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kymano said: Darklight0303 said: A fake Asseylum made those claims. AS such they are completely invalid sorry to break it to you. Are...are you this ignorant?? Lemrina didnt make the rules, Marylcian explained that the Vers Counts VOTED to make Saazbaum Asseylum's guardian and now that Slaine suceeded Saazbaum.He under Vers' law is Asseylum's guardian. That voting became invalidated the second Slaine said he wasn't a part of Vers anymore. He may have been her legal guardian before, but once he swore loyalty to himself and wanted to create a new kingdom separate from Vers, then Vers rules no longer apply to him. Hence why he told Asseylum she had no authority over him and was able to throw her in lock up. Sorry pal, but he cant be his own rule maker AND Asseylum's guardian. It doesn't work like that; you cant have it both ways. So what Klainkain did was completely acceptable. And maybe you didn't watch the episode, because the Emperor clearly has dementia. |
| priceless: Lemrina "I pity you" she said to slaine EPIC ED by Sora Amamiya! |
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Sapphirebreeze said: Viktor_Otaku said: #Slainedidnothingwrong Never really understood the whole "Slaine did nothing wrong" term when Kaneki from the Tokyo Ghoul manga is more deserving of this title. Slaine on the other hand... Did I miss something? Is this a joke or do people actually believe that Slaine really did nothing wrong? They actually believe it. The lack of sanity in the Slaine fandom is very concerning |
| i assume the ending would looked like the art in the ending. Princess Ass goes poliandry with inaho, suraine, and kurankain. they then proced to please themself on gangbang in galaxy far-far-away. |
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JeffreyZin said: this show has been fucked-up in so many levels after Princess Asselyum end up with Cruteo's son......... I imagine lots of people felt the frustrating power of a well executed NTR... |
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Maledict said: JeffreyZin said: this show has been fucked-up in so many levels after Princess Asselyum end up with Cruteo's son......... I imagine lots of people felt the frustrating power of a well executed NTR... It's impressive that people even care. Darklight seems to be the biggest InahoxAsseylum shipper on these boards and I frankly don't understand why he cares. The love triangle involving Asseylum is one of the cringiest storylines of the show. I know shippers are gonna ship, but dear god I wish this show would just forget about the romance entirely. |
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| I had an interesting Slaine/Asseylum when he was still running around practically killing himself to reach her, mostly because I liked Slaine (dude went through torture for her sake) and partially because Inaho is a shit character, but now idgaf. Lemrina is a much, much better character than Asseylum anyway, so if he ends up with, he's better off for it. |
Savethebestforu said: , but dear god I wish this show would just forget about the romance entirely. Wait was there anything resembling romance to begin with? |
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opiktea said: i assume the ending would looked like the art in the ending. Princess Ass goes poliandry with inaho, suraine, and kurankain. they then proced to please themself on gangbang in galaxy far-far-away. Best ending, 11/10 (especially if the gangbang is shown satisfyingly). Maledict said: I imagine lots of people felt the frustrating power of a well executed NTR... Bold - yeah, but well executed, seriously? |
deadoptimistMar 24, 2015 10:30 AM
deadoptimist said: Bold - yeah, but well executed, seriously? More than seriously. What else do you call 22 episodes of development between the two likely candidates for the female, each side being comfortable with its state and progress, and would only feel regret if the opposite side won, when suddenly... ...after 1 episode, this random guy comes in out of nowhere and without even remotely trying marries the already thought to be occupied girl, taking a big dump on the those 22 episodes of development and thrusting the two fanbases into the emotions NTR was made to bring out in the reader/watcher. By ''well executed'' I meant as jealousy-inspiring as it can get, because jealousy and frustration are the only criteria an NTR should be judged upon. If Cruhteo had more screen time it wouldn't have worked that way, since he would slowly attract a fanbase and get accepted as an official contender. One of the main aspects of NTR is the lasting and seemingly solid relationship between a couple to be completely destroyed on the spur of the moment, basically by some nobody, which this episode did flawlessly, so yes - it was very well executed. |
