Zankyou no Terror Episode 9 Discussion

BurntJelly said:
Wow, that was some romantic bomb defusing!

Terminaato said:

But if you look back on the other episodes with kid-Nine, this kid just looks like him.

Plot twist: that's actually Lisa.

But nah, I think the whole theory is way too farfetched to be true.

BullSmit said:
I really thought this show was going to be good. The very first episode set everything up so well. This show had so much potential, like many others this season, and, like many others this season, has fallen from grace pretty fast.

Five is such a pointless villain. I was, as many I'm sure, interested to see her introduced to the show. She has severely disappointed. Sadistic, playing around with lives and trying to have fun toying with Nine and Twelve for reasons we haven't even been given the slightest clue for (My guess would be because they abandoned her?). This episode at the end she actually focused on the main objective which was getting that nuclear device. So for once, she actually did her job. Good for her.

The one thing I'm still eagerly waiting for, however, and I really would hope we'd get to learn about, is why Five, Nine, and Twelve are all doing what they are doing. We've yet to be given any insight, other then the fact they've been held up in a facility for the younger days of their lives. While the first thing that comes to mind is revenge, I really don't see how that'd tie up properly with them bombing certain locations (or attempting to).

And if there is one thing that has disappointed me, but I guess you could say, isn't necessarily crucial, is the fact there has not been ONE, SINGLE, DEATH. When I think of terrorism, I think that most certainly, people will be killed. And yet, here we are, 9 episodes through, and not a single death. I understand terrorism is to, well, invoke terror into your targets, but I really did go into this expecting people to die.

BRK25 said:


You must have not been paying much attention. Have you seen Episode Five? Or breezed by and not paid attention?

The bombings they've made were in specific locations on selected politicians who were involved in the Rising Peace Academy. They searched to have a Detective(Shibazaki) solve their mysteries and uncover the controversial topic such as child experiments to light. A human being would not disclose these information and feel obligated to release to the public on the disgusting nature.

What was Five's Goal? To take the bomb back. By extreme measures.

Look at it from this angle, in episode 7, she got Lisa caught on a plane with a bomb. To disarm it, Nine and Twelve would have been forced to give themselves in to not blow up a airport or evacuate the airport themselves and have Lisa died. And they'd still be blamed, a lose lose situation

Five didn't planned to have Shibazaki interfere and the look on her face screamed outright anger, ruining her plans. It was effective because it was extreme and Nine and Twelve would have given themselves up to avoid casualties. The bomb as real to show she wasn't playing around.

And why did she has such free reign?

The USA knows about the child experiment. They are using it as blackmail against the country but the actions are becoming more dire. Then there's the fact you have the USA knowing the bomb wasn't plutonium and really a prototype atomic bomb. These news could make Japan be labeled as an abomination not only from the public but also other countries and are trying to avoid a world wide crisis. Added with Five a personal experiment herself, they would have destroyed Japan.

It's all in the lines, or was it too hard to think for yourself and need the information spoon fed? This isn't to be taken hate but the answers are coming with every episode passing by.

As for no deaths, Sphinx made sure to minimize injuries and still spread fear to the public. They weren't wishing to kill anyone.

Shirubaasouru said:


Well, his username explains it all.

Shirubaasouru said:

You must have not been paying much attention. Have you seen Episode Five? Or breezed by and not paid attention?

The bombings they've made were in specific locations on selected politicians who were involved in the Rising Peace Academy. They searched to have a Detective(Shibazaki) solve their mysteries and uncover the controversial topic such as child experiments to light. A human being would not disclose these information and feel obligated to release to the public on the disgusting nature.

Five didn't planned to have Shibazaki interfere and the look on her face screamed outright anger, ruining her plans. It was effective because it was extreme and Nine and Twelve would have given themselves up to avoid casualties. The bomb as real to show she wasn't playing around.

It's all in the lines, or was it too hard to think for yourself and need the information spoon fed? This isn't to be taken hate but the answers are coming with every episode passing by.

geralt said:
Finally an excellent episode again. I didn't like the turn the story took since 5's introduction, but I feel like if the last remaining 2 episodes are as strong as this one (and have such a great ost, too), then it will still have been a great ride in the end.

Chiyousagi said:


Thanx for the effort in debunking.I knew we could compare with previous episode but I got lazy.

Gotta agree that should be nine, but I am honestly surprise. In episode 9, people "recognise" that face I posted as lisa, yet in all previous flashback young nine doesn't give off that lisa vibe.

Take the fence pic for eg, it was a frontal pic, yet I doubt anyone will feel that pic has "lisa" face.

