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Feb 8, 2014 11:58 AM

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They'd still be guarding them, it's their duty, you're forgetting these are all soldiers, not just some people protecting her because they love her. Antyhing happens to her, everyone's affected. So regardless of who the Jinchuriki is, they have no choice but do the same.
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They'd still be guarding them, it's their duty, you're forgetting these are all soldiers, not just some people protecting her because they love her. Antyhing happens to her, everyone's affected. So regardless of who the Jinchuriki is, they have no choice but do the same.
You forget about what happen to Utakata. He is hunted down by his own village and hardly anyone care to tell him about Akatsuki threat.
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That's a different village, and a different Bijuu and a different matter.

A city like Konoha would not risk letting Kyuubi out for people to control or for it to be set free, they did not forget him the last time.

They have a good system and can contain it, so that's what they do, if you really think they would just ignore the Jinchuuriki while he's still in the city, you'd be wrong.

In any case, they did not mainly protect Kushina 'out of love', but out of necessity, not that they don't love her or anything.

Some other villages might choose exile, the short-term option which is dumb because... you know people are after it.
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But the most dangerous bodyguard is still Minato and Hiruzen because they love her.

Another case is Bee where they also warry of how overprotective Raikage is.
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NAruto is much more dangerous as a host simply because he CANT control it once he loses control.
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Steins;Gate
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Glass Fleet.

I hate it how the bad guy somehow becomes good and all the people whom he has been oppressing/fighting just suddenly accept and follow him.

I also hate it how when the protagonists are in the prison scenario all the filthy lifers try to rape one of the characters, and then later after the jailbreak they are all buddy buddy.

Actually I pretty much hate Glass Fleet entirely.
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if a person dies with regrets they become a shikabane >_> so why are there not thousands of shikiabane all over the world from wars, disasters, etc.
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Vexper said:
Steins;Gate
Yeah that the only BS moment due to their personalities./sarc
They should have never started this d mail shit.What happened in ep12 would still happen but Okabe wouldnt have to go trough all of that.

Thats why the prologue of the VN starts with Okabe's monologue about the butterfly effect and how stupid he was.
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In Mirai Nikki when Yuno wanted Yuki to kill her. If her whole plan was to become the god over and over again to be with Yuki, why did she even ask him to kill her? I get as a cover up for a while but there were a few times she was pretty serious about it.
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Vexper said:
Steins;Gate


I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.
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Fexell said:
Vexper said:
Steins;Gate


I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.
This isnt a plothole.

If we see things this way then Naruto is impossible,Bleach Is impossible,OP,DBZ,NGE, JoJo and most other anime out there are plotholes as well.
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Fexell said:
Vexper said:
Steins;Gate


I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.
People like you completely miss the point of anime. "WHY IS LUFFY MADE OF RUBBER? THAT IS A PLOTHOLE I AM SO SMART FOR SPOTTING THAT ONE!". And their time travel was NOT a plothole, they could only travel 24 hours to the past anyway (d-mails could go years back, but my point stands, there is no plothole at this)

And yes, he got it out of luck, so what? How can that be a plothole? Seems like coincidence to me
Feb 10, 2014 9:24 AM

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Fexell said:

I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.

Time travel is possible if there is a particle faster than the speed of light exists. So yeah, it's not possible (yet) in real life. But doesn't mean it's a plothole. Something is considered as plothole if it doesn't match with the logic in the story itself, not with our real life logic. And this is sci-fi.
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Fexell said:
Vexper said:
Steins;Gate


I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.


Fun fact: Newton discovered gravity out of pure luck (and curiosity). You don't necessarily need "skill" to invent/discover anything.
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Fexell said:

I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.

Time travel is possible if there is a particle faster than the speed of light exists. So yeah, it's not possible (yet) in real life. But doesn't mean it's a plothole. Something is considered as plothole if it doesn't match with the logic in the story itself, not with our real life logic. And this is sci-fi.
Well technically, everybody's a time traveler. We're all traveling forward in time c:
Every picture we take, is one of the past.
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lupadim said:
Fexell said:
Vexper said:
Steins;Gate


I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.
People like you completely miss the point of anime. "WHY IS LUFFY MADE OF RUBBER? THAT IS A PLOTHOLE I AM SO SMART FOR SPOTTING THAT ONE!". And their time travel was NOT a plothole, they could only travel 24 hours to the past anyway (d-mails could go years back, but my point stands, there is no plothole at this)

And yes, he got it out of luck, so what? How can that be a plothole? Seems like coincidence to me


"People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible.
The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world.
"24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird).
Feb 10, 2014 11:13 AM

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Fexell said:
"People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible.
The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world.
"24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird).
It's still an anime world, a sci fi world. And like it's been explained to you already, a plot hole is going against the show's logic, not ours. Their world can look just like ours but everyone has purple skin, that would not be a plot hole. It having time travel is not a plot hole but going against the rules about time travel that they established in the story would be a plot hole.
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wanderingplayboy said:
Fexell said:

I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.

