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Sep 9, 2014 7:40 PM
#101
Yeah, but he isn't planning on using her powers anymore right? |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Sep 9, 2014 7:45 PM
#102
Good episode. The Alluka part was emotional so it didn't bother me like it did in the manga. Ging was hilarious but next episode is his best moment~ Pariston just wanted to play with Netero and the association one last time, Ging didn't think things through apparently. XD insan3soldiern said: What does Viz's translation do with Nanika's name? Pretty sure I've asked this before, but I don't remember what the answer was. It's Nanika in the Viz's translation. We have 2 episodes and 3 chapters left, maybe the last episode will have some stuff from the Dark Continent Arc. |
Sep 9, 2014 8:08 PM
#103
Hated him in the beginning of arc but damn has Pariston become a better and better character per episode |
Sep 9, 2014 8:17 PM
#104
Sep 9, 2014 8:35 PM
#106
Great episode, the interaction between Gon and Ging + the crowd was hilarious to watch. Madhouse did an amazing job handling the 2nd half, I didn't really care much about it while reading it in the manga, well done Madhouse, you made me cry again ;__; |
Sep 9, 2014 8:53 PM
#107
RagingMan said: Well the Gon and Ging Reunion was... anticlimactic. Haha, what's cool is how original it was. Most shounens make first meetings like that super special or dramatic, Togashi doesn't do that. Who would have thought Gon would meet his father like that? |
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Sep 9, 2014 9:15 PM
#108
insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. |
Sep 9, 2014 9:34 PM
#109
TripleSRank said: Yeah. Isn't it a little strange that back in the Chimera Ant arc Killua didn't just go back home and ask Something to kill Meruem? Or all of the royal guards? The only thing preventing him from seeing/remembering Alluka was Illumi's needile right? He should have remembered as soon as he pulled it out. Not really a plot hole, but still rather strange. As far as we know Alluka is even more powerful than the Dragon Balls.insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. |
Sep 9, 2014 9:36 PM
#110
Sep 9, 2014 9:43 PM
#111
Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: Yeah. Isn't it a little strange that back in the Chimera Ant arc Killua didn't just go back home and ask Something to kill Meruem? Or all of the royal guards? The only thing preventing him from seeing/remembering Alluka was Illumi's needile right? He should have remembered as soon as he pulled it out. Not really a plot hole, but still rather strange. As far as we know Alluka is even more powerful than the Dragon Balls.insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. |
Sep 9, 2014 9:46 PM
#112
Not enough people are talking about Pariston, king of the trolls. The trolliest troll that has ever trolled. Lol @ the moment with Ging. I still don't like Alluka's power (I love this anime but it seems like an asspull since it was introduced), it definitely caused a good arc though and I can't deny that she is cute too. I was close to crying at the end with a series of d'awws. I wonder what will happen with her later cause her power is way too OP. |
"Listen Simon... Don't forget. Believe in yourself. Not in the you who believes in me. Not the me who believes in you. Believe in the you who believes in yourself." ~ Kamina (TTGL) “You should enjoy the little detours. To the fullest. Because that’s where you’ll find the things more important than what you want.” ~ Ging (HxH) |
Sep 9, 2014 9:50 PM
#113
Gon finally gets to meet Ging. Lol at everyone calling him a bad father and Ging wanting to fight everyone. Pariston becomes chairman and then quits. LOL. Love the moments with Killuia, Alluka and Something. Cannot wait for next week. Gon and Killuia get to meet again. 2 more episodes to go. |
Sep 9, 2014 9:51 PM
#114
@ TripleSRank Not really much to say about that, I'm honestly not too big on speculation though I can't help but have a nagging feeling that Killua hasn't been honest to his family regarding how the restrictions apply to him. I remember him saying something to the effect of "if my family knew the last rule, they would never let me go" in one of the past episodes. Though I guess that may have something to do with what Illumi figured out this episode. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Sep 9, 2014 9:53 PM
#115
