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icurry said: Zetsubo667 said: That was 5 years agoOkay this episode just proves how bad of an idea it is to go pass the manga. (I really hope this is an anime original ending). By far the most retarded part was Krul losing to Ferid when she curb stomped him in S1 Ep3/4. That was unbelievably anti-climatic. Look I don't mind if she gets captured and labelled as a 'traitor' but the way it was done here was completely stupid. I mean just a 13th and 7th progenitor take down a 3rd!!! Dear oh dear I just hope to God this does not happen in the manga. Serveral characters behave differently as well like Kimizuki who was much more furious in the manga. This episode gets a 3/10 Overall season gets a 6/10. Considering two centuries is considered 'short' to a vampire, do you really think 5 years will change crap? |
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| Nothing but another 25 minutes of tomfuckery to keep one busy. What the hell was that shit. 3/10 for the god-awful everything. 1/10 for killing off Krul. Manga is the last hope. Please don't be as shitty as this. |
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| 5.5/10 +more development (Shinoa) +interesting characters added (Kureto, Narumi) +plot twists (Kureto's plans, Guren, Ferid's plans) -Mika's vampire drama -No explanation for anything (Vampire/Demon/Angel/Virus/4HorsemenOfJohn origins) -Yuuichiro Hyakuya -Bland main characters (Kimizuki, Yoichi etc..) -Severe lack of backstories -No explanations for motives or these: Kureto's plans, Guren, Ferid's plans -Characters look undetailed when far from camera -What happened to the romance which OnS was trying to build up -Nakama/Kansoku (that's Comrades/Family in Japanese fyi) stereotypes could anyone be kind enough to tell me what chapter this episode finished at?? thx |
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ShadowTheRaven said: could anyone be kind enough to tell me what chapter this episode finished at?? thx Ch 40. The episode is ahead of the manga chapters. Ch 40 is the latest chapter. |
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mira-nyan said: okay thx a lot, btw is the manga good or is it fairly meh like the animeShadowTheRaven said: could anyone be kind enough to tell me what chapter this episode finished at?? thx Ch 40. The episode is ahead of the manga chapters. Ch 40 is the latest chapter. |
ShadowTheRaven said: mira-nyan said: okay thx a lot, btw is the manga good or is it fairly meh like the animeCh 40. The episode is ahead of the manga chapters. Ch 40 is the latest chapter. The manga is so much better than the anime, I recommend starting from the very beginning since the anime skipped a lot, and so you can appreciate the art. |
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ShadowTheRaven said: -Mika's vampire drama -No explanation for anything (Vampire/Demon/Angel/Virus/4HorsemenOfJohn origins) -Yuuichiro Hyakuya -Bland main characters (Kimizuki, Yoichi etc..) -Severe lack of backstories -No explanations for motives or these: Kureto's plans, Guren, Ferid's plans -Characters look undetailed when far from camera -What happened to the romance which OnS was trying to build up -Nakama/Kansoku (that's Comrades/Family in Japanese fyi) stereotypes I assure you, almost all these problems are fixed in the manga. The nakama thing is a theme, tho, so it's not changing. Imo Yu is more likeable in the manga and Mika is still kinda-dramatic, but not in an annoying way. Also, yes, the manga art is orgasmic. |
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mira-nyan said: Also, yes, the manga art is orgasmic. I mean, look at this shit, it's beautiful |
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| The end was quite confusing, Yu could be better with his power and name. They forgot to say to save Krul, shes another likeable character. Mika, you should of told them to save Krul, dont just forget her. It would of been an 9 but still a strong 8.8 |
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kurikinton said: YES focus that ass more  is that Shinoa ass, if so fuck yeah if not then no thanks |
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ShadowTheRaven said: +more development (Shinoa) +interesting characters added (Kureto, Narumi) +plot twists (Kureto's plans, Guren, Ferid's plans) -Mika's vampire drama -No explanation for anything (Vampire/Demon/Angel/Virus/4HorsemenOfJohn origins) -Yuuichiro Hyakuya -Bland main characters (Kimizuki, Yoichi etc..) -Severe lack of backstories -No explanations for motives or these: Kureto's plans, Guren, Ferid's plans -Characters look undetailed when far from camera -What happened to the romance which OnS was trying to build up -Nakama/Kansoku (that's Comrades/Family in Japanese fyi) stereotypes could anyone be kind enough to tell me what chapter this episode finished at?? thx Thank you , you did all the typing for me. Overall I give this a 4/10 same as season 1. Wasted potential. Overall the characters just don't feel alive for me. Honestly I just can't take this show seriously when it wants to be taken seriously. The story itself is a mess and doesn't offer any explanations for anything and just feels like a clusterf@#k full of ideas randomly thrown together. I'll be keeping an eye on the source material as well in hopes that it might be better , however thus far I am not impressed at all. |