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Maledict said: By ''well executed'' I meant as jealousy-inspiring as it can get, because jealousy and frustration are the only criteria an NTR should be judged upon. Well, ok then. >< It's a really ctastrophic level of shipping crashes, can't agrue. And I am not very knowledgeable in the finer points of the usage of the term. I protested aginst the word "well" in the case of a development this messed up. Cause a change of a love interest can be also shown psychologically accurately and realistically, and it's not the case here. But maybe it isn't an NTR if it's shown accurately... In terms of the strength of the effect - I agree, sure. |
deadoptimistMar 24, 2015 11:17 AM
| Gotta roll my eyes any anyone who thought that was anything but political convenience. Especially with that bit she put on right after finishing her talk with her Grandpa. "Hey, klondike bar. I need to marry somebody to use their connections in order to help out Inaho or the Earth, or something. You happen to be a male, about my age, and a Count." |
| One of the few questions I still have about A.Z at the moment is whether these Klondike bars everybody jokes about are tasty. I am intrigued now. We don't have'em here. |
| Now now, guys. At least we finally got an explanation on what Aldnoah actually is - it's apparently... a Martian superscience. Finally, some real answers. Rejoice! |
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Maledict said: Now now, guys. At least we finally got an explanation on what Aldnoah actually is - it's apparently... a Martian superscience. Finally, some real answers. Rejoice! Ah, yeah, that was the tasty bit it was wise to leave until the end of the discussion. Superscience... *facepalms*... (no, still hasn't passed) *facepalms again* ... ugh... (here, seemingly fine now) *cheerfully* So we know what it is! Everything is so clear now! But damn, what will they do when hyperscience arrives? Let's use some metascience thinking, guys! |
kymano said: Jonesy974 said: That voting became invalidated the second Slaine said he wasn't a part of Vers anymore. He may have been her legal guardian before, but once he swore loyalty to himself and wanted to create a new kingdom separate from Vers, then Vers rules no longer apply to him. Hence why he told Asseylum she had no authority over him and was able to throw her in lock up. Sorry pal, but he cant be his own rule maker AND Asseylum's guardian. It doesn't work like that; you cant have it both ways. So what Klainkain did was completely acceptable. And maybe you didn't watch the episode, because the Emperor clearly has dementia. Uh 1 Slaine still inherited that privilege as Asseylum's guardian, Slaine may not belong to Vers which means Klankain should not have arrived on his moonbase.He never told Asseylum of her authority over him, he told her that he cannot follow order to call a ceasefire(which Klankain explained later would have caused havoc against Asseylum) What Klankain did was unacceptable considering he was ordered to return to base, Slaine had the rights to take measure upon someone who did not follow warnings. The Emperor NEVER told Klankain to investigate anything, the Emperor seemed in content with Asseylum's conquest of taking over the Earth why the heck would he want that to stop.Knowing well Him,his son,his Counts and Knights wanted this to happen. Its best not to try defend an under-developed Character who just lied and disobeyed orders, we dont know who is behind Klankain's investigation but either way Klankain now has the Aldnoah activation rights. Says the one who so desperately tried to paint Mazurek as some evil mastermind. Keep living in that delusional fanfic of yours |
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JerichoDeath said: Gotta roll my eyes any anyone who thought that was anything but political convenience. Especially with that bit she put on right after finishing her talk with her Grandpa. "Hey, klondike bar. I need to marry somebody to use their connections in order to help out Inaho or the Earth, or something. You happen to be a male, about my age, and a Count." It's obvious the marriage is purely political. This anime does not take romance seriously. I mean the only true hint at love has been Inko's crush on Inaho and the sisterly love Yuki has for Inaho. Otherwise this show fails at showing 'love.' Obsession and infactuation maybe but love? Please let us not insult the romance genre. On another note, why does the princess even need to marry Klancain. If he's loyal like he claims then he should help her without needing a marriage deal. As the empress she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants but nooooo she needs to rely on a male? Fuck this sexist shit. I sure as hell know that if Asseylum was a guy she probably wouldn't need to marry some female count to score points. LOL but this is a whole other argument. |
Inugirlz said: On another note, why does the princess even need to marry Klancain. If he's loyal like he claims then he should help her without needing a marriage deal. As the empress she should be able to do whatever the fuck she wants but nooooo she needs to rely on a male? Fuck this sexist shit. I sure as hell know that if Asseylum was a guy she probably wouldn't need to marry some female count to score points. LOL but this is a whole other argument. I didn't want to bring that up, but I was honestly thinking the same thing. Mod edit: Quote of deleted comment removed. |
