Attack on Titan
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Pipoko said: affirming_flame said: Jotaro_Kujo said: Cross-dressing Armin is the highlight. I liked the chapter, but it basically added new mysteries on top of a shitload of existing ones without answering anything. God I wished this manga was biweekly. On another note, it seems that this chapter makes the anime inconsistent as hell in terms of characterization (among other things), since here it's shown that Erwin and Nile were fellow trainees who are on respectful terms with one another, while the anime portrayed a more hostile relationship. I wonder how the anime team is going to reconcile that in the future.. That's quite a good point about the inconsistency between Erwin and Nile's relationship in the anime and their relationship in the manga. I didn't think about that. In the anime the relationship was portrayed as extremely hostile. Nile pointed a gun at Erwin's face and accused him of treason. I do wonder how that will be reconciled. Nile in this chapter was much less hostile to Erwin. It wasn't hostile in the sense that they hated each other - it was the same way as the manga. Nile was just doing his job and Erwin was getting in the way. Yeah true. Nile may not have been being hostile as much as he was stubborn. |
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| Trap Armin is now canon. LOL. This will launch a thousand doujinshi's. The translation I read was awful. Hope I can find another one soon. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Marzan said: Trap Armin. This will launch a thousand doujinshi's. I can smell it already from a thousand miles away. The doujinshis, that is. |
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| I died at trap Armin. |
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| good chapter as usual. I have always been fond of the theory that Eren has been adopted by his "father" and had in fact already done the titan transformation before the beginning of the story. Did he mean " I killed my father" or "I disappointed him"? |
short_reviewJan 7, 2014 8:13 AM
| This chapter defintiely added fuel to the theory that Eren killed Grisha |
| Oookay, according Onemanga TL: First transformation expires in 1 hour and 30 minutes. Physical attributes: - 15 m class - his initial form; his last maximal/optimal form (?) - skinned, no changes detected; Abilities: - no hardening ability; - good comprehension; - follows instructions; - strong; - constructive, with bizarre attention to detail; - jaw structure obstructs producing speech; - as an alternative, can write on the ground; [1 hour after his TS, and upon being asked to write, he suddenly remembered his father]; - can walk out of his form by his own will. Overall: Conscious and in control of titan form. Second transformation (2 hours after the First): - visibly in the 13 m class; no other changes; Abilities: - no hardening ability; - no comprehension; - incapable of following commands; - rage, destructiveness; - visibly ran out of energy; - couldn't come out of the titan alone, on his own; - couldn't come out of the titan w/o assistance. Overall: Loses consciousness and control. Third transformation: - Under the 10 m class, incomplete transformation - bones sticking, flesh missing; - couldn't stand on his own; - fusion with the titan is visible and barely reversible; - couldn't revert back to human, his human form is affected by the fusion; - need to be pulled out of the titan with great effort. Overall: meh * only the first transformation elapsed to 1 h 30 min; the other apparently were short in duration; the third could hardly be counted as success; three transformations in ~ 3 hours or so. * at least 30 min of rest are needed between transformations. After the experiment: - no hardening ability; - the coordinator ability didn't kick in, yet might be connected to the memories of Grisha; - able to regenerate his human form; - slept/recovered for a whole day; - doesn't remember anything after the scribbles about his father; (anterograde amnesia); - remembers everything before the transformation (no retrograde amnesia). If the translation is done right, the scribbles "My father was ...", "By me ...", grieves for 30 min on the ground and crawls out of the titan's body by himself, could mean he ate or killed Grisha back in Wall Rose. (Had to write this down. As much as I am not fan of this theory, this is closest to what I thought when I read it). Levi: Uncertain whether to take his words for purely metaphoric - a fair reason to respect heichou's wish to be free, but how the air behind the walls is rotten and in 100 years it will dissolve the walls themselves is a very curious and passionate statement even for Levi. Christa peeking upon the evaporating titan Eren left behind. The Chick in the mirror: