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Jul 20, 2009 1:44 PM

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raito-kun said:
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Edit: The quality of anime that is being produced is dropping only because fans continue to say stuff like this "isn't" bad.


Wrong. The quality of anime is dropping because fans criticize well-made shows like this, while praising cheap and bad anime like Umineko.


By a technical aspect, yes Haruhi is well-made, but from a narrative aspect, it's never been as bad as it is right now.
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It's kinda funny really when the announced the 2nd season of haruhi i flipped and when it ended up as this i was very so pissed still kinda am.
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Not following the show atm, but, if I understand it right, they're doing the groundhog day thingy, but they reuse the cells a lot, so its just looks lazy and cheap?


See, there's the problem. If you only listen to what the others who watched the episodes in FFW as well rant about. Since it's KyoAni, a lot of details are always different. They always wear different, great looking outfits, and many of the repeated situations are given new angles or little gags. It's really worth watching it all.

I'm still laughing at the people saying they watch this in 3x speed and then dare to put the updates on their lists.

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I lol'd.

And.

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Haruhi fanboys had it coming.. no need to apologize.. funny thing is, it's so bad this guy is apologizing for it and the retarded fanboys are still rating 10/10 and reviewing it as perfect. lol


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raito-kun said:
Loverhina said:

Edit: The quality of anime that is being produced is dropping only because fans continue to say stuff like this "isn't" bad.


Wrong. The quality of anime is dropping because fans criticize well-made shows like this, while praising cheap and bad anime like Umineko.

ha ha ha oh wow
I hope you can get 8 more episodes of well made Endless Eight

Hey... that would be well made right? lol

Kyoani is lucky indeed. They have the most loyal fanboys ever XD
Good job Kyoani!
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I lol'd.
Jul 20, 2009 2:03 PM

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The stupid part is ... everyone is so annoyed by this arc but it still has like over 8 on MAL ...
Jul 20, 2009 2:04 PM

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DarknessAngel said:
The stupid part is ... everyone is so annoyed by this arc but it still has like over 8 on MAL ...
You must be blind son, its a 7.9(and still dropping) atm.
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cyruz said:

I'm still laughing at the people saying they watch this in 3x speed and then dare to put the updates on their lists.

Yeah.... what's wrong with those people? Everybody should just be a proper and loyal fanboy and waste his time to carefully watch each repeated episode.

Hey look! Yuki has a new outfit! AWESOME
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Defiance said:
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The stupid part is ... everyone is so annoyed by this arc but it still has like over 8 on MAL ...
You must be blind son, its a 7.9(and still dropping) atm.


considering all the people that are rating it 1/10, for it to still be 7.9/10 means there is hundreds/thousands of people rating it 9/10 and 10/10... it's just sad
Jul 20, 2009 2:29 PM
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at least he acknowledges the repetition at work.
even though i like the idea of what they are trying to do with endless eight, it is just taking way, way too long to wrap up. what should have at most been a three episode arc has been inflated to at least 6. hopefully after this is all over with, the rest of the season makes up for this inflation.
Jul 20, 2009 2:38 PM

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lol.
how ridiculous.
this is going to make history in the anime industry.
and knowing there's still 2 more episodes to go :S:S:S
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raito-kun said:
Loverhina said:

Edit: The quality of anime that is being produced is dropping only because fans continue to say stuff like this "isn't" bad.


Wrong. The quality of anime is dropping because fans criticize well-made shows like this, while praising cheap and bad anime like Umineko.


If i was an idiot i would agree with you, sorry for being harsh but you made a stupid comment. Would you of read the light novel if "eight endless night" repeated throughout 160 pages?

Hell i wouldn't of because i mean from what i have "heard" and "know" it was 30 pages long ... is my math a little off?

1 arc = 30 pages ... this arc = 6 episodes ... yep 180 pages, would you read this shit for 180 pages?

In tems of manga / light novel adaptations this is the worst, even more drawn out than dragon ball . but if idiots like you continue to praise it than it would only give production studios more of a reason to slack off only because they know as long as there is a fan base it would make money.

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I'm still laughing at the people saying they watch this in 3x speed and then dare to put the updates on their lists.


