No Game No Life (light novel)
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| After this episode,NGNL cleared my doubt and this Anime is a Masterpiece. Its Beyond interesting,there's never a dull moment in each episodes.Lately I've been bored of anime lately and losing interest in anime in general.NGNL lit it up again and Every week I always look forward for the next episode. The hype was Real and I'm glad I stick with it till the end.It also pains me that First season will end next week and I hope that Akame ga kiru will be true to its sources. Anyway is this anime popular in Japan? Japan has weird taste and its always the good ones that don't get Second seasons and always the cliche/dumb anime that keeps on running. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: Botato said: I can see your point, but if you look at it differently, people will be expecting a "train wreck" and judging by the PVs it looks good so far so chances are SAO II might be a step up from its previous season and becoming the surprise of the season. But there will be a big hype either way, just 'how big' we will have to wait and find out. Regardless of how it turns out confirmation bias is a powerful influence, particularly on this site. It'll be interesting for sure. A lot of people hate me for it and say I look down on other people, but really sometimes watching the fan reactions to things and seeing how close they come to my predictions and where I totally miscalled something being a relevant factor can be as interesting or sometimes more interesting to me than the actual show itself. Then again I am a social sciences major so watching how people interact, socialize and build memes, mores, values and belief systems is always going to be fascinating and of interest. In reference to your post on how you say you think its a typical ecchi gag comedy, yes the premise is not original for any matter. However it is the execution that makes it so good. Think about it, what is with mondaiji and ngnl that seperates it from other shows like outbreak company per say or whatsoever, it is the execution. It is definitely not a show for everyone, however because it is able to find a delicate balance of everything without 1 aspect being too overpowering, it overall makes a good show. I might not be able to convince you otherwise, but it is imo miles better than mahouka. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: congrats, I studied in psychology and sociology and I don't go around pretending to be more intelligent than everyone else and looking down on them.. all your posts sound like elitist bigotry, the faster you'll realize it the better it will be for everyone else.Botato said: I can see your point, but if you look at it differently, people will be expecting a "train wreck" and judging by the PVs it looks good so far so chances are SAO II might be a step up from its previous season and becoming the surprise of the season. But there will be a big hype either way, just 'how big' we will have to wait and find out. Regardless of how it turns out confirmation bias is a powerful influence, particularly on this site. It'll be interesting for sure. A lot of people hate me for it and say I look down on other people, but really sometimes watching the fan reactions to things and seeing how close they come to my predictions and where I totally miscalled something being a relevant factor can be as interesting or sometimes more interesting to me than the actual show itself. Then again I am a social sciences major so watching how people interact, socialize and build memes, mores, values and belief systems is always going to be fascinating and of interest. |
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zerriet said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Regardless of how it turns out confirmation bias is a powerful influence, particularly on this site. It'll be interesting for sure. A lot of people hate me for it and say I look down on other people, but really sometimes watching the fan reactions to things and seeing how close they come to my predictions and where I totally miscalled something being a relevant factor can be as interesting or sometimes more interesting to me than the actual show itself. Then again I am a social sciences major so watching how people interact, socialize and build memes, mores, values and belief systems is always going to be fascinating and of interest. In reference to your post on how you say you think its a typical ecchi gag comedy, yes the premise is not original for any matter. However it is the execution that makes it so good. Think about it, what is with mondaiji and ngnl that seperates it from other shows like outbreak company per say or whatsoever, it is the execution. It is definitely not a show for everyone, however because it is able to find a delicate balance of everything without 1 aspect being too overpowering, it overall makes a good show. I might not be able to convince you otherwise, but it is imo miles better than mahouka. Breakout hit on sites like