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Oct 18, 2014 5:32 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Saw a few raw pics, also the entire summary of the chapter is out. Raw should be out soon. This chapter was a great buildup chapter.

Here's the full summary for chapter 2 if anyone is interested.

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Oct 18, 2014 5:36 PM
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Torso is Arima Amon
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That kid is 24 years old? LOL.

Anyways, I can't wait to meet this Torso Ghoul either.
Oct 18, 2014 6:49 PM
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Torso has to be either way tsukiyama or amon. I can feel it.

Oct 18, 2014 7:31 PM
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Torso has to be either way tsukiyama or amon. I can feel it.


I cant see Torso being Amon i mean he isn't crazy enough to behead people and play with their bodies. Though i can see him being Tsukiyama i think CCG just doesn't know he is Gourmet thats why his rank is lower than his former S.
Oct 18, 2014 7:32 PM
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A very good chapter.


The only thing that would make sense is if Haise and Ito were products of being cloned(they inherited Kaneki/Hides personalities). If both Hide and Kaneki survived it would the biggest plothole of 2014.

Torso should be Amon, in his case it would make sense he got turned into a Ghoul, he pretty much died as a human being.

Oct 18, 2014 7:51 PM
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Okay, now I really want chapter 3 already! Is it too much to ask for answers? All we've gotten so far are even more questions.

Is Ishida-sensei trolling us with that cover? I hope not.
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Oct 18, 2014 7:53 PM
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A very good chapter.


The only thing that would make sense is if Haise and Ito were products of being cloned(they inherited Kaneki/Hides personalities). If both Hide and Kaneki survived it would the biggest plothole of 2014.

Torso should be Amon, in his case it would make sense he got turned into a Ghoul, he pretty much died as a human being.


No not really if Kaneki survived it would make a lot of sense due to who the author is and about Hide i am not so sure since a lot of people speculate he got eaten though i don't see that happening i feel like Hide and Arima made a deal before hand if you remember you see Hide coming from the sewers V14 and clones really clones if they are clones then it would be stupid and why is ITO a clone as well?
Oct 18, 2014 7:55 PM
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idk why but i got this feeling that Serpent was Yomo.. but i highly doubt it. just that little peek at his face got me feelin the Yomo-vibe.

also why does Hirako look like hes in perpetual shell shock?

Oct 18, 2014 7:57 PM
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The whole idea of clones is stupid to me. It seems like such a cheap way to fit things into a plot, and nothing so far in TG has been cheap.
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The RC levels they were talking about seemed really high, and then Haise's turned out to be much greater than those.. Can't wait for more!
Oct 18, 2014 7:59 PM
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The RC levels they were talking about seemed really high, and then Haise's turned out to be much greater than those.. Can't wait for more!


> spoiler

Haise is actually Kaneki, WHO KNEW.
Oct 18, 2014 8:09 PM
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can't say he isn't kaneki now...
notice how he froze up when mutsuki says BON APPETITE
cough cough tsukiyama bitches

Oct 18, 2014 8:21 PM

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Amon is definitely Serpent, not Torso. A badass S ranked ghoul who's hunting other ghouls? Yeah, sounds like an investigator that we all knew and loved.

Overall awesome chapter. I'm loving all the new characters with some old faces mixed in and I think he's doing an awesome job of getting the story moving again post time skip. So last week if we were at 90% certainty that Sasaki = Kaneki, now we are at 99%. Can't wait for him to start gaining some memories back.

Tokyo Ghoul was definitely a tragedy, stated by Ishida himself which is why our hero had the end that he did. A lot of us speculated that :re might be an "epic" of sorts. If that's the case I think Sasaki/Kaneki is being set up as a hero of sorts with Amon as an anti-hero/tragic hero. Shit's gonna get interesting one way or another.
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CNTRI715 said:
Amon is definitely Serpent, not Torso. A badass S ranked ghoul who's hunting other ghouls? Yeah, sounds like an investigator that we all knew and loved.


Yeah Amon seems to be more in line with what the serpent is doing, he doesn't seem the type to go bat shit like Torso is at the moment.

I have a strong feeling that Tsukiyama is Torso but at the same time he couldn't be so we'll have to see.

