not to be a downer, but this entire concept is stupid. Let's walk through this:
- oh you were fatally injured, but because we split the sensation of pain evenly you didn't die. Oh what's that? The physical damage would still be fatal even if you didn't feel it? U-um h-hey look disco balls and mascot characters!

- the pain is split evenly, but everybody reacts as though the pain is being intensified (everybody cringing hard af because one of them pinched her own cheek), which makes that earlier statement even more retarded

- this is literally the pain-equivalent of communism and it's actually more retard than plain old communism. If they implement this on a large or global scale, what if somebody trips and hurts themselves? What if somebody gets killed in a vehicular accident? Does it the pain get so diluted that nobody even feels anything (thus defeating the purpose of the connection)? Or does everybody feel it equally, which would be horrible and pointless?

I thought this sort of nonsense couldn't get worse than when Dimension W visually explained the extra dimension w and it was just the negative x-axis in the xyz plane. But it looks like I was wrong.


What did you think of Kill la kills "concept", and what did you expect after reading the synopsis of this show?
Apr 10, 2016 3:44 PM

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BlueBalls said:


What did you think of Kill la kills "concept", and what did you expect after reading the synopsis of this show?


I thought Kill la Kill's concept was stupid, but it was clear that it was never meant to be taken seriously from the start. I had extremely low expectations for this show just from the synopsis/studio, but I figured I'd give it a try. Maybe they would be able to once again take a stupid-sounding concept and make it fun/enjoyable. But it's already painfully obvious that's not what they're doing with this one.
Apr 10, 2016 4:11 PM

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Good job on labeling everyone with a distinct personality trait, that way they are forever identified with this one trait and never have to further develop their characters and make them all-rounded.

I see you drew inspiration from After Earth: 'I'm emotionless because I feel no fear.' 'I'm a extremely boring and uninteresting character because I feel no pain.'

Why Trigger? And why did you team up with Mari Okada? Don't you see these two styles don't really mix and complement each other?
Apr 10, 2016 4:30 PM

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The OP's animation is smooth as fuck, liking it!
Art is and colors are good too, this anime's visual aspects don't disappoint!
Wut, fucking "Kacchon", that's the most dankest nickname of the season. Easily.
Ok we have a tsundere osananajimi who won't get "Kacchon", sad lyf.
Nice bag throw, stop KACCHON from getting bullied, IT'S TIME TO STOP.
"My perv radar totally went off" "Hey, my forehead's gonna split" ONLY THE WEAK LIVE AND THE STRONG DIE.
Some doping scenes.
The heroine Sonozaki is here, RIP osananajimi's feelings.
Yeah, literally kidnappings.
More doping.
If the pain is equally divided then they shouldn't have felt that much pain from that slap. I mean how strong could that slap be. Fuk it lel
The episode was overall fine, OP was good, ED was ok, animation was good, art was good, pacing was alright, so yeah a good introduction to the anime!
3.1/5
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Apr 10, 2016 4:49 PM

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Pretty damn interesting. Trigger is known for weirdness but this makes me wonder on how epic a show can be without the weirdness, if they went pure serious with just one anime, how good would it be?

OP and ED was nice but if anything required an epilepsy notice then it was this anime. Fuck that shit was trippy!.
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Apr 10, 2016 5:07 PM

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Wasn't that bad, will continue watching for now. I liked the ending theme; that's the only one I instantly liked so far for this season.
Apr 10, 2016 5:10 PM

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Great art and Hajime is so hot I could cry. Will continue.
Apr 10, 2016 5:55 PM
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I feel like the creators watched the pein arc from naruto and was like

'Hey that's a nice philosophy for a show"

few years later BOOM kiznaiver was born
Apr 10, 2016 6:21 PM
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i want to fuck sonozaki
Apr 10, 2016 6:27 PM

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Really excited to see the future episodes of this. Minute I saw the opening I fell in love with this show and all the characters. This, Re: Zero, and the AoT creator's anime are my favorites this season after ep 1.
Apr 10, 2016 6:48 PM
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As someone who saw the first two episodes at Animeboston 2016, You guys are in for a thrill! Episode 1 was pretty good, episode 2 is even better.
Apr 10, 2016 7:32 PM
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Ckaos_Inkarnate said:
Hmm...interesting, but will it follow through with decent explanations and plot development? This whole sharing wounds thing seems like a far-fetched idea to me. I have my doubts it will be done well. I hope I am wrong though.

Agreed.

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Apr 10, 2016 7:45 PM

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Cool start. I liked the art and the odd premise a lot. I am expecting a psychological/character driven anime with some trigger's stylish things. 4/5.
Apr 10, 2016 8:04 PM

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Awesome concept. Shared pain as the main plot device. Can't say I've seen that before. I don't know what's in store, but I'm pretty excited. From what I remember, this is an original, right? I think that just makes it all the better. Near impossible to spoil :).