jreginald said: Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. As if Killua would do something like that in the first place . If it's free risk, someone like Illumi would do that, but Killua not. That's why Morel said it will be dangerous if Nanika fall into a bastard hands, and Killua not someone like that. Nanika is OP, but Nanika will not use her/his ability for her own gain. It's all now for Killua, but Killua intending that it was his final order/wish. On another note, it's true Nanika's "ability" is overpowered as hell. It may be annoyed for some people who only watch the anime only which is understandable. But this is will be carried out to the next arc, just little spoiler. Nanika is "something from another place" you know, if you know what i mean. Just look on Chimera Ants incident, you will know it. Then again, Alluka is normal child. Her own self supposedly can be killed easily if someone wanted it to. Because she was being protected and almost no one know about her that something like that doesn't happen. |
Sep 9, 2014 10:41 PM
#116
cantius said: Kefkiroth said: Of course Parriston gives up chairmanship at the last second. Not sure if it's just me, but I find Cheadle somewhat obnoxious for some reason. It was satisfying seeing her get defeated like that. Yeah. She's annoying It's the voice, I think. She never bothered me in the manga. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Sep 9, 2014 10:52 PM
#117
Ging acted so Yusuke-like when he said he would punch everybody (and he did it)... too bad, cuz I love Yusuke but I just wanna punch Ging till he forget his own name. I love Alluka/Nanika so that scene broke my heart in a million pieces... first time we saw little Alluka angry :o anyway... it's 1:52am in my country. can't say anything |
Sep 9, 2014 11:09 PM
#118
This episode was definitely a little sad seeing Alluka cry like that... I didn't think Something was that linked to her. I have to admit, Ging's reunion with Gon was perfectly executed. It wasn't over the top, it was realistic. I thought Gon would probably start by bringing up the fact that Kite is now a little girl lol. I wonder what that nen power he used was, isn't that essentially resurrection? Too OP lel. |
Sep 9, 2014 11:23 PM
#119
Mawwww, Killua and Alluka/Nanika hugz Who are the other characters again? /shrug |
Sep 9, 2014 11:25 PM
#120
Mikaze said: This episode was definitely a little sad seeing Alluka cry like that... I didn't think Something was that linked to her. I have to admit, Ging's reunion with Gon was perfectly executed. It wasn't over the top, it was realistic. I thought Gon would probably start by bringing up the fact that Kite is now a little girl lol. I wonder what that nen power he used was, isn't that essentially resurrection? Too OP lel. In the manga, Ging said that Kite's Crazy Pierrot has one ability called "How could i die like this". But they didn't know how it actually works or something like that. If it was that magical staff ability, maybe it was really a good spin after all. |
FlashofthebackSep 9, 2014 11:31 PM
Sep 10, 2014 12:05 AM
#121
the last rule was really simple you like some one , respect some one , you do favors for them . favors are free . it makes us humane . alluka is not a wish granting beast ! she is begging killua to be that person . you don't need complex thoughts to understand alluka's rules . the exception of last rule is so simple , so humane that it reflects appropriately the simplicity in togashi's complexity . brilliant stuff ! you need to be kind . kind towards both alluka and nanika .in the end that's what a human being wants despite how much of a dangerous being he is ... another thing that was really impressive was the subtle messege that togashi left in this episode . when you see pariston doing everything and leaving the chairman's position in the end just for the sake of fun, you clearly get the message . its not the result / aim , its the journey towards aim that matters . interesting to say togashi did the exact same thing with gon in this episode . he made gon meet ging out of blue where everyone thought that was the end goal of gon and this series . togashi broke the notion of typical shonen hero's ultimate aim and wrapped it beautifully midway .and we can't deny we had fun all the way to the end with that , its finally the end . we will see the " golden chapter " animate next week . at last ! it will be amazing to see the brilliant ending montage that was the chapter ! |
Sep 10, 2014 12:06 AM
#122
One thing which bothers me is that last several eps they spend quite a bit of time on cryptic discussions of Nanika's operating manual, how (s)he sleeps, and how Killua had some genius plan to... well, solve it once and for all. Somehow. This ep it all was washed down the drain by the stream of feelz and tears (masterfully executed, but still...). The whole brilliant plan was an order "don't come out again", Nanika doesn't sleep, rules don't apply to Killua, etc. That said, still great show. Pariston! It's amazing how they managed to turn him from some weird semi-villain into deep character. After this episode I can see why Netero would have him as vice-president. |
