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patco23 said: Well, I hate to say it, but this is the point where HxH jumped the shark for me. Not because of the tired old "sacrificing your future for the sake of the present" bit, or the anticlimactic ending to the battle, but because it ultimately turned into a clone of Dragonball Z where ever-escalating power levels and suicidal attacks are the norm. Why exactly does Gon have to pull a SSJ-style transformation to win this battle? Could it be because the author knew he had written himself into a corner and had no other recourse but to resort to such an inelegant act to resolve this conflict? Or was it always planned to turn out this way from the beginning? If it was the former, then I'm afraid that all those hiatuses really hurt the story after all. If the latter, then I respect the author's decision but I cannot say that I'm impressed by it. I already know how things play out from here, and nothing in the remaining manga chapters does anything to change my opinion that HxH peaked a long time ago. I truly hope that future events will prove me wrong. i wouldnt say it peaked already for me this upcoming new arc is the most interesting because its focused on the origin of nen |
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patco23 said: Why exactly does Gon have to pull a SSJ-style transformation to win this battle? Could it be because the author knew he had written himself into a corner and had no other recourse but to resort to such an inelegant act to resolve this conflict? Or was it always planned to turn out this way from the beginning? If it was the former, then I'm afraid that all those hiatuses really hurt the story after all. If the latter, then I respect the author's decision but I cannot say that I'm impressed by it. I'd guess the latter, since everything relating Gon in the palace invasion converged at this episode. |
patco23 said: Well, I hate to say it, but this is the point where HxH jumped the shark for me. Not because of the tired old "sacrificing your future for the sake of the present" bit, or the anticlimactic ending to the battle, but because it ultimately turned into a clone of Dragonball Z where ever-escalating power levels and suicidal attacks are the norm. Why exactly does Gon have to pull a SSJ-style transformation to win this battle? Could it be because the author knew he had written himself into a corner and had no other recourse but to resort to such an inelegant act to resolve this conflict? Or was it always planned to turn out this way from the beginning? If it was the former, then I'm afraid that all those hiatuses really hurt the story after all. If the latter, then I respect the author's decision but I cannot say that I'm impressed by it. I already know how things play out from here, and nothing in the remaining manga chapters does anything to change my opinion that HxH peaked a long time ago. I truly hope that future events will prove me wrong. How else would have Gon been able to kill Pitou? I wouldn't doubt that this was planned from the very beginning. Gon sacrificing his life energy and potential to get to where he is? Explained by Kurapika regarding vows & limitations of Nen. Pitou's resurrection? Explained by Sphinx on why they shouldn't kill Kurapika. These things were established way before these events took place. Gee, I didn't know that one transformation (with dreadful repercussions) suddenly turns a series into a DBZ clone. If you knew what happened next, you'd know that whatever happens to the King is far from the norm. |
| 1000/10!! this ep was magnificent!! at first i cant stop laughing at gon's transformation lol actually i'm kinda mad at gon for killing pitou :( it was emotionally done well, 131>126 maybe? haha also, gon sacrificing his life for greater power remind me of final getsuga xD |
MechaMeisterMay 27, 2014 7:32 PM
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| I seriously don't know what to think after this episode, I was just blown away. |
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| One of the best transformations out there. |
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| Holy shit. I'll have to come back later for more of an opinion. Can't even think right now. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
jreginald said: patco23 said: Well, I hate to say it, but this is the point where HxH jumped the shark for me. Not because of the tired old "sacrificing your future for the sake of the present" bit, or the anticlimactic ending to the battle, but because it ultimately turned into a clone of Dragonball Z where ever-escalating power levels and suicidal attacks are the norm. Why exactly does Gon have to pull a SSJ-style transformation to win this battle? Could it be because the author knew he had written himself into a corner and had no other recourse but to resort to such an inelegant act to resolve this conflict? Or was it always planned to turn out this way from the beginning? If it was the former, then I'm afraid that all those hiatuses really hurt the story after all. If the latter, then I respect the author's decision but I cannot say that I'm impressed by it. I already know how things play out from here, and nothing in the remaining manga chapters does anything to change my opinion that HxH peaked a long time ago. I truly hope that future events will prove me wrong. How else would have Gon been able to kill Pitou? I wouldn't doubt that this was planned from the very beginning. Gon sacrificing his life energy and potential to get to where he is? Explained by Kurapika regarding vows & limitations of Nen. Pitou's resurrection? Explained by Sphinx on why they shouldn't kill Kurapika. These things were established way before these events took place. Gee, I didn't know that one transformation (with dreadful repercussions) suddenly turns a series into a DBZ clone. If you knew what happened next, you'd know that whatever happens to the King is far from the norm. I'm going to admit that when I first read the scene in the manga, I had a similar reaction. I thought Gon was pulling some super-saiyan bull-shit to defeat Pitou. But no, it wasn't like that at all. I hate saying it like this, but this was a suicide