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WAD1992 said: black1blade said: It's because they can't afford to have the really well animated fights to carry on too long. Maybe it's time so that means the HF movies will have awesome fight scenes. UFO sucking mana from UBW to feed HF. works for me :3 Same for me because I am planning on buying the HF blu rays. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Drake1000 said: m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: Archer, still never fails to surprise. Shirou's skills still suck ass. Man Archer should be the MC of this show. Shirou sucks ! Shinji would make a better protagonist than Shirou. Overall good episode, entertaining action, Rin was so bad lol. 4/5 |
fst said: black1blade said: It's because they can't afford to have the really well animated fights to carry on too long. Maybe it's time so that means the HF movies will have awesome fight scenes. It's not even that. Gay Bulge vs. Raw Ass was way longer than the actual Lancer vs. Archer fight despite being no less budget intensive. The biggest disappointment is actually how short Saber vs Assassin was compared to Archer vs. Caster in the same episode. I mean I suppose there was more exposition to put into that battle and it should be longer but the actual time Saber and Assassin were actually clashing blades was almost ludicrously short by comparison. And it's not like they're saving money animating Caladbolg instead. It isn't about things being budget intensive it's probably more about time. Think about the amount of drawings required for archer vs lancer then thinking about the special effect programming required for the gae bolg vs rho. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
jmcm30 said: It's pretty subtle, but it was already there in the novel.Is that even mentioned at this point in the route? (not counting Fate obviously, it's necessary there for Saber's situation). Fortunately for us, Archer explains it pretty well in his monologue in a couple of episodes. |
black1blade said: fst said: It's not even that. Gay Bulge vs. Raw Ass was way longer than the actual Lancer vs. Archer fight despite being no less budget intensive. The biggest disappointment is actually how short Saber vs Assassin was compared to Archer vs. Caster in the same episode. I mean I suppose there was more exposition to put into that battle and it should be longer but the actual time Saber and Assassin were actually clashing blades was almost ludicrously short by comparison. And it's not like they're saving money animating Caladbolg instead. It isn't about things being budget intensive it's probably more about time. Think about the amount of drawings required for archer vs lancer then thinking about the special effect programming required for the gae bolg vs rho. But they have to do that on top of drawings, and the framerate is similar, with the drawings no less detailed . And Lancer vs. Archer has tones of effects composited on top too. Applying glow, blur, smoke, spark, etc. Actually Rho Aias does have less drawings, I think, but the difference isn't enormous. In terms of man hours required per second of footage (which is effectively budget, even though animators are paid per drawing), they're probably pretty similar. |
TheRefractingOne said: Drake1000 said: Man Archer should be the MC of this show. Shirou sucks ! Shinji would make a better protagonist than Shirou. Overall good episode, entertaining action, Rin was so bad lol. 4/5 As much as I despise the Faker, he is superior to that worm who fancies himself my master. |
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fst said: black1blade said: It isn't about things being budget intensive it's probably more about time. Think about the amount of drawings required for archer vs lancer then thinking about the special effect programming required for the gae bolg vs rho. But they have to do that on top of drawings, and the framerate is similar, with the drawings no less detailed . And Lancer vs. Archer has tones of effects composited on top too. Applying glow, blur, smoke, spark, etc. Actually Rho Aias does have less drawings, I think, but the difference isn't enormous. In terms of man hours required per second of footage (which is effectively budget, even though animators are paid per drawing), they're probably pretty similar. But the animators who do archer vs lancer are probably much more skilled and probably spent quite a while working out the choreography. If that amazing guy (who probably did the fight in episode 0 among all the other amazing fights) is occupied to do that one scene you have to get other people do other stuff. That's why I think the church was kinda meh animation wise because the skill was in animating archer vs lancer. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| I liked that Gae Bolg action. Overall another great episode, but I felt that the battles were a bit rushed. |
