Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 5 Discussion

aku_haru said:
Mazuurek is a nice guy! Idk why but his hair reminds me of Kakyoin
I have three theories about what's going to happen when the princess wakes up:
1 - She will break Slaine's heart and then he will kill himself
2 - She will break Slaine's heart and then she will kill him
3 - She will break Slaine's heart, he'll activate his badass mode and kill everyone in Earth and Vers www

Knight-Artorias said:
I don't think Seylum activated any Drives I think the Royal family gives activation rights only. can you imagine if all the LS were connected to the half dead Emperor and all of a sudden he dies? that would be pretty much gg xD

Darklight0303 said:


Badass mode? You're mistaking that for his psycho mode. There's not a single badass bone in his body

JamesLeBlanc said:


This is my theory;
She must have activated some cores in her time.
I think the system goes by this;
>they build castles/mech with drives
>had someone with the royal blood activate it.
>had someone to operate it permanently.(but still they cant use it because they dont have activation factor yet)
>those with royal blood will give activation factor to the operator.
>the operator will be one that the drives will 'follow' once he activate the cores by his activation factor.

What i mean is like transfer of 'ownership' from loyal blood to operator by 'activation rights' and by ownership, the,drives will shutdown/reactivate in operator status.

Explains these scenes;
>Hime activated deucalion's drive
>when she almost die when rayet strangles her,,the cores goes shutdown
>inaho saves her and thus giving him half-activation(some random kiss aint enough)
>then hime is saved, only to almost die again in later eps.(deucalion goes shutdown again)
>during that scene where hime is shot, some of her blood splattered in inaho.
>her blood contracted with inaho's, thus giving him full activation factor.
>he was able to reactivate deucalion by that. and without the need of hime

My basis for inaho's case is that particular scene where vertians experimentally try to forcefully give activation rights by other way aside from someone with royal blood giving it. They say that they tried it by getting blood from the royal squad and fusing it with someone's, but that aint enough. but in inaho's case he got a kiss from hime together with blood and maybe that completes the 'activation factor' experiment. and he cant activate(or not able to activate) other castles/mech cores because he already activated deucalion core and its core 'follows' and belongs to him now.

Just imagine, if someone with activation rights can activate a deactivated core(that he doesnt own) freely, why would the other counts doesnt try to retrieve their fallen comrade's castle? and why didnt inaho try his activation powers in mazureek's mech?well maybe because of 'ownership' lol

but slaine's case contradicts that theory lol. i can explain lemrina's transferring tharsis's ownership to slaine, but my comment might be a 'tl;dr' one lol.

feel free to correct my long post :D

Knight-Artorias said:

And from what I understand:
> Royal blood can activate/deactivate any drive
> If Royal blood deactivates a drive royal blood must give permission to once again activate it

but what I want to know is if a Count deactivated his personal kata or LS can he reactivate it? e.g Mazuurek with his kata.

Knight-Artorias said:


If Seylum activated a drive she can't link it to another Count, who ever activates it the drives stays connected to him.

JamesLeBlanc said:


oh so in lemrina's case, she deactivated tharsis's drive so that slaine will have the full rights as its owner when he activates it?

ninjastarforcex said:
and rayet is life, rayet is love, fvk you

seujair31 said:


Real suffering was Leon Garo
the misfortunes and sufferings Leon now, are infinitely greater than Slaine.
Leon is just... suffering. Loses he mother, His father is a bum who spends money on prostitutes, and stole married women had no home, loses his armor, tried to suicide,
Leon despite all the misfortunes and having lost everything, was man enough, recognizing their mistakes, apologizing, and reconhecedo their weaknesses and failures.

totally unlike Slaine, who always had the attention and treatment especias princess, unlike other soldiers, Slaine, who did all wrong, not admitted his guilt, had power-ups, ability to unexplained pilitagen, won a super mecha, a title gentleman given by Saazbaum killed Saazbaum the man who has always been honest with him about his intentions, winning a title of Count. Everything in greater softness in the typical cliche power-ups.
Have Leon Leon already acknowledged their mistakes, apologized, admitted his faults,found a reason to live and a new family, lost everything again, and his new family and his love, murdered by a horror.
Leon started again from scratch, without the damn cliches power-ups that had Slaine.

Inaho_ said:


Inaho is OP? what about a machine that can see into the future?

