Grisaia no Kajitsu Episode 6 Discussion

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Pik3Rob said:

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Maybe because people dont usually buy grenades online...

As oppose to her visual novel counterpart who instead watches porn online, instead of buying weapons. The visual novel is keeping it real.

After everything they skipped about Yumiko's character,I guess they thought:
-Hey why dont we add a line here implying how she watches porn in the VN

Nov 9, 2014 6:11 PM

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LonelyWizard said:

Pik3Rob said:

As oppose to her visual novel counterpart who instead watches porn online, instead of buying weapons. The visual novel is keeping it real.

After everything they skipped about Yumiko's character,I guess they thought:
-Hey why dont we add a line here implying how she watches porn in the VN

Sachi was the one who said it in the visual novel so when Yumiko said she bought the gun online Sachi could have said it there. It would just add to the humor of the scene.

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Nov 9, 2014 6:38 PM

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i felt like this episode was rushed, i'm not saying it was a bad plot or anything but michiru's story was executed so much more professionally while i felt this was a high schooler's project

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Nov 9, 2014 6:51 PM

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Oh my what a beautiful trainwreck this is. I never thought I'd get to see something this unintentionally hilarious unfold before me.

Nov 9, 2014 6:58 PM

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This is the Fall 2014 anime counter reaction to Ufotable's Fate UBW adaptation.

Next episode predictions
Episode 7: F*ck Sachi
Episode 8: Standard Makina buildup
Episode 9: F*ck Makina with garbage original fanfiction ending
Episode 10: Decent Amane buildup
Episode 11: Acceptable backstory sequence / *Rushed Amane ending
Episode 12: Barely satisfying Amane conclusion / *Beach episode (Finale if anime is 12 episodes)
Episode 13: Beach Episode (Finale because 8-Bit are a f*cking joke of a company that has no interest in creating anything spectacular, and would like to end the anime in a pathetic and underwhelming fashion like they had done with IS)

Sigh. And to think having the anime planned before the Visual Novel was even released would create hope that it will be a well thought out adaptation, even if it is f*cking 8-Bit adapting it.

Nov 9, 2014 6:59 PM

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When people say this is rushed.. How generic can you be?x) a vn with multiple routes into a one cour anime, of course its gonna be rushed. Still i enjoyed this ep .i find this route more cliche than michiru's but the anime has directed this one better.

Let me explain why I disliked this episode. It wasn't really the length of it that bothered me. It's more of the fact that her father had emotions. Let me explain the profoundness of what I mean.

Her father was supposed to be emotionless to the point that even after losing everything he had, he couldn't feel anything. When he lost his company at the finale of Yumiko's route, he supposedly went to visit the hospital of where Yumiko's mother died and visited every place that Yumiko has ever been to retrace her path, hoping he would understand something from it. When Yuuji confronted him about this, he tells his past of how he was raised to be nothing but a puppet and carbon copy of his father and how the only thing he knew how to do was do the same.

"He said... "You don't need a self. Become my puppet. Continue my work even after I am gone. He crushed my sense of self. He made me into the perfect puppet. And when the job is finally done, he died. Almost as if he's been waiting for that moment..."

"All that remained of "me" was a flawless copy of that man."

He explained that he hoped that he would have felt something by retracing the path of his wife and daughter.

"Not that I really expected to accomplish something significant... But clinging to the faint hope of at least understanding, I tried to retrace the life those two had led."

But he couldn't feel anything.

"... There was nothing there for me. My wife and daughter were simply gone... I couldn't speak to them, only stare at the void where they'd once been. And most terrible of all, doing so didn't even make me sad... Don't you see? I was raised to believe that all other human beings were worthless trash! That women were tools, objects, toys! And I thought I could understand the emotion of familial love!? Now, after all this time!?"

"I can't... even feel regret..."

And then Yuuji tells him that Yuuji himself was similar to him in the past. That once, he couldn't even grieve for the things he lost, but meeting Yumiko changed that for him. And that Michiaki should live, because no matter what, Yumiko would still see him as her father. And for the first time in his life, Michiaki acted like a father.

"Please... make Yumiko happy... Don't let her end up like me... Give her a happy life as a human being...!"

The fact that he couldn't have this epiphany. That makes me sad. This was the most powerful part of the route, the part when he explains everything about himself and truly finds himself. The anime made it a little too boring. He didn't get to explain himself, didn't get to have these profound words that painted him as a true character rather than a prop. In the anime, he is just the father, thats it. Nothing special about it, no deep meaning behind it. In the game, he represented a character with some depth. They could have put this in the anime IMO.

