Aylaine said: A bad tsundere character is most likely to blame for this. Unrealistic and if reversed, the complaints would swarm in like a train infested with hatred. This I hate the stupid double standards of feminists. |
skuka said: Aylaine said: A bad tsundere character is most likely to blame for this. Unrealistic and if reversed, the complaints would swarm in like a train infested with hatred. This I hate the stupid double standards of feminists. Actually....as a female and many females I know, Tsunderes are hated. It's why harems are targeted towards males and not females, watching some bitch slap a poor guy for usually her own stupidnesss is not exactly my idea of fun. Maybe instead of blaming feminists, who have their own problems..this is not one, and realize it's because some guys love this kind of woman.. why.. i don't know...but they do. I think most of us females would stand up and clap if a guy finally put one of these crazy idiots in their place. |
| Because due to chivalry, men shouldn't hit women and they should as well protect them, because men are physically superior. Or some bullcrap |
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Heredity said: Xannieh said: pretty sure he was talking about the fact that women beating up on men in anime is socially acceptable, but men beating up on women in anime isn't and there would be fusses to be kicked about if (and when) it did happen.skuka said: Aylaine said: A bad tsundere character is most likely to blame for this. Unrealistic and if reversed, the complaints would swarm in like a train infested with hatred. This I hate the stupid double standards of feminists. Actually....as a female and many females I know, Tsunderes are hated. It's why harems are targeted towards males and not females, watching some bitch slap a poor guy for usually her own stupidnesss is not exactly my idea of fun. Maybe instead of blaming feminists, who have their own problems..this is not one, and realize it's because some guys love this kind of woman.. why.. i don't know...but they do. I think most of us females would stand up and clap if a guy finally put one of these crazy idiots in their place. ^^ Pretty much Also, I'm female. :P I've never seen any feminist comment on how girls beating up boys is incorrect. We all know that if a boy beat up a girl for comedic effect, there would be an uproar. I know they do it in harems, but girls beating boys up is common in other genres too. It happens in Clannad and Naruto |
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skyzblue said: Because those creepy ass otaku's like it that way.. This Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. What are you doing here then? Almost all anime for adults is produced for otakus, so if you don't like it then gtfo. Besides, people seem to have no problems watching men hit other men for comedic effects, or personificated animals for that matter. Ever watched Tom & Jerry as a kid? It's far more brutal than any slapstick humor I've ever seen in anime (ok scratch that, there's Dokuro-chan). Why is it only offensive to you if a woman is doing it? Can you explain me that, dear masculinists? |
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PeachMilkyTea said: I completely agree. Why do all the writers make the girls think all men are trying to cop a feel? It's not funny, it's dumb and is a poor excuse when trying to add in comedy. It's like when a girl is always hitting the guy. Wtf? It makes them look retarded. Can't even watch anime when the girl is always calling the guy a pervert every 5 seconds. Rant complete. This. Anime like that is usually garbage |
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Shiratori99 said: Because it's Tom AND Jerry.TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. What are you doing here then? Almost all anime for adults is produced for otakus, so if you don't like it then gtfo. Besides, people seem to have no problems watching men hit other men for comedic effects, or personificated animals for that matter. Ever watched Tom & Jerry as a kid? It's far more brutal than any slapstick humor I've ever seen in anime (ok scratch that, there's Dokuro-chan). Why is it only offensive to you if a woman is doing it? Can you explain me that, dear masculinists? Not "Tom beats the shit out of Jerry for no reason LOL". And first off, to answer your question, as a society we glorify violence against men. That's not really deniable. But when there's male on male violence, there's the opportunity for repercussions. A guy who gets hit by a guy can, and is expected to, hit him back. If it's between friends, it can be a joke, but its still mutual violence and aggression. There's a chance to "get back". To get even. Tom and Jerry is funny, because you're entertained by what they're doing to each other. It's a mutual thing. They try to outsmart each other. They're assholes to each other. If it were one sided, I really doubt the show would be all that popular. It'd just be a depiction of glorified bullying. With a girl, there is not a sense of balance. If a girl hits a guy, and he hits her back, he is the aggressor, asshole, misogynist, abuser, and is basically outcast from society. It's all one sided. It's basically "hey, I'm going to hit you, and I'm fully aware that you can do nothing about it!" It's like somebody throwing rocks at a tiger behind a cage. Do you know what "double standard" means? If a show insists on going down the "hey I'm an irrational violent bitch.. but you love me!" Stockholm syndrome romance path, I'd really much prefer it be a mutual thing. Obviously I don't really condone actual violence, but a mutual tsundere relationship would be entertaining and really refreshing. Think something like Prank vs Prank. They're a youtube channel started by boyfriend and girlfriend, and they pull pranks on each other. They do some brutal shit to each other too. But they do it to each other. It's endearing when it's an agreed upon, willingly participated in, entertaining aspect of their relationship. And through it all, they bond and love each other more for it. If it were "Prank vs Victim", that wouldn't be funny. It'd just be cruel. If it's one sided, it's simply abuse. |