MAL for sure, but that's MAL for you. If people treasure it as a genius masterpiece (again for what such terms are worth anymore) then great but somehow I doubt it. People said Lucky Star would be a show that they would remember for years to come back in 2007 for example but show of hands how many people remember and still deeply cherish Lucky Star. Maybe No Game No Life will be different but I severely doubt it given how fickle people are. Pity Kadokawa couldn't directly market this show to MAL's users from the get go for their sake though cause if they could the likes of Lucky Star and Haruhi would look like footnotes in their publishing history by comparison. NeutralSide said: Anyway is this anime popular in Japan? Japan has weird taste and its always the good ones that don't get Second seasons and always the cliche/dumb anime that keeps on running. If that's the case I wouldn't worry to much about this continuing then. ;) Though to answer your question kind of. It's not the proclaimed smash hit it is on MAL, but that's the case for pretty much everywhere else. They appreciate the artwork and effort that Madhouse has put into the show as do I but similarly realize that it's actually pretty much standard Light Novel fare. The version that is selling now is also a new kindle version that is pretty cheap and affordable so people are picking it up since the anime has generated some interest in it. Nowhere else have I seen it greeted with anywhere near the level of reverence that MAL holds for it though if that's the question. Also where did I ever try to argue that the show was pre-hyped. I'm not blind, I can see it wasn't, it just happened to have that colorful look and get the "epic" label from MAL right off the first episode and then introducing a yandere angel character (It doesn't take a detective to realize the level of hard on MAL's userbase has for yandere characters) sealed the deal. Like I totally get why MAL's general userbase would go bonkers over this show as it's airing, you just can't expect everyone to be the same or put the same value behind what it accomplishes which IMO isn't really a whole lot in the history of the anime medium. Also I'd agree the execution is good, but the material is still primarily ecchi gag comedy and not everybody sees that as a worthwhile, challenging or rewarding enough venture to proclaim something a masterpiece....again for what the term is worth now. Lastly with regard to people talking about Mahouka, that's a false dichotomy. What makes anybody think that I care if the show is better than Mahouka or not, a show I find similarly mediocre in it's own way. Frankly I'm disappointed in what Madhouse has presented with this season save for the continuing Hunter x Hunter. Both productions are mediocre disappointing efforts for similar reasons that I expected to enjoy a lot more than I have up to this point. Hopefully it's not a sign of things to come from them..... Sourire said: congrats, I studied in psychology and sociology and I don't go around pretending to be more intelligent than everyone else and looking down on them.. all your posts sound like elitist bigotry, the faster you'll realize it the better it will be for everyone else. Again I'd rather be considered an elitist and individual with unique positions to offer than just another generic poster making the same old posts about epic this and trainwreck that with the same old list of favorites and same old opinions so this really doesn't worry me all that much. |
PeacingOutJun 19, 2014 8:33 PM
| Shiro, no panties! |
| Stepth always has to be ginny pig :3 Just when i thought Izuna were finished, she pulls off some power O.O i wonder what's going to happen next episode... The last of this season ;_; please don't let me wait 3-4 years for the next ._. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: zerriet said: In reference to your post on how you say you think its a typical ecchi gag comedy, yes the premise is not original for any matter. However it is the execution that makes it so good. Think about it, what is with mondaiji and ngnl that seperates it from other shows like outbreak company per say or whatsoever, it is the execution. It is definitely not a show for everyone, however because it is able to find a delicate balance of everything without 1 aspect being too overpowering, it overall makes a good show. I might not be able to convince you otherwise, but it is imo miles better than mahouka. Breakout hit on sites like MAL for sure, but that's MAL for you. If people treasure it as a genius masterpiece (again for what such terms are worth anymore) then great but somehow I doubt it. People said Lucky Star would be a show that they would remember for years to come back in 2007 for example but show of hands how many people remember and still deeply cherish Lucky Star. Maybe No Game No Life will be different but I severely doubt it given how fickle people are. Pity Kadokawa couldn't directly market this show to MAL's users from the get go for their sake though cause if they could