Nov 9, 2014 7:07 PM

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trannon1 said:

shirozuki said:
When people say this is rushed.. How generic can you be?x) a vn with multiple routes into a one cour anime, of course its gonna be rushed. Still i enjoyed this ep .i find this route more cliche than michiru's but the anime has directed this one better.

Let me explain why I disliked this episode. It wasn't really the length of it that bothered me. It's more of the fact that her father had emotions. Let me explain the profoundness of what I mean.

Her father was supposed to be emotionless to the point that even after losing everything he had, he couldn't feel anything. When he lost his company at the finale of Yumiko's route, he supposedly went to visit the hospital of where Yumiko's mother died and visited every place that Yumiko has ever been to retrace her path, hoping he would understand something from it. When Yuuji confronted him about this, he tells his past of how he was raised to be nothing but a puppet and carbon copy of his father and how the only thing he knew how to do was do the same.

"He said... "You don't need a self. Become my puppet. Continue my work even after I am gone. He crushed my sense of self. He made me into the perfect puppet. And when the job is finally done, he died. Almost as if he's been waiting for that moment..."

"All that remained of "me" was a flawless copy of that man."

He explained that he hoped that he would have felt something by retracing the path of his wife and daughter.

"Not that I really expected to accomplish something significant... But clinging to the faint hope of at least understanding, I tried to retrace the life those two had led."

But he couldn't feel anything.

"... There was nothing there for me. My wife and daughter were simply gone... I couldn't speak to them, only stare at the void where they'd once been. And most terrible of all, doing so didn't even make me sad... Don't you see? I was raised to believe that all other human beings were worthless trash! That women were tools, objects, toys! And I thought I could understand the emotion of familial love!? Now, after all this time!?"

"I can't... even feel regret..."

And then Yuuji tells him that Yuuji himself was similar to him in the past. That once, he couldn't even grieve for the things he lost, but meeting Yumiko changed that for him. And that Michiaki should live, because no matter what, Yumiko would still see him as her father. And for the first time in his life, Michiaki acted like a father.

"Please... make Yumiko happy... Don't let her end up like me... Give her a happy life as a human being...!"

The fact that he couldn't have this epiphany. That makes me sad. This was the most powerful part of the route, the part when he explains everything about himself and truly finds himself. The anime made it a little too boring. He didn't get to explain himself, didn't get to have these profound words that painted him as a true character rather than a prop. In the anime, he is just the father, thats it. Nothing special about it, no deep meaning behind it. In the game, he represented a character with some depth. They could have put this in the anime IMO.

Even the main characters has no depth in the anime and you are complaining because Yumiko's father lacks depth...You are completely right but you should set your priorities right...

Nov 9, 2014 7:16 PM

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for someone who doesnt give a fuck about the VN

this is a solid show just a shame that all of you are pissy bitches in here

Nov 9, 2014 7:19 PM

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LonelyWizard said:

trannon1 said:

Let me explain why I disliked this episode. It wasn't really the length of it that bothered me. It's more of the fact that her father had emotions. Let me explain the profoundness of what I mean.

Her father was supposed to be emotionless to the point that even after losing everything he had, he couldn't feel anything. When he lost his company at the finale of Yumiko's route, he supposedly went to visit the hospital of where Yumiko's mother died and visited every place that Yumiko has ever been to retrace her path, hoping he would understand something from it. When Yuuji confronted him about this, he tells his past of how he was raised to be nothing but a puppet and carbon copy of his father and how the only thing he knew how to do was do the same.

"He said... "You don't need a self. Become my puppet. Continue my work even after I am gone. He crushed my sense of self. He made me into the perfect puppet. And when the job is finally done, he died. Almost as if he's been waiting for that moment..."

"All that remained of "me" was a flawless copy of that man."

He explained that he hoped that he would have felt something by retracing the path of his wife and daughter.

"Not that I really expected to accomplish something significant... But clinging to the faint hope of at least understanding, I tried to retrace the life those two had led."

But he couldn't feel anything.

"... There was nothing there for me. My wife and daughter were simply gone... I couldn't speak to them, only stare at the void where they'd once been. And most terrible of all, doing so didn't even make me sad... Don't you see? I was raised to believe that all other human beings were worthless trash! That women were tools, objects, toys! And I thought I could understand the emotion of familial love!? Now, after all this time!?"

"I can't... even feel regret..."