ElfsterSep 10, 2014 12:50 AM
Sep 10, 2014 12:09 AM
#123
Nanika (alter ego of Alluka) is the girl that Killua is referring too |
Sep 10, 2014 12:16 AM
#124
Damn my eyes are teary watching this episodes. Hunter x Feels Gon x Gin Pariston Alluka x Nanika x Killua |
Sep 10, 2014 12:19 AM
#125
Flashoftheback said: Mikaze said: This episode was definitely a little sad seeing Alluka cry like that... I didn't think Something was that linked to her. I have to admit, Ging's reunion with Gon was perfectly executed. It wasn't over the top, it was realistic. I thought Gon would probably start by bringing up the fact that Kite is now a little girl lol. I wonder what that nen power he used was, isn't that essentially resurrection? Too OP lel. In the manga, Ging said that Kite's Crazy Pierrot has one ability called "How could i die like this". But they didn't know how it actually works or something like that. If it was that magical staff ability, maybe it was really a good spin after all. "how could i die like this" somehow this feels very kiteish |
Sep 10, 2014 12:36 AM
#126
headless_nick said: with that , its finally the end . we will see the " golden chapter " animate next week . at last ! it will be amazing to see the brilliant ending montage that was the chapter ! The montage shouldn't be until episode 148, should it? |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Sep 10, 2014 1:11 AM
#127
The montage shouldn't be until episode 148, should it?[/quote] if they animate next 3 chapters on 147 then yes it would be the last episode . besides they actually said 147 is the final episode and 148 may work as the prologue for the next arc . source is provided here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-17/megumi-han-hunter-x-hunter-anime-to-end-at-episode-148/.77699 so consider 147 the apparent ending episode for HxH 2011. though they might work with their chapter structure as they did before ... lets see what happens . |
Sep 10, 2014 1:57 AM
#128
Does this mean no more fabulous Pariston suits? |
Sep 10, 2014 2:24 AM
#129
Killua and alluka's scene almost had me in tears ;____; can i have a big brother like killua plz ;----; <3333 |
Sep 10, 2014 2:30 AM
#130
Sep 10, 2014 2:37 AM
#131
headless_nick said: if they animate next 3 chapters on 147 then yes it would be the last episode . besides they actually said 147 is the final episode and 148 may work as the prologue for the next arc . source is provided here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-17/megumi-han-hunter-x-hunter-anime-to-end-at-episode-148/.77699 so consider 147 the apparent ending episode for HxH 2011. though they might work with their chapter structure as they did before ... lets see what happens . If the montage is in 148, then that is already a perfect place to end it. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Sep 10, 2014 2:52 AM
#132
headless_nick said: The montage shouldn't be until episode 148, should it? if they animate next 3 chapters on 147 then yes it would be the last episode . besides they actually said 147 is the final episode and 148 may work as the prologue for the next arc . source is provided here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-17/megumi-han-hunter-x-hunter-anime-to-end-at-episode-148/.77699 so consider 147 the apparent ending episode for HxH 2011. though they might work with their chapter structure as they did before ... lets see what happens . I personally wouldn't like this. I mean, just let the series end with the montage and give her a TRUE ending, why do you have to ruin everything by showing the beginning of a new arc and stop the anime right after? It would be just a way to tell people "Go read the manga" and I don't like the idea, Hunter x Hunter anime should be different from the other commercial shounen anime. I really hope Madhouse does not animate chapter 340. |
ValeBreckSep 10, 2014 3:01 AM
Sep 10, 2014 2:59 AM
#133
When Something cried because Killua ordered her to never come out again... it broke my frail heart man.. and that "`Kay" of her? I used to think that's creepy but knowing I'll never hear that again somehow made me feel empty... dammit. Gon and Ging's reunion is nothing compared to that. ............................................... and then Something came back only to make me feel like a stupid crying little bitch. |
Sep 10, 2014 3:09 AM
#134
best shounen!. 5/5 god Hunter X hunter !!! god damn not even a single 1/5 vote yet ftw! |
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Sep 10, 2014 3:14 AM
#135
Stark700 said: Hunter x Feels For some reason Something's eyes look way too cute. |
Sep 10, 2014 4:22 AM
#136
