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headless_nick said: or maybe am thinking too much... but just wanted to find out reasons behind troupes short appearance and revealing their power at this specific point of story which was bugging me ... It's just fan pandering. In terms of raw power, no one revealed in the HxH universe so far can match the Chimera King. He's pretty much God-tier. Maybe Gon who has potential in the future but not now. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
headless_nick said: the thing that struck me was the purpose of showing phantom troupe abilities particularly , or even was there any purpose at all...most likely togashi wanted to give us some clue about what to expect next i read the arc long ago and probably forgot most of the details ... but whatever, watching the last 2 episodes i believe togashi wanted to establish something that only phantom troupe could prove phinks won because of raw power (not his peak power ) Bonolenov won by summoning jupiter size sound wave , raw power Shalnark became kind of super saiyan , raw power kalluto , well that was his ability , was there any strategy involved ? faitan , he won plain summoning a sun like object , not much strategy but huge raw power Shizuku could suck blood , won by the raw power mostly the thing is gon and gang has less crazier abilities compared to raw power of summoning sun,jupitar,sucking blood and their powers has more likely to do with mixing up strategies (remember morel+knuckle vs cheetu ? ) so when even higher level of ants appear,only raw power is not much of an effective option where you cant have op powers like summoning sun ...you also need wit and strategies with huge aura ...so the situation is more unstable at this point for one vs one rather than a 2 vs 1 match... probably that could also be a reason behind troupes short appearance and showing only their raw powers mostly... good job togashi !! or maybe am thinking too much... but just wanted to find out reasons behind troupes short appearance and revealing their power at this specific point of story which was bugging me ... Shizuku, Shalnark and Feitan didn't win by only using raw power, they were actually analyzing the situation. Shalnark had to resort to raw power due to his mistake of not knowing that that fat bug is a robot. Feitan had to resort to using his Nen because Zazan was physically stronger than him when she transformed into that monster. Bonolenov had to use his sound ability because the ant was way too fast for him. Phinks was the only one using raw power. Remember they are dealing with Ants, who are far superior than human beings with Nen in terms of physical strength. There really isn't a reason except to showcase some of the members Nen powers. It's great that we can get to see something new and awesome because I am bored of Gon and Killua abilities which is always the same... |
WickerSep 22, 2013 8:33 AM
| My guess is that at least one of the reasons for this little mini-arc is to establish the Phantom Troupes' abilities for an eventual clash with the main four. And, even if that isn't the case, it was still a nice diversion. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I was surprised at Kalluto's attitude considering he grew up in a family of assassin's but...at the same time I understand it. In his family, they help each other when needed to get a job done. For the Troupe, they're the legs of a spider but they all have a shared idea of how they work, and that's not together in a fight unless the fighter allows it. LMAO at Shalnark & Feitan teasing Phinks. xD [But it's not just like some girl with a crush. Guys can get really spacey about crushes too. /stereotypes] |
| 眠れないのは君のせい |
| Feitan was the highlight of this episode. He is a beast. |
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| Does anyone know the orchestra piece in episode 97? I've heard it before and performed it as a field show in high school but can't remember what the song's called. It's a wild west-themed song which makes me suspect it's an American composer. Best example of it would be at 16:30 when he does the Rising Sun move. Nvm. Figured it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu77Vtja30c Awesome choice of a song for that move. xD |
yngtadpoleSep 22, 2013 11:13 AM
yngtadpole said: Does anyone know the orchestra piece in episode 97? I've heard it before and performed it as a field show in high school but can't remember what the song's called. It's a wild west-themed song which makes me suspect it's an American composer. Best example of it would be at 16:30 when he does the Rising Sun move. I believe it's called Jupiter by Gustav Holst. It also played during episode 96. wakka9ca said: headless_nick said: or maybe am thinking too much... but just wanted to find out reasons behind troupes short appearance and revealing their power at this specific point of story which was bugging me ... It's just fan pandering. I'm sure it's more than fan pandering. You can consider using the Phantom Troupe as a way to gauge the power of the Chimera Ants, while also showing how far the Chimera Ants' presence has spread in the world. There are other things too like showing off many of the Troupe members' abilities (as it might become important in the future). |