And then Yuuji tells him that Yuuji himself was similar to him in the past. That once, he couldn't even grieve for the things he lost, but meeting Yumiko changed that for him. And that Michiaki should live, because no matter what, Yumiko would still see him as her father. And for the first time in his life, Michiaki acted like a father.

"Please... make Yumiko happy... Don't let her end up like me... Give her a happy life as a human being...!"

The fact that he couldn't have this epiphany. That makes me sad. This was the most powerful part of the route, the part when he explains everything about himself and truly finds himself. The anime made it a little too boring. He didn't get to explain himself, didn't get to have these profound words that painted him as a true character rather than a prop. In the anime, he is just the father, thats it. Nothing special about it, no deep meaning behind it. In the game, he represented a character with some depth. They could have put this in the anime IMO.

Even the main characters has no depth in the anime and you are complaining because Yumiko's father lacks depth...You are completely right but you should set your priorities right...

Hahaha, you have no idea how bad I wanted to bash the character development. I really liked Michiru's other personality in the game, because she was one of the only characters that could spin circles around Yuuji without breaking a sweat through wordplay alone. That personality was interesting, but the one in the anime was worth ****. Score of 0 when it comes to messing with Yuuji. Score of 0 when it comes to morbidly interesting philosophy on death.

Nov 9, 2014 7:21 PM

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^what facade said

did anyone notice there were no pantie shots in this one? that was p good

Nov 9, 2014 7:22 PM

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facade63 said:
for someone who doesnt give a fuck about the VN

this is a solid show just a shame that all of you are pissy bitches in here

I am sorry, but calling us pissy bitches is really going too far don't you think? I gave a very detailed explanation on why character development was weak in this episode. I do think it is a solid show, but the lack of depth in terms of development makes it weak at the same time. If you can't see that, then you are just a third-rate commentator and shouldn't be on this forum. Go on, explain why it is a solid show and make sure to bring proof other than insults.

And note, I didn't go the usual route of blaming the length of the show or every character, I targeted the one character I think was integral to making this episode shine.

P.S: I find it really strange that despite our conflicting interests, we both like To Aru Majutsu no Index.

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Nov 9, 2014 7:27 PM

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Wow, I'm not even going to complain anymore.
I'm just going to enjoy what I have in front of me, rushed or not.
Yuuji is too based. That is all I have to say for this episode.

Nov 9, 2014 7:50 PM

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Wow all this in ONE episode! There is like zero build up to any of this lol
I did like the grenade scene where the music started playing. They did that well, I'll give them that.

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Nov 9, 2014 7:57 PM

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My expectations were already set to low after giving us Mitcher's route in 2 episodes. As for this episode it was solid I guess but weaker compare to the other route. Well I hope they can cover the rest better.

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Nov 9, 2014 8:07 PM

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Im not quite sure how i feel about this episode...
On one hand Yumiko is my favorite Character so far, and her story was intresting but it was kind of hard to tell what was going on and i could tell it was extreemely rushed.

Nov 9, 2014 8:58 PM

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Aaaannnnd..... no turkey was harmed in making this episode, literally.
For a second there, I failed to recognize this route at all. It's not an adaptation, but a new version of Yumiko's route... for the worse that is.

I'm now afraid on how they'll change Sacchi's route. It's one of my favorite because of its simplicity.

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Nov 9, 2014 9:15 PM

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Much better than VN version of route. Covering everything from flashback to mob attack to final showdown at school in single episode and still making it good and sensible is some great work.

Also, wtf, why people here did expect them adapt "original" when its clearly incompatible with sequels?
Sacchi is going to be solved without *SPOILER* because there are still other routes to do.
Makina is not going to be original too, because there's just no way to proceed to Caprice/Blanc Aile from it.
Its common sense, not "butchering".

Nov 9, 2014 9:24 PM

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Yumiko route. I personally thought this was one of the best episodes but I do wish it wasn't so rushed and wasn't one episode long sucks Yumiko is my favorite so far. Damn it, I hope Grisaia doesn't fully fall apart. I'll be pissed if it brings my FAL team down.

Sachi next. Hopefully it's good :)

Nov 9, 2014 9:41 PM

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I never read the VN... so I can't relate to the other posts! D:

But even so, even I could tell this episode was rushed. I mean, holy crap, this route actually seemed decent, but to put it into one episode? I couldn't even keep up with the emotions that some scenes intended to employ.