mission. Gon was ready to die in his fight with Pitou; that's why he made such a huge sacrifice in exchange for so much power so quickly. (Just like Netero.) Other people would approach a battle with a kill-or-be-killed mentality. Gon had a destroy-you-even-if-it-means-destroying-myself mentality. I think that's why he said "it didn't hurt," when he lost his arm, and he wasn't just "being tough." Gon was completely prepared to face the consequences, no matter what they were. I think that's what makes HxH so unique from other shounen, including DBZ. No matter what happens, characters are forced to face the consequences of their actions. Throughout this series, Gon has broken both his arms, lost a hand (in GI), now an arm, has been held hostage, and has had several close calls with death. Now that he has made the ultimate sacrifice, he must face the repercussions... shit like this never happened in DBZ... or any other shounen mags I know of. |
| Just watched it for the 3rd time :O so good :) Pitou glad that he's the one who's gonna get killed and not the King, the loyalty :) Gon was willing to sacrifice his future to avenge Kite :( Adult Gon would definitely Mereum before the bomb, would lose to the post bomb version thou. |
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| Also watched my third time. The only thing I don't like about the episode is Killua's flashback of Biske. It felt like it somewhat killed the mood. I guess if it wasn't shown, the timing would be awkward focusing too much time on Killua's face, but at least that wouldn't have broken the immersion. |
| this epi was beautiful ... i think the reason gon went berserk was not solely for what pitou did to kite rather gon's own guilty conscious for causing such e big mess up until now...i mean this kid is a head to toe good guy who never ever even in his dreams consider causing harm to others . so its natural he took the responsibility for such a big fuckup and that motivated him big time . i mean the story could have gone in a totally different direction with kite vs pitou if gon hadn't behaved like a "child" back then ..so gon went full circle in his "adult " mode to make all the wrong right ... not o mention paid a tribute to kite losing one of his arms ... he lost everything to make it right ... seemed beautiful way to settle things at this stage ... |
headless_nickMay 27, 2014 9:05 PM
| WOW what an amazing episode. Gon's transformation was so bad ass. Pitou didn't stand a chance. So many punches. Gon lost an arm just like Kite. So intense. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| I won't smile ever again, fuck you Gon. |
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| Absolute greatness! Not a single badly done scene. |
Flume said: Can I put this in my sig? XDI won't smile ever again, fuck you Gon. |
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| I knew what was gonna happen, but I still feel like it's a cop out. One of, if not the most anticipated, fight in the arc started and finished in one episode with Gon trashing Pitou in a one-sided "fight." |
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| Wonder what will happen to Gon after all that power being used up. I mean, equal to the King? That's crazy, and I thought Pitou was already ridiculously strong. I do admit the transformation felt kinda DBZ-esque and convenient, but that didn't detract from my enjoyment of the episode. |
KefkirothMay 27, 2014 9:03 PM
GalekC said: Flume said: Can I put this in my sig? XDI won't smile ever again, fuck you Gon. Sure lol OT: Damn, the musical score was great. This episode was some brutal shit. The transformation scene was insane, some things are just better animated than in manga |
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| I really need to add a comment here...fucking awesome episode. Gon going berseck and destroying Pitou like an insect but has sacrifice something much greater.Will the anime going on break soon as ot much material is out waiting for the come back of the manga next month |
AmGodBrah said: Are u fucking kidding me? Where are the mods get this shit out of here Lol you should have just left it to die in the last page. |
AmGodBrah said: headless_nick said: this epi was beautiful ... i think the reason gon went berserk was not solely for what pitou did to kite rather gon's own guilty conscious for causing such e big mess up until now...i mean this kid is a head to toe good guy who never ever even in his dreams consider causing harm to others . so its natural he took the responsibility for such a big fuckup and that motivated him big time . i mean the story could have gone in a totally different direction with kite vs pitou if gon hadn't behaved like a "child" back then ..so gon went full circle in his "adult " mode to make all the wrong right ... not o mention paid a tribute to kite losing one of his arms ... he lost everything to make it right ... seemed beautiful way to settle things at this stage ... Are u fucking kidding me? Where are the mods get this shit out of here Now that you quoted him without spoiler'ing it, others are gonna see as well... ._. |
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Flume said: AmGodBrah said: headless_nick said: this epi was beautiful ... i think the reason gon went berserk was not solely for what pitou did to kite rather gon's own guilty conscious for causing such e big mess up until now...i mean this kid is a head to toe good guy who never ever even in his dreams consider causing harm to others . so its natural he took the responsibility for such a big fuckup and that motivated him big time . i mean the story could have gone in a totally different direction with kite vs pitou if gon hadn't behaved like a "child" back then ..so gon went full circle in his "adult " mode to make all the wrong right ... not o mention paid a tribute to kite losing one of his arms ... he lost everything to make it right ... seemed beautiful way to settle things at this stage ... Are u fucking kidding me? Where are the mods get this shit out of here Now that you quoted him without spoiler'ing it, others are gonna see as well... ._. my mistake . tagged it |
| Gon wrecking Pitou all over the forest. Holy fucking shit this episode is easily the best of 2014. 10/10. |