| Further solidifying my absolute love of the Phantom Troupe <3 <3 They need a spin off, lol |
Kurokokoy said: is killua the favorite sibling of the zoldycks?? Of course, note Killua is the only that inherit the patriarch's silver hair color (Silva, Zeno) so he's the next head of house, so he's special. The other brothers took after mom with black hair. |
| Shizuku <3 the phantoms <3 they awesome! 5/5 |
| first a planet... now a star! whats next? |
| My Guitar Covers: Playlist I CAN ALWAYS SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU |
| Feitan is awesome |
| Man, Phantom Troupe are just too awesome especially Feitan. Like it when he was so pissed off. And pretty great action animation. Just love the guys watching while Feitan fight like its just an ordinary one then running when they saw he is so pissed off. Now, I am wondering if ever the Phantom Troupe will ever face off the King, will they have a chance??? Hmm.. |
Chaingate said: Best episode so far... I agree! And HxH has too many "best" episodes for me. The series is just consistently awesome so far. I even recommended it to a friend of mine who never watches anime before and surprisingly, she is totally hooked up now with HxH. |
| I feel like a lot of people are thinking too much or complaining too much about this being "off course" from the main story. As far as the purpose for this part, obviously I'm not Togashi so I don't know why he decided for it to be this way but I have some theories that I feel are pretty easy to understand that people overlook or over analyze. Firstly, this portion of the story was pretty much used as a means to show us some of the Troupe member's capabilities that we had not yet seen. As others have coined it, fan pandering. Togashi has made the Ryodan present in every arc since their introduction (in the anime so far). I don't see why them getting reintroduced here should be a surprise. Not only do the fans get some closure with the Spiders by getting acquainted with all of their abilities (excluding Nobunaga, who I'm still salty about not seeing his abilities) but we also get a chance to get updated on things such as Kalluto's reasons for joining the Ryodan, Bonolenov's backstory, Meteor City being shown and also Feitan becoming the interim boss. Secondly, I feel like the people who are complaining about this being "random" and "not central to the main plot" are forgetting what the current situation is. Right now, there are all the different squadron leaders who spread out to create their own kingdoms. These ants aren't just going to go away. It just so happened by chance that Zazan's kingdom was established in Meteor City where the Ryodan not only reside but are also the benefactors to the community much in the same way the Shadow Beasts were to the mafia. So in the context of the story it makes perfect sense to the main plot. Our current situation is that all of the previous squadron leaders have to be defeated in order to get to the big dogs, which are of course the Royal Guard and Meruem. With this in mind, nothing here is out of place to the main plot. Gon and company are going to be doing the same thing, so nothing was lost by throwing a bone to the Ryodan and letting them showcase their powers. |
Candior said: wakka9ca said: headless_nick said: or maybe am thinking too much... but just wanted to find out reasons behind troupes short appearance and revealing their power at this specific point of story which was bugging me ... It's just fan pandering. I'm sure it's more than fan pandering. You can consider using the Phantom Troupe as a way to gauge the power of the Chimera Ants, while also showing how far the Chimera Ants' presence has spread in the world. There are other things too like showing off many of the Troupe members' abilities (as it might become important in the future). yah maybe you are right , i was thinking too much , actually i like troupe very much and was hoping if they got involved , they should have more screen time with more impact in the story ... as fearthebeard85 said it was contextual , the thought also came to me ... but the spreading was so broad that , including only ryodan seemed small and random part in it...although we have been shown ants spreading other continental parts also ... as i said ryodans are big deal ...but Meteor City happened to be in the middle of the mess kind of justifies it ... thanks for explaining the staffs fear ... understanding this part is important for me... |
headless_nickSep 22, 2013 6:26 PM
| Feitan is a devil.... oh wait a minute.., I'm the devil Devils Jokes Yohohoho OT, i saw something which it won't be forgotten, Feitan IS A GOD you won't see an ability like that one every day,, you know, the rising sun was fucking EPIC i know that Feitan was very powerful from reading the manga, but it happened a long time ago so i had forgotten how much powerful he is, but seeing that get animated, it just like WOW 5/5 let's back to the story line |