the likes of Lucky Star and Haruhi would look like footnotes in their publishing history by comparison. NeutralSide said: Anyway is this anime popular in Japan? Japan has weird taste and its always the good ones that don't get Second seasons and always the cliche/dumb anime that keeps on running. If that's the case I wouldn't worry to much about this continuing then. ;) Though to answer your question kind of. It's not the proclaimed smash hit it is on MAL, but that's the case for pretty much everywhere else. They appreciate the artwork and effort that Madhouse has put into the show as do I but similarly realize that it's actually pretty much standard Light Novel fare. The version that is selling now is also a new kindle version that is pretty cheap and affordable so people are picking it up since the anime has generated some interest in it. Nowhere else have I seen it greeted with anywhere near the level of reverence that MAL holds for it though if that's the question. Also where did I ever try to argue that the show was pre-hyped. I'm not blind, I can see it wasn't, it just happened to have that colorful look and get the "epic" label from MAL right off the first episode and then introducing a yandere angel character (It doesn't take a detective to realize the level of hard on MAL's userbase has for yandere characters) sealed the deal. Like I totally get why MAL's general userbase would go bonkers over this show as it's airing, you just can't expect everyone to be the same or put the same value behind what it accomplishes which IMO isn't really a whole lot in the history of the anime medium. Also I'd agree the execution is good, but the material is still primarily ecchi gag comedy and not everybody sees that as a worthwhile, challenging or rewarding enough venture to proclaim something a masterpiece....again for what the term is worth now. Lastly with regard to people talking about Mahouka, that's a false dichotomy. What makes anybody think that I care if the show is better than Mahouka or not, a show I find similarly mediocre in it's own way. Frankly I'm disappointed in what Madhouse has presented with this season save for the continuing Hunter x Hunter. Both productions are mediocre disappointing efforts for similar reasons that I expected to enjoy a lot more than I have up to this point. Hopefully it's not a sign of things to come from them..... Sourire said: congrats, I studied in psychology and sociology and I don't go around pretending to be more intelligent than everyone else and looking down on them.. all your posts sound like elitist bigotry, the faster you'll realize it the better it will be for everyone else. Again I'd rather be considered an elitist and individual with unique positions to offer than just another generic poster making the same old posts about epic this and trainwreck that with the same old list of favorites and same old opinions so this really doesn't worry me all that much. something constructive i want to add is that I feel the main problem with you is how you keep ranting about the show's strengths/weaknesses while still being ambiguous about how you feel about the anime itself. Furthermore, by continuously quoting that you want to see trends and such is just adding fuel to the fire, one should really not do that imo. Essentially, we all understand that some shows are not for everybody. Despite steins gate being critically acclaimed, some despise it for scientific mumbo jumbo. Despite gintama being critically acclaimed, some people also hated it because it was humour that was not their cup of tea. What we all cant stand is when someone tries to influence others about a show being a bad and such without giving them an opportunity to view for themselves. Hence, what i suggest is that from now on, we should really just stop flaming each other and just have a meaningful discussion. Have a problem with a show? No problem, some people feel the same way but dont start pushing it all the way. On a another note, i have been always wondering how exactly did you feel about the anime. Is it good but not great or what not? What you have quoted on this forum so far have been pretty shady or ambiguous imo |
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| It's an ecchi gag comedy with obscene otaku pandering spiced up by games that keep the viewer's engagement and create tension, even if it's entirely artificial. What else is there to say about it? It's popcorn entertainment that barely gives anything for discussion. The problem is with the fanbois hyping it up as if it's something more, just because they are entertained. When the medium has proven countless times that it can be art, even this season with Ping Pong, and it's not just because of the fartsy visuals. |
T3hSourceJun 20, 2014 6:04 AM
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| Damn that was very good. Shiro vs Izuna was awesome. Although they should have showed more of Jibril fighting Izuna. She looks so badass calling Izuna a puppy and taunting her. Too bad they didn't show much of the fight. Sora is as funny as always. Specially when he was calculating on how to shoot the NPC's panties. Last episode next week. Can't wait yet I don't want it to end yet. |