@cryuz. i'm laughing becuase i can watch it in 3x speed and still understand what is going on ... wait forget the speed , i finish episodes in 5 mins and that is including the OP and ED :p
Jul 20, 2009 2:46 PM

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UnknownFact said:
Have you people watched this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqy8x-zKuKw
It's not like its in the OP's post or anything.
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seems like they are saying, "well no matter what the fans would say, they'll watch all the episodes anyway."

i just hope they wont prolong it to 10 eps or more @_@ i really want to know how they solve the problem. or could it be... they want to prolong it until the end of August in real? ._.
Jul 20, 2009 3:44 PM

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They don't reuse material, they are wearing different outfits each time, scenes are from different angles etc. Also, Yuki has new masks. It is still hell to watch though.
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lolita_mistrix said:
I lol'd.

Me too.
Jul 20, 2009 4:48 PM

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Everyone make mistakes C:
Jul 20, 2009 4:51 PM

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So Haruhi + Higurashi = endless hate?


WtF?! Do you really think that both of them should really be considered same? If yes, go kill yourself please...


I think you're quite missing the point. Also, if you'd bothered to look at my profile or list you'd see I haven't even started watching Haruhi2. I'm simply commenting on comments.
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Alipio said:
Everyone make mistakes C:


same here.
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shinigamidono said:
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The stupid part is ... everyone is so annoyed by this arc but it still has like over 8 on MAL ...
You must be blind son, its a 7.9(and still dropping) atm.


considering all the people that are rating it 1/10, for it to still be 7.9/10 means there is hundreds/thousands of people rating it 9/10 and 10/10... it's just sad


You really don't read posts well do you? People have been giving THIS EPISODE in THIS THREAD a 1/5, but have either not changed their score, not rated it, or have been saying "I'm going to drop it by 1 for each new EE ep that comes out from now on" and so far have ended up at 6's and 5's.

So far, there are more of those than 1's, in fact, at the time of this posting, there are only 160 1/10's, here, let me copy/paste it.

10
24.2% (1357 votes)
9
21.7% (1215 votes)
8
22.6% (1266 votes)
7
13.7% (769 votes)
6
6.5% (366 votes)
5
3.5% (197 votes)
4
2.4% (132 votes)
3
1.1% (62 votes)
2
1.4% (78 votes)
1
2.9% (160 votes)

Hm... seems like there are a lot of 10's, 9's and 8's, but there aren't many 1's. It'll probably stay where it is once EE finishes and then change drastically once people rate it at the end of the season.

And does anyone else get the feeling that when EE is finally done and people have nothing to bitch about, they'll just keep bitching about how bad this series is on the basis of EE being in it? Or do you think that it will be forgotten when the awesomeness that is the Disappearance is released?

Discuss.

Jul 20, 2009 5:24 PM

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All I have to say is... Long live the SOS-dan! LOL!
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chinlamp said:

And does anyone else get the feeling that when EE is finally done and people have nothing to bitch about, they'll just keep bitching about how bad this series is on the basis of EE being in it? Or do you think that it will be forgotten when the awesomeness that is the Disappearance is released?

Agreed.
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I like how everyone seems to be hanging on hope. "Oh, when EE is over we know there has to be something better !" Please people, try to keep your expectations lower or you'll just be burned.

Actually, considering there's barely 6 episodes or so to go (if they go by the 13-episodes limit), perhaps they just didn't want to bother animating too much material so they found a perfect excuse to slow down. The different costumes, camera angles and stuff is mostly to keep the illusion that each episode is different. Otherwise they'd reveal themselves as lazy bastards.

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Leon-Gun said:
The different costumes, camera angles and stuff is mostly to keep the illusion that each episode is different. Otherwise they'd reveal themselves as lazy bastards.
What? I dare you to find two identical frames from two different episodes that aren't the OP and the ED. KyoAni/Kadokawa may be trolls and idiots but they're not lazy.
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kuroshiroi said:
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The different costumes, camera angles and stuff is mostly to keep the illusion that each episode is different. Otherwise they'd reveal themselves as lazy bastards.
What? I dare you to find two identical frames from two different episodes that aren't the OP and the ED. KyoAni/Kadokawa may be trolls and idiots but they're not lazy.


ummmm.

I think.