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Red_Keys said: Shiratori99 said: Because it's Tom AND Jerry.TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. What are you doing here then? Almost all anime for adults is produced for otakus, so if you don't like it then gtfo. Besides, people seem to have no problems watching men hit other men for comedic effects, or personificated animals for that matter. Ever watched Tom & Jerry as a kid? It's far more brutal than any slapstick humor I've ever seen in anime (ok scratch that, there's Dokuro-chan). Why is it only offensive to you if a woman is doing it? Can you explain me that, dear masculinists? Not "Tom beats the shit out of Jerry for no reason LOL". And first off, to answer your question, as a society we glorify violence against men. That's not really deniable. But when there's male on male violence, there's the opportunity for repercussions. A guy who gets hit by a guy can, and is expected to, hit him back. If it's between friends, it can be a joke, but its still mutual violence and aggression. There's a chance to "get back". To get even. Tom and Jerry is funny, because you're entertained by what they're doing to each other. It's a mutual thing. They try to outsmart each other. They're assholes to each other. If it were one sided, I really doubt the show would be all that popular. It'd just be a depiction of glorified bullying. With a girl, there is not a sense of balance. If a girl hits a guy, and he hits her back, he is the aggressor, asshole, misogynist, abuser, and is basically outcast from society. It's all one sided. It's basically "hey, I'm going to hit you, and I'm fully aware that you can do nothing about it!" It's like somebody throwing rocks at a tiger behind a cage. Do you know what "double standard" means? If a show insists on going down the "hey I'm an irrational violent bitch.. but you love me!" Stockholm syndrome romance path, I'd really much prefer it be a mutual thing. Obviously I don't really condone actual violence, but a mutual tsundere relationship would be entertaining and really refreshing. Think something like Prank vs Prank. They're a youtube channel started by boyfriend and girlfriend, and they pull pranks on each other. They do some brutal shit to each other too. But they do it to each other. It's endearing when it's an agreed upon, willingly participated in, entertaining aspect of their relationship. And through it all, they bond and love each other more for it. If it were "Prank vs Victim", that wouldn't be funny. It'd just be cruel. If it's one sided, it's simply abuse. But Jerry always wins. Made me feel bad for the cat, at least more than for any beat up harem MC who gets his reward in the end. |
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Shiratori99 said: But Jerry always wins. Made me feel bad for the cat, at least more than for any beat up harem MC who gets his reward in the end. I always disliked that about the show as well, was waiting for that one episode for Tom to get one up on Jerry but it'd never happen. Poor cat :[ |
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Shiratori99 said: Red_Keys said: Shiratori99 said: Because it's Tom AND Jerry.TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. What are you doing here then? Almost all anime for adults is produced for otakus, so if you don't like it then gtfo. Besides, people seem to have no problems watching men hit other men for comedic effects, or personificated animals for that matter. Ever watched Tom & Jerry as a kid? It's far more brutal than any slapstick humor I've ever seen in anime (ok scratch that, there's Dokuro-chan). Why is it only offensive to you if a woman is doing it? Can you explain me that, dear masculinists? Not "Tom beats the shit out of Jerry for no reason LOL". And first off, to answer your question, as a society we glorify violence against men. That's not really deniable. But when there's male on male violence, there's the opportunity for repercussions. A guy who gets hit by a guy can, and is expected to, hit him back. If it's between friends, it can be a joke, but its still mutual violence and aggression. There's a chance to "get back". To get even. Tom and Jerry is funny, because you're entertained by what they're doing to each other. It's a mutual thing. They try to outsmart each other. They're assholes to each other. If it were one sided, I really doubt the show would be all that popular. It'd just be a depiction of glorified bullying. With a girl, there is not a sense of balance. If a girl hits a guy, and he hits her back, he is the aggressor, asshole, misogynist, abuser, and is basically outcast from society. It's all one sided. It's basically "hey, I'm going to hit you, and I'm fully aware that you can do nothing about it!" It's like somebody throwing rocks at a tiger behind a cage. Do you know what "double standard" means? If a show insists on going down the "hey I'm an irrational violent bitch.. but you love me!" Stockholm syndrome romance path, I'd really much prefer it be a mutual thing. Obviously I don't really condone actual violence, but a mutual tsundere relationship