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Nov 9, 2014 9:41 PM

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RusAnon said:
Much better than VN version of route. Covering everything from flashback to mob attack to final showdown at school in single episode and still making it good and sensible is some great work.

RusAnon said:
Also, wtf, why people here did expect them adapt "original" when its clearly incompatible with sequels?
Sacchi is going to be solved without *SPOILER* because there are still other routes to do.
Makina is not going to be original too, because there's just no way to proceed to Caprice/Blanc Aile from it.
Its common sense, not "butchering".

I don't really think that people thought that they would adapt the original route completely, but at least were hoping for changes that would change the ending, while still making it seem like they adapted Yumiko's route. What 8bit did had almost zero resemblance to Yumiko's route.

I never expected Sachi's problem to be solved that way in the anime to begin with. They're probably going to blaze right through it considering the ending of the first episode.

I'm sorry, but anybody with common sense would have come up with better scenarios than what we have seen. I'm fine with them changing the routes to make it so that the dilemmas can happen in a way that time doesn't restart, but this is just awful. There are other ways to do this.

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Nov 9, 2014 9:46 PM

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RusAnon said:
Covering everything from flashback to mob attack to final showdown at school in single episode

So you mean the ONLY two things that they kept? Oh and Yuuji beating up 3 guys. All the stuff they cut out, even discounting the romance, killed any amount of reason we had to care about Yumiko or her Father. In the VN you sympathized with him at the end because he was 'broken' and unable to feel, but in the anime he was just a douche until he was forced to care because his daughter died.

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Also, wtf, why people here did expect them adapt "original" when its clearly incompatible with sequels?

Because Yumiko's route could actually work as the last ark if kept the same. But it was completely unexpected this early. And even if they decided to alter it, this was so half assed that many of the readers in this thread have called it comical.

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Nov 9, 2014 9:46 PM

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Well I really thought this episode was amazing! 5/5!

Glad that I am an anime only watcher and never played the game! I actually am enjoying this series!

So glad that I'm not a huge manga reader, because the manga readers WHINE WAY TOO MUCH and have to RUIN every adapted anime for the ANIME ONLY WATCHERS!

Nov 9, 2014 9:47 PM

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RusAnon said:
Much better than VN version of route. Covering everything from flashback to mob attack to final showdown at school in single episode and still making it good and sensible is some great work.

Also, wtf, why people here did expect them adapt "original" when its clearly incompatible with sequels?
Sacchi is going to be solved without *SPOILER* because there are still other routes to do.
Makina is not going to be original too, because there's just no way to proceed to Caprice/Blanc Aile from it.
Its common sense, not "butchering".

There wasnt any reason to cut teh turkey(which was perfect for teh anime anyway) and dat route conclusion felt like a bad joke. It was just ridiculous on so many levels. One of teh most over teh top scenes this year for sure, even Twintails is way moar serious than dat.

Its butcherin' and not common sense to expect zero character development for such over teh top scenes.

And it doesnt really matter if they are adaptin' teh sequels at this point, they missed every opportunity to develop teh characters.

Nov 9, 2014 9:48 PM

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Lots of whining going on here, Yumiko's route kinda sucked anyways so don't really care.

I guess with only 13 episode they are rushing all the routes in order to give Amane's route the most episodes which is fine by me as it was the best by far.

Nov 9, 2014 9:51 PM

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MapoPriest said:
Lots of whining going on here, Yumiko's route kinda sucked anyways so don't really care.

I guess with only 13 episode they are rushing all the routes in order to give Amane's route the most episodes which is fine by me as it was the best by far.

But the problem is to me at least Amane's route does not need more episodes. I actually think that of any route Amane's route is the only one they can actually do decently in around 2 episodes. Maybe 3 if need be. But it looks that it will be getting 4.

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Pik3Rob said:

MapoPriest said:
Lots of whining going on here, Yumiko's route kinda sucked anyways so don't really care.

I guess with only 13 episode they are rushing all the routes in order to give Amane's route the most episodes which is fine by me as it was the best by far.

But the problem is to me at least Amane's route does not need more episodes. I actually think that of any route Amane's route is the only one they can actually do decently in around 2 episodes. Maybe 3 if need be. But it looks that it will be getting 4.

She needs 3 at least. Its essential to slow pace her route to even work. 2 would be enough to summarize it, but it wont help to feel teh situation.
Its possible she will get 4, but most likely not. Episode 13 is 99% surely teh obligatory beach episode and/or sequels build up as season wrap up. Im still expectin' only 2 episodes for amane though...