Time travel is possible if there is a particle faster than the speed of light exists. So yeah, it's not possible (yet) in real life. But doesn't mean it's a plothole. Something is considered as plothole if it doesn't match with the logic in the story itself, not with our real life logic. And this is sci-fi.


I will answer you by your profile. I don't wanna go off-topic.
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Fexell said:
lupadim said:
Fexell said:
Vexper said:
Steins;Gate


I think I have said this before in this thread, but the whole concept of time travel is a HUGE plothole.
I just cannot stop thinking about major questions when I see time travel movies: "what would happen if they traveled to the end of time?", "before universe existed?", etc. Time travel will always be impossible, and the way they time traveled in "Steins;Gate" was TOO big of a plothole. He didn't come up with the time travel machine out of skill, but luck. There is just no way.
People like you completely miss the point of anime. "WHY IS LUFFY MADE OF RUBBER? THAT IS A PLOTHOLE I AM SO SMART FOR SPOTTING THAT ONE!". And their time travel was NOT a plothole, they could only travel 24 hours to the past anyway (d-mails could go years back, but my point stands, there is no plothole at this)

And yes, he got it out of luck, so what? How can that be a plothole? Seems like coincidence to me


"People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible.
The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world.
"24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird).

S;G unfolds in a world where physical time travel is possible.So not our world.

Again you ignore the setting of the show.
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@Fexell

What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way.
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IntroverTurtle said:
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"People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible.
The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world.
"24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird).
It's still an anime world, a sci fi world. And like it's been explained to you already, a plot hole is going against the show's logic, not ours. Their world can look just like ours but everyone has purple skin, that would not be a plot hole. It having time travel is not a plot hole but going against the rules about time travel that they established in the story would be a plot hole.


I agree. But the way they time travel is kind of a plothole. If it had more facts, etc. I would have bought it. But as I also said; I still enjoyed the anime. I don't really mind plotholes, to be honest. Because as you say: anime itself is fantasy.

Edit; I won't go off-topic here anymore. I'll answer quotes as comment on your profiles.
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Fexell said:
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Fexell said:
"People like you". I'm not saying that the anime is bad. I'm just saying that time travel itself is impossible.
The difference between One Piece and Steins;Gate, is that Steins;Gate unfolds in a "realistic" world. The setting is "our world" and not a fantasy world.
"24 hours to the past"? Then what about that bigger machine they had? (The one looking like a "space ship" or something weird).
It's still an anime world, a sci fi world. And like it's been explained to you already, a plot hole is going against the show's logic, not ours. Their world can look just like ours but everyone has purple skin, that would not be a plot hole. It having time travel is not a plot hole but going against the rules about time travel that they established in the story would be a plot hole.


I agree. But the way they time travel is kind of a plothole. If it had more facts, etc. I would have bought it. But as I also said; I still enjoyed the anime. I don't really mind plotholes, to be honest. Because as you say: anime itself is fantasy.

No it isnt.
Since there is no certain method(facts) which makes time travel possible, they can do whatever they want, even use the supernatural and it still wont be a plothole.
Feb 10, 2014 11:25 AM

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@Fexell

What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way.


Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap.


Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing.

That said, you're right, S;G established itself in a TT setting, so it's no plothole by any means.
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@Fexell

What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way.


Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap.


Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing.

They were "explained".Now if you want to accept them or not it is your problem not of the series.
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What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way.


Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap.


Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing.


The important thing is that they stay consistent and that they establish some rules. Just saying 'Time travel is possible in this world' is quite sufficient for the initial basis. Explaining it further makes it better, and establishing rules for such things is also important, but 'just making stuff up' is absolutely fine initially.. because it IS fiction.
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miereneronaile said:
judals said:
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@Fexell

What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way.


Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap.


Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing.