| Guess I better pick up the manga now to figure out just what the ever-loving fuck happened in this final episode. |
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| At first I was like yay and then wait what and now I'm just like wtf. Seriously what the fuck even happend, everyone just suddenly made their move and shit went down so fucking fast. Idek how I feel about this, I'm so confused. I need to watch this ep again, I'm so lost. |
lalabella said: At first I was like yay and then wait what and now I'm just like wtf. Seriously what the fuck even happend, everyone just suddenly made their move and shit went down so fucking fast. Idek how I feel about this, I'm so confused. I need to watch this ep again, I'm so lost. I agree I got lost at some point but which part did you get lost? For me I think it was more rushed than lost when it was a battle between vampire against human then demon and angels came into the battle so it just became too awkward. In other words too much action were thrown into a mix bag. |
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Renaultclio101 said: lalabella said: At first I was like yay and then wait what and now I'm just like wtf. Seriously what the fuck even happend, everyone just suddenly made their move and shit went down so fucking fast. Idek how I feel about this, I'm so confused. I need to watch this ep again, I'm so lost. I agree I got lost at some point but which part did you get lost? For me I think it was more rushed than lost when it was a battle between vampire against human then demon and angels came into the battle so it just became too awkward. In other words too much action were thrown into a mix bag. Yeah somewhere around the time the angel entered the battle is probably where I lost it. After that it's like my brain was stuck on that and everything that happened afterwards just kinda passed by my eyes without my brain registering anything. Like everything happened soooooooooo crazy fast. |
melodisz said: tsuns said: I guess you could say everyone felt a little salty after this. Worse than season 1. Great pun and a very agreeable opinion. I somehow want to like Seraph, but every time it just fucks up. It could've been much better. Enough ranting, time to give it a score. 3/10 |
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| What's with the half ass ending? It's like they didn't give a damn anymore. |
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| The finale was so awesome but that transition and ending... wHAt? .... ... .. . What? Also nice to see Narumi added to the ending |
| It was interesting but let a lot of stuff without a proper conclusion. 1st About that trompets; 2nd The real story about Krul Tepes and her secrets; 3rd Vampires made their first move...; 4th What happened with Guren in the past? And 5th what have happened is the last four months? Btw, this was better than the first season. That's my opinion and I don't care about what do you think about my way of mark this story. So 10/10! ^.^ |
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| What the hell... I guess I'll just ask the most irrelevant question: do those cloaks Kureto and Guren wore near the end signify anything? I'm really not sure how to rate this... |
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| This episode was just something else compared to the rest of the season - way amazing - loved it. This sets quite well considering we'll probably have sequel for all this. More of this yes please/5 EDIT: after some reading of the comments I can say something more: Agreed, it was very rushed, although to me it was pretty clear - it's not like you can answer everything in such a short burst of plot. Also, the cloaks with Guren and Kureto were obviously sign of their promoting/symbol of their status as the Big Bosses of the human organization. Yet I'm so happy how this all turned out - it's screaming out for the sequel that will give a lot more answers for all the confusion. Needs moar manga, that's all - so glad there wasn't a (purely?) original ending that kinda tried to answer some plot stuff and would almost certainly fail. |
