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| about time someone died and another long useless montage and they went Eva final episode with those handdrawn shots they clearly don't have enough budget |
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| Well, all sorts of the conversation in this episode hinted at something bad possibly happening to Manato, which ultimately happened to be his death. Anyway, it's interesting to know that Yume (favourite character) is actually better at daggers than bows which I think it's a good thing allowing her the flexibility to fight close range as well as far away. On the other hand, it's funny to see that Ranta is currently the least useful in the party in my opinion despite starting out as one of the stronger ones :P, but I'm betting that those vices he collect would be of some use in the future. The goblins though in this episode definitely showed them who's boss. Giant ones, a crossbow user, etc ganging on them showed their weakness in reacting to an ambush of multiple enemies. Back to Manato's death, it feels so surreal that he actually died, especially so early and with him being the leader. He brought out his intelligence to make the party stronger since day 1 with incredible progress. The head priest or whatever is definitely right for acknowledging his talents. Manato's death is a big blow for the party and no one is even close to reaching his level of intelligence for now. Possible leaders for the party now, at least the ones that are more emotionally stable is Mogzo and Yume, but they're nowhere near Manato's level. I do hope that the party stay strong and be together or maybe recruit a new member but don't disband :( It's also nice that we get to see a glimpse of what I assume are the other "humans from earth" come to pay their respects to Manato. |
SaiborgFeb 1, 2016 9:03 AM
Olem said: Yea, people since before the series started kept opening their big fucking mouths.Hate the people last episode who spoiled it with their "subtle" comments. But damn, saw it coming since Minato kept raising the death flags for himself over and over. Feels struck hard. |
FlamingYu said: You seriously expect an LN adaptation to get rid of its resident T&A service providers for the sake of gender equality? Don't get me wrong I like Grimgar well enough, but that'd just be giving the show too much credit.Goody, someone finally kick the bucket and it had to be the most useful guy. Next to game over better be a girl now. Screw this series if all females are protected by plot armor. |
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Why he did not look back before run?? omfg, this death was stupid. ...however, this was the best episode so far, imo. |
_Ayu_Feb 1, 2016 10:20 AM
Aria said: Why he did not look back before run?? omfg, this death was stupid. ...however, this was the best episode so far, imo. Probably inexperience. Their focus for almost the entirety of the show has been smaller goblins, that mostly use swords/daggers. They haven't had to flee from enemies shooting arrows at them and probably aren't aware of what kind of range those crossbows have. Or could just be panic. Running from a fight can make you do things in a dumb manner. |
I'm sad for Manato, but i have been sure 100% of his death for 1st episode :'( R.I.P. Manato :( P.s. His death is stupid so much °L° |
xAcceleratorFeb 1, 2016 10:52 AM
| GREAT series. the only capable guy dies :D I mean, don't get me wrong, I like this show. It's pretty original, at least for now. I hope for more. |
| Am liking this show way more than expected. Love how death comes just around the corner and no one is granted plot armor immunity yet. Minato's death was quick, but was less emotional for the rest of us than for their team, mostly because we hardly got to know him at all. Kind of feels like he's a wasted character though, sort of like the girl who died really early in SAO. Can't seem to find all that much sympathy for him other than the fact that their team is quite screwed without a healer. The scattering of his cremated ashes into the wind was done quite nicely, as was the portrayal of their various emotions when Minato died. Looking forward to the new character that joins, but seriously, way too many spoilers in the forums here. |
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| Are they low on funds, because there’re so many static frames and an insert song, and two postcard ending sequences. Also It starts to fall apart a bit in the usual LN-adaptations way – relying on characters, but killing them with tropes and overdramatization. The example of the first being Shiharu. Cuz I haven’t met people this bad with social anxiety, especially when the situation calls for dealing with your own shit so badly. I find her annoying, because she doesn’t have much going for her aside from moe and is too static for animation. The example of the second being Manato’s death. On the one hand I can sympathize with acting stupid in the initial moments, on the other, I can’t help but think that they’ve been killing for some time now to get the idea. Everybody talking stuff at the shrine priest was lame. But, well, they’re a bunch of losers, since they managed to lose a healer and a group leader at that, lol. They were stupid. It’s not often I say this about fictional characters, but they stayed in one place for long, despite being at the bottom of the food chain and knowing their enemies are sentient and have a society. Also Manato is a magical healer, and he managed to let himself die, ffs. *sigh* It’s a pity that he is the one who was lost first, he was likeable and there were hints on backstory. Well, I guess, new characters next week. And btw – was Ranta’s demon shown at all? |