would be entertaining and really refreshing. Think something like Prank vs Prank. They're a youtube channel started by boyfriend and girlfriend, and they pull pranks on each other. They do some brutal shit to each other too. But they do it to each other. It's endearing when it's an agreed upon, willingly participated in, entertaining aspect of their relationship. And through it all, they bond and love each other more for it. If it were "Prank vs Victim", that wouldn't be funny. It'd just be cruel. If it's one sided, it's simply abuse. But Jerry always wins. Made me feel bad for the cat, at least more than for any beat up harem MC who gets his reward in the end. Feeling pity for Tom is different from feeling anger/irritation towards Jerry. I also pitied Tom and never found Tom & Jerry very amusing because of the one-sided violence, but it's mostly because Tom is pretty incompetent so I feel for him, but don't get angry at Jerry for always winning their competitions. Random one-sided tsundere abuse makes me not feel pity because the OP usually doesn't do anything to prevent it, it just makes me angry at the unwarranted aggressor and how it is naturally accepted. As far as I'm concerned that's a huge difference in the interactions of Tom/Jerry and Tsundere/Wimp. @Lime_: I think I remember 2 or 3 episodes of Tom winning, but they were really rare and even if he won the consequences for Jerry were less cruel than they were the other way round. |
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| To be fair, Tom "winning" = Jerry being murdered and in his stomach. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Feeling pity for Tom is different from feeling anger/irritation towards Jerry. I also pitied Tom and never found Tom & Jerry very amusing because of the one-sided violence, but it's mostly because Tom is pretty incompetent so I feel for him, but don't get angry at Jerry for always winning their competitions. Random one-sided tsundere abuse makes me not feel pity because the OP usually doesn't do anything to prevent it, it just makes me angry at the unwarranted aggressor and how it is naturally accepted. As far as I'm concerned that's a huge difference in the interactions of Tom/Jerry and Tsundere/Wimp. The thing is, if you take the violence seriously, shouldn't you be equally disgusted by the sadism shown in shows like Tom & Jerry? And if you don't take it seriously and see it just as what it is - slapstick comedy - you shouldn't find an issue with violent tsunderes either. |
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Shiratori99 said: But there are shows where the comedy is just shoehorned in just to pad out the air time. The "comedy" that is made up of violence doesn't contribute anything to the show because the main point of the show isn't comedy. So we're stuck with trying to take the show seriously at some times, and not at other times.Higashi_no_Kaze said: Feeling pity for Tom is different from feeling anger/irritation towards Jerry. I also pitied Tom and never found Tom & Jerry very amusing because of the one-sided violence, but it's mostly because Tom is pretty incompetent so I feel for him, but don't get angry at Jerry for always winning their competitions. Random one-sided tsundere abuse makes me not feel pity because the OP usually doesn't do anything to prevent it, it just makes me angry at the unwarranted aggressor and how it is naturally accepted. As far as I'm concerned that's a huge difference in the interactions of Tom/Jerry and Tsundere/Wimp. The thing is, if you take the violence seriously, shouldn't you be equally disgusted by the sadism shown in shows like Tom & Jerry? And if you don't take it seriously and see it just as what it is - slapstick comedy - you shouldn't find an issue with violent tsunderes either. e.g. The Familiar of Zero At least when you go into something like Tom & Jerry or Looney Tunes you know you're in for something funny and violent. |
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| Both Tom & Jerry committed suicide in the last episode of the original run called Blue Cat Blues, depressing in a way. |
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| What are you talking about. I'd love to get a kick in the shoulder from Holo. Especially due to what follows that... he he. |
| If you generalize, you're wrong. |
| Because they're masochists, there is no other explanation. |
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| I don't want to be that guy, but really, people don't fly when they are hit. anime =/= reality |
| It's not reality. If you allow flying men, supernatural beings and characters that can literally create energy streams from their hands... mmm, what's so strange in girls hitting guys? |
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Shiratori99 said: TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. What are you doing here then? Almost all anime for adults is produced for otakus, so if you don't like it then gtfo. Besides, people seem to have no problems watching men hit other men for comedic effects, or personificated animals for that matter. Ever watched Tom & Jerry as a kid? It's far more brutal than any slapstick humor I've ever seen in anime (ok scratch that, there's Dokuro-chan). Why is it only offensive to you if a woman is doing it? Can you explain me that, dear masculinists? What I'm doing here then? I just watch and enjoy shows that aren't produced for otakus. as easy as that right? Can't change the shit taste of those people anyway. And I'm not offended by a girl hitting a guy...i don't really care. I'm just quick to drop these kind of shows because that's a sign of highly immature