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| There was only 1 game in this show that was fun to watch for me. The one between Jibril and Blank. Reason? Out of all the games so far, it was the only one which didn't have cheating involved. This show so far is just repeating the same thing over and over again. Find out about "superior" enemy, learn that opponent is cheating, find the way to overcome the cheat somehow. Why does it bother me so much? As a guy that spends ~10h a day playing games I have come to hate any and all forms of cheating. I was hoping this show is going to be about games, 2 opponents clashing in a fair fight, type of game doesn't matter, they use their brains, logic and gaming sense to try to win... Instead of that it is all about cheating. Cheating, cheating, cheating. Well, fuck it. This show is fun but definitely not meant for people such as myself. I came to it with wrong expectations and got burnt for it. Lesson for future. |
T3hSource said: It's an ecchi gag comedy with obscene otaku pandering spiced up by games that keep the viewer's engagement and create tension, even if it's entirely artificial. What else is there to say about it? It's popcorn entertainment that barely gives anything for discussion. The problem is with the fanbois hyping it up as if it's something more, just because they are entertained. When the medium has proven countless times that it can be art, even this season with Ping Pong, and it's not just because of the fartsy visuals. Which is why i said, the whole argument is pointless. what others precieve as popcorn entertainment may not be to others. Personally, I find there are some underlying tones within the show are actually well executed despite it being a comedy/ecchi. Some others may not feel the same way, but its fine because each of us have our own opinions. In relation to your stand about anime and the reference to ping pong, i can see what you mean. However do bear in mind that taste is based on perspective, shows do not need a complicated story to be good, neither does it have to be art. I do acknowledged that ping pong is good and all, but it really should not be brought into the equation. Quintessentially, what i am trying to say is that NGNL does not need to be well liked or such, however it should be given props for doing what it does right and beyond, thus making a good show overall imho. |
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nina4life said: There was only 1 game in this show that was fun to watch for me. The one between Jibril and Blank. Reason? Out of all the games so far, it was the only one which didn't have cheating involved. This show so far is just repeating the same thing over and over again. Find out about "superior" enemy, learn that opponent is cheating, find the way to overcome the cheat somehow. Why does it bother me so much? As a guy that spends ~10h a day playing games I have come to hate any and all forms of cheating. I was hoping this show is going to be about games, 2 opponents clashing in a fair fight, type of game doesn't matter, they use their brains, logic and gaming sense to try to win... Instead of that it is all about cheating. Cheating, cheating, cheating. Well, fuck it. This show is fun but definitely not meant for people such as myself. I came to it with wrong expectations and got burnt for it. Lesson for future. Fair opinion, i can understand what you are driving at, i personally like them using deduction to outwit a cheat and not through some random bullshit like the power of friendship or whatever, but what you say certainly holds water |
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T3hSource said: It's an ecchi gag comedy with obscene otaku pandering spiced up by games that keep the viewer's engagement and create tension, even if it's entirely artificial. What else is there to say about it? It's popcorn entertainment that barely gives anything for discussion. The problem is with the fanbois hyping it up as if it's something more, just because they are entertained. When the medium has proven countless times that it can be art, even this season with Ping Pong, and it's not just because of the fartsy visuals. To be frank snobbish people like you are what I hate most about anime industry. I watch anime to be entertained and NGNL does exactly that if I want art I go to a bloody museum rather than watch a cartoon. |