I'm actually liking the ED more than the OP. Prefer the instruments over electronics.
Apr 10, 2016 9:29 PM

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Oh well shared pain. Interesting concept. I'm curious to see how this'll go.
People were praising OP but for me it was not that good.
Sakamoto-kun's OP is better.
3/5
Apr 10, 2016 9:37 PM

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Literally so many things were thrown at me with this Kizuna project-Kiznaiver-modern deadly sins-thing and that woman
(going to take me awhile to learn the many names...lol) and her explanation literally flew right over my head.

Guess I'm going to have to watch that again cause I processed maybe 20% of everything that happened.

Also, main character's aight. Usually these apathetic main characters have no character (the irony...) and that's literally him right now. There were hints of potential character development where he will learn to "find himself" which I guess gives him hope...
EarlCielApr 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Apr 10, 2016 11:15 PM

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I didn't actually enjoy the OP that much, if anything I liked the ED more.

Worried that the show will be based around some teenage melodrama, but I'll stay tuned for a few more episodes and see how it goes.
Apr 11, 2016 12:03 AM

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Why ? Why is this again ? Why do I pick the wrong ships ?
Apr 11, 2016 12:27 AM

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Fappa said:
I don't know why but the OP reminds me of A-ha - "Take on me"


I knew it reminded me of something!
Apr 11, 2016 12:34 AM

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Seems like a pretty interesting anime so far, the music and art style are pretty nice.

So they all share pain, I wonder what would happen if one of the guys got kicked between the legs. I wonder if the girls would still feel the pain.
Apr 11, 2016 1:03 AM

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I think Trigger's budgets are getting higher.

That OP was great.

Characters are kinda lame so far.
Apr 11, 2016 1:22 AM

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in first mins. of the show i saw MC didn't fell any pain and now on last mins. he's felling the pain why oh why?
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Apr 11, 2016 3:50 AM

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WTF .

1st push downed its ok . no body see coming
2nd stun gun?
is he idiot or ..?
i believe he could see her gonna do something
hit her in self defense dude

big WTF
Apr 11, 2016 4:22 AM

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I'd rather get a 2nd season to INOU Battle than Kizunashitver.
Or maybe a Gurren Lagann sequel but it might turn into Spiral Rebellion so nope.
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Apr 11, 2016 4:28 AM

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One of the best starts of the season but still flawed. Before anything else, big ups to the intro, lots of style and a unique atmospheric song.

Love the visuals as usual from Trigger, love the fact that most of the character designs will probably never be confused for another series. I like the plot mechanic of shared pain, but the 'why' is really vague and though I'm sure it'll be explained later, it makes the whole thing come off as really contrived.

Also I'm glad they took the time to give Tenga more personality beyond 'the perv dude', but I'm afraid Nico might end up pretty one-note. Other characters have a lot of promise and there's plenty of time to develop their relationships to one another.

Unfortunately, the main character is pretty weak which is starting to feel normal these days. However, he's still better than an every-man character like we would typically see.
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Apr 11, 2016 5:00 AM
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Interesting plot. I completely missed the explanation though, I hope they explain it better later 4/5
Apr 11, 2016 5:18 AM

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Pretty vague first ep - i hope there is some action in later eps - Trigger are so good at it
Apr 11, 2016 5:58 AM

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A very intriguing start. The artstyle for Kiznaiver is really colourful and really nicely designed too.

There was alot of explaining about the Kizuna Project and how the 6 characters have all been linked to share their pain with each other. Even though the explanation was good, I think I'll understand it better as the show goes on when the plot starts to get into it's stride.

Tenga's Ass attack was proper epic though! =D

Like with most shows nowadays, certain users like to cry out their disgust about shows that they hugely dislike after just one episode....really? At least give the show a few episodes to get going before calling it garbage.
If the whole concept doesn't appeal to you, then that's fine. But sometimes going OOT with the criticism after the first episode, without giving a decent explanations as to why, does look desperate to be honest.
Apr 11, 2016 7:25 AM

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Sonozaki reminds me a bit of Senjougahara lol
Apr 11, 2016 8:19 AM

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The plot is vague, but that does not mean it has to have to be a bullshit story, through the characters and graphics quality, the first are not so original, they need to be run in Instead drawings and animations, are very good, the same can be said for the sets. The catchy opening, a little less than the ending.
Apr 11, 2016 9:20 AM

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Forgot that it was Trigger who animated this halfway through. The OP is pretty good definitely won't be skipping it. So world peace through sharing pain, I wanna where this goes.
Apr 11, 2016 10:59 AM

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ArbiterofWhim said:
Not to be a downer, but this entire concept is stupid. Let's walk through this:
- oh you were fatally injured, but because we split the sensation of pain evenly you didn't die. Oh what's that? The physical damage would still be fatal even if you didn't feel it? U-um h-hey look disco balls and mascot characters!