The important thing is that they stay consistent and that they establish some rules. Just saying 'Time travel is possible in this world' is quite sufficient for the initial basis. Explaining it further makes it better, and establishing rules for such things is also important, but 'just making stuff up' is absolutely fine initially.. because it IS fiction.

Exactly,
initially, it's called set up, and is completely fine, they can also add elements later on as long as they incorporate it well into the story and it doesn't break the anime's rules.
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judals said:
miereneronaile said:
judals said:
miereneronaile said:
@Fexell

What ssjokg and IntroverTurtle said is completely correct. Its not set in a 'realistic' world. Its set in its own world, where time travel IS possible. This is not a plot hole in ANY way.


Even worlds established to be bizarre where a lot of crazy stuff can happen can't just come up with stuff and use "it's fiction" as an excuse. It's cheap.


Whatever happens, needs to be explained or make sense and not just be there for the sake of being there. May not be a plot hole by definition, but it isn't good writing.


The important thing is that they stay consistent and that they establish some rules. Just saying 'Time travel is possible in this world' is quite sufficient for the initial basis. Explaining it further makes it better, and establishing rules for such things is also important, but 'just making stuff up' is absolutely fine initially.. because it IS fiction.

Exactly,
initially, it's called set up, and is completely fine, they can also add elements later on as long as they incorporate it well into the story and it doesn't break the anime's rules.


Yep, and Steins;Gate did a pretty reasonable job of this. Calling the fact you can time travel in Steins;Gate a plot hole is totally ridiculous, which was what initially started this lol.
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The thing when that part happened in that one anime with the people in it was really stupid.
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Pokemon, WHY DON'T YOU AGE?
BEcause it is all dream a comatose Ash is having.
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It's not a plot hole, but this would unravel the entire world of Kuroko no Basket -

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fist of the north star

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in naruto when they extracted the bijuu out of gaara it took many chapters before they have finished then in naruto and kushina cases it was extracted instantly.

Kushina's seal was already weakened and Tobi only extracted Kyuubi and released it outside while Garra's tailed beast was extracted and transferred to the Gedo Mazo at the same time.
naruto's kyubii was instantly taken and eaten by the gedo mazo. Kushina having her weak seal seems irrelevant because I remember orochimaru destroying naruto's seal in a matter of a single jutsu
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in naruto when they extracted the bijuu out of gaara it took many chapters before they have finished then in naruto and kushina cases it was extracted instantly.

Kushina's seal was already weakened and Tobi only extracted Kyuubi and released it outside while Garra's tailed beast was extracted and transferred to the Gedo Mazo at the same time.
naruto's kyubii was instantly taken and eaten by the gedo mazo. Kushina having her weak seal seems irrelevant because I remember orochimaru destroying naruto's seal in a matter of a single jutsu


Oro never destroyed Naruto's seal. Oro just put a limiter over it making it difficult for Naruto to control his chakra.
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wow....never even came to mind but looking back that really is bullshit


well the show never did know where it was going anyway
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there was one in jojo's bizarre adventure during kujo vs dio.....that was probably the lamest asspull i've ever seen
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HxH manga spoilers



What a disappointing arc..
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HxH manga spoilers



What a disappointing arc..


-true enough,but nowhere near a dissapointing arc
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Guilty Crown. All of it. Literally all of it.
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saint seiya-i'm about 60 episodes in and the series has enough plot holes bs moments and plot conveniences to fill naruto&bleach and still have a lot left over
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vongola-undecimo said:
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HxH manga spoilers



What a disappointing arc..


-true enough,but nowhere near a dissapointing arc

That arc wasn't only disappointing because of those two things. I have many many other problems with it.
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HxH manga spoilers



What a disappointing arc..


-true enough,but nowhere near a dissapointing arc

That arc wasn't only disappointing because of those two things. I have many many other problems with it.


well if that's how you feel.....i personally enjoyed it over alot of other stuff
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What a disappointing arc..


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There are plenty of "bullshit" moments in Toriko, partly because of how over-the-top it is. Still, all these bullshit moments are made pretty damn hilarious by the fact that Toriko takes itself very seriously. For example, there's this one moment while inside the Reagal Mammoth during which Rin recalls how she got the scar under her right eye.....



Also, KnB 2:

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HxH manga spoilers



What a disappointing arc..


HxH manga spoilers below

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Also, KnB 2:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=729541#msg27793507
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