^ also good find on the bon appetite and Haise's reaction.
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This Kuramoto has appeared before, he appeared during the battle against the Owl, more precisely it is part of the team that fights Irimi then may dismiss this idea Hide clone.
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Oct 18, 2014 8:32 PM

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CNTRI715 said:
Amon is definitely Serpent, not Torso. A badass S ranked ghoul who's hunting other ghouls? Yeah, sounds like an investigator that we all knew and loved.


Yeah Amon seems to be more in line with what the serpent is doing, he doesn't seem the type to go bat shit like Torso is at the moment.

I have a strong feeling that Tsukiyama is Torso but at the same time he couldn't be so we'll have to see.

^ also good find on the bon appetite and Haise's reaction.


Torso is definitely being set up as the villain for this opening arc. I agree he might in fact be Tsukiyama, mainly going off the picture of Torso at the end of chapter 1. If he is things are going to get really interesting. I'm sure Sasaki and the Quinckes will encounter him by the end of the arc, and if it's Tsukiyama what happens when he recognizes Sasaki/Kaneki? Or at the very least recognizes that "magnifique" scent he loves so much, lol. Confusion and denial from Sasaki? Memories of Tsukiyama coming back?

The whole bon appetit panel definitely seems to be pointing to this.
Oct 18, 2014 8:50 PM

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That was an awesome chapter, my favorite part was when they showed Haise's RC cells in comparison to the quinckes. The part with Kuramoto and Haise talking could be foreshadowing or something, that guy seems way to nice to Kaneki while everyone else hates him.
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More signs of Haise being Kaneki.
I want to see that reveal so bad.

CNTRI715 said:
Amon is definitely Serpent, not Torso. A badass S ranked ghoul who's hunting other ghouls? Yeah, sounds like an investigator that we all knew and loved.


Really liking that somehow Amon is Serpent. Really curious how he would have coped with becoming a ghoul.
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More signs of Haise being Kaneki.
I want to see that reveal so bad.

CNTRI715 said:
Amon is definitely Serpent, not Torso. A badass S ranked ghoul who's hunting other ghouls? Yeah, sounds like an investigator that we all knew and loved.


Really liking that somehow Amon is Serpent. Really curious how he would have coped with becoming a ghoul.


Amon finally gets to understand Kaneki after being a typical CCG asshole.

And yeah I think everyone is keen to see Kaneki back, I think Ishida took the liberty of making "haise" so that Kaneki is actively finding out more while being in CCG as he regains his memories.
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I can tell this series is going to be really good.

Ishida keeps trolling us with signs that Haise might be Kaneki. And now with the theories of Amon and Tsukiyama floating around, it really makes me want to know more.
Oct 18, 2014 10:07 PM

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dammit Ishida, why must you RIP and TEAR the hearts of TG/Kaneki fans! first you (supposedly) kill the main character, hint at a sequel for an entire month! then give us a new main character called Haise Sasaki to which you are just drowning us with hints that he is a brainwashed Kaneki!!!! this is tearing me apart!

8/10 chapter
-Good: more Kaneki hints (RC Level:2743, Bon Appetit-STARE!)
-Good: Akira, still hot and feisty as ever
-Good: set up for the introduction of the new arc
-Good: interesting new villains
-Bad: slow plot progression (not surprising since it's a 20 page weekly manga)
-Bad: no anteiku group (Touka, Nishiki, Hinami... AYATO!), I really wanted to see the new character designs though, oh well I must be patient if I want answers
-Bad: more Kaneki hints ( damn you Ishida for ripping my soul apart)
Oct 18, 2014 10:24 PM

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Damnit these chapters are too short. There's like a 85% chance that Seprent is Amon, the vibe is too strong.

And more proof that Haise = Kaneki yaaayyy
I mean crazy RC levels, can't eat normal food, reluctant to harm ghouls more than necessary AND THE OBSESSION WITH BOOKS

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can't say he isn't kaneki now...
notice how he froze up when mutsuki says BON APPETITE
cough cough tsukiyama bitches



^^^ and freaking this...now I only need him cracking his knuckles and that'll be the seal on it.
Oct 18, 2014 10:36 PM
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Even if it is Kaneki, they made him look um... Lets just say i like his other design better. Looks like a pussy in this manga. He can try look badass as possible but that face won't do good.

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I really like how Serpent could be Amon, but we'll soon see more of him, I'm sure of it. I don't think Tsukiyama could be Torso though. He's way too refined for that, even if he's gone crazy.