deadoptimistFeb 1, 2016 1:19 PM
| This episode was fucking amazing and so relatable to me as I've seen many good characters die in D&D. A majority of characters die at level 1 too. This show went from being your above average but standard fantasy show to a good fantasy show as adventuring is fucking dangerous and people will die- it's inevitable. It was great that it was the party leader too as now haruhiro will have to step up to the plate. Also cool how the MC is a thief instead of a fighter like MCs usually are. But yeah it was both pretty sad but also exhilarating to know this show has balls and actually understands how western fantasy is meant to be unlike most anime shows in fantasy settings. Also manato had far more development than any character who died in SAO did (at least in the actual game of SAO). |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| was a good watch, i still like it, but i'm dropping, I did see the death flag from episode 1 but i won't watch an anime without a character to like, if somebody had to die we all know who should have, too bad. |
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| everybody says death flags, i did not see any death flags on him, can someone PM me with timestamps of the so called death flags? |
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| I mean I kept hoping that somebody would die but I didn't think the show had the balls. It was only obviously when he literally said that he was going to die although it did a good job at making me think that the MC would die for a second. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Shit, I'm scared of Mary's Character Visual... I think they altered it too much... Based on the coming episode... T_T |
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I came here just to discuss of this. IM ONLY WATCHING THIS SHET OF ANIME FOR YUME .___. Didnt feel anything for Manato's death since they shown his deathflag in the previous ep. that episode was just for Yume~ |
| This episode... RIP Manato. The death flags. It happened so quickly. They really done the ending of the episode really well, very emotional. Can't wait to see how this is going to affect the rest of the group, in the upcoming episodes. |
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PantsOnHead said: Cejara said: Also for people complaining about them killing Goblins alot: This is a realistic aspect of the show. Its not like Kirito where he just starts merking everything with his OP skills. These people had no fighting skills whatsoever. Think of it this way, if you were put in this world with 0 knowledge or training you would be stuck killing Goblins just to barely survive day by day. Heck most people on here would probably die by a goblin. This is not an action anime, it heavily relies on a realistic tone so things will show what would happen if your or a friend had to go through this situation (if you think of it this way). This is exactly what you would be doing with 0 basic skills to survive in this unknown world. The way they Kill goblins is the least realistic aspect of the show. Being unable to hit an enemy from behind unless your job is a thief is as far removed from reality as you can get. If this was truely a show about realistic fantasy, then the combat wouldn't be constrained to video game tropes. Also, Kirito started out by killing boars. There was a timeskip after that. Regardless, it was made clear to the viewer that SAO's combat wasn't supposed to be realistic. Its a game, after all. Even the title of the series itself screams "video game". The same cannot be said of "Grimgar of Fanservice and Edge". I haven't watched SAO and I'm not planning to watch it, but Grimgar is more D&D than a MMO. D&D level 1-2-3 parties are campaigns are exactly like this. Being poor and skilless, can hardly kill goblins, and die because you're so weak. I'm more concerned by the pace of this show because it will only be 12 episodes. |
| Great episode. Manato's death was predictable (shown by his attitude/behaviour/personality), but it happened too soon. Very enjoyable and compelling. His death had an impact on me, because he was a likeable character (I would have been happy if Ranta died). The insert song was a nice conclusion, but the songs are used too often. |