Well, that seems about right. Gon meeting Ging and the first thing he says was about Kite. And Ging getting scolded by everybody was really fun to watch xD Kinda sad about Pariston though. He was a Vice-Chairman to screw Netero, but Netero always laughed, and Pariston really like it. "I really want to play with him some more." That's just sad :'( That scene between Killua, Alluka, and Something was really emotional. " I love Killua" "You can't come out anymore". Really glad it was a happy ending, or I can't sleep at night. |
Sep 10, 2014 5:19 AM
#137
ValeBreck said: headless_nick said: The montage shouldn't be until episode 148, should it? if they animate next 3 chapters on 147 then yes it would be the last episode . besides they actually said 147 is the final episode and 148 may work as the prologue for the next arc . source is provided here http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-17/megumi-han-hunter-x-hunter-anime-to-end-at-episode-148/.77699 so consider 147 the apparent ending episode for HxH 2011. though they might work with their chapter structure as they did before ... lets see what happens . I personally wouldn't like this. I mean, just let the series end with the montage and give her a TRUE ending, why do you have to ruin everything by showing the beginning of a new arc and stop the anime right after? It would be just a way to tell people "Go read the manga" and I don't like the idea, Hunter x Hunter anime should be different from the other commercial shounen anime. I really hope Madhouse does not animate chapter 340. I don't see why it would ruin everything. If anything, it would be a way to tell that "Hunter x Hunter anime is not dead. We will definitely continue it some times later, so stay tuned." |
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Sep 10, 2014 5:23 AM
#138
Solid episode.I love Ging's Takamura side and Pariston is so entertaining to watch. |
Sep 10, 2014 5:34 AM
#139
Stark700 said: Hunter x Feels *Lie down* *Try not to cry* *Cry a lot* |
Sep 10, 2014 5:42 AM
#140
It was abit feelsy with Nanika. Illumi seems to be making the scariest of faces. Hisoka where art thou? Paristroll was quite cool in this episode too. |
Sep 10, 2014 5:46 AM
#141
Need more Pariston :/. Hisoka has yet to show up again, too. And dat scene between Killua, Alluka and Nanika. Just "Amore! Heartbreake! No kidding!" But as much as I'd love Alluka to be able to stay by Killua's side, I don't see how that'd be possible. He's just far too strong and would take away any sense of danger and suspense from coming arcs. I just hope he won't have to die. Please, make it somehow work, Togashi. |
Sep 10, 2014 5:46 AM
#142
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE.Crying Nanika :((( Killua's such a nice oniichan :((( Huhuhuhu. MY TEARS :(( |
Sep 10, 2014 5:56 AM
#143
jreginald said: There should've been nothing wrong with him visiting her and asking to get rid of the chimaera's... the only reason kilua had to go through all those conditions with the hospital was because she needs to be there in person to heal someone. She can kill anyone from the room though presumably.Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. There's just so much room for the story to get fucked up with such an OP ability.. People will ask themselves things like "why didn't he make x wish... would've saved a lot of trouble and made much more sense" and stuff like that. Hell I already got one - why didn't killua pre-arrange the private extra hospital beforehand and just teleport there with her ability? |
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Sep 10, 2014 5:56 AM
#144
i bet that those two who voted 1/5 are the same on episode 145 XD |
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Sep 10, 2014 6:36 AM
#146
DerpHole said: jreginald said: Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: Yeah. Isn't it a little strange that back in the Chimera Ant arc Killua didn't just go back home and ask Something to kill Meruem? Or all of the royal guards? The only thing preventing him from seeing/remembering Alluka was Illumi's needile right? He should have remembered as soon as he pulled it out. Not really a plot hole, but still rather strange. As far as we know Alluka is even more powerful than the Dragon Balls.insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. There's just so much room for the story to get fucked up with such an OP ability.. People will ask themselves things like "why didn't he make x wish... would've saved a lot of trouble and made much more sense" and stuff like that. Hell I already got one - why didn't killua pre-arrange the private extra hospital beforehand and just teleport there with her ability? I'm pretty sure Killua didn't remember Alluka for most of the Chimera Ants arc due to Illumi's brainwashing, as he later noted when visiting her. Also, why'd he risk