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Z4k said: Ass shot at the beginning was unnecessary and did they really have to show the kuzuki's flashback now? Its like Akame ga kill again when they show a character's flashback everytime before they kill them off. Lol the fight between archer and lancer was hyped so much yet it lasted only for 4-5 minute and was completely unsatisfying. Regarding caster and his master, I never cared for the both of them since the first cour so the rest of the episode was pretty much a waste of time. Comments like these are a waste of time, 0 idea of how a narrative works, 0 idea of what actual criticism is. Since when do fights have to be longer than 4-5 minutes? Since when is "it's like akame ga kill again" proper criticism? What does that even mean? Oh they killed someone after a flashback.... um yea and? So what? Explain because I still don't see anything wrong with that. Especially since they've been looking into Kuzuki's ideology and Casters back for at least 3 episodes already. "I never cared for them" ummm so what? Who cares what you cared for? Why should we care that you didn't care for something? Explain. It's like you think "I have an opinion. That automatically means whatever my opinion is, is what people should listen to." Sorry it doesn't work that way. Rule of thumb, if people can say who cares or so what to your criticism, it's not good criticism. |
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CloudStrifeFFVII said: Guys, why is there never ONE episode that we can all agree is great... such an ideal is an impossibility. if you cannot live with those ideals then drown to death carrying them. seriously this ep felt really rushed. that kuzuki flashback didn't do much and could have been spent on the lancer vs archer fight. |
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BanterBus said: God damn. I want more hoodless UFO Caster. That's what Carnival Phantasm is for |
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Mickdrew said: BanterBus said: God damn. I want more hoodless UFO Caster. That's what Carnival Phantasm is for I feel like going back to F/HA and reading all the Caster scenes again. |
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black1blade said: Technically still spoiler because some retards haven't worked it out yet So people are retards for not figuring out something in an anime? Specially an anime that makes a poor job at explaining anything. I already knew so I can't say for myself, but considering they didn't explain shit about heroic spirits, it doesn't really makes sense for anime only viewers. Also it's not like this is good enough to care. |
KamiCity said: Z4k said: Ass shot at the beginning was unnecessary and did they really have to show the kuzuki's flashback now? Its like Akame ga kill again when they show a character's flashback everytime before they kill them off. Lol the fight between archer and lancer was hyped so much yet it lasted only for 4-5 minute and was completely unsatisfying. Regarding caster and his master, I never cared for the both of them since the first cour so the rest of the episode was pretty much a waste of time. Comments like these are a waste of time, 0 idea of how a narrative works, 0 idea of what actual criticism is. Since when do fights have to be longer than 4-5 minutes? Since when is "it's like akame ga kill again" proper criticism? What does that even mean? Oh they killed someone after a flashback.... um yea and? So what? Explain because I still don't see anything wrong with that. Especially since they've been looking into Kuzuki's ideology and Casters back for at least 3 episodes already. "I never cared for them" ummm so what? Who cares what you cared for? Why should we care that you didn't care for something? Explain. It's like you think "I have an opinion. That automatically means whatever my opinion is, is what people should listen to." Sorry it doesn't work that way. Rule of thumb, if people can say who cares or so what to your criticism, it's not good criticism. K |
| It felt like Caster got cast aside after they introduced Gilgamesh since her death didn't feel that impactful :/ wish they would have spent more time building Kuzuki and Casters relationship since it looked very interesting despite Kuzukis stone face and omg his death was so pitiful didn't he deserve something better than that.. Damn Rin's combat skills were awesome, looked exactly like Kirei's he must have taught her well lol. Rin's easily one of my fav female characters of all time! ~ Lancer Archer battle was awesome and Lancer is seriously so strong if the fight had continued it looked like he might had killed Archer altho I'm not sure about what other tricks Archer has. I do wonder about Archers powers, unlimited swords(?) a very strong shield. Perks of being a guardian? XD Hm... and that trace on, only further confirms.. Would love to see Archer go up against Gil that fight would be awesome *__* Wonder who would have won altho I do have a clue.. Enjoyable episode altho it felt a little rushed, cannot wait for next week!!! |
| Man, ufotable really hates Shirou, huh? Oh well, at least we get to see few Archer monologues. Anyways, it's a pretty good episode. Lancer vs Archer was definitely the highlight along with "Trace On!". |
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| Inconsistent power levels are everywhere in this anime. |
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YEEART said: Inconsistent power levels are everywhere in this anime. How exactly? What power levels are you talking about? |
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Mickdrew said: BanterBus said: God damn. I want more hoodless UFO Caster. That's what Carnival Phantasm is for But UFOtable. |