AversaMar 27, 2015 1:02 PM
| The marriage is political and it makes sense in exactly one regard - it puts a stop to any attempts to further fight for princess Asseylum's hand, but from a storytelling pov it's nothing but a nasty NTR, since Klancain and the whole matter of the Mars homeland came out of the blue. Also it makes the princess slightly strange, considering her previous inaction (no matter the reason, cause, again, we have solely the pogression in a narrative to judge after). kymano said: Uh 1 Slaine still inherited that privilege as Asseylum's guardian, Slaine may not belong to Vers which means Klankain should not have arrived on his moonbase. Looking at your posts you seem to think too deep into it, and expect a political intrugue from the writers that can't into it. I can relate, truly. The missed opportunities are painful to watch. It's unbelievably stupid that Slaine left Klancain's ship operational. He should've put it on maintenance and disable or at least add some tracking equipment the moment it hit the deck (since he has full authority on the base and Klancain doesn't know yet of Slaine not considering himself a versian). Very starnge for any political leader in the middle of a grand scheme. But their fortified base is made to look like a drive-through canteen - anyone comes and goes and does whatever. kymano said: The Emperor NEVER told Klankain to investigate anything, the Emperor seemed in content with Asseylum's conquest of taking over the Earth why the heck would he want that to stop.Knowing well Him,his son,his Counts and Knights wanted this to happen. Yeah, I've been checking posts on A.Z (I am preparing a post on it's memes elsewhere ><), and I found a text that struck me as very true. It explained me why Klancain unnerves me so - everything screams that he is in fact a villain. The emperor is off, and why could he have misgivings about subjugating the Earth if he dreams about it in his final moments?Klancain came out of nowhere in exactly the right moment and he seems a bit too ideal with his marital provess, right equipment, right age and appearance, good skill in lying and the ability to say the right thing in exactly the right time. Also we all saw Cruhteo, the man was a piece of work, so when they introduce his son you naturally expect him to have the same sadistick streak (at least). I simply can't buy that he is a goodie two shoes. Asseylum doesn't seem to know him too well too - she met him, but she can't know what he had been up to for the last 2 or three years and, probably, is not too aware, what he did before. She can put herself in even bigger mess when marrying him. But she has a problem with her love for theatrics. For example, she should've in fact annnounced only her taking of the power and marriage during the broadcast, maybe a ceasefire, not offer peace at unclear conditions - that's bad for Vers. Oh, and btw, Klancain may be Cruhteo's sucessor and have a weight and wealth on Mars, but what can he do at the orbit? (And if not for the shitty romance, if he tried to take her to Mars, they'd shoot his ship or blow it up all together and be like, lol, here she goes, Lemrina, come forward, girl.) |
deadoptimistMar 25, 2015 4:57 AM
deadoptimist said: The marriage is political and it makes sense in exactly one regard - it puts a stop to any attempts to further fight for princess Asseylum's hand, but from a storytelling pov it's nothing but a nasty NTR, since Klancain and the whole matter of the Mars homeland came out of the blue. Also it makes the princess slightly strange, considering her previous inaction (no matter the reason, cause, again, we have solely the pogression in a narrative to judge after). kymano said: Uh 1 Slaine still inherited that privilege as Asseylum's guardian, Slaine may not belong to Vers which means Klankain should not have arrived on his moonbase. Looking at your posts you seem to think too deep into it, and expect a political intrugue from the writers that can't into it. I can relate, truly. The missed opportunities are painful to watch. It's unbelievably stupid that Slaine left Klancain's ship operational. He should've put it on maintenance and disable or at least add some tracking equipment the moment it hit the deck (since he has full authority on the base and Klancain doesn't know yet of Slaine not considering himself a versian). Very starnge for any political leader in the middle of a grand scheme. But their fortified base is made to look like a drive-through canteen - anyone comes and goes and does whatever. kymano said: The Emperor NEVER told Klankain to investigate anything, the Emperor seemed in content with Asseylum's conquest of taking over the Earth why the heck would he want that to stop.Knowing well Him,his son,his Counts and Knights wanted this to happen. Yeah, I've been checking posts on A.Z (I am preparing a post on it's memes elsewhere ><), and I found a text that struck me as very true. It explained me why Klancain unnerves me so - everything screams that he is in fact a villain. The emperor is off, and why could he have misgivings about subjugating the Earth if he dreams about it in his final moments?Klancain came out of