More hints that Sasaki = Kaneki. I like it. But I also like Sasaki the way he is, I get the feeling he could be really badass once he sets his mind to it. I also wouldn't mind if it turns out he isn't Kaneki after all, and Ishida has just been trolling us. YA HEAR THAT, ICHIDA? NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BREAK MY HEART INTO A THOUSAND PIECES LIKE YOU DID A MONTH AGO. BRING IT.

Also, there's something weird about Kuramoto. Especially because he already appeared in TG, and now he's back, being all friendly to Sasaki...
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Is Mutsuki a girl or a boy?
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Nice chap. I wonder what that cover was showing? Was it how Ken looks like now? He's not Haise?

Why u so troll Ishida?!!

Loved the RC info and the Mado punch XD

I'm totally for the Serpent = Amon theory.
Oct 18, 2014 11:37 PM

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NOW ISHIDA GIVES US A KID THAT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE HIDE.
WHAT NEXT MAN ?
Oct 19, 2014 12:26 AM
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More hints on Sasaki being Kaneki. Damnit! I bet it'll be just another troll. >.<

That Mado Punch was great! Poor Sasaki.. Well, he kinda did deserve it.

Serpent is taking down other ghouls while searching for Torso? Definitely sounds like something Amon would be up for.

Damn.. Urie's got quite the attitude! He should chill down a bit.

> "The eternal camera girl 'Chie Hori' appears!"
I bet she'll turn out to be a ghoul, just like how Eto played her author side as Sen Takatsuki. But we'll see.

Oct 19, 2014 12:30 AM

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Another great chapter~ I just know this series is gonna be amazing
+We got EVEN more hints that Haise = Kaneki. But poor Haise, that Mado Punch....
lol damn Chie is 24!?
I also agree that Serpent = Amon
Oct 19, 2014 1:02 AM

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HIPSTERMOONCAT said:
When are we gonna get closure on that Black Rabbit?

What kind of closure would you want on the black rabbit? They fucking showed who the black rabbit is. Why did you choose "black rabbit"? It's not like it is anything so very important.
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Even if it is Kaneki, they made him look um... Lets just say i like his other design better. Looks like a pussy in this manga. He can try look badass as possible but that face won't do good.

I agree.
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Is Mutsuki a girl or a boy?


Is a guy, actually quite similar to young Kaneki, very shy.

Also about the cover. I actually think it's Kaneki not long after the fight with Arima. His hair is still quite white and he has a bandage over his eye so I'm assuming it's somwhere between the end of TG and the start of TG:re.
Oct 19, 2014 1:22 AM

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This was an ok chapter. Im still definitely looking forward to meeting Torso and Serpant.
Oct 19, 2014 1:27 AM

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Serpent could be Amon as many people here said. Just look at the shape of his face, it resembles Amon a lot.

Oct 19, 2014 1:31 AM

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I thought Urie was kind of cool, but no, he's just a prick, i think he needs the Ayato treatment.
Oct 19, 2014 1:49 AM
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Arcanix said:
HIPSTERMOONCAT said:
When are we gonna get closure on that Black Rabbit?

What kind of closure would you want on the black rabbit? They fucking showed who the black rabbit is. Why did you choose "black rabbit"? It's not like it is anything so very important.
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Even if it is Kaneki, they made him look um... Lets just say i like his other design better. Looks like a pussy in this manga. He can try look badass as possible but that face won't do good.

I agree.
look, another edgy tokyo fan! XDDDD

kaneki looks like a pussy, can't help it
Oct 19, 2014 2:02 AM

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look, another edgy tokyo fan! XDDDD

kaneki looks like a pussy, can't help it

Funny coming from you.Oh and why do you feel the need to repeat what you said? The bait is weak anyway, i just choose to take it.
Now go ahead and drown in your own stupidity.

I just realized who i am talking with... you have Sakura(the worst character ever made) as a favorite character. Anyway, you are probably a special child and i'm acting like an asshole. I'm sorry.
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ishida is like the tsundere and you guys are the dense harem main character
the tsundere try to express his feelings as much as possible to you but you dont understand shit
i mean....
sasaki is kaneki, btich!
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Will the chapters be published once a week or a month? I can't wait already xd Btw great chapter, i really hope Haise is Kaneki, they look identical ^^
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ScazoN said:
look, another edgy tokyo fan! XDDDD

kaneki looks like a pussy, can't help it

Funny coming from you.Oh and why do you feel the need to repeat what you said? The bait is weak anyway, i just choose to take it.
Now go ahead and drown in your own stupidity.