It is Inaho's fault that Slaine is turning out like this? Pretty sure Slaine is turning out like that, because of his twisted obsession with the princess.

seujair31 said:


found another fanatic friend and Slaine blind.
This User from above looks like you. Think Slaine is God.
Slaine A guy who kill a princess in an induced coma, and is reading fairy tales.
Slaine guy next to Bizon, and Sekai Saionji, they have the major mental disorders, seen in an anime characters.
Slaine guy is totally crazy, in their obsessions

Inugirlz said:


...please explain to me a logical reason why you or ANYONE would like Rayet. She's the prettiest girl, that's about all she's got going for her. And be nice.

Knight-Artorias said:

And from what I understand:
> Royal blood can activate/deactivate any drive
> If Royal blood deactivates a drive royal blood must give permission to once again activate it

Inugirlz said:
TLDR that attempts to justify Slaine's crap

Inugirlz said:


EVERY.SINGLE.ONE. of Inaho's plans have been successful. Yes, he's OP. I like OP characters ...but Inaho is a bit much. Fucking invents some eye that can pretty much allow him to read minds.

Also rather than see the future the machine has super specs that lets it see actions faster than in real time.
And the reason i say its Inaho's fault is because can you imagine how different the series could have been if he had trusted Slaine like he somehow mangages to trust Rayet and the princess? After fully helping him defeat and enemy he betrays Slaine for fear he's an assassin..

deadoptimist said:
And the thread goes on another crusade of who shot first. The 100500th time.

J-YO said:


Good episode. I swear, these forums do a great job in attracting whiny bitches who post the most non-constructive feedback Ive seen. All I see is whaa whaa I don't like this character, or this is similar to this so therefore it sucks. No one is forcing you to watch something especially if you have the decency to write a paragraph rant filled with subjective bullshit. I don't even know why I come to these forums sometimes. These are not discussions forums, they are breeding grounds for whiners.

deadoptimist said:
And the thread goes on another crusade of who shot first. The 100500th time.

Inugirlz said:
...please explain to me a logical reason why you or ANYONE would like Rayet. She's the prettiest girl, that's about all she's got going for her. And be nice.

DrunkenRussian said:
Should of been more Slaine this episode, he's literally the only reason I'm still watching this. He's arguably the one with the most character development across all these episodes, albeit quite shitty one at that. Sad that a bad character provides most of the entertainment value in this show. All his fuckups after fuckups after fuckups have basically made him unredeemable, but at least it makes him more interesting to watch than the all-knowing Inaho who has the emotion capabilities of a toaster (I like his Apple iEye though, gives him an excuse to be clairvoyant).

I'm just wondering if Slaine will actually have a good fight next episode or just go OP and finish it quickly to give more screentime to the rest of the bland characters. I'm hoping this new double-agent count will have some screentime as well, he seems cool, but probably he'll have a few lines and just drop dead.

To be honest they should just fast forward to the end of the war and have the lolimaid serve tea for Inko and that blonde earth girl and call it for K-ON Aldnoah Edition.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
No he agrees with you Kami.........i think.



Wish we could them from their delusional #omginahoshotslaine or #inahobetrayedslaine BULLSHIT.




Ummm why can't someone like a girl who is pretty, has revenge motives for good reasons, knows her own problems and trying to face them rather than running away like our "Dear Slaine-sama".

Also please try to come up with an actual reason for hating Inaho or saying it's his fault..............not delusional bs that goes directly against what happened in the show.

Inugirlz said:




What good reason does she have? She has NO good reason at all! Her father fully planed to have the innocent princess killed to FRAME the earthlings for his own selfish reasons (thus starting a war where MILLIONS of innocents would end up dead). He ended up dead for treating with equally moraless people. Sure she has a right to feel upset: her dad was killed in front of her. But then to turn around and blame all Martians? (Especially considering she IS one)

Inugirlz said:

Knowing your problems but not actually doing anything to change is precisely why Rayet is an annoying bitch. Trying to face her problems? Why because last episode she confesses that she hates herself and realizes she has issues? Tell me ONE thing she's done to actually improve herself other than whine constantly that she hates Martians despite the fact she is one.

Inugirlz said:
She's a huge bigot and racist

Inugirlz said:

Also, now i need to go back and watch the episode Inaho shot Slaine down because I didn't catch the whole part where Slaine fired first. Ugh, wait a way to make the series so lame. And "Dear Slaine-sama"? Bitch please like Slaine deserves a 'sama' or a 'dear' he's a dumbass too.

Raziel1991 said:


Inaho did not invent the cyborg eye though, he just customized the firmware that already came with the said eye. Also he did not betray Slaine. Slaine pointed his turrets at him first and shot first, meaning Inaho just defended himself. And by the way it was outright stated that Tharsis does see into the future. Tharsis is far more powerful than everthing Inaho currently has.