nina4life said: That's actually an interesting way to look at it. There was only 1 game in this show that was fun to watch for me. The one between Jibril and Blank. Reason? Out of all the games so far, it was the only one which didn't have cheating involved. This show so far is just repeating the same thing over and over again. Find out about "superior" enemy, learn that opponent is cheating, find the way to overcome the cheat somehow. Why does it bother me so much? As a guy that spends ~10h a day playing games I have come to hate any and all forms of cheating. I was hoping this show is going to be about games, 2 opponents clashing in a fair fight, type of game doesn't matter, they use their brains, logic and gaming sense to try to win... Instead of that it is all about cheating. Cheating, cheating, cheating. Well, fuck it. This show is fun but definitely not meant for people such as myself. I came to it with wrong expectations and got burnt for it. Lesson for future. You're right, it has been like that for a while. And I think it's done on purpose. The last rule is basically just telling people to have fun because it's what's most important about games, but it seems that they forgot it due to greed and lust for power and territory etc.. I'm guessing this is one of the things that will be changed by Sora and Shiro sooner or later, as in they will change people's current view on the games and cheating and make it more about being fair and having fun. Though when I think about it, currently it doesn't bother me all that much but I do agree that it definitely would be better if we have more games like in episode 6. |
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nina4life said: cheating etc.. Don't compare this type of cheating with your video game cheating. It takes brains to think of the cheats and implement them without people finding out and even if they find out they're cheating, make it so that they can't figure out how it's done, it takes complex planning and execution. This cheating type of cheating doesn't guarantee 100% chance of victory unlike the video game kind : +9999, unlimited ammo and unlimited lives. It's not cheating if you're not caught so it's legit. Can't help that you're too dumb to find and understand the cheats. |
ichii_1Jun 20, 2014 7:55 AM
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| Not to mention but get caught cheating=Auto loss. |
| @Caleb8980 Yer friendly an' reasonable, I like you (: @zerriet NGNL is actually complicated with all the explanations it gives out, but doesn't go into any real depths, instead it moves on. And bringing another relevant work that competes with it in the same season should be brought in the equation, since nothing exists in its own little bubble. We live in the information era where anything and everything is connected, constantly shared and compared, no matter how different. Is NGNL good within its genres? No, it's actually great I'd say, but due to hype, I'm reluctant to praise it as a guilty pleasure. But instead go with the opposite and bring people down to realize that it's still an ecchi comedy with referential humor and nothing more. |
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| 5/5 Craziness more and more epic. Plot which sees yet another reversal of situation, I imagined a little. The story does not lose its identity even this time, a must for those who love this kind of anime. Narrative overflowing with fanservice, let us callus. Drawings not bad, good animations. Episode usable, as I said those who love the genre is the best, some nice comic moments. Curious to understand how to unmask Izuna, or has unmasked herself. Increasingly convinced that the two brothers end up loving each other in the end. |
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Turtlewack said: Wait i dont get it i thought jibril couldnt use her powers in the game so how was she able to manifest that black aura thing? That's not magic. Warbeasts cannot use magic. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
Omg, Steph shooting herself was great! One more to go. Let's see how this ends. |
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DawnJ said: Turtlewack said: Wait i dont get it i thought jibril couldnt use her powers in the game so how was she able to manifest that black aura thing? That's not magic. Warbeasts cannot use magic. Not Izuna, Jibril. That one moment when everything turned dark. I don't think that was a magic. Something like intimidation, perhaps, but that was not a magic. |
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ichii_1 said: nina4life said: cheating etc.. Can't help that you're too dumb to find and understand the cheats. What a nice guy. |
nina4life said: ichii_1 said: Can't help that you're too dumb to find and understand the cheats. What a nice guy. I know right ;) You gotta be stern and direct to get to people. |
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T3hSource said: It's an ecchi gag comedy with obscene otaku pandering spiced up by games that keep the viewer's engagement and create tension, even if it's entirely artificial. What else is there to say about it? It's popcorn entertainment that barely gives anything for discussion. The problem is with the fanbois hyping it up as if it's something more, just because they are entertained. When the medium has proven countless times that it can be art, even this season with Ping Pong, and it's not just because of the fartsy visuals. They are mostly hipocrites who can't believe they enjoy genre they usualy despise. |