BeatzMe said:


My thoughts exactly. Let's hope it can keep this up.

aiyuu said:
I have kind of mixed feelings. On one hand, Lisa and Twelve are cute I guess - but I don't see them together romantically, I knew that Five would find out about the bomb somehow but I never would have guessed it would be because of a girl. Somehow, I find it a bit cliché and frustrating, after all Nine and Twelve went through.. But I guess I'll have to deal with it - all Lisa is atm is a plot device to move things along other than that - she has no presence or point imo.
A part of me wishes they made Twelve "crack" by other means - a girl is just... anti-climatic. And in the most predictable and overdone way too!

why-so-qwerty said:
I like Lisa cause she's kinda cute... but telling Twelve to leave her when they're on the top of a ferris wheel?

also, 2 episodes left and Five not dead yet.. If this show ends with her happily rejoining with her old friends (just because friendship is magic) I'm gonna give this show 1/10, I swear.

Bayrock said:
I don't understand what you're saying about Five at all however. For one if Five were dead there would be absolutely no antagonist capable of stopping Sphinx resulting in an anticlimactic ending of terrorism. And secondly, I have no clue what 'old friends' you think Five will be reunited with seeing as she was born in the facility with Nine and Twelve, and they're the only surviving children..

why-so-qwerty said:

Five is the one that ruined this show, so what I'm saying is a mere wish she would disappear asap. I'm also pretty sure the anime makers could come up with a better antagonist, cause Five is the worst nightmare in terms of character design.
And by 'old friends' ofc I meant Twelve and Nine cause it seems like the only motivation for whatever crap Five is doing is to rejoin with Nine. I'm afraid she's just butthurt about them leaving her alone.
Let's see how it goes though.

Always-Hungry said:
Five collapsed ?! So that's why the old guy said "They won't live long". Maybe those experimental drugs have side effects which cause brain disease.

BRK25 said:
There's no preview and maybe that's the breaking point, no more can be brought. Surprisingly, I've watched a video describing anime and the producers.

MAppa was created after the head director or producer was disgusted by needing to make adaptions and first thing he did was work with Watanabe, the same man he worked with since Cowboy Bebop invention. He openly gave Watanae the budget an said spend it, even if it is lottery/hollywood budget by anime standards.

I do hope the last two episodes get far more personal and things become darker. I don't like the grey clouds around Five.

pakoko said:

Lol indeed in terms of art and animation ZnT trumps the competition. Now I see why MAPPA has two new original series upcoming in the fall, although they both look subpar as of now.

Yeah I really hope the show ends well, and I don't necessarily mean a happy ending. I'm prepared for whatever Watanabe has in store for the ending, so I'm just eagerly waiting for the finale to come.


LEEEEEEEEERROOOYYYYYYYYYYY JEEEEEEENNKINNSSSSS~~~~~!!!!!!!

BigSimo said:
WATANABE......WHAT ARE YOU DOING

it seems as if with each new project his maturity lessens. This show has played out like a soap opera, especially that laughably over dramatic scene in the ferris wheel.
The voice acting is wildly inconsistent, the exposition clunky, and Lisa's character should not exist in the first place.

BRK25 said:




Another one. I don't care, just rate it a one if its so trashy or unrealistic with flaws cause you seem hell bent on nitpicking the milliseconds going on of pictures moving together. Rather than take holism where you see how everything makes up the picture, we must deconstruct the things building the scene and blow it the fuck up.

BigSimo said:

rather than attacking ME for criticizing the show, show some maturity (heh) and respond to my complaints. i feel my issues with the show are valid and i have the right to express my feelings toward this show, or any show, whether positive or negative - wouldn't you agree?

MajorZero said:
Damn, defenders of the show become more aggressive with each day. Apparently civilized conversations impossible around here. If guy didn't wrote a friggin' essay on subject = he has no right to write about what frustrated him at all. But if, god forbid, he wrote something less than an article in a scientific magazine he should be treated like crap. You guys are awesome, no, seriously.

BRK25 said:
Think of it as this.

The show sucks teehee.

Um....what? You'd get dismissed when you mix in with the haters. I love to argue with those that bring up points but when they write a show off in five seconds as a soap opera without elaborating, I WILL WRITE YOU OFF.

Criticism is fine, flaming is not if no effort is placed in support.

MajorZero said:

Damn, defenders of the show become more aggressive with each day. Apparently civilized conversations impossible around here. If guy didn't wrote a friggin' essay on subject = he has no right to write about what frustrated him at all. But if, god forbid, he wrote something less than an article in a scientific magazine he should be treated like crap. You guys are awesome, no, seriously.

He doesn't need to elaborate anything, it's his subjective opinion on shows quality, if people can't deal with it it's just shows either their own insecurity or age. Now, if he'd wrote something among the lines "I know better!!1 Y'all retarded!!!" I would understand this kind of reaction.