The Plane from ep. 5

and

The clock from ep. 6
Jul 20, 2009 6:37 PM

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Seriously guys stop complaining you whiny bitches! He gave you an apology, and you freak out saying IM NOT ACCEPTING IT!!! They gave you Haruhi season 2, and this is it! Seriously you whiny Haruhiists cant take a break. Dear God!
Jul 20, 2009 6:38 PM

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Finally, an apology for Haruhi being such a shitty anime.
Nice
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Jul 20, 2009 7:25 PM

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I was at the panel he spoke at and I don't remember him saying anything about it. Unless someone asked him about it later or he showed up at another panel
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Haruhi fanboys had it coming.. no need to apologize.. funny thing is, it's so bad this guy is apologizing for it and the retarded fanboys are still rating 10/10 and reviewing it as perfect. lol

Someone's bitter.
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It's amazing how he's a great director in Kannagi, but he was fired yet he knows more than the whole KyoAni staff put together.

But look at the shit he put out when he directed Lucky Star's first four episodes.


..the FIRST FOUR EPISODES?! The entire season pf Lucky Star was crap! Hell, I liked the OVA even more than the entire season.
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Well well
A little too late for apologies I'm afraid...
Jul 20, 2009 7:43 PM
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like it's been 3 years since we had new Haruhi episodes. Keep your rage down and be thankful there is ANY new episodes at all, ok? Geez!
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Leon-Gun said:
I like how everyone seems to be hanging on hope. "Oh, when EE is over we know there has to be something better !" Please people, try to keep your expectations lower or you'll just be burned.

Actually, considering there's barely 6 episodes or so to go (if they go by the 13-episodes limit), perhaps they just didn't want to bother animating too much material so they found a perfect excuse to slow down. The different costumes, camera angles and stuff is mostly to keep the illusion that each episode is different. Otherwise they'd reveal themselves as lazy bastards.
14 episodes I believe, not 13.

If the rest of the second season isn't better (and I don't mean acceptable in that it isn't just "more E8") than they're practically purposely ruining Haruhi. The remaining stories, like the disappearance and snowy mountain syndrome that could be in the second season, are, in my opinion at least, better than almost anything in the first season. I'll just have to keep hoping that things like this don't keep me from seeing things even later on like the dissociation.
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They don't reuse material, they are wearing different outfits each time, scenes are from different angles etc.


LOL! you are SUCH A TOOL!
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keitasama said:
like it's been 3 years since we had new Haruhi episodes. Keep your rage down and be thankful there is ANY new episodes at all, ok? Geez!


See, this is why they get away with it. Because we're supposed to be thankful for a second season. Well why should we be thankful? Why should we bend down and kiss KyoKado's feet for giving us shyt?

I'd rather they have done no second season at all if this was what we had to look forward to.
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chinlamp said:
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The stupid part is ... everyone is so annoyed by this arc but it still has like over 8 on MAL ...
You must be blind son, its a 7.9(and still dropping) atm.


10
24.2% (1357 votes)
9
21.7% (1215 votes)
8
22.6% (1266 votes)
7
13.7% (769 votes)
6
6.5% (366 votes)
5
3.5% (197 votes)
4
2.4% (132 votes)
3
1.1% (62 votes)
2
1.4% (78 votes)
1
2.9% (160 votes)



First of all, no one can seriously give a 10/10 for a show which is not even finished. That would be saying: I did not see it but it's the masterpiece nevertheless. Also the 1/10s are a little off, more like a "hate the fanboys" button then an honest rating.

If you really want to compare how well the series is going to be reviewed, compare it when it's finished, and also consider all the non-votes for people who have dropped the show.
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Konzure said:
chinlamp said:
shinigamidono said:
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The stupid part is ... everyone is so annoyed by this arc but it still has like over 8 on MAL ...
You must be blind son, its a 7.9(and still dropping) atm.


10
24.2% (1357 votes)
9
21.7% (1215 votes)
8
22.6% (1266 votes)
7
13.7% (769 votes)
6
6.5% (366 votes)
5
3.5% (197 votes)
4
2.4% (132 votes)
3
1.1% (62 votes)
2
1.4% (78 votes)
1
2.9% (160 votes)



First of all, no one can seriously give a 10/10 for a show which is not even finished. That would be saying: I did not see it but it's the masterpiece nevertheless. Also the 1/10s are a little off, more like a "hate the fanboys" button then an honest rating.

