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Oct 15, 2013 11:40 PM
#51
Oct 16, 2013 12:13 AM
#52
There isn't really anything wrong with fanservice imo however I just hate it when it's overdone, it kind of takes the novelty away. Also If it's overdone it takes some of the seriousness out of the show for me. delulytric said: >Starts anime with serious plot, gives people impression of perfect anime. >Anime introduces moe/harem/fanservice any shit after certain X episodes. |
Oct 16, 2013 12:50 AM
#53
Oct 16, 2013 3:37 AM
#54
It really doesn't bother me, I don't care if it is there I don't care if it isn't and I won't score an anime lower just because of a lot of fanservice. Well I am going to be watching High school DxD New soon so if I did score lower because of fanservice it would probably get a 1. |
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Oct 16, 2013 3:55 AM
#55
Pathetic, disturbing, stupid, and unnecessary. Excluding To Love Ru. (Motto and Darkness) I liked it. But others? No. |
Oct 16, 2013 4:20 AM
#56
There are a few anime that I don't mind fanservice not one bit: Freezing- Yeah, it is full of fanservice, but somehow that anime assimilated fanservice with it's story, so I don't mind it; HotD- I mean come on. That anime was made for fanservice purpose. If you hate it, don't watch it, simple as that. Characters are attractive, and drawing is hellishly good; Kaze no Stigma- Fanservice here and there, but nothing too much to hate. I hate fanservice with moe characters or something similar to them. Or those oops situations. I mean come on, what are the chances that girl will fall from stairs using big boos as cushions and fall right on your face? |
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Oct 16, 2013 4:45 AM
#57
Oct 16, 2013 5:17 AM
#58
If you don't like fanservice, you're a faggot. If you like it, you're a weaboo who will never get laid in his/her life. Isn't that basically how it is? |
5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
Oct 16, 2013 6:47 AM
#59
Oh yeah, another reason: The Mighty Whitey feels its values are (or at least should be) universal, so they try to impose their morals and ethics on cultures that are different (a word that, in its mind, is interchangeable with "inferior") because the existence of that which are different from themselves creates cognitive dissonance, thus to them opposing social values are a direct challenge, a threat to be wiped out. |
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Oct 16, 2013 8:49 AM
#60
UnculturedWhitey said: Oh yeah, another reason: The Mighty Whitey feels its values are (or at least should be) universal, so they try to impose their morals and ethics on cultures that are different (a word that, in its mind, is interchangeable with "inferior") because the existence of that which are different from themselves creates cognitive dissonance, thus to them opposing social values are a direct challenge, a threat to be wiped out. ok i know we are both speaking english but i have no idea what your talking about |
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Oct 16, 2013 11:59 AM
#61
anders160196 said: Dimitrije1606 said: Way to small :(I mean come on, what are the chances that girl will fall from stairs using big boos as cushions and fall right on your face? Hey, I just took one of usual cases in harem/ecchi anime. Fanservice is way too big to put in just one comment. |
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Oct 16, 2013 12:06 PM
#62
Oct 16, 2013 12:07 PM
#63
For me nothing but it need's to used right.Prime example would be Highschool DxD New in "serious" moments it isn't being serious like Issei fight for big tits for trying to join the enemy because he is perverted as him.Its ecchi/herem and that's what you get it isn't trying to be serious at all. |
Oct 16, 2013 1:39 PM
#64
HalfMetalJacket said: Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. Or something like that. This, it becomes annoying after a while. I think Gurren Laggan had a perfect amount of it while still sticking to other things. FMA Brotherhood pissed me off by adding huge tits on Winrey. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:02 PM
#65
Here's the thing, everywhere I look here people QQ about too much fanservice. Now, don't get me wrong, being sexist isn't a very positive thing (so ideally we'd have more fem-service) but how does a few scenes with fanservice in a show that IS NOT a slice of life or drama genre reduce the rating? For me, the only time I can recall being bothered by fanservice is when I watched a slice of life show about little girls called 'Yama no Susume' (5 minutes an episode, 13 episodes) which was pretty good for the 5min show concept, and then inserted unwanted and unrelated fanservice right at the end of the last episode (which was an 'OVA'). To further explain myself - I can see how it can get annoying if it's excessive and deters from the show's 'feels'. I can also see how it sucks if it takes up time from the show, but from what I've seen most fanservice is either part of the comedic relief (thus not taking time) or taking part during a scene while it doesn't affect the scene itself (recently watched Bakemonogatari and it did this well without taking time from the dialogue). So yea, explain yourselves if you can. And, again, if you're a lady (or gay) and find it sexist - I'm all for making more femservice. Mod Note: Topic merged with previous version. |