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Fappa said: - Manato was way too cautious. He basically healed every single wound even if it was just a scratch and hurt a little bit which caused him to run out of stamina really fast. From an anime only viewer perspective, we do not know if magic use drains stamina or mana points - Also did you realize that their priest, their healer, was constantly at the front lines basically acting like a tank? The one class that was supposed to be the farthest away from battle was the focus of the battle instead. This was bound to fail sooner or later but they couldn’t help it. I would have to disagree, at least in classic D&D clerics are frontline fighters, just becuase you do not use a blad does not mean his metal cudgel strikes are not deasly. So what were then the mistakes? You NEVER get comfy in the middle of a warzone (unless you are OP or will get resurrected by your allies ala Dokuro-chan), they should have never stopped to eat there, if they were hungry either the learn to endure or return to the town, even if they use a couple of hours walking there and returning. If for whatever reason they had to eat, do it in silence for crying out loud (and have someone looking around), the goblins no doubt heard their voices and had time to assemble a killing party. Manato was walking arounf like if he was in the middle of a safe zone, instead ow beeing wary everytime he reached a crossroad, just because there were no enemies there five minutes ago does not mean there wil be none now. |
| Damn this archer girl had me distracted all the time XD. Kinda came unexpected for me but I tbh didn't feel anything since I can't relate with the characters alot. Still decent episode. |
Fappa said: To clear some things up. What happened in this episode introduced us to a dark side which will control this story. Death is an omnipotent thing that can happen anytime to anyone, that’s what this tries you to teach. For the first time they’ve faced the consequences of their actions in the most direct way, death. Some people maybe think now „I can’t feel bad for his death when I barely knew him as a character“ and yes that’s somewhat the point. Neither we or them really knew Manato as a person. We as the viewer and them as a team were on the way to get to know each other more but with a finger snap he’s gone like that, forever. It’s supposed to show us and them how fast a human being can die in the blink of an eye and because of a single mistake. And we see how hard his death hits them emotionally. Each character reacts individually to this and will develop into a different direction. This is the first of many traumatizing things they will have to suffer. First the act of killing but now they face an even more traumatizing experience. The death of a human being that they have known and spent every single day with. It’s actually interesting to see how every single one of them has a different facial expression and gestures, shows you how those basic characters slowly develop into actual complex characters. So what mistake did they actually do that cost Manato his life? Both Manato and the others made mistakes over and over again without knowing it. - Manato was way too cautious. He basically healed every single wound even if it was just a scratch and hurt a little bit which caused him to run out of stamina really fast. You can’t blame him he was scarred about the others’ well being and maybe also couldn’t estimate the seriousness of the wound. So in the end it all came down to inexperience and lack of communication. - Also did you realize that their priest, their healer, was constantly at the front lines basically acting like a tank? The one class that was supposed to be the farthest away from battle was the focus of the battle instead. This was bound to fail sooner or later but they couldn’t help it. Now they are deprived of their healer, their leader and most of all their voice of reason. If you think about it Manato did a lot of things therefore his loss is especially hard for them. Manato supervised their finances, he gathered information about good hunting grounds, he planned what they would do each day, he made the strategies and made the calls for certain actions in combat and most of all he was the person that brought them together and kept them together. -For Shihoru he was the person to see her weak personality and comfort her. They emphasized on that with the scene at the start -For Yume he was the most caring person who looked out for others, especially Shihoru. -For Haruhiro he was the closes to a friend in this world. -For Ranta, well I guess he was the one keeping him at a leash. -For Mogzo he was another person with a rather calm personality with whom he could be at ease. Now all that is gone and you see how hard it hits them. Right now they don’t have a perspective and not the will to go on. Soon enough they will have to move on and they have to ask themselves… Where do we find ourselves another healer? Who will be the leader from now on? How do they have to change in battle, where can they improve and let something like that not happen again? These are some of the things that we will have to see in the upcoming episodes. I