Nov 9, 2014 10:00 PM

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sanlei said:

RusAnon said:
Much better than VN version of route. Covering everything from flashback to mob attack to final showdown at school in single episode and still making it good and sensible is some great work.

Also, wtf, why people here did expect them adapt "original" when its clearly incompatible with sequels?
Sacchi is going to be solved without *SPOILER* because there are still other routes to do.
Makina is not going to be original too, because there's just no way to proceed to Caprice/Blanc Aile from it.
Its common sense, not "butchering".

There wasnt any reason to cut teh turkey(which was perfect for teh anime anyway) and dat route conclusion felt like a bad joke. It was just ridiculous on so many levels. One of teh most over teh top scenes this year for sure, even Twintails is way moar serious than dat.

Its butcherin' and not common sense to expect zero character development for such over teh top scenes.

And it doesnt really matter if they are adaptin' teh sequels at this point, they missed every opportunity to develop teh characters.

He was obviously baiting,no sane person thinks they had any reason to give this joke to viewers...As you said at least Twintails is being ridiculous intentionally and its supposed to be a comedy show unlike Grisaia...

Nov 9, 2014 10:03 PM

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sanlei said:

Pik3Rob said:

But the problem is to me at least Amane's route does not need more episodes. I actually think that of any route Amane's route is the only one they can actually do decently in around 2 episodes. Maybe 3 if need be. But it looks that it will be getting 4.

She needs 3 at least. Its essential to slow pace her route to even work. 2 would be enough to summarize it, but it wont help to feel teh situation.
Its possible she will get 4, but most likely not. Episode 13 is 99% surely teh obligatory beach episode and/or sequels build up as season wrap up. Im still expectin' only 2 episodes for amane though...

I feel Amane's can be done like this. 1st episode start with Yuuji overhearing people calling Amane cockroach. He approaches Amane about it and then we get into Angelic howl up until

Angelic Howl was actually really slow paced so there isn't a big problem with putting it into 1 and a half episodes as long as it puts enough focus on the important details.

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He was obviously baiting,no sane person thinks they had any reason to give this joke to viewers...As you said at least Twintails is being ridiculous intentionally and its supposed to be a comedy show unlike Grisaia...

Yeah but it still feels moar serious. Thats how bad Grisaia Anime version feels.

(Its even beatin' Samurai Flamenco level, which Twintails didnt even reach yet)...

Nov 9, 2014 10:11 PM

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mfw this fuckin episode's pacing

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Nov 9, 2014 10:14 PM

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Wow such a rushed episode, and it's only one episode for Yumiko, WTF. Honestly, I have a little sympathy towards her, but just one episode for her, isn't likable tbh.

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Pik3Rob said:

sanlei said:

She needs 3 at least. Its essential to slow pace her route to even work. 2 would be enough to summarize it, but it wont help to feel teh situation.
Its possible she will get 4, but most likely not. Episode 13 is 99% surely teh obligatory beach episode and/or sequels build up as season wrap up. Im still expectin' only 2 episodes for amane though...

I feel Amane's can be done like this. 1st episode start with Yuuji overhearing people calling Amane cockroach. He approaches Amane about it and then we get into Angelic howl up until

Angelic Howl was actually really slow paced so there isn't a big problem with putting it into 1 and a half episodes as long as it puts enough focus on the important details.

While yar technically right that its teh easiest summarizable route, it would still feel bad to normal or even fast pace her route.

I know im goin' to hate teh anime version if it goes for 2 episodes.

Nov 9, 2014 10:21 PM

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Ketuekigami said:
Because Yumiko's route could actually work as the last ark if kept the same.

No, it could not, because in Caprice/Blanc Aile timeline (true route) it never happened and could not happen. Caprice starts with Yuuji and heroines still at Mihama and Yuuji seeking promotion at his "job".
Rakuen starts (very minor spoiler)

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RusAnon said:

Ketuekigami said:
Because Yumiko's route could actually work as the last ark if kept the same.

No, it could not, because in Caprice/Blanc Aile timeline (true route) it never happened and could not happen. Caprice starts with Yuuji and heroines still at Mihama and Yuuji seeking promotion at his "job".
Rakuen starts (very minor spoiler)

Do you work at 8bit? So you know as a fact they are animating Meikyuu and/or Rakuen? In fact, they already proved they don't care about whats cannon with this episode.

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CeissaDesiste said:
Well I really thought this episode was amazing! 5/5!

Glad that I am an anime only watcher and never played the game! I actually am enjoying this series!