| too much action in one episode . didnt expected that |
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| action was nice this episode, but Gon made a huge sacrifice to temporarily become god-like |
| Amazing episode. I wasn't expecting something like this. I really loved. |
| Episode was crazy as heck. Background music fit so well I was getting chills. RIP Pitou. |
| Gon just raped Pitou! R.I.P Pitou... you fucked with the wrong kid |
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| So, Gon chose his revenge over his potential. I don't think this sequence could have played out any better now that I have had some time to think about it. It wasn't what I wanted his revenge to be like back in episode 95 when he declared to Killua that "I want that one", I've grown to really like Pitou as a character, so seeing this play out gave me a very bitter sweet sort of feeling. Her last thoughts being that she was glad it was her and not the King only added to that. I could also make some comparisons between Gon's transformation and a certain one in the Cell arc of DBZ. But, I don't want to spoil something from another series for those few who haven't seen that show. Suffice to say this felt like a very negative version of that to me. Line of the episode? "I finished the job, just like you taught me". I don't think Kite would be proud of you though, Gon... |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| HOLY SHIT, BEST EPISODE OF HUNTER X HUNTER 2011 EVER.....EVER. I'm in loss of words from seeing this. 1000000000000000/10 O_____O |
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Raticate said: I also thought the atmosphere was right during the transformation and that it got the message through, in great part, thanks to the OST. However, I watched some reaction vids (yes, I had to xD) and some people seemed to be too excited about the transformation. I can assure you I wasn't one of those people. I thought the situation was pretty fucked, really. Though, again, this could have something to do with me really liking Pitou's character. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Woooooooooow No way in hell did I see that coming, I cannot explain how awesome that was, I think that 1 episode will increase the my score on the anime xD But man that manly Gon. 1 thing didn't make sense though if he was as strong as the king according to what Pitou said then why did he lose his arm? I mean the first time she attacked his back he turned in a split second and kicked her but that time he didn't do anything. Well I guess I too would let my guard down if I took of somethings head too. anyway the best part was when he punched her with his own decapitated limb. *_* |
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| 5 1/5s and 8 2/5s in a few minutes... Interesting. |
| My goodness.. WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT? IT WAS GLORIOUS.ijuidsuahuo Epicness overload! Pitou, you were the best waifu I've ever had...R.I.P My smexy kitty. |
| Knowing the Hunter x Hunter fanbase, I'm gonna get nuked for saying this but the episode was good but not great. The ost usage in this episode was definitely the best part, all the tracks were spot on. From an emotional standpoint, it did a much better job than the previous episode as well. However, the animation for a lot of the sequences during their "battle" felt like Madhouse was doing too much. Almost all the comments I have read thus far have said it was perfect, I feel as though Madhouse just tried doing too much to make it "epic" instead of just letting the action play out and do the work for them. The initial transformation scene where Gon first transforms and he looked straight out of a manga panel combined with the tailed beast animation from Naruto was not my favorite. Then they put Pitou in red light for no reason to charge at him then later on rehashing the black and white animation from the Uvogin-Kurapika fight when Gon got his arm cut off. For me, it felt like all of this was too over the top and really took away from the action. The "fight" itself is still beyond mediocre. I hate that it's even considered a fight because it's basically the definition of a one sided curb stomping. I've always considered this more of a cool moment than I did a battle, so to see people say this was a great fight when Pitou never landed a clean blow is kind of gut wrenching since this is one of the things Hunter x Hunter masterfully avoided until this point. It'd be like calling Silva crushing Cheetu's head a fight. It just simply isn't. Again, since I guarantee my words will be twisted, not saying this scene or moment is bad, just saying as a battle it is pathetic. The last thing I want to hit on as far as this episode is the transformation power itself. It was still a weird thing to see in the story. No matter whether it's the manga or the anime, it still feels so surreal and out of place. No matter how many ways I look at it, no matter how many different ways I've heard people justify it's existence, it still feels as though this power is a deus ex machina. Togashi wrote himself to a point where there was no foreseeable way for Gon to defeat Pitou so he gave him a short gained, massive power boost in order to keep the plot of the arc moving. Those were just the few things I took away from the episode. All in all, even though my entire post was focusing on the points I disliked, I found this to still be a very good episode. Not as good as some of the others from the arc, but it was still a very fun watch and really gave off the big moment vibe here. |
Kerither said: Do you know if it will further part?After chimera art? Election arc :) |
insan3Spectre said: I don't know if anyone else mentioned this. But, look where Pitou is positioned right before her death. Remind you of anything? Oh the ironic justice |
insan3Spectre said: I don't know if anyone else mentioned this. But, look where Pitou is positioned right before her death. Remind you of anything? This episode had a lot of callbacks that I'm gonna make a thread about it, I'll add this one too |
| wow so does he go back to normal?that hair is so long. |
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