I just realized who i am talking with... you have Sakura(the worst character ever made) as a favorite character. Anyway, you are probably a special child and i'm acting like an asshole. I'm sorry.
So mad, edgeboy.

I thought i was talking with Part 1 Kaneki for a second, damn son.
Oct 19, 2014 2:45 AM

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Will the chapters be published once a week or a month? I can't wait already xd Btw great chapter, i really hope Haise is Kaneki, they look identical ^^

The chapters come weekly. Have more confidence... of course Haise is Kaneki :P.
Oct 19, 2014 2:51 AM

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So the quinckes can eat normal food if their RC level remains lower than ghouls and it can increase if they use their kagune excessively. Not sure if I read that part right. When I read the part about serpent hunting ghouls I couldn't help but think of the possibility that it could be Amon. That was until I saw this pic though



If you closely the chin looks different so it could be someone else.

Urie seems like an arrogant prick. I hope he gets a good beating by shirazu in the future. And lol I never expected Chie to be 24.
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So the quinckes can eat normal food if their RC level remains lower than ghouls and it can increase if they use their kagune excessively. Not sure if I read that part right.
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about that part.. that wont make sense.. as kaneki have a low RC count on the last tokyo ghoul.. remember him being dragged by mado on the Sensor thing and it didnt alarm..
And he couldnt even eat normal food..

and on this tokyo ghoul re, and chapter 2.. his RC count is 2.7k
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Z4k said:
So the quinckes can eat normal food if their RC level remains lower than ghouls and it can increase if they use their kagune excessively. Not sure if I read that part right.
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about that part.. that wont make sense.. as kaneki have a low RC count on the last tokyo ghoul.. remember him being dragged by mado on the Sensor thing and it didnt alarm..
And he couldnt even eat normal food..

and on this tokyo ghoul re, and chapter 2.. his RC count is 2.7k

Actually we don't know if he had a lower RC count. He was like the first guy to be made a ghoul through that experiment. They probably improved the process so now they can make half ghouls who can eat normal food as long as their Rc level doesn't grow.
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forzsaken said:
Z4k said:
So the quinckes can eat normal food if their RC level remains lower than ghouls and it can increase if they use their kagune excessively. Not sure if I read that part right.
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about that part.. that wont make sense.. as kaneki have a low RC count on the last tokyo ghoul.. remember him being dragged by mado on the Sensor thing and it didnt alarm..
And he couldnt even eat normal food..

and on this tokyo ghoul re, and chapter 2.. his RC count is 2.7k

That could be because he's not a quincke. After reading these 2 chapter I believe these quinckes are completely different than ghouls and the hybrid ones. The reason behind this is because in part 1 it was never mentioned if its possible to lower ones RC level however these quinckes seem to have those capabilities.
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After reading that chapter, cant think of any other possibility ... Sasaki = kaneki (not enough place for books, his reaction when he hears "bon appetite" )
Really wonder who that Torso guy is...

And we have a new character here who looks like kid but 24 years old?!
Oct 19, 2014 4:54 AM

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Ishida is giving way too many hints that Sasaki=Kaneki. It is too obvious (especially with the bon appetite scene in this chapter)
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Ishida is giving way too many hints that Sasaki=Kaneki. It is too obvious (especially with the bon appetite scene in this chapter)

You are talking like he should conceal the fact that Kaneki is Sasaki. Why would he hide that, it's obvious that they are the same person. How does that make it too obvious? Why it should make it not so obvious?
Oct 19, 2014 5:14 AM

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If Amon is either Torso/Serpent, that would make sense that he became a ghoul while Kaneki has the opposite, I guess.

But the heck, is Kaneki the one in the 2nd Page?! Ishida-sensei never fails to troll. Chie is too young to be a 24-year old huehue.
The world shall know the truth soon.
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If Amon is serpent, what would happen if he and Mado met each other again? Because she thinks he's dead, and he's a ghoul now and Mado's a ghoul inspector..
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