nowhere in exactly the right moment and he seems a bit too ideal with his marital provess, right equipment, right age and appearance, good skill in lying and the ability to say the right thing in exactly the right time. Also we all saw Cruhteo, the man was a piece of work, so when they introduce his son you naturally expect him to have the same sadistick streak (at least). I simply can't buy that he is a goodie two shoes. Asseylum doesn't seem to know him too well too - she met him, but she can't know what he had been up to for the last 2 or three years and, probably, is not too aware, what he did before. She can put herself in even bigger mess when marrying him. But she has a problem with her love for theatrics. For example, she should've in fact annnounced only her taking of the power and marriage during the broadcast, maybe a ceasefire, not offer peace at unclear conditions - that's bad for Vers. Oh, and btw, Klancain may be Cruhteo's sucessor and have a weight and wealth on Mars, but what can he do at the orbit? Your mistake comes from seeing Slaine as a political leader. Because he isn't. |
Darklight0303 said: Your mistake comes from seeing Slaine as a political leader. Because he isn't. Oh, plz. And let's say there was Harklight, who give the impression of a person diligent enough to have a timetable of backstabbing, on him, updated, real time. And there were my other points too. |
deadoptimist said: Darklight0303 said: Your mistake comes from seeing Slaine as a political leader. Because he isn't. Oh, plz. And let's say there was Harklight, who give the impression of a person diligent enough to have a timetable of backstabbing, on him, updated, real time. And there were my other points too. You realize Harklight was in the middle of battle right? He wasn't there to make the moves for Slaine. The point is Slaine is not a political leader whatsoever. |
| Slaine arose from a position that was essentially no better than slave servant to a count to whom several Orbital Knights have sworn their fealty to... but he's not a political leader? Honestly, Darklight0303, I don't know whether you're trolling or just that stupid. |
Darklight0303 said: You realize Harklight was in the middle of battle right? He wasn't there to make the moves for Slaine. The point is Slaine is not a political leader whatsoever. He was there during the time when Klancain arrived. |
deadoptimist said: Darklight0303 said: You realize Harklight was in the middle of battle right? He wasn't there to make the moves for Slaine. The point is Slaine is not a political leader whatsoever. He was there during the time when Klancain arrived. And then the terrans attacked. Before he could get a chance to do anything to the ship. Klancain was not there for even a whole day before everything happened. Remember Slaine's discussion with Harklight how he was going to try and bring Klancain over to his side? Until that failed he would not have had reason to disable the ship TheIMF said: Slaine arose from a position that was essentially no better than slave servant to a count to whom several Orbital Knights have sworn their fealty to... but he's not a political leader? Honestly, Darklight0303, I don't know whether you're trolling or just that stupid. There's a difference between getting carried to the top by influential connections and actually ACTING and PERFORMINC COMPETENTLY LIKE ONE. Anyone can yell and point dramaticaly at the enemy when they are guaranteed obedience by those around them. That doesn't make them a true leader. You can dress a baboon for a teaparty but that won't stop it from taking its shit and throwing it at the other person's face during it. Mod edit: Double post merged. |
AversaMar 27, 2015 1:03 PM
Darklight0303 said: TheIMF said: Slaine arose from a position that was essentially no better than slave servant to a count to whom several Orbital Knights have sworn their fealty to... but he's not a political leader? Honestly, Darklight0303, I don't know whether you're trolling or just that stupid. There's a difference between getting carried to the top by influential connections and actually ACTING and PERFORMINC COMPETENTLY LIKE ONE. Anyone can yell and point dramaticaly at the enemy when they are guaranteed obedience by those around them. That doesn't make them a true leader. You can dress a baboon for a teaparty but that won't stop it from taking its shit and throwing it at the other person's face during it. Yeah, I'm not doing this. I've already wasted enough of my time on you to know better. There is no helping someone as obsessed like you and it's no wonder you've become a joke in the Aldnoah forum section. Seek professional help. |
Darklight0303 said: Until that failed he would not have had reason to disable the ship There is one - it's called precaution. Also Harklight is there and he is in the control center until the end of their exchange of the platitudes (a perfect moment to mess up the ship). Darklight0303 said: Anyone can yell and point dramaticaly at the enemy when they are guaranteed obedience by those around them. He is not guranteed anything - they can topple him any moment. Him, a terran, an adopted child of Saazbaum, a fiancee of a supposedly ill princess, holding onto power is a huge achievement. |