KamiCity said: YEEART said: Inconsistent power levels are everywhere in this anime. How exactly? What power levels are you talking about? Here, I said this in another thread, please explain it: YEEART said: I'm so confused about F/SN power levels. So let me get this right: Lancer is stronger than Saber and Archer right? Episode 5 showed that Lancer destroyed Archer. Saber and Lancer fought on equal terms. So why is it that Casters master utterly rekts Saber, but he gets killed (?) in 2 hits by Archer? It doesn't make sense unless I'm missing something here. |
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YEEART said: Inconsistent power levels are everywhere in this anime. Because it's not power levels but rather Rock-Paper-Scissors with situational contexts. |
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YEEART said: KamiCity said: How exactly? What power levels are you talking about? Here, I said this in another thread, please explain it: YEEART said: I'm so confused about F/SN power levels. So let me get this right: Lancer is stronger than Saber and Archer right? Episode 5 showed that Lancer destroyed Archer. Saber and Lancer fought on equal terms. So why is it that Casters master utterly rekts Saber, but he gets killed (?) in 2 hits by Archer? It doesn't make sense unless I'm missing something here. Caster's master was no longer enhanced by Caster's magic. He's way stronger than a normal human on his own, but he's still no match for a servant w/o Casters help. And as ZeroDragon said, for other servant battles a lot of it is rock paper scissors. |
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nocorras said: YEEART said: Here, I said this in another thread, please explain it: Caster's master was no longer enhanced by Caster's magic. He's way stronger than a normal human on his own, but he's still no match for a servant w/o Casters help. And as ZeroDragon said, for other servant battles a lot of it is rock paper scissors. A nice, simple and effective response. Thank you. |
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BanterBus said: Mickdrew said: That's what Carnival Phantasm is for But UFOtable. Well, then ask them nicely. Maybe they'll agree |
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| tbh, I wouldn't want another studio, not ufo, to do another carnival phantasm-esque thing. |
Mickdrew said: BanterBus said: But UFOtable. Well, then ask them nicely. Maybe they'll agree >ufotable >things we want i don't think those go together. |
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YEEART said: KamiCity said: How exactly? What power levels are you talking about? Here, I said this in another thread, please explain it: YEEART said: I'm so confused about F/SN power levels. So let me get this right: Lancer is stronger than Saber and Archer right? Episode 5 showed that Lancer destroyed Archer. Saber and Lancer fought on equal terms. So why is it that Casters master utterly rekts Saber, but he gets killed (?) in 2 hits by Archer? It doesn't make sense unless I'm missing something here. I answered in little more detail here. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
nocorras said: Caster's master was no longer enhanced by Caster's magic. The shot where they show the "magic sparkles" disappear from Kuzuki's hands was actually well done, it almost made me feel something for him and Caster. It really stood out in the midst of all the ridiculous jumping back and forth in time to try and show the 2 battles happening simultaneously, which is an illusion that is completely destroyed when Caster starts talking for a good 30 seconds, but we hear no background noise signaling that Shirou and Kuzuki exist. |
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| Awesome episode!! I think the Anime rushed a Bit. Gay Bulges vs. Raw Anus!! WHOO!! That was greattt Damn it Archer your Master is Now dead!! I know why Archer is doing this to Kill Shirou and Saber but Damn it, Im hating archer now |
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| WAIT DOES THAT MEAN ASSASSIN IS DEAD OMFG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!??!!!!!! |
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ririchiyomika said: WAIT DOES THAT MEAN ASSASSIN IS DEAD OMFG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!??!!!!!! |
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| Interesting, finally some good fights. |
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ririchiyomika said: WAIT DOES THAT MEAN ASSASSIN IS DEAD OMFG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!??!!!!!! bruh, saber and archer are masterless right now and yet they still exist in the world, assassin should be no different. there are a few more in universe explainations but if ufo isn't trying to adapt the jargon then there is no point in explaining. |
| all other archers pale in comparison. |
Ketuekigami said: HandsomeMan said: 10/10 for ufotable animation. They can turn any average show into an above average anime with their mad skills. Honestly, take away the pretty art and action fights and this show is as mediocre as it gets. Wish the studio would go animate a more worthy series. On the contrary some would say that Fate/Stay Night is too good for UFOtable!.... But not me. Fate series is amazing, UFOtable are doing this anime great, and anyone who can still say that this is a mediocre shounen anime hasn't actually been watching. I've been watching. Give this show deen or studio pierrot animation and it will have a ranking average of 7.30 here on mal. No seriously, just imagine for a second this show without ufotable animation or fight scenes. It becomes average. Not awful, but average. Fate/Zero was a beautiful piece of anime because of likeable main characters, more interesting plot (even though it's similar to be believed on the outside) and same great animation. In fact their animation improved in this show. I really only watch it for the eye candy at this point. |