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Kerozinn said: ok that is one HAX ability. Yes and no... he has to take pretty serious damage in order to use it. So, his hatsu would not even come into play if his opponent fatally wounds him or of course kills him in one attack. |
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| His anus twitches twice before he fires" Nice observations! Damn feitan so OP! |
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| Was Feitan really speaking Chinese? Didn't sound like it. DAT SNEERING KAPPEI THO |
| The big brown fox jumps over the lazy dog |
| Oh well, that ep reminded me why I like HxH. After this, all previous eps in the Chimera Ant arc seem not that good. I guess, it's Gon's mistake. |
kcaco said: Kurokokoy said: is killua the favorite sibling of the zoldycks?? Of course, note Killua is the only that inherit the patriarch's silver hair color (Silva, Zeno) so he's the next head of house, so he's special. The other brothers took after mom with black hair. makes sense |
| Cty Best mid |
| It's not just the hair, but he inherited the transmutation nen type, similar to Silva and Zeno. All the siblings we have been introduced to in the anime so far are manipulators. |
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| EPIC!!! Feitan burnt her to a crisp. Kalluto is outclassed. Dat Shizuku service. Chrollo's nen gonna return? More action next week XD |
| Is Feitan the most powerful of the PT?! After all, dude threw the sun at that she-male Queen! I don't think it's possible to top that!! Did anyone else LOL when Shizuku said this? When will I get to see my beloved Hisoka again? |
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| epic episode and that Shizuku service LF more action for next week and wonder if the series will stop airing by around December time |
| hahaha xD feitan`s troll face in the end |
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Villetta_Nu said: Is Feitan the most powerful of the PT?! After all, dude threw the sun at that she-male Queen! I don't think it's possible to top that!! Did anyone else LOL when Shizuku said this? When will I get to see my beloved Hisoka again? you were not the only one x) |
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Rolflolwut said: I miss Hisoka too! Is my favorite character!! Yeah, I'm enjoying this arc so far and yet I still wish Hisoka would show up. Also, and this is unrelated to my previous comment, I'm still curious as to who Netero went to see a few episodes back. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Feitan is too damn OP.Did not expect this. |
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| Holy shit Feitan. Shizuku got a stand. Kalluto man, oh god.. Can't wait for Gon vs Pitou btw. |
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insan3soldiern said: Also, and this is unrelated to my previous comment, I'm still curious as to who Netero went to see a few episodes back. You won't be disapointed. |
SetsukoHara said: insan3soldiern said: Also, and this is unrelated to my previous comment, I'm still curious as to who Netero went to see a few episodes back. You won't be disapointed. |
SetsukoHara said: Yes, you will.insan3soldiern said: Also, and this is unrelated to my previous comment, I'm still curious as to who Netero went to see a few episodes back. You won't be disapointed. |
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Noriko_Takaya said: SetsukoHara said: Yes, you will.insan3soldiern said: Also, and this is unrelated to my previous comment, I'm still curious as to who Netero went to see a few episodes back. You won't be disapointed. Well, I'll have to be one of the two I guess. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Feitan was fucking amazing. Can't wait for the next episode. |
| Almost all members of the troupe struggled against their enemy and they said they got injured, assuming that the king is a lot stronger than these chimera ants... this shows the power of the king + guards. I don't know how the hunters intend to deal with them >.< |
| Great to get to see Shizuku in action, like her laid back and very slightly ditzy persona. The Queen channeling Zarbon, love it. Feitan's great, my fav' in the group status enforced and I'm interested in a back story, though this is often the case in these epic shounen's - lots left to the imagination when it comes to very detailed minors. :( Love the laugh. + the sadism. Kalluto, honestly, underestimating the entire group and hoping to quickly assert himself as 2nd strongest, you're 10 years old. :D 10/10. |
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Charlie-Staz said: Anyone know the name of the OST that appears in episode 88 to 4:48 minutes? One theme that seems to be the Biscuit? I'm not 100% sure, but I think that is one of the few OSTs that have not been released at the moment so I don't think it has a name yet. It does seem like it's Biscuit's theme though. |
| Shizuku fanservice ftw. Btw Feitan won but you have to wonder if they will have had a chance against a Royal Guard since this ants are... well like ants in-frond of the Royal Guards. |
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