Then you'd probably love the visual novel even more. ~

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sanlei said:

Pik3Rob said:

I feel Amane's can be done like this. 1st episode start with Yuuji overhearing people calling Amane cockroach. He approaches Amane about it and then we get into Angelic howl up until

Angelic Howl was actually really slow paced so there isn't a big problem with putting it into 1 and a half episodes as long as it puts enough focus on the important details.

While yar technically right that its teh easiest summarizable route, it would still feel bad to normal or even fast pace her route.

I know im goin' to hate teh anime version if it goes for 2 episodes.

I guess I could see how it could benefit from a slower pace that way. But for me while I was playing it the desperation didn't really set in until after Day 7. That was when the pace of the route picked up. Before that the slower pace dragged the route down tremendously. I guess it just depends on when the desperation set in. I guess it didn't set in for me because I really didn't care about any of them. Except maybe Sakurai (dat lavender hair)

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Nov 9, 2014 10:34 PM

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Ketuekigami said:
In fact, they already proved they don't care about whats cannon with this episode.

No, they didn't. Kajitsu Yumiko route is not canon.

Nov 9, 2014 10:37 PM

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RusAnon said:

Ketuekigami said:
In fact, they already proved they don't care about whats cannon with this episode.

No, they didn't. Kajitsu Yumiko route is not canon.

YES,you are right,they actually care,thats why they add all that grenade and stuff(Its a Fuckin sarcasm,in case you wont understand).This one they did is the actual canon route...I believe in god everytime i witness such ignorant people...

Nov 9, 2014 10:38 PM

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RusAnon said:

Ketuekigami said:
In fact, they already proved they don't care about whats cannon with this episode.

No, they didn't. Kajitsu Yumiko route is not canon.

umm, it was in the game, therefore canon. That's how it works. Doesnt matter what the 'main' route is.

wikipedia said:
In fiction, canon is the material accepted as part of the story in an individual fictional universe... while an event from the official source material would be "canon."

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Nov 9, 2014 10:39 PM

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If it's just a 1 episode route for Sachi,

Nov 9, 2014 10:40 PM

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...I don't know what to say... First AgK, and now this...feels like Tokyo Ghoul all over again, hype me up in the first episode, set my expectations crazy-high, then just drop the R bomb in my face, seriously, fuck this.

I'm an anime-only watcher, but the rushing in this was beyond comprehension, did they seriously covered an entire arc in a single episode? Where's Solvite, i need to see his reaction

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Nov 9, 2014 10:41 PM

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LonelyWizard said:
This one they did is the actual canon route.

Yes.

Ketuekigami said:
while an event from the official source material would be "canon."

This adaptation is "official source", ergo its canon by your own definition.

Nov 9, 2014 10:43 PM

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PriestSlayer said:
...I don't know what to say... First AgK, and now this...feels like Tokyo Ghoul all over again, hype me up in the first episode, set my expectations crazy-high, then just drop the R bomb in my face, seriously, fuck this.

I'm an anime-only watcher, but the rushing in this was beyond comprehension, did they seriously covered an entire arc in a single episode? Where's Solvite, i need to see his reaction

He is saying that adaptation is good unless they touch his favorite route...I will enjoy his anguish after they adapt Amane route...

Nov 9, 2014 10:49 PM

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I hate this ep. WHy they cover yumiko route only 1 ep :( Why? WHy.................

Nov 9, 2014 10:53 PM

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Orsonius said:
Pretty rushed.

Besides that I don't understand the mass hate, is there anything they did totally wrong compared to the VN?

I didnt play that.

the anime took the first 10% of the story, and the last 10% of the story

everything in-between was cut out completely, hell the entire main arc of her route was plain non-existent

also they changed those last 10%... drastically... like to a hilarious degree
this was not even worth calling an adaptation, this was pure fanfiction lol

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Nov 9, 2014 10:55 PM

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At least they kept in the part where Yumiko went super saiyan.

Nov 9, 2014 10:59 PM

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That was one of the best bait-and-switch episodes I've seen in anime in a long time.

I went from from WTF?! to shit-eating grin fast. God damn. 5/5

At least this means more Amane~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!

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Nov 9, 2014 11:58 PM

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And it just keeps getting stupider.

Hey guys check out this walther ppk I bought online thats totally believable

Tard dad is tard, I actually started to laugh at how stupid that grenade scene was . wow

Nov 10, 2014 12:07 AM

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Still one of teh most ridiculous scenes ever, its at least unforgetable i suppose.

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