characters/story telling. Tsundere characters are unrealistic and I'm not a masochist... |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: TheNaturalPerm said: Shiratori99 said: OP is a troll, but w/e. It's a way of expressing the female character's shyness and insecurity, both traits that make her moe. If you don't understand this, you should give up on otaku culture cause you'll never understand it. Otaku "culture"? who'd want to understand the taste of 30 yr old basement nerds who buy love live cds and shit. these people are losers. What are you doing here then? Almost all anime for adults is produced for otakus, so if you don't like it then gtfo. Besides, people seem to have no problems watching men hit other men for comedic effects, or personificated animals for that matter. Ever watched Tom & Jerry as a kid? It's far more brutal than any slapstick humor I've ever seen in anime (ok scratch that, there's Dokuro-chan). Why is it only offensive to you if a woman is doing it? Can you explain me that, dear masculinists? What I'm doing here then? I just watch and enjoy shows that aren't produced for otakus. as easy as that right? Can't change the shit taste of those people anyway. And I'm not offended by a girl hitting a guy...i don't really care. I'm just quick to drop these kind of shows because that's a sign of highly immature characters/story telling. Tsundere characters are unrealistic and I'm not a masochist... For someone who doesn't like tsundere, rating 7/10 Toradora, which has one of the worst tsun around, this seems pretty incongrouos. |
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| It doesn't have anything to do with their gender, really, it's all about what kind of character they are. Society deems it's not okay to hit a woman in any circumstances, so that's why we never see this kind of thing happening with the genders reversed. (Man falling, hitting a woman, and calling her a pervert.) However, it's possible in some scenes that a female character would fall on top of a man and after getting up, just apologize and say "sorry..." Or maybe they would get turned on and start humping him or something... It's all about their specific character. Anyway, like others have said, it's just slapstick comedy, similar to The Three Stooges. Do you also get upset when Moe calls Curly a numbskull and pokes him in the eyes? That would probably hurt in real life, but when done in the three stooges, it's just funny. :P |
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kusanagi353 said: Why do girls in anime beat up guys for no reason at all and everybody is alright with it? It doesn't make sense, for example when the girl falls down stairs and lands on the guy (usually she lands near his pelvic area/leg area) immediately blames him calling him a pervert and she hits/kicks him and bystanders are fine with it. I think the bystanders don't say a word, because they don't want to get beaten after the girl is done with the MC. |
gamer2710 said: Shiratori99 said: But there are shows where the comedy is just shoehorned in just to pad out the air time. The "comedy" that is made up of violence doesn't contribute anything to the show because the main point of the show isn't comedy. So we're stuck with trying to take the show seriously at some times, and not at other times.Higashi_no_Kaze said: Feeling pity for Tom is different from feeling anger/irritation towards Jerry. I also pitied Tom and never found Tom & Jerry very amusing because of the one-sided violence, but it's mostly because Tom is pretty incompetent so I feel for him, but don't get angry at Jerry for always winning their competitions. Random one-sided tsundere abuse makes me not feel pity because the OP usually doesn't do anything to prevent it, it just makes me angry at the unwarranted aggressor and how it is naturally accepted. As far as I'm concerned that's a huge difference in the interactions of Tom/Jerry and Tsundere/Wimp. The thing is, if you take the violence seriously, shouldn't you be equally disgusted by the sadism shown in shows like Tom & Jerry? And if you don't take it seriously and see it just as what it is - slapstick comedy - you shouldn't find an issue with violent tsunderes either. e.g. The Familiar of Zero At least when you go into something like Tom & Jerry or Looney Tunes you know you're in for something funny and violent. Wat? There is some sort of comedy in almost every anime, heck no, almost any medium for the sake of entertainment. It's called comedic relief to prevent the story from getting too dark and serious. Also it might not be funny for you, but for a lot of other people, it is. Moreover, you picked like the worst example possible. Zero no Tsukaima is almost nothing but comedy. The plot is just the sidedish. TheNaturalPerm said: What I'm doing here then? I just watch and enjoy shows that aren't produced for otakus. as easy as that right? Can't change the shit taste of those people anyway. You realize that almost all anime on your list are otaku anime, right? |
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Red_Keys said: Shitty situations written by shitty writers enjoyed by shitty people. |
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dblbch said: Both Tom & Jerry committed suicide in the last episode of the original run called Blue Cat Blues, depressing in a way. I have watched the episode now that i'm older. Jesus christ, that was depressing. What a way to end the good series... |