deadoptimist said: Darklight0303 said: Until that failed he would not have had reason to disable the ship There is one - it's called precaution. Also Harklight is there and he is in the control center until the end of their exchange of the platitudes (a perfect moment to mess up the ship). Darklight0303 said: Anyone can yell and point dramaticaly at the enemy when they are guaranteed obedience by those around them. He is not guranteed anything - they can topple him any moment. Him, a terran, an adopted child of Saazbaum, a fiancee of a supposedly ill princess, holding onto power is a huge achievement. And if he ended up turning to their side then he has to explain the awkward situation. Klancain did well to mask his true intent since he showed no outward sign of being against Slaine. They can't topple him as long as the engagement to the princess held water. Which it did until the end of this episode when Asseylum pretty much blew the lid on his farce of an arrangement. |
Darklight0303 said: And if he ended up turning to their side then he has to explain the awkward situation. Klancain did well to mask his true intent since he showed no outward sign of being against Slaine. They can't topple him as long as the engagement to the princess held water. Which it did until the end of this episode when Asseylum pretty much blew the lid on his farce of an arrangement. Not at all. They'll just have to make the engine operational again (cause they checked it for his safety), or not, to look at his conduct longer. So, you see, balancing has always been a tall task, since there was a tube and a different looking princess to hide. |
deadoptimistMar 25, 2015 6:33 AM
Viktor_Otaku said: Look, its just that It doesn't make sense. okktoht said: Is this is some kinda joke??? I'm not amused. IDK about you but I chocked on my coffee laughing when I saw this. Let's just add the additonal condition that it's consensual (cause rape is a no-no), then we're peachy, and I can admit I think as well that a big explosion or an orgy would be the most fitting end. Anything that gets the already existing insanity to the max. kymano said: BH I think Slaine probably just want Klancain to think that everything is fine and then just return to Vers with a nice little report. But I don't think that is likely when he declared independence from them. Still it was so disappointing to see nobody bothering with precautions at all. It's a pretty well known situation for any story about political intrigues - a visit of someone of high standing and loyalty to a place where an uprising is cooked. Normally the people with changed loyalties plan for taking the said person out, if he or she finds out the truth or/and doesn't want to join. It was easy for them to suffocate any resistance in the outward hospitality. And the gates are broken, so the ones back on Mars won't be able to send a replacement or a punishing force soon. Btw, frankly, I can't understand why they would be on good terms with the old Vers at all after the announcement of the creation of a new country. And what is the length of the journey? Didn't Klancain start it, when there was no such plan known to the public? Edit: Also, plz, can somebody let me out of the dark with the Klondikes? I see all the memes and can't decide what to think, cause I don't know whether the stuff is considered tasty. |
deadoptimistMar 25, 2015 8:36 AM
deadoptimist said: Oh, and also, Darklight, since you're here like all the time anyway and you strike me as American judging from the language, can you contribute to the discussion for a change and tell me what these Klondike bars are and if they're tasty or not. Honestly, I feel this is uncalled for. Can you actually for once not be so diminishing towards him. It is cringeworthy to read. The whole Inaho vs. Slaine debate is also rapidly becoming old. Honestly - whomever you side with - both are poorly executed characters due to bad writing. It was clear from the very start that Slaine would become the protagonist of the story, as he never truly cared for Asseylum's her wishes. If he did, he would have never done what he did. As for Inaho he lacks any background story or progress throughout this show or whatsoever, however at least his actions are more justifiable than Slaine's. |
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Yzori said: Honestly, I feel this is uncalled for. Can you actually for once not be so diminishing towards him. It is cringeworthy to read. *spills her tea from laughter* Oh, damn. We have a history, so that's why. But feel free to report me I you really feel like whiteknighting the bane of this subforum. Yzori said: It was clear from the very start that Slaine would become the protagonist of the story, as he never truly cared for Asseylum's her wishes. Sorry, didn't really understand. It looks to me as though Inaho is the MC, and I don't agree with the second part of the statement (about Asseylum) especially with the "never". Also I am not really sure not caring about Asseylum and being the protagonist is connected. |
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