If Grisha was eaten by Eren, the memory could be his, not Eren's specifically. Grisha was a doctor. If the chick resembles Christa as Eren assumed, she might be a Reiss, and perhaps a former patient of Grisha's. It connects many dots here, although I don't insist I am right or anything like that (just pointing this out). All idiots believe in Erwin and for a good reason - apparently, he succeeded to inform them on the assault and gave instructions for the fake kidnap plan. Well, I don't know where Erwin went - Nile mentioned something about a court house, but this could be the Central MP or HQ in Sina, or that Imperial Gathering/Parliament or whatever the House of Lords resides in. The Cult uses different types of buildings, don't believe it's the Reiss mansion either. He will be making a scene going in there, won't he :P Hopefully, won't die in the process. |
zellamiJan 7, 2014 9:30 AM
| Good chapter. Mod Edit: Merged thread into the existing one. Don't delete this post because it's the placeholder for the poll. |
LunaJan 7, 2014 10:29 AM
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| i don't know if it has already been suggested... but what if the girl in Eren's memory is the previous coordinate. Grisha did say "their memories." Maybe Eren's going to start to be visited by the ghosts of coordinate past:) |
millie10468 said: i don't know if it has already been suggested... but what if the girl in Eren's memory is the previous coordinate. Grisha did say "their memories." Maybe Eren's going to start to be visited by the ghosts of coordinate past:) I think you're onto something |
| When Eren was kidnapped, I was like, "Again!?" But then it turned out to be Jean and Sasha serving as doubles. I wonder what Erwin's orders were.. Another month of waiting D: |
millie10468 said: i don't know if it has already been suggested... but what if the girl in Eren's memory is the previous coordinate. Grisha did say "their memories." Maybe Eren's going to start to be visited by the ghosts of coordinate past:) I like the idea! Actually, the coordinating ability didn't require transformation to titan. |
| Good chapter. I wonder who that girl was that Eren had a flash back of. Is that really Armin posing as fake Krista lol. |
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zellami said: If the translation is right, the scribbles "My father was ...", "By me ...", grieves for 30 min on the ground and crawls out of the titan's body by himself, could mean he ate or killed Grisha back in Wall Rose. (Had to write this down. As much as I am not fan of this theory, this is closest to what I thought when I read it). The translation posted by keragamming is different. Erer wrote " dad...he did.... to me". Probably he was referring to Grisha injecting him the titan-shifting sierum or the coordinate power. Until we get the official transaltion every theory is possible. About the mysterious girl-at-the-mirror. She's not exactely in front of the mirror and she looks at someone (ore something) standing on her back-right in the same room. She looks frightened. Whom is she looking at? Why does she look so scared? Just an idea. She's a member of Reiss family. A killer has just entered in her room to kill her. Dr. Jaeger arrives too late to save her life but in time to take a sample of her blood containing the "serum" with her titan shifting power and memories of her last minutes of life. |
| Thank God that's just a fake Eren. Seems like Levi is ready to move in as well despite his injury huh? Dat Trap Armin Decent chapter. It sets up the next chapter well so looking forward to more. |
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Darklight0303 said: This chapter defintiely added fuel to the theory that Eren killed Grisha Exactly what I was thinking. It's getting very obvious at this point. "My dad was ... by me" Fill in the blanks with either "killed" or "eaten". |
thatonegaydude said: http://oi42.tinypic.com/nh13xh.jpg (p. 33) Am I just being paranoid or does it look like Levi's left leg only goes up to his knee? Or is it there at all? Maybe it's just placed behind the right leg and I'm really just going crazy..but could this be foreshadowing? ..and knowing Isayama he wouldn't just mention the injury at the end of the chapter if it had no purpose. I've noticed this, too... Actually, to me, it looks like more like he has no leg -.- Well, lets hope we're just being paranoid... but since this is SnK... |
| even more new questions |