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Shiratori99 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Feeling pity for Tom is different from feeling anger/irritation towards Jerry. I also pitied Tom and never found Tom & Jerry very amusing because of the one-sided violence, but it's mostly because Tom is pretty incompetent so I feel for him, but don't get angry at Jerry for always winning their competitions. Random one-sided tsundere abuse makes me not feel pity because the OP usually doesn't do anything to prevent it, it just makes me angry at the unwarranted aggressor and how it is naturally accepted. As far as I'm concerned that's a huge difference in the interactions of Tom/Jerry and Tsundere/Wimp. The thing is, if you take the violence seriously, shouldn't you be equally disgusted by the sadism shown in shows like Tom & Jerry? And if you don't take it seriously and see it just as what it is - slapstick comedy - you shouldn't find an issue with violent tsunderes either. Well, I did say that I wasn't very fond of Tom & Jerry. I don't like the concept of the show, but it IS the concept of the whole show and you either like it or avoid it. Tsundere abuse finds its into all kinds of stories to different degrees and it's not like any synopsis will say 'this is about a main character getting randomly abused (pshysically and verbally) by pseudo-cute girls and that's about it'. I think complaining about the concept of a few series that are easily avoidable (like tom & jerry) is less reasonable than complaining about a common trope that is rarely the whole focus of a show, but very often present to an annoying degree in stories that one would otherwise find enjoyable. If tsundere was an isoloted genre not many people would have an issue with it, certainly not me. The omnipresence is what makes it troublesome. There are so many cases of irrelevant tsunderes that never get any focus or development but still a lot of 'slapstick' or 'fanservice' airtime and that kind of 'making it seem normal' is the annoying part. The occasional romance centered around a tsundere (eg. Toradora) or a tsundere pair (eg. Ranma 1/2) is not the issue (for me at least). |
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| Who knows anymore I really don't see the big deal, it's meant to exaggerate the girl's embarrassment and overflow of uncontrollable emotions. A harmless gimmick really, characters usually aren't getting hurt and play along with it. It's much different from real anime abuse, such as Diabolik Lovers. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: This. The fact that I am likely to encounter this trope in a show in which it serves no purpose other than to pad air time and get more viewers at the expense of the real focus of the show (plot, characters, action, actually funny and original comedy, etc.) means I might not be able avoid it even in shows I otherwise like. The fact that it may very well be considered a norm in anime is troubling to me.Shiratori99 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Feeling pity for Tom is different from feeling anger/irritation towards Jerry. I also pitied Tom and never found Tom & Jerry very amusing because of the one-sided violence, but it's mostly because Tom is pretty incompetent so I feel for him, but don't get angry at Jerry for always winning their competitions. Random one-sided tsundere abuse makes me not feel pity because the OP usually doesn't do anything to prevent it, it just makes me angry at the unwarranted aggressor and how it is naturally accepted. As far as I'm concerned that's a huge difference in the interactions of Tom/Jerry and Tsundere/Wimp. The thing is, if you take the violence seriously, shouldn't you be equally disgusted by the sadism shown in shows like Tom & Jerry? And if you don't take it seriously and see it just as what it is - slapstick comedy - you shouldn't find an issue with violent tsunderes either. Well, I did say that I wasn't very fond of Tom & Jerry. I don't like the concept of the show, but it IS the concept of the whole show and you either like it or avoid it. Tsundere abuse finds its into all kinds of stories to different degrees and it's not like any synopsis will say 'this is about a main character getting randomly abused (pshysically and verbally) by pseudo-cute girls and that's about it'. I think complaining about the concept of a few series that are easily avoidable (like tom & jerry) is less reasonable than complaining about a common trope that is rarely the whole focus of a show, but very often present to an annoying degree in stories that one would otherwise find enjoyable. If tsundere was an isoloted genre not many people would have an issue with it, certainly not me. The omnipresence is what makes it troublesome. There are so many cases of irrelevant tsunderes that never get any focus or development but still a lot of 'slapstick' or 'fanservice' airtime and that kind of 'making it seem normal' is the annoying part. The occasional romance centered around a tsundere (eg. Toradora) or a tsundere pair (eg. Ranma 1/2) is not the issue (for me at least). |
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| well because males are much stronger and (average) females are weak so they cant really hit hard enough for male to give a shit. unless that male is shinji ikari or similar pussy geek who will cry if girl hits him... |
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| I just think it's Japans weird take on slapstick humor. |
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dblbch said: At first I thought you were talking about some shitty creepypasta but then I remembered I watched that episode too. Fuck, that was really dark.Both Tom & Jerry committed suicide in the last episode of the original run called Blue Cat Blues, depressing in a way. |
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