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| Jeez. I cant think of ANYTHING in these last two episodes that wasnt rushed. Even the action was rushed and explanations cut out to make enough room to finish. (Although, Krul destroying Crowley in 2 seconds flat was insanely satisfying--o wait nvm hes back on his feet ofc). Okay what the actual fuck? 4 month time skip in the middle of an important scene. The entire point of the 2 season series was crammed into the end. This series seriously could have been amazing and had plenty of room for good plot development, but it just wasnt paced properly at all. Cant believe Im doing this, but Im going to have to nail this one down to a 6/10. And thats being generous, giving credit to the enjoyable parts of the season. |
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| The first season felt stale and missed action scenes which this one had in abundance, but this one felt so rushed. A lot of thing where not explained and the few things that where didn't seem to have much relevance towards the end. It feels like the original material had so much to give and that the adaptation was so poorly made. |
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| I'm pretty sure Krul didn't die. |
| Well that was something? Hope Krul isn't dead tho, I was really hoping for her to join Mika, Yuu and the others.. oh well. 7/10 only bc the last three eps were interesting. |
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| Thankfully, it seems a lot of people in here are saying Krul isn't dead. I sure hope that's the case! King of Salt, aka me when playing fighting games. This episode felt like something out of Berserk. I could have sworn this was the Eclipse! No idea what to rate this. Another non-ending, and given that there's no manga material left, we certainly won't be getting another season for a long time. Oh, well. Seraph had its moments I guess. So long for now. <3 Shinoa. |
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ShadowTheRaven said: -Characters look undetailed when far from camera Do you ppl not realise that you sound like spoilt children when you say shit like this? Exactly what anime are you comparing this to? Something by Studio Ghibli or Ufotable? Only the hella high budget TV animes'll ever have background characters that aren't low detail. Even movies leave bg characters in low detail. Why the fuck would they waste money drawing a face on a guy who's all the way in the back? Just cause you can pause it and zoom in to point it out doesn't make the animation bad, especially since it's meant to be watched animated (clue's in the name, kids) at the resolution they released it in. I mean yeah, the first cour had a few issues where they didn't have time to add in between frames to a couple episodes that was gonna be fixed in the BDs anyway, but this season's animation has been really on the ball. Especially this last episode, which looked AMAZING! Or did you all just close your eyes for the scene where Yuu became the king of salt? |
| Wait.... thats the end? wtf? any chances for S3? |
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| Yu is too salty. So many wanna be critics here. GO AWAY |
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| Krul isn't dead. There will be enough material for a season 3. Can't wait to read the manga. Love it that MC and his team gotten hurt even though it was a little. They wouldn't of lasted this long with out plot armor. Mika x Krul |
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SkyHora said: Krul isn't dead. There will be enough material for a season 3. Can't wait to read the manga. Love it that MC and his team gotten hurt even though it was a little. They wouldn't of lasted this long with out plot armor. Mika x Krul It was quite sad at the end when Mika forgot to mention of saving Krul as Yu just said to save Guren and his team mate's sister(angel). |
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Renaultclio101 said: SkyHora said: Krul isn't dead. There will be enough material for a season 3. Can't wait to read the manga. Love it that MC and his team gotten hurt even though it was a little. They wouldn't of lasted this long with out plot armor. Mika x Krul It was quite sad at the end when Mika forgot to mention of saving Krul as Yu just said to save Guren and his team mate's sister(angel). It's probably an anime-only thing. |
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straggy said: ShadowTheRaven said: -Characters look undetailed when far from camera Do you ppl not realise that you sound like spoilt children when you say shit like this? I laughed because I've seen so so SO much worse. In Vampire Bund, they don't even bother making sure both eyes are aligned....which is just so sad. Seraph's character art was decent enough. |
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xsplashbluex said: never going to happen unfortunatelySeason 3 : Rescue Guren & Kimizuki's sister. Break Krul out of prison. :D |
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SoraSenpai said: xsplashbluex said: never going to happen unfortunatelySeason 3 : Rescue Guren & Kimizuki's sister. Break Krul out of prison. :D Put some faith into it and might happen. Sadly Mika, did not say he will rescue Krul and I have a feeling the manga author is following the anime, from where I am seeing |