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| but dat Budget doe gae bolg never looked so pretty |
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HandsomeMan said: Ketuekigami said: On the contrary some would say that Fate/Stay Night is too good for UFOtable!.... But not me. Fate series is amazing, UFOtable are doing this anime great, and anyone who can still say that this is a mediocre shounen anime hasn't actually been watching. I've been watching. Give this show deen or studio pierrot animation and it will have a ranking average of 7.30 here on mal. No seriously, just imagine for a second this show without ufotable animation or fight scenes. It becomes average. Not awful, but average. Fate/Zero was a beautiful piece of anime because of likeable main characters, more interesting plot (even though it's similar to be believed on the outside) and same great animation. In fact their animation improved in this show. I really only watch it for the eye candy at this point. Are you sure about that? Speculation is meaningless, talk about if this studio did this vs that studio is pointless since it doesn't exist. It's counterfactual Plus, don't forget how well known and well loved the visual novel is. Are you sure the adaptation wouldn't still get it's fair amount of hype? The very specific 7.3 rating you are saying it would receive is highly doubtful, sure you can make the argument that it's rating wouldn't be as high.... but still it's mere speculation Here i'll join the speculation game also, if studio Silver Link had made this the rating would be even higher than ufotables. |
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| Archer vs Lancer was awesome. Lancer holding back against Archer the first time they fought. Gae Bolg vs Rho Aias was epic. Rin vs Caster was great. Rin going for straight up close combat attacks. Archer just in time. Bye Bye Caster and Kuzuki. Saber's back. Archer still intend on killing Shirou. "I am the bone of my sword". |
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KamiCity said: HandsomeMan said: I've been watching. Give this show deen or studio pierrot animation and it will have a ranking average of 7.30 here on mal. No seriously, just imagine for a second this show without ufotable animation or fight scenes. It becomes average. Not awful, but average. Fate/Zero was a beautiful piece of anime because of likeable main characters, more interesting plot (even though it's similar to be believed on the outside) and same great animation. In fact their animation improved in this show. I really only watch it for the eye candy at this point. Are you sure about that? Speculation is meaningless, talk about if this studio did this vs that studio is pointless since it doesn't exist. It's counterfactual Plus, don't forget how well known and well loved the visual novel is. Are you sure the adaptation wouldn't still get it's fair amount of hype? The very specific 7.3 rating you are saying it would receive is highly doubtful, sure you can make the argument that it's rating wouldn't be as high.... but still it's mere speculation Here i'll join the speculation game also, if studio Silver Link had made this the rating would be even higher than ufotables. Mate, the show that you fanboy over is not that great. Deal with it. |
| Dem Rin legs. Aw yiss, I'm really looking forward to the next episode. |
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HandsomeMan said: Mate, the show that you fanboy over is not that great. Deal with it. To be fair though, the show that you fanboy over isn't all that great, too. |
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| Archer Vs Lancer was pretty cool but the rest was meh. |
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KamiCity said: Did someone get banned, and create a dummy account? Join date April 11, 2015, and saying the same things fai says? Wait is it Fai? nah man, while i agree with some of cookingpreist points, he has a lot of nitpicks and overall very negative to this adaptation (i don't believe that there is 1 thing he likes about it). I was clinging onto the hope that cour 2 would be as good as i dreamt it would be but the rushing in this ep just killed all the optimism i have for this adaptation. i also believe that what i said is true, there is no point in lecturing someone on nasuverse jargon when the anime itself is hardly explaining any of it and the person doesn't show interest in learning. |
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VarunaBles said: HandsomeMan said: Mate, the show that you fanboy over is not that great. Deal with it. To be fair though, the show that you fanboy over isn't all that great, too. Thing is - I don't fanboy over any show. Keep doing what you're doing though. |
HandsomeMan said: Thing is - I don't fanboy over any show. Keep doing what you're doing though. Uh ok? So, you're leaving? |
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