AnnieZoe said: affirming_flame said: Jotaro_Kujo said: Cross-dressing Armin is the highlight. I liked the chapter, but it basically added new mysteries on top of a shitload of existing ones without answering anything. God I wished this manga was biweekly. On another note, it seems that this chapter makes the anime inconsistent as hell in terms of characterization (among other things), since here it's shown that Erwin and Nile were fellow trainees who are on respectful terms with one another, while the anime portrayed a more hostile relationship. I wonder how the anime team is going to reconcile that in the future.. That's quite a good point about the inconsistency between Erwin and Nile's relationship in the anime and their relationship in the manga. I didn't think about that. In the anime the relationship was portrayed as extremely hostile. Nile pointed a gun at Erwin's face and accused him of treason. I do wonder how that will be reconciled. Nile in this chapter was much less hostile to Erwin. Nothing needs to be reconciled honestly. Nile pointed a gun at erwin because he thought erwin betrayed humanity by letting eren and annie fight inside the walls near all those people. Nile had every right to be hostile towards erwin at that moment, he was simply doing his job as a mp....it's business. Yeah that's fair and I can see that. It's nothing serious, but I just had the sense that the filler overplayed the hostility. In the manga Nile questions Erwin's actions, but it isn't as overt and you get the sense that Nile knows all too well the lengths that Erwin will go to. That seems more in line with what this chapter portrays. colorinstinct said: Darklight0303 said: This chapter defintiely added fuel to the theory that Eren killed Grisha Exactly what I was thinking. It's getting very obvious at this point. "My dad was ... by me" Fill in the blanks with either "killed" or "eaten". It's practically confirmed now really. It seemed like everyone came to that conclusion when they read that. |
| Wow is all I can say. |
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| The moment i saw historia talking to Eren im like "i know this guy just didn't"....next panel Armin is getting felt up on rofl XD. Trap ARmin Canon. Tons of funny moments in this chapter, from mikasa wanting to beat the living daylights out of hanji, to Erwin's Titan fetish. Not to mention the good amount of revelations that have occured in this chapter. It's pretty much safe to assume that Eren ate his father at this point and this is the reason he was grieving. Not to mention that kind is probably the enemy from the get go like i assumed. |
| The mangaka finally pleased his fanbase by making trap Armin canon. Didn't expect that. |
| I just want a god damn answer to shit, not more questions. Good chapter nonetheless. |
| what good chapter . |
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ryoko74 said: zellami said: If the translation is right, the scribbles "My father was ...", "By me ...", grieves for 30 min on the ground and crawls out of the titan's body by himself, could mean he ate or killed Grisha back in Wall Rose. (Had to write this down. As much as I am not fan of this theory, this is closest to what I thought when I read it). The translation posted by keragamming is different. Erer wrote " dad...he did.... to me". Probably he was referring to Grisha injecting him the titan-shifting sierum or the coordinate power. Until we get the official transaltion every theory is possible. About the mysterious girl-at-the-mirror. She's not exactely in front of the mirror and she looks at someone (ore something) standing on her back-right in the same room. She looks frightened. Whom is she looking at? Why does she look so scared? Just an idea. She's a member of Reiss family. A killer has just entered in her room to kill her. Dr. Jaeger arrives too late to save her life but in time to take a sample of her blood containing the "serum" with her titan shifting power and memories of her last minutes of life. You know, you are right about the translations - I am not done with the chapter until CR and MS release theirs. Truly everything needs to be verified b/w TL versions, which I'll add, leaving the older ones for comparison. Agree about the chick, too. The moment with the flashback should mark something important that happened to her and/or someone else in the room and has to be relevant to Eren's concern about Grisha. Because ..., I don't know, Eren is right to ask himself why his father surfaced during his transformation as titan. The goal of the experiments was Eren to perform the hardening ability. For comparison, when Eren lost his mind the second time he transformed in Trost, he pictured his whole family, but he didn't grieve, did he, hm. His family was around him, he was back at his home, and Armin barely managed to hit the nail with the "world outside", almost out of desperation. Perhaps in the next chapter Christa and Eren will hold some sort of important conversation and the quest to the basement is going to happen after some other events take place (?). I myself am not a fan of that eating theory, so I'll irresponsibly offer an alternative guess. What if Grisha was killed or kidnapped in front of Eren, while trying to protect him from killers, same or similar to those who killed Christa's mom in the previous chapter. |