simply love the ending sequence where they show how they say their goodbyes to Manato by scattering his cremated remains with the wind. As a LN reader I'm satisfied. This was some really good analysis. There were some thing that even I missed out on. I can see where he would make the mistake of healing every scratch though. I doubt that they have modern medicine in that world, so things like infections would be a lot more serious than it would in our world. I hate to say it though, but I'm not surprised that he died. It just felt too...obvious to me. He just felt too perfect compared to everyone else. Basically, his own personality was a bit of a death flag for me. I am curious to find out about his past though. Why is it that he believed that he was the type of person that no one really treated kindly? I hope that at least part of that question is covered in this. |
| The fact people are giving this series AOTS is hilarious. |
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| R.I.P Manato. you will be missed, even though we did not know you well, you were taken from this world to soon. I did not think one of the group would die so soon into the series, real buzz kill. |
| Even though Manato's death was incoming from miles away, it was still pretty decent. Very melodramatic though but I guess that's kind of the point they're getting across- that this can happen suddenly and without emotional build-up. Looking forward to seeing if anybody else dies (probably the big guy). Really though, they need to stop with the insert songs. They're killing the show. The last 4 minutes of the episode was literally just them saving budget. |
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| @Fappa Great post on the first page! Can't believe I'm saying this, but I have to thank Sword Art Online. SAO was one of the first big MMORPG, "You're in the game", kids transported to fantasy world, what ever you want to call it-type anime; and thanks to that, we've been getting more of these shows. I was never much of a fan of SAO, but I feel like Grimgar is the high point. It's just a shame Grimgar probably won't achieve SAO's popularity, when it clearly deserves it more. This is an impeccably directed show with excellent pacing, gorgeous art and backgrounds, and a nice cast of characters. We weren't deeply connected to Manato, but he was a nice, genuine guy, and a responsible leader. You knew how much the other characters cared for him, and the show has done an excellent job of showing that. In this episode especially, they showed how much of an impact Manato's death had on all the characters. I don't know about other people here, but because of that, his death had an effect on me. It was really well-done. Besides ERASES and the Rakugo anime, this is honestly my favorite anime of the season. I hope it keeps it up! Grimgar's only flaw, IMO, has to do with its female characters. I like Yume a lot, but I just wish the female characters were a little stronger. Other than that, I'm enjoying this show immensely. Jakerams said: Am I the only one who loves this absolutely incredibly slow pacing? It is something I'm really loving about this series it's great now I wish it was much longer than 12 episodes. Nope! One of the strong points of this show. |
| Really sad, but great episode! Wasn't expecting a death so soon, R.I.P. Manato. |
SoraSenpai said: The fact people are giving this series AOTS is hilarious. The fact that you joined an online forum discussion site, and cant stand people having their opinions is hilarious! :-D |
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| Damn what a episode :/ First of all, with every episode that i see, i admire even more the art of this anime, it's so gorgeous. I almost cried when Manato died :( But it was partially his fault, if he told them that he was hit by an arrow, he would probably manage to cure himself or even manage to walk to the city where he could be saved, but no... :( I wonder how they will survive without him, he was their leader. Even thought that this episode was sad, this anime never fails to deliver Yume's sexy poses :3 And i was happy to see Mary talking to someone in this episode, she is so adorably cute :3 Kinda sad that the first guy that she talked to and started liking, died on the same day... R.I.P Manato :( Strong picture |
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| The slow pacing of the earlier episodes makes a bit more sense now. They were obviously building up to it and trying to show how reliant they were on Manato. |
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| Well shit, that was sad. |
| This really could have been a well-done character death, but there were problems... -During the part where they were attacked by the big goblin and the blue goblin etc, the cutscenes had really jerky transitions. -Then way too much time lapsed for uncertainty between Manato being shot and the priest flat out saying hes already dead. It would have been more appropriate if they realized he was dead before getting in town. -And Haruhiko's dialogue was just bad. Anyway. Team discovers Manato's been wounded pretty bad; complete silence--no music; characters hopeless as to what to do; Manato says sorry before fainting. THAT part was really well-done for a death scene. But then they take him back into town and Im like "okay theyre drawing this out; that means he'll live." And then he turns out to be already dead and Im like "oh. okay. whatever, im not even sad anymore though.." |