- the pain is split evenly, but everybody reacts as though the pain is being intensified (everybody cringing hard af because one of them pinched her own cheek), which makes that earlier statement even more retarded

- this is literally the pain-equivalent of communism and it's actually more retard than plain old communism. If they implement this on a large or global scale, what if somebody trips and hurts themselves? What if somebody gets killed in a vehicular accident? Does it the pain get so diluted that nobody even feels anything (thus defeating the purpose of the connection)? Or does everybody feel it equally, which would be horrible and pointless?

I thought this sort of nonsense couldn't get worse than when Dimension W visually explained the extra dimension w and it was just the negative x-axis in the xyz plane. But it looks like I was wrong.


i think the implication is that the injury is also split evenly, not just the pain. which is why i don't understand the slapping/pinching part either. just the characters being overdramatic to hammer the point home?

as for future implementation i suppose maybe they still intend to only connect small groups of opposing personalities, even if its on a global scale? or something ?
idfk.
the Kizuna system is still an experiment, maybe the show is self-aware enough and is gonna prove over time that the concept doesn't work?

it's all very vague as of now. i'm mostly just curious what the plot's even gonna be.

show looks pretty tho, i can't deny that.
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Apr 11, 2016 12:24 PM

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in ep 0 they said there is some huge plot twist behind the blue haired chicks intentions or something

really cant say where will this story lead to but im ether gonna love it or meh it
Apr 11, 2016 1:25 PM

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Well, I was pretty bored while watching the episode...
The animation was ok, very sharp but exaggerated.
I didn't like the MC at all, I don't find him to be interesting or even normal, too empty.
Again with that cliché that A lot of Pain = Instant white hair.

The characters are very exaggerated in their personalities, I didn't like any of them.

They wanted to explain how all this pain system worked but it doesn't make any sense how a chip can do that.
I do assume they will explain this further. But yeah, sure, let's use some random teenagers, kidnap them
and install in them against their will some pain tech of questionable ethics.

Hey, that blue shinny girl in the beginning talks like Kayo from Boku Dake g Inai Machi, well, at least it gave me that vibe.

From all my choices from this season, this series was the most doubtful for me.
I was not mistaken, I may drop this one, but I'll give it more episodes to see how things develop.

PD: I didn't like the OP or the ED. The ED was better tho. The OP had smooth AF animations which is good and pretty, but I got bored fast because of the song and the video being pointless.

ArbiterofWhim said:
Not to be a downer, but this entire concept is stupid. Let's walk through this:
- oh you were fatally injured, but because we split the sensation of pain evenly you didn't die. Oh what's that? The physical damage would still be fatal even if you didn't feel it? U-um h-hey look disco balls and mascot characters!

- the pain is split evenly, but everybody reacts as though the pain is being intensified (everybody cringing hard af because one of them pinched her own cheek), which makes that earlier statement even more retarded

- [/b]this is literally the pain-equivalent of communism and it's actually more retard than plain old communism[/b]. If they implement this on a large or global scale, what if somebody trips and hurts themselves? What if somebody gets killed in a vehicular accident? Does it the pain get so diluted that nobody even feels anything (thus defeating the purpose of the connection)? Or does everybody feel it equally, which would be horrible and pointless?

I thought this sort of nonsense couldn't get worse than when Dimension W visually explained the extra dimension w and it was just the negative x-axis in the xyz plane. But it looks like I was wrong.


OMG THANK YOU. You did notice!

Yeah, if you want to base this plot in SCIENCE then use the goddamn SCIENCE. This makes no sense nor scientifically or ethically, morally, logically, anythinglly...
A magic based logic would make even more sense than this.
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Apr 11, 2016 1:28 PM

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7thFonon said:
juicykitten95 said:
in ep 0 they said there is some huge plot twist behind the blue haired chicks intentions or something

really cant say where will this story lead to but im ether gonna love it or meh it
wait there's an episode 0? D:

y it was an ep where voice actors talked about the show
Apr 11, 2016 2:44 PM
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The Directing/Storyboarding/Art are superb, too bad Okada is writing this.
Apr 11, 2016 4:12 PM

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7thFonon said:

Not sure how you can't like Tenga or Niko though. They seem like fun / interesting characters.

And you don't need science to match the exact laws of the real world in anime. People act like they need to bust out their calculators every time they wanna watch some anime.