Darklight0303 said:


He betrays slaine my ass. Slaine refused to answer questions and then when Inaho asked him again to answer he pulled the gun on him wiht the wing mounted turrets. Inaho didn't betray Slaine. Slaine bettrayed himself.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


- Helped and protected the Princess till she got on board in episode 11
- She fought with Inaho's group from from the start and helped them multiple times
- She knows her problems and facing it (repeated it because it's a fact, deny it all you want).

So yes she has development and she has done a lot of things till now. But feel free to deny it because of your bias.



Oh boy some new bullshit has appeared. They were sent on Earth, used in the assassination with promises of a Higher standard in Vers and betrayed and killed. Why wouldn't she hate Martians? That makes her a racist........heh. I didn't say they are guilt-free but she knows her problems and she is not running away. Deny it however you like.

Also, now i need to go back and watch the episode Inaho shot Slaine down because I didn't catch the whole part where Slaine fired first. Ugh, wait a way to make the series so lame. And "Dear Slaine-sama"? Bitch please like Slaine deserves a 'sama' or a 'dear' he's a dumbass too.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Please do watch it again because or maybe not because you won't have any actual excuse to hate Inaho. He is annoying to you because of your preference/bias.......so keep at it i guess.

Raziel1991 said:
^^^ So why did not Slaine just answer?

EDIT: I do agree that the whole scene felt forced. I liked the fact that they did not go with the cliche "the two main character join to beat the bad guys" route but it could have been done much better.

Inugirlz said:


...i got the impression he was confused about what was being asked of him. I mean he fully said "what do you mean?" he wanted to understand where Inaho was coming from. Plus theres the idea that if he doesnt answer in the precise way Inaho wants shit can go down.

But regardless of that. Not answering doesn't mean Inaho should have shot him and declare him an enemy. Not answering is not answering. Inaho assumes his answer is bad. He didn't have to answer him. Why is Inaho calling all the shots?

EDIT: Lol that's where i disagree. Maybe its slighly cliche but this series is cliche to begin with. I wanted them to partner up. Or at least come to an understanding. This enemies bullshit is dumb. There's no real reason for it. They're both terrans, both like the princess, both smart, like c'mon why this conflict? Forced is correct.

seujair31 said:


Here's proof, About Episode 7, Inaho acts in self-defense, one that points the first is always the aggressor gun.
  is regrettable that the fanaticism of fanboy of Slaine exceed real events that happened in the anime.
Slaine shoots at minute 21:44. Inaho only shoots at minute 21:45.






Dude you are a fanatic by Slaine, against facts there are no arguments.

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Inugirlz Images, belies all your
children and poor arguments, Inugirlz you nothing but a fanatic that attaches to your delusions before you accuse someone has evidence

Inugirlz said:


My god, just rewatched the scene like 4 times and im still confused but yup looks like Slaine shot first. Goddamn fight scenes are dark and hard to following but ok so i guess Inaho's firing is in self defense. Not gonna deny that anymore. *sigh* fanatic delusions? I see reason. This is a reasonable agrument.

Now then, I fear even bringing up this argument because god knows your just gonna turn it around and say im still just defending Slaine, but rather i would like to form it as a question or a thought to ponder:

Regardless of who shot first. The aggressive conversation before the shooting was almost ENTIRELY constructed by Inaho. It still doesn't answer my above question as to why the situation had to go this route? They just finished helping each other and the only reason it got violent was because Inaho was being a jerk. Am i wrong? Or am i still just defending Slaine because im a fanatic? (that's becoming an awfully annoying argument btw, I'm a Sesshomaru fanatic--fuck Slaine and all these other characters that hardly deserve my time)

Why did Inaho see Slaine as a threat? Slaine was a idiot for firing on Inaho first. No doubt about it. Don't try to kill someone without getting all the facts straight. But in his defense he pretty much was lead to believe Inaho had purposes of exploiting the princess. He pretty much said that with the way he answered him? Or is that too, a poor argument? Slaine's prime objective from the beginning is the princess's wellbeing. Obviously hes going to see Inaho has a threat if he answered him the way he did. Inaho on the other hand...at least from what i'm gathering had no real reason to see Slaine as a threat. He HELPED HIM. But no he starts questioning him (fine, we all question the unknown) but he does it too aggressively and then promotes the aggressiveness by answering the exploitation question in a misleading way.