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Renaultclio101 said: SoraSenpai said: never going to happen unfortunately Put some faith into it and might happen. Sadly Mika, did not say he will rescue Krul and I have a feeling the manga author is following the anime, from where I am seeing The author wrote the plot line for the anime + manga. But that's irrelevant, considering how much WIT omitted important lines. |
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| King of Salt is perfect for Yuu, considering how salty he was during the whole series. I'm sure a bunch of you are followers of him as well. Considering how much salt is in this post. Anyways, I will agree that this felt rushed af. I would've taken a cliffhanger during all that shit over having a rushed last few episodes to catch up with the manga + a chapter. Oh well, nothing we can do about that. |
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mira-nyan said: Rurihime said: Is it only me who thinks Guren's decision to be loyal to Kureto is only an acting? Maybe he and Mahiru will betray Kureto. Mahiru always betray the Hiragii family. That's why i think he will do a move to help Yuu and company in the end. No, I've contemplated that many times. In general, if Guren didn't follow Kureto, Kureto'd probably torture his loved ones. We all know how much Kureto loves using torture. Apart from that, Guren does have his own goals. This was supposed to be included last season, but WIT, being WIT, decided to leave it out: For a long time his goal has been to usurp the throne for the Hiiragis. He's not loyal to Kureto at all, so you could say he was acting, but it's not like he's ever acted serious around Kureto. I mean, did you see all the bored faces he threw around in one of the earlier eps? Don't get me wrong, they do have a friendship, but it's not like Guren's Kureto's dog, who always follows him. This isn't Aoi we're talking about. As well as that, seeing as Mahiru hates Kureto from heaven to hell, I doubt she'd let Guren be swayed by him. Also, there's this page, which wasn't really included: Using the knowledge from those two, important, pages, that happened to not be included in the anime, you could safely say that Guren is certainly not on Kureto's side. It's just that Guren doesn't hate Kureto, either. I'd like to use my knowledge of the LN to help, but everything after Volume 4 is a clusterfuck and Guren's goal might've changed as he grew older. Yes. That was my point. Guren has a plan... better: Mahiru has her plan to destroy the Hiiragis. He is just acting, therefore Shinya and Yuu don't understand that (apparent) change. Since the anime doesn't show that moment when Mahiru tells Guren not to awake, it isn't so clear in the anime. But that lines in the manga made me understand that "acting". My doubt is... how far will that plan go? I think always in a prologue of the LN. I can even think that Mahiru's plans will be good or fair for Yuu and friends. M and G can go as far as they can Lol. I'm just trying to see who are the heroes and who are the antagonist. Owari no Seraph changed the allies and the enemies. First (all) the vampires were the enemies, and now the Hiiragi family (not all). Until i don't know nothing about Mahiru's plan, i don't really know if they are allies or enemies. It can change even in the end of the story. At this point of the story i only see a chess with pawns who die because of reasons we don't know yet. |
Rurihime said: He is just acting, therefore Shinya and Yuu don't understand that (apparent) change. You lost me. Since the anime doesn't show that moment when Mahiru tells Guren not to awake, it isn't so clear in the anime. But that lines in the manga made me understand that "acting". What 'acting'? It's not Guren anymore, it's Mahiru. I'm kinda confused about what you're saying. My doubt is... how far will that plan go? It's been going for ~19 years, so I'm sure it'll go far. I think always in a prologue of the LN. Well, in the end, Guren would never be able to sacrifice his friends. In fact, it was something Kureto mentioned during their talk. I can even think that Mahiru's plans will be good or fair for Yuu and friends. M and G can go as far as they can Well, Mahiru alone. The reason Mahiru didn't want Guren to wake up was because, like she said, he would never be able to recover from it. Lol. I'm just trying to see who are the heroes and who are the antagonist. Owari no Seraph changed the allies and the enemies. First (all) the vampires were the enemies, and now the Hiiragi family (not all). Until i don't know nothing about Mahiru's plan, i don't really know if they are allies or enemies. It can change even in the end of the story. In stories like these, it's best not to try to separate good and evil because, at some point, you will hit a rock. Mahiru and Guren would be perfect examples of 'grey' characters. |
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