zellamiJan 7, 2014 6:10 PM
| Had to pay a visit to the forums after reading the latest chapter. Poor Armin, getting groped by some old dude. If it weren't for the fact that it was Armin being molested instead of Christa, I'm sure we'd all be a lot more disturbed. But the fact that the dude talks about his 'beauty' really raises questions about Armin's masculinity lol. Jean taking on the role of Eren was entertaining as well. Beyond that, the chapter was mostly a build up. Interesting to see how the residents of Trost are holding up (not too well I see). I'll be back for the next chapter. |
| Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier Trope ≠ Cliché (Face it, nothing is completely original. Can't make something from nothing so to say.). Fanservice ≠ Ecchi (Though ecchi can please the fans!) Popular ≠ Sucks... maybe Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics. Anime/Manga = Japanese Cartoons! Deal with it. Support Movember. Raise awareness of men's health issues. Put a mustache on your avatars or something... |
| That trap Armin though |
| I dont know if I buy this idea of Eren transforming and eating/killing Grisha. If Eren had transformed in that moment, once Titan Eren presumably collapsed, there wouldve been smoke/steam palls INSIDE the walls and there wouldve been a mass panic and mention of Titans within Wall Rose or Trost or wherever the refugees lived. I mean sure, its easy enough to put "killed" or "eaten" there but doesnt that sentence sound a bit off? Wouldnt "I..." (killed/ate) "... my father" have come off better? The bit about "grieving" also leads one to think of death but couldnt it be just that Eren misses his father and/or mother? Who knows, maybe Titan Eren, with Eren inside and unconscious, is just a big ball of emotions? |
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| Eren can't get hard oh god |
| I dont really think he killed/ate his father too.Maybe he wants you to think that because of the oncoming plot twist onslaught. Dunno,the way it was presented is too fishy isnt it,just throw a sentence out there that confirms one of the most common theories?Too fishy,all for the sake of entertainment. |
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| i fucking knew it that armin would do an awesome trap |
GotAnyOranges said: IchigoHollowfi said: So Eren can't harden. Damn. Those (Eren) abs...I can't.... ♥____♥ Jean cosplayed as Eren again. Lmao. XD Mikasa worried about Levi's leg. I can hear the LevixMikasa fangirls screaming in the background. Really, guys? =_= Another month of waiting. >_< Something about Eren's suddenly ripped body is bugging me. And I can't believe no one has pointed out yet. Remember, Eren was beginning to fuse with his titan and literally "turning" into it. You can easily tell by the mutation of his face, his teeth and no lips etc. His titan form is awfully muscular and Eren was transforming into it without the dramatic increase in height. After Eren was cut off and put into the cart. All that muscle disappears as he heals. Comparison below: Lmfao i'm making such a big deal. But i just cringe when all those fangirls all over tumblr (no offense) screams about it not knowing Eren is as flat as an airport runway. Poor Eren, even Mikasa has atleast 5kgs of extra muscle than him. It's all about the angle and the circumstances of his body. His face looks weird because half of it was attached to his titan body, fusing with it. In the other picture, the angle makes it hard to see but it is obvious that Eren carries a significant amount of muscle. Yes Mikasa did weigh more than him when they had just finished training, but a lot of time has passed since then and so has Eren's appearance (he is being drawn as more grown up recently, wider shoulders and more muscles, this is particularly apparent when he uses his coordinate ability for the first time) When he exited the Ttan form his body was straining and his muscles were going through a process we bodybuilders call the "pump". The muscle you pointed out is the serratus, all it requires is low bodyfat, not "years of bodybuilding". Eren being ripped makes a lot of sense, by all standards he should be Lower bodyfat than Mikasa, who is pretty ripped herself. (Eren is a top trainee so obviously in great shape, that and males generally carry less bodyfat than females). Cliffs - Eren being built like that is not so far fetched, especially when people resemble their titan forms (Bertholdt - tall..... Eren - ripped?). He has been training for 3 years to be the best he can be, he's not exactly going to be a stick or fat is he? |
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