revealing the possibility of exploiting Alluka's abilities 'so easily' and exposing her to the danger the rest of the Zoldycks' thirst for power would pose. He obviously only resorted to that last hope once there was no other means of saving Gon, his best friend and most important person (next to Alluka?). And even once he decided to use her power, he obviously tried to hide his secret concerning Alluka from the others for as long as possible, which made teleporting to Gon from the start needlessly risky as that would only increase their family's suspicion. Better safe than sorry. If something went wrong and he'd have no other choice left (as for example after being cornered by Illumi) he could still resort to using Alluka's power to reach Gon. IMO, he just tried saving Gon while keeping Alluka out of harm's way. He eventually failed and they now know anyway, but he at least tried. |
Sep 10, 2014 6:56 AM
#147
ging has showing its ability when hitting most of voters. XD |
Sep 10, 2014 7:02 AM
#148
DerpHole said: jreginald said: Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: Yeah. Isn't it a little strange that back in the Chimera Ant arc Killua didn't just go back home and ask Something to kill Meruem? Or all of the royal guards? The only thing preventing him from seeing/remembering Alluka was Illumi's needile right? He should have remembered as soon as he pulled it out. Not really a plot hole, but still rather strange. As far as we know Alluka is even more powerful than the Dragon Balls.insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. There's just so much room for the story to get fucked up with such an OP ability.. People will ask themselves things like "why didn't he make x wish... would've saved a lot of trouble and made much more sense" and stuff like that. Hell I already got one - why didn't killua pre-arrange the private extra hospital beforehand and just teleport there with her ability? Alluka is a last resort. The Hunters already had a plan to deal with the CA's, there was no need for Alluka. All your "what if's" can easily be refuted by the fact that Alluka is heavily guarded by the Zoldycks. You've got to keep in mind that Killua only got to see Alluka because he brought up the whole deal about "never going back on a friend" with Silva, which is a very important ideal to the family. Silva wouldn't have allowed him if it was for something like the Chimera Ants, knowing that they can be dealt with by other means. Also, I think you need to pay more attention or re-watch it again. The purpose of that secret hospital room was so that no one could see how Gon would be healed. Alluka's power is a secret that must be kept from dangerous hands. I think you guys need to remember that despite how OP Alluka is, there's still a shitload of conditions to him. He's not just something that you can use just like that. And there's also the factor of who he kills, which is a very dangerous thing as well. |
jreginaldSep 10, 2014 7:11 AM
Sep 10, 2014 7:40 AM
#149
jreginald said: DerpHole said: jreginald said: Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: Yeah. Isn't it a little strange that back in the Chimera Ant arc Killua didn't just go back home and ask Something to kill Meruem? Or all of the royal guards? The only thing preventing him from seeing/remembering Alluka was Illumi's needile right? He should have remembered as soon as he pulled it out. Not really a plot hole, but still rather strange. As far as we know Alluka is even more powerful than the Dragon Balls.insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. There's just so much room for the story to get fucked up with such an OP ability.. People will ask themselves things like "why didn't he make x wish... would've saved a lot of trouble and made much more sense" and stuff like that. Hell I already got one - why didn't killua pre-arrange the private extra hospital beforehand and just teleport there with her ability? Alluka is a last resort. The Hunters already had a plan to deal with the CA's, there was no need for Alluka. All your "what if's" can easily be refuted by the fact that Alluka is heavily guarded by the Zoldycks. You've got to keep in mind that Killua only got to see Alluka because he brought up the whole deal about "never going back on a friend" with Silva, which is a very important ideal to the family. Silva wouldn't have allowed him if it was for something like the Chimera Ants, knowing that they can be dealt with by other means. Also, I think you need to pay more attention or re-watch it again. The purpose of that secret hospital room was so that no one could see how Gon would be healed. Alluka's power is a secret that must be kept from dangerous hands. I think you guys need to remember that despite how OP Alluka