If you really want to compare how well the series is going to be reviewed, compare it when it's finished, and also consider all the non-votes for people who have dropped the show.



hmm weird.. it's quoting me on a message i didn't write

but on another note.. 1/10 isn't all "fanboy hate button"... half is that, and the other half is the actual fans that feel completely betrayed by the crap being fed to them (in the case of my 1/10 though, it is indeed fanboy hate.. you idiotic pathetic excuse for human beings aka Haruhi fanboys can all go to hell. and yes you are correct before you even say it. i am ONLY trolling this post to make sure you understand how much you are hated)
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like it's been 3 years since we had new Haruhi episodes. Keep your rage down and be thankful there is ANY new episodes at all, ok? Geez!


See, this is why they get away with it. Because we're supposed to be thankful for a second season. Well why should we be thankful? Why should we bend down and kiss KyoKado's feet for giving us shyt?

I'd rather they have done no second season at all if this was what we had to look forward to.
Agreed, we are their costumers. If we don't really stand up and outright call them out when they are being foul, they will try to feed us anything. They aren't thinking on you, just on your money.

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The different costumes, camera angles and stuff is mostly to keep the illusion that each episode is different. Otherwise they'd reveal themselves as lazy bastards.
What? I dare you to find two identical frames from two different episodes that aren't the OP and the ED. KyoAni/Kadokawa may be trolls and idiots but they're not lazy.
Again, they're still making the same overall episode. Maybe I have to concede animation-wise they're not being that lazy, still doesn't change the fact they're re-making the same situation over and over for too long. It's an idea that may go all "hey, they're being rebels and unique !" on some people's heads but in execution it plays a tad more boring.

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Fuck the apology, good job talking bad about a company you're no longer a part of.

The way S2 has been done so far, is how it should be done.


to have fans lose interest?
What fans? Like I give a fuck about other people enjoying or not enjoying Haruhi 2 as long as I can enjoy it which I thoroughly do. :D

Seriously.

Why even bother taking interest in what other people have to say about the arc if they are going to speak negatively about it? If you are enjoying it, that is.

I personally am a huge Haruhi fan and I loved the first season. I'm not enjoying the second season as much as I did the first, but that's still no reason for me to drop it off my list. It's just an arc, meaning it will end eventually. No one said that this would continue on forever...



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Haruhi fanboys had it coming.. no need to apologize.. funny thing is, it's so bad this guy is apologizing for it and the retarded fanboys are still rating 10/10 and reviewing it as perfect. lol

Someone's bitter.
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It's amazing how he's a great director in Kannagi, but he was fired yet he knows more than the whole KyoAni staff put together.

But look at the shit he put out when he directed Lucky Star's first four episodes.


..the FIRST FOUR EPISODES?! The entire season pf Lucky Star was crap! Hell, I liked the OVA even more than the entire season.


i only liked the OVA because it had MMORPG in it . that was pretty funny and intresting
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Yamamoto Yutaka Apologizes For Haruhi 2 Endless Eight Arc[Updated]


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I need to finish my homework.
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I need to finish my homework.


good to know
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Nice of Yamamoto to apologize, but I prefer something like that from an actual KyoAni staff-member. At least there are still other episodes that weren't bad, like Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody. KyoAni is really doing a good job here with scaring of the non-true fanboys of Haruhi.
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Ugh....What a predicament....
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keitasama said:
like it's been 3 years since we had new Haruhi episodes. Keep your rage down and be thankful there is ANY new episodes at all, ok? Geez!
Why, it's not like they're doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. They'll profit from this.
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The funny thing about this is that when this worthless arc in Haruhi 2 is over every single fanboy will turn their frown upside down, forget about the failed attempt at originality and rate this abomination of an anime 10 anyway.
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The funny thing about this is that when this worthless arc in Haruhi 2 is over every single fanboy will turn their frown upside down, forget about the failed attempt at originality and rate this abomination of an anime 10 anyway.


But at least they sponsored haruhi-chan a nice boat, and since they apologized for that as well, it never happened. A spontanous mischief, and of course not something which was planned 6 months in advance... like that nice little useless arc. :D
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Credulous said:
The funny thing about this is that when this worthless arc in Haruhi 2 is over every single fanboy will turn their frown upside down, forget about the failed attempt at originality and rate this abomination of an anime 10 anyway.

Obviously, people take the entire show into account when making a rating. Cowboy Bebop and TTGL both had plenty of weak episodes in their own right.
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Are you using some kind of advanced logic I don't know about? Have you decided to assign new meanings to English words? Are you just intentionally burning a straw man and knowing full well that you're changing the subject and misrepresenting a claim?
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Fail.
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