Inaho didn't handle the situation well. Slaine didn't handle the situation well. They are both retards who could've been allies. EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.

seujair31 said:


I am quoting what I learned when I was army, you have several lecture, in this lecture, teach them to never give the demands of an enemy, out of sight, or within closed or armored vehicles. A soldier is intruded listening to the requirements only when the enemy does not endanger, when it is toltamente rendered, and unarmed, in the event of a terrorist they advise, to tell him to get naked, to see if they have bombs hidden in the body

Inugirlz said:


Um...i hope you know you're talking to a civilian lol and i'm not 100% on what you mean but basically your saying anyone that turns a weapon on you isn't to be spoken to? Only when there is no threat you can talk? Not sure what this is proving tho...

on another note....on your profile. Inaho is one of your top favourite characters? How can you claim that I'm a fanatic blindly defending Slaine when clearly you've already deemed Inaho one of your favourites and therefore the fanatic is you? I.Don't.Love.Any.Of.Them.

You clearly do. There is bias.

seujair31 said:


Because there are no arguments against facts. you did not pay attention in episode 7, and said Inaho shot Slaine, the more you had not seen that Slaine pointed the gun first, and made the shots.
I will try the military approach Manual of enemies in the English version and post for you. Military approach is very rigid, and very different from those made by police.

Inugirlz said:


So me misinterpreting a fact makes me a fanatic? Is that what you're getting at? And i acknowledged Slaine pointed the gun first, what I mixed up was whether Slaine SHOT first.

I still don't see what your military explanation is trying to get at? Inaho is justified for his behaviour because he follows military tactics? (which is strange in it of itself since he wasn't an official soldier like his sister, although throw that out the window, Inaho knows everything)

Darklight0303 said:


I'll give you credit for at least being one of the few to admit the error they made about that episode. Sadly people like yourself in that regard are VERY rare when it comes to Slaine's fanbase. Some of us are just really fed up that we have to point this out every time someone accuses Inaho of being the first one to pull the trigger on Slaine.

Bottom line is Inaho gave Slaine a chance to make it clear that he wasn't a threat. He asked questions. A full on betrayal would have been if Inaho shot him outright at the end of hostilities but it wasn't until he refused to answer and then even activated the flyer's defensive systems at him that he makred Slaine as an enemy for sure.

Inugirlz said:


Thank you. Going by the fact Slaine shot first, there was no betrayal. Inaho had every right to fight back.

I'm just annoyed overall with the fact things went down the way they did.

Inugirlz said:


Thank you. Going by the fact Slaine shot first, there was no betrayal. Inaho had every right to fight back.

I'm just annoyed overall with the fact things went down the way they did.

Grey-Zone said:
Could I make millions if I created a "Reading comprehension for dummies" book? I think not, because most people here don't even seem to bother about such things, but instead shout that everything is bad, because it is not EXACTLY like they wanted it to happen.

JamesLeBlanc said:


how come inaho's been able to reactivate deucalion's drive? is it because it just shutdown?

Maledict said:
I really liked this episode. Didn't expect Inaho to be so good at persuasion, but Mazuurek just needed a little push, anyway. I'm glad that not every Vers count is a complete a-hole, thankfully he now has a spy that may even play a crucial role for rescuing Asseylum. I expected Inaho to expand on why Rayet is different, but hey - if she didn't shoot the guy, then she's definitely changed. I hope Inko won't do anything stupid after seeing Inaho free the prisoner. Lol at those stereotype girls being in awe that Rayet's never been on a diet, now i like her more.

On the other side i still hate everyone on Vers. Slaine talking to Asseylum and equating her to a bird in a cage was interesting. Don't know what that count's got through his head challenging the main character to a duel. The ideal situation is for them both to die, but eh... i guess i'll enjoy Slaine owning him.

I still don't fully get why Inaho is so hellbent on saving the princess, but i'll take it.

4.5/5

Maledict said:


I still don't fully get why Inaho is so hellbent on saving the princess, but i'll take it.

4.5/5

Raziel1991 said:


Inaho did not invent the cyborg eye though, he just customized the firmware that already came with the said eye. Also he did not betray Slaine. Slaine pointed his turrets at him first and shot first, meaning Inaho just defended himself. And by the way it was outright stated that Tharsis does see into the future. Tharsis is far more powerful than everthing Inaho currently has.

Raziel1991 said:
There have been plenty of emotionless girls in anime and most people never had any problems with them, in fact some of them are actually really popular characters but somehow when the emotionless character is male everyone has a problem with him.