is, there's still a shitload of conditions to him. He's not just something that you can use just like that. And there's also the factor of who he kills, which is a very dangerous thing as well. Yeah I get why there needs to be a private hospital room thanks... I don't need to rewatch it. That doesn't answer why he didn't just teleport to it... BeatzMe said: Would've been easier to hide his secret if he just teleported and the rest of the family assumed he earned his next wish the hard way.DerpHole said: jreginald said: Kuralchemist99 said: TripleSRank said: Yeah. Isn't it a little strange that back in the Chimera Ant arc Killua didn't just go back home and ask Something to kill Meruem? Or all of the royal guards? The only thing preventing him from seeing/remembering Alluka was Illumi's needile right? He should have remembered as soon as he pulled it out. Not really a plot hole, but still rather strange. As far as we know Alluka is even more powerful than the Dragon Balls.insan3soldiern said: DerpHole said: Well now they can basically solve any problem by using their little pocket sized miracle maker. She's too OP she needs to die or have serious limitations imposed before the story starts getting negatively impacted by her presence. Oh well only 2 more eps left anyway. It's pretty obvious they are setting up a power struggle over Alluka in the Zoldyck family. So, basically, her overpowered abilities have opened up another can of worms. Even at that, I tend to agree with him. As it is, she's overpowered. It doesn't matter who controls her or who she wants to help. I'm not saying that overpowered is inherently bad, but I hazard to say that I'm concerned, even with Togashi being the writer here. Even if the power itself is left OP, there needs to be some kind of limiter. I think Vash the Stampede is a good example- extremely overpowered, but he'd never use the full extent of his potential simply because of who he is. Alluka has no limiter. Not only that, her specific ability is far more vast than the likes of someone like Vash or even (in HxH) Meruem. She can do literally anything, as far as we can tell. Uhm, no. His dad wouldn't even allow him to see Alluka. The whole reason why Alluka is locked up is because they don't want to divulge any information about his powers AND he can cause a whole bunch of deaths. That's kinda why Killua made all those conditions (ie. no one can be in the hospital) when he talked to Morel. Killua only considered Alluka because Gon's life was on the line (which is important to him). If Alluka had actually killed Meruem and co. then everyone will eventually be onto Something. There's just so much room for the story to get fucked up with such an OP ability.. People will ask themselves things like "why didn't he make x wish... would've saved a lot of trouble and made much more sense" and stuff like that. Hell I already got one - why didn't killua pre-arrange the private extra hospital beforehand and just teleport there with her ability? I'm pretty sure Killua didn't remember Alluka for most of the Chimera Ants arc due to Illumi's brainwashing, as he later noted when visiting her. Also, why'd he risk revealing the possibility of exploiting Alluka's abilities 'so easily' and exposing her to the danger the rest of the Zoldycks' thirst for power would pose. He obviously only resorted to that last hope once there was no other means of saving Gon, his best friend and most important person (next to Alluka?). And even once he decided to use her power, he obviously tried to hide his secret concerning Alluka from the others for as long as possible, which made teleporting to Gon from the start needlessly risky as that would only increase their family's suspicion. Better safe than sorry. If something went wrong and he'd have no other choice left (as for example after being cornered by Illumi) he could still resort to using Alluka's power to reach Gon. IMO, he just tried saving Gon while keeping Alluka out of harm's way. He eventually failed and they now know anyway, but he at least tried. |
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Sep 10, 2014 7:49 AM
#150
People really need to pay attention. Killua said Alluka "is the kindest person of all" and "the one truly cursed is he who makes the wish/command". He can't compel her to commit murder, just like they went out of their way and never tried to escape after Chrollo got caught because they didn't want Kurapika to kill. (Gon eventually changed concerning that view but Killua has only grown kinder.) Especially when the mission was viewed as/shown to be a not-so-moral end-justifies-means scenario. So, he asked her to save a life rather than take one. It's. That. Simple. (Or should I say complex?) |
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