Well, I'm still giving the series a chance. I can change my opinion.

And yeah, I do not expect 100% legit and fair science but I just expect some degree of logic. That's how I am, I like to analyze everything I watch jaja. But that surely will not be a point to drop an anime, or a story (unless they take it to the "the audience is retard and they don't care" level)
Apr 11, 2016 4:14 PM

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Interesting premise, but Trigger's going to fuck this up, I can feel it
Apr 11, 2016 6:10 PM

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I need to watch it again because just the OP was full of drugs the anime itself looked a drug parade,JK, i think this is the first anime where the MC is a male kuudere,it was nice but it will have to do much more to surpass the others.


Apr 11, 2016 6:45 PM
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The first episode was rubbish for me. I'm reluctant to continue this, but I might as well watch the second episode. Maybe it'll shape itself into something meaningful then.

Edit: someone else mentioned this - I agree that the 'Hot-headed Thug' will probably have multiple moments of "HEEUH" and other typical archetype behaviors. So many anime can't seem to escape writing the same few characters over and over...
Apr 11, 2016 8:01 PM
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MetalMessiah said:
The first episode was rubbish for me. I'm reluctant to continue this, but I might as well watch the second episode. Maybe it'll shape itself into something meaningful then.

Edit: someone else mentioned this - I agree that the 'Hot-headed Thug' will probably have multiple moments of "HEEUH" and other typical archetype behaviors. So many anime can't seem to escape writing the same few characters over and over...

I will look forward to your commentary.
Apr 11, 2016 8:03 PM

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7thFonon said:

And you don't need science to match the exact laws of the real world in anime. People act like they need to bust out their calculators every time they wanna watch some anime.


It's not about science, it's about suspension of disbelief. If a show's basic logic is so jarringly stupid that it takes you out of the experience, then that's a problem.
Apr 11, 2016 8:19 PM

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The first ep was really meh for me. :/ meh meh meh :////
But I'm still interested in what would happen next.
On to ep 2!

Apr 11, 2016 8:29 PM

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As the producer said, the OP was made for this anime and it's very good.
I'm very impressed by this anime, can't wait to see more details about Kiznaiver program.
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Apr 11, 2016 10:04 PM
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Not bad, but I feel some AnoHana vibes — just with more EDGE. Yeah I know it's the same writer, that's why I'm not hopeful. Oh well, wait and see, I guess.
Apr 12, 2016 2:26 AM

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7thFonon said:
AnoHana isn't my kind of anime, so I won't say much about it. But why are some people saying this writer is so bad? She did make Toradora (unless people think that's bad too, then perhaps it's just a really big difference in opinion).


Everybody hates Mari Okada. Dunno why, never seen her work except BRS TV and it was good.
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Apr 12, 2016 4:45 AM

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Kiznaiver is a dumb name but that's the title of this series so there's nothing we can do about it.

The beginning was just like most other shounen/fantasy/science-fiction Anime/manga. There's a weak-ass shounen getting his ass beat, a concerned childhood friend/classmate who's telling him to stand up for himself, a mysterious girl who appears out of nowhere and tells said shounen and in this case, group of friends of their destiny by babbling on and on and on about sharing pain being "Kiznaivers."

Character designs are forgettable other than the MC. Stereotypical cast: airhead bitch, smart/snotty bitch, playboy douche, lackadaisical teacher who won't give two fucks, concerned classmate who is more than likely in love with the MC and obscure other-worldly character who uses terms that she'll spend half of the series explaining using made-up jargons.

Everyone's amped up over the OP which I thought was meh. I have no expectations for this series but I'll see if it gets better. I am hoping for blood, gore and death.
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And it seems we've got another promising anime original on our hands, the animation is nice, seriously fun to look at.
The music's cool too, I oughta search up the thing that was played in the hospital.
The characters and the story don't make too much sense to me, but it's still the first episode after all. Or actually the MC doesn't make much sense to me. :p
Well then, 7/10 for now, I'll be REALLY looking forward to this anime, btw is that Hinazuki girl the 7th sin? She didn't mention it, and I don't like her so I would like to know what she calls herself.
Apr 12, 2016 6:03 AM
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Awesome OP style, song sooo familiar.
Dark stuff locked in his heart... so edgy.
Very distinct characters...Udon...nice analogy.
Theory mystery girl, girl in dream. Cool osts, gives really suspenseful atmosphere.
Gomorin sequence really weird.
Red head super tsun it's ridiculous.
Hajime seem cool.
Also saw ep0. Uh one person's missing?
Interesting premise, experimental communism of pain to achieve a new form of fascism. Lol some extreme trigger.
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