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Botato said: I wonder. Sora asked Izuna when she the last time was where she actually had fun playing that game. If she didn't have fun, wasn't she disobeying the rules, which should be impossible?That's actually an interesting way to look at it. You're right, it has been like that for a while. And I think it's done on purpose. The last rule is basically just telling people to have fun because it's what's most important about games, but it seems that they forgot it due to greed and lust for power and territory etc.. |
T3hSource said: @Caleb8980 Yer friendly an' reasonable, I like you (: @zerriet NGNL is actually complicated with all the explanations it gives out, but doesn't go into any real depths, instead it moves on. And bringing another relevant work that competes with it in the same season should be brought in the equation, since nothing exists in its own little bubble. We live in the information era where anything and everything is connected, constantly shared and compared, no matter how different. Is NGNL good within its genres? No, it's actually great I'd say, but due to hype, I'm reluctant to praise it as a guilty pleasure. But instead go with the opposite and bring people down to realize that it's still an ecchi comedy with referential humor and nothing more. good insight, I have to kinda agree with you on this one, though i must say i also like the amount of subtlety used in the shows that help boost character development, as well as the wacky nature of all the games without being too much of an asspull. The fact that they even gave insight on the king rather than put him there as just a matyr without definition is certainly evident of that |
| Anime gave me more life lessons than school |
| That opening was so cheesy, gah. It was a really nice episode, though. Some nice tactics there, and watching Shiro do all those calculations on the floor was pretty nice. |
Sury said: I'm a little unclear on that myself. But the way I see it, Tet doesn't want to force anyone to have fun. He wants people to be genuinely having fun themselves, so the 10th rule isn't forced on people like the other 9.Botato said: I wonder. Sora asked Izuna when she the last time was where she actually had fun playing that game. If she didn't have fun, wasn't she disobeying the rules, which should be impossible?That's actually an interesting way to look at it. You're right, it has been like that for a while. And I think it's done on purpose. The last rule is basically just telling people to have fun because it's what's most important about games, but it seems that they forgot it due to greed and lust for power and territory etc.. Takuan_Soho said: Yeah I noticed that, but it was in the preview and I guess I thought mentioning it is not really important since everyone who watched the episode saw it ^^" It is absolutely the intent of the writer, and it will be covered this season (take a look at what the last episode is titled: ルール ナンバー 10) |
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| LOL! Jibirl doing NTR. Poor Steph. Izuna is having taboshii. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| That gun must be the greatest invention since the Gravity Gun seriously this anime just won't stop bringing out ridiculously awesome individual episodes, so funny lol |
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| Terrific episode. Awesome action. Great strategy too. I was also impressed with the animation of this episode. Who ever thought panties would be so handy and form such an integral part of a battle strategy?!? Only in Anime!!! |
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| this was epic as hell!!! such a shame that it only has 1episode left Shiro is a cutiepie :3 |
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| shiro where are the 360 no scopes |
| The thing that was shiro calculating was partial derivative of bullet momentum, of course she didnt need to calculate uncertainty of measurement by the total differential because they are so awsome they can shoot with 100% accuracy. Oh wait it wasnt bullet momentum it was density it wasnt "p" it was "ρ". Oh well its an plothole then=score 1/10 |
| Wooooow ok so i'm not going to comment everything that happened in this episode,but it was awesome xD Shiro & Sora boss! Jibril wooooooow Stephanie=useless :D Their plans are awesome and when they tell everything about how they made it i am like "shocked" genious xD Izuna beast desperate mode?ahaha Can't wait for the last episode. |
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Jeycopp said: The thing that was shiro calculating was partial derivative of bullet momentum, of course she didnt need to calculate uncertainty of measurement by the total differential because they are so awsome they can shoot with 100% accuracy. Oh wait it wasnt bullet momentum it was density it wasnt "p" it was "ρ". Oh well its an plothole then=score 1/10 Same reasoning as me |
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