rodacOct 14, 2014 10:02 PM
Oct 14, 2014 6:04 PM
#66
IDC about fan service it's just most fan service shows suck cause it detracts from the character. An example is Steph from No Game No Life. The worst character ever invented, her whole point was to be a walking bundle of fan service. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:05 PM
#67
Oct 14, 2014 6:07 PM
#68
hentai_eucli said: There are all kinds of fanservice, but people seem to mind only sexual fanservice. I assumed this was the type the OP was referring to. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:07 PM
#69
Carnival Phantasm is best fan service ever created. Non-stop hilarity and it's just oh so likeable. aka not panty / boob shots but just good content & fun |
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Oct 14, 2014 6:08 PM
#70
FloatsBoats said: IDC about fan service it's just most fan service shows suck cause it detracts from the character. An example is Steph from No Game No Life. The worst character ever invented, her whole point was to be a walking bundle of fan service. I found Jibril even worse than Steph (who acted more like a human than most of the characters in NGNL) |
Oct 14, 2014 6:09 PM
#71
Oct 14, 2014 6:09 PM
#72
FloatsBoats said: hentai_eucli said: There are all kinds of fanservice, but people seem to mind only sexual fanservice. I assumed this was the type the OP was referring to. Yea, sexual fanservice it is. I suppose there ARE other kinds, but that's the popular kind. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:11 PM
#73
There's nothing wrong about it but sometimes people just want to see plot you know, or character development, even if it's just a little, but the show is only good at throwing fanservice at our face, at some point, it gets really frustrating. I've lost the desire to continue watching a show before because of this. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:11 PM
#74
Red_Keys said: Seeing a 12 year old mentally challenged girl's panties isn't really all that exciting. I got out of 7th grade a while ago. That sounds like a very specific kind of Hentai more than fanservice, but I suppose Bakemonogatari is using younger girls (too young?) as well. I don't mind it so long as it's part of the comedic relief or takes place during a scene that's unrelated. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:13 PM
#75
I don't really find it funny. If you laugh at panty shots then I'd hate to imagine how you'd react to seeing a naked female. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:15 PM
#76
Red_Keys said: Seeing a 12 year old mentally challenged girl's panties isn't really all that exciting. I got out of 7th grade a while ago. I doubt that's ever happened. OT: Fanservice is either good or bad, and keep in mind the concept of fanservice is extremely broad as it is. There are also so few if no anime completely devoid of it. The good fanservice is usually not the controlling factor of the show, the bad fanservice overarches itself into a show. It's best to keep it in moderation if anything, since anime is after all serving its fans rather than not attracting an audience at all. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:18 PM
#77
mayukachan said: FloatsBoats said: IDC about fan service it's just most fan service shows suck cause it detracts from the character. An example is Steph from No Game No Life. The worst character ever invented, her whole point was to be a walking bundle of fan service. I found Jibril even worse than Steph (who acted more like a human than most of the characters in NGNL) Ha yeah she was pretty bad. Ooh yay we get to see what the other races are lik- nvm she's just a typical harem member yay... |
Oct 14, 2014 6:20 PM
#78
Fanservice is incredibly broad, but it's not inherently bad and it can't be proven as such. Art is subjective, get over it. |
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Oct 14, 2014 6:23 PM
#79
I agree with red_keys here. Fanservice is so stupid and disgusting. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:24 PM
#80
Fan service exists for no other reason, then the fact directors/studios want anime to sell, without the need to put any effort into the anime at all. How to make a crappy anime step 1: Put ecchi or fan service in it. Now the anime is doomed to be just good at best, and most likely will be far worse. |
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Oct 14, 2014 6:25 PM
#81
NiN10d0h said: I don't really find it funny. If you laugh at panty shots then I'd hate to imagine how you'd react to seeing a naked female. See, I love people that assume too much. Panty shots aren't the funny bit, usually the reaction of the characters around the fact that panties were shown are the funny bit. If you don't find the reactions funny, fine. -- Immahnoob said: Fanservice is incredibly broad, but it's not inherently bad and it can't be proven as such. Art is subjective, get over it. No one is asking for proof, this is a way for me to learn why the hate exists beyond the obvious reason of taking time from the actual show that could be better spent in theory (thus I expanded upon comedic relief and during-dialogue fanservice). |
Oct 14, 2014 6:27 PM
#82