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| I hope next one is shihoru. That girl is useless, she choose cc magic instead of damage as a mage. Only thing she can do is get scared and fall on her fast ass. |
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| Really good episode, I really enjoyed seeing them demonstrate and describe each of their new skills at the beginning. I felt like they did a good job in making you put your guard down as the beginning half was put with really enjoyable action and really showing how much better they have gotten. Then they have a nice moment all together and Manato talks about everyone's good trait on making their group strong together and then BAM! Shit hits the fan and I honestly can say I didn't expect Manato or anyone to die in this episode but I loved the way it showed every individual reaction and how each one showed their emotions to this happening. I can't wait to see the next episode to see how they will move on now without their leader, healer and pretty much the voice of reason in the group. Here is my full review on the episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBhA0_TUesI&feature=youtu.be |
| Probably the best episode yet, very powerful and emotional. Personally I wasn't too fazed by the loss of Manato, but I did feel for the group because it was very evident they relied on him as a leader. Things are moving forward, which is good. Very interested to see what they plan to do next. People have been spoiling that another girl comes that's the same class as Manato was., hopefully she's cute. Oh, and booty shots continue for Yume. Which I love. |
| This definitely is an episode you can go into detail for. There're a number of things that bothered me, but I liked it overall. Manato's death wasn't supposed to be that impactful I guess, but it's not like I didn't care at all - I liked him the most out of all the MC's, so him being dead is a minus for me. I guess he didn't tell what Haurhiro's strengths were so that the latter could raise the last deathflag with that "Oh well, I can ask him anytime". That's what happens when you lower your guard in enemy territory. Still, is there any reason why he learned a melee attack when he was a priest? Also, do we ever get to hear his backstory? Kinda wishing I'd flip through the LN right now. Really, though - I wish it wasn't Manato. 4/5 I wonder who will feed the poor animals now... |
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| What a failure he was as a healer and a person. First he was described as a healer and vanguard? The stupidity in this makes me think it's a translation error. If not then just dumb writing. Lets just make the most important person in the party with no armor at all the vanguard. What is the point of the heavy armored guy then? Second... How hard is it to say "No, I need to heal soon. I was hit."? It's not like his heals were ever shown to have taken a long time to use. Congrats you just killed yourself and left your party in a even worse condition in this unknown world. |
lanfire said: What a failure he was as a healer and a person. First he was described as a healer and vanguard? The stupidity in this makes me think it's a translation error. If not then just dumb writing. Lets just make the most important person in the party with no armor at all the vanguard. What is the point of the heavy armored guy then? Second... How hard is it to say "No, I need to heal soon. I was hit."? It's not like his heals were ever shown to have taken a long time to use. Congrats you just killed yourself and left your party in a even worse condition in this unknown world. It's actually his team's fault for his death. They relied too much on him, expected him to be a vanguard, and didn't understand that him healing them for every little thing (they got used to this in previous battles) would drain his stamina and leave him unable to heal life-threatening strikes when the time comes. Basically his team killed him because they put all the burden on him. I mean he was even the information gatherer for the team. They spread him too thin and this was the result of that. |
| To much "Wanky Feel" for me. Don't like this show. Looking up for what happens in upcoming episode. |
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nogitsunechaos said: As far as it actually not being a chore to watch.QWERTYFish25 said: Honestly the only thing I'm really taking seriously this season though GATE isn't far behind. you take gate seriously? |
| "Or so I thought." Boom. |
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| good game Manato. |
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