Zoltor said: Fan service exists for no other reason, then the fact directors/studios want anime to sell, without the need to put any effort into the anime at all. Well, to be fair, as the name implies - fanservice is for the fans. People, as a whole, like it or don't mind it. Just that it appears that the more engaged audience (which I assume the people on MAL are) is more inclined to dislike it than the average viewer. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:27 PM
#83
They'll try hard to prove fanservice is inherently bad but it really just goes to general dislike of the concept rather than answering the overarching question "Why is fanservice a bad thing?" It's an open-ended question, it should really be "Tell us why you think fanservice is bad or not in your own words." |
Oct 14, 2014 6:28 PM
#84
Hitori_Majere said: NiN10d0h said: I don't really find it funny. If you laugh at panty shots then I'd hate to imagine how you'd react to seeing a naked female. See, I love people that assume too much. Panty shots aren't the funny bit, usually the reaction of the characters around the fact that panties were shown are the funny bit. If you don't find the reactions funny, fine. -- Immahnoob said: Fanservice is incredibly broad, but it's not inherently bad and it can't be proven as such. Art is subjective, get over it. No one is asking for proof, this is a way for me to learn why the hate exists beyond the obvious reason of taking time from the actual show that could be better spent in theory (thus I expanded upon comedic relief and during-dialogue fanservice). It degrades both the characters, and the story(lmfao that is, if there's even a story to beginwith). |
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Oct 14, 2014 6:28 PM
#85
Didn't Yama no Susume have a bunch of lewd camera angles before the last episode? I vaguely remember a scene where one of the main characters was on the phone with another, and the screen was focus on her crotch the entire time. Is this the right anime? |
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Oct 14, 2014 6:29 PM
#86
PencilSharpener said: Didn't Yama no Susume have a bunch of lewd camera angles before the last episode? I vaguely remember a scene where one of the main characters was on the phone with another, and the screen was focus on her crotch the entire time. Is this the right anime? No |
Oct 14, 2014 6:30 PM
#87
And the Anime SJWs and Armchair Experts have returned from the dead... Whoo! |
Oct 14, 2014 6:30 PM
#88
Fanservice anime exist because a lot of the anime buying power are pathetic, depraved, horny japanese teenager that buy shows with their dick instead of with their brain. It is the lowest form of pandering of any kind, replacing brain thought and actually interesting themes with hur dur boobs panties HOT BUUUYY hnnngng WAIFU By buying shit fanservice anime you are helping the japanese industry be even more shitty than it already is today. Not that it can help, Japanese media is already rotten trash by now. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:31 PM
#89
Hitori_Majere said: Well, to be fair, as the name implies - fanservice is for the fans. People, as a whole, like it or don't mind it. Just that it appears that the more engaged audience (which I assume the people on MAL are) is more inclined to dislike it than the average viewer. You need to ask who these "fans" are that its aimed at. The answer is, pedophiles and 14 year olds. I watch anime for the story, not to wack off 4 times every episode of an anime. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:32 PM
#90
Hitori_Majere said: Zoltor said: Fan service exists for no other reason, then the fact directors/studios want anime to sell, without the need to put any effort into the anime at all. Well, to be fair, as the name implies - fanservice is for the fans. People, as a whole, like it or don't mind it. Just that it appears that the more engaged audience (which I assume the people on MAL are) is more inclined to dislike it than the average viewer. Which I always found funny, because no real fan, would ever in a millions years, want to have their favorite char be degraded like that. It's a stupid title, for a practice no one with more the 2 brain cells to rub together, would ever get enjoyment from it. |
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Oct 14, 2014 6:33 PM
#91
Zoltor said: Hitori_Majere said: Zoltor said: Fan service exists for no other reason, then the fact directors/studios want anime to sell, without the need to put any effort into the anime at all. Well, to be fair, as the name implies - fanservice is for the fans. People, as a whole, like it or don't mind it. Just that it appears that the more engaged audience (which I assume the people on MAL are) is more inclined to dislike it than the average viewer. Which I always found funny, because no real fan, would ever in a millions years, want to have their favorite char be degraded like that. It's a stupid title, for a practice no one with more the 2 brain cells to rub together, would ever get enjoyment from it. But it's not real life. And also liking "fanservice-laced anime" =/= wanting everything to happen there IRL |
Oct 14, 2014 6:34 PM
#92
Imo, anime giveth and fanservice taketh away. The set ups to insert fanservice into an otherwise non-ecchi show always seem to be some brand of tired, predictable, creepy, borderline sexual assault scenarios. It's rare to find a scene where it doesn't seem forced or pointless. Just watch hentai! Then again, fanservice is fulfilling a demand. And that demand is gratuitous titillation. It's really a subjective thing. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:42 PM
#93
Zoltor said: It degrades both the characters, and the story(lmfao that is, if there's even a story to beginwith). What's so degrading about sexual scenes? I suppose it's a matter of morality, and I have none. I don't find sex/sexiness degrading at all. As for all the 'pedo' replies, I guess that is an acceptable reason. I don't mind anything that's a teenager or above showcasing sexiness. It's a very natural part of life (disregarding the forced scenes which usually indeed suck). Hell, it's better off if pedophiles are enjoying anime than real underage porn (not to mention actual rape). |
Oct 14, 2014 6:43 PM
#94
Minute said: Imo, anime giveth and fanservice taketh away. The set ups to insert fanservice into an otherwise non-ecchi show always seem to be some brand of tired, predictable, creepy, borderline sexual assault scenarios. It's rare to find a scene where it doesn't seem forced or pointless. Just watch hentai! Then again, fanservice is fulfilling a demand. And that demand is gratuitous titillation. It's really a subjective thing. Thanks, forced in is bad, I'll agree on that. Then again anime seems to do very little but forced in when it comes to comedy too, and I accept that. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:45 PM
#95
Zoltor said: Sexual fanservice does not necessarily degrade a character. Examples:Which I always found funny, because no real fan, would ever in a millions years, want to have their favorite char be degraded like that. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:45 PM
#96
Hitori_Majere said: Zoltor said: It degrades both the characters, and the story(lmfao that is, if there's even a story to beginwith). What's so degrading about sexual scenes? I suppose it's a matter of morality, and I have none. I don't find sex/sexiness degrading at all. As for all the 'pedo' replies, I guess that is an acceptable reason. I don't mind anything that's a teenager or above showcasing sexiness. It's a very natural part of life (disregarding the forced scenes which usually indeed suck). Hell, it's better off if pedophiles are enjoying anime than real underage porn (not to mention actual rape). I hate IRL porn because it's usually kind of gross to look at physically and emotionally in most circumstances but oh well those are always better because the same people condoning IRL porn hate all sorts of anime fanservice. Double standards are free! But yeah, prudes, prudes, everywhere. They still haven't gotten the fact that some few people on MAL watch for enjoyment and are critical at the exact same time. Like I said, it's better if you keep fanservice limited rather than exaggerated. Of course all fanservice is inherently bad because they said so and only their opinions are facts. But the reality is that they just shouldn't even be watching or god forbid pretend to be watching all of their dropped shows and shows in a certain club's "Relations List" if that's what they're told not to like. I'd rather talk about fanservice on Tumblr, pls. |
Oct 14, 2014 6:47 PM
#97
vongola-undecimo said: Fanservice does'nt bother me that much,it mostly just comes off as pointless.......Key words being that much The kinda fanservice that bugs me is the type type that on top of being pointless feels reeaaallyy forced Most annoying of these being the stupid ass shots In Mech Shows And for the love of all things sane......There's nothing More annoying than Murrue Ramius Stock Footage Fan-Service |
Oct 14, 2014 6:51 PM
#98
Hitori_Majere said: Zoltor said: It degrades both the characters, and the story(lmfao that is, if there's even a story to beginwith). What's so degrading about sexual scenes? I suppose it's a matter of morality, and I have none. I don't find sex/sexiness degrading at all. As for all the 'pedo' replies, I guess that is an acceptable reason. I don't mind anything that's a teenager or above showcasing sexiness. It's a very natural part of life (disregarding the forced scenes which usually indeed suck). Hell, it's better off if pedophiles are enjoying anime than real underage porn (not to mention actual rape). Don't try to change the subject, fanservice does not = a sexual scene, all it is is a bunch of cheese If characters are having sex or whatnot, that's a completely different scenario then the utter POS this topic is meant to discuss. Don't confuse those things. There's nothing redeeming about random panty shots, and crazy over sized breasts bouncing around. Hentai is a hell of a lot more respectable atleast, and it doesn't try to hide what it is. Plus it also has a legitimate purpose. Where fan service, and ecchi is nothing but wannabe hentai, that is used because it can be sold to people under 18. |
ZoltorOct 14, 2014 6:57 PM
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Oct 14, 2014 6:53 PM
#99
People here cant get titties in real life so they get upset and throw a little